Do you actually care about TOP SPEED on a Motorcycle?

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  • @yammienoob
    @yammienoob  Місяць тому +7

    Get entered to win this Yamaha MT09 SP at yammienoob.co ! Support the show and become a member, you won't regret it

    • @gunmanbrave5024
      @gunmanbrave5024 Місяць тому

      12:49 review of the tarmac road bike? 👌

    • @gunmanbrave5024
      @gunmanbrave5024 Місяць тому

      bet that cycle review would be lovely too😂😂

  • @johnbratmon6385
    @johnbratmon6385 Місяць тому +200

    Nope, don't care about the top speed. I'll never be taking my bike on top speed runs anyway, so it's irrelevant. I care more about how quickly I can accelerate my way out of trouble, so as to avoid brain dead drivers who don't bother to look before changing lanes or similar such idiocy...

    • @MikeDyson3k
      @MikeDyson3k Місяць тому +20

      I've done 1-2 "top speed" runs in my bike. Chickened out before I topped out. It is indeed pointless. But having torque above 65mph is essential for safe escapes from distracted drivers.

    • @burnerjack01
      @burnerjack01 Місяць тому +7

      @@MikeDyson3kHave torque to blast out of an apex on a lonesome backroad corner ain’t so bad either! I live for the moment.😎

    • @brandoncostner7437
      @brandoncostner7437 Місяць тому +2

      Why bikes like the sv650 and XSR900 are top tier imo

    • @missmollymoff
      @missmollymoff Місяць тому

      Experience and awareness beats all.

    • @BenGooding-fp6oi
      @BenGooding-fp6oi Місяць тому +2

      Top speed is very important when you're racing a Corvette on the North Dallas Tollway. My ZX10 will do 184mph true speed.

  • @Blown4banger
    @Blown4banger Місяць тому +73

    I ride an MT-07, it tops out around 125-130, and I honestly have no desire to go faster than that on a bike. It hauls butt 0-100, and that's where street riding is most fun, A quick blip up to 100 getting on the freeway, then back to easily cruising at 75 mph. Plenty of power to pass cars on the highway without even needing to shift out of 6th gear.

    • @petej_2
      @petej_2 Місяць тому +1

      Yessir, I ride an FZ-07 (very similar bike) and agree with this 👍

    • @Cthooligan
      @Cthooligan Місяць тому +1

      My 2015 FZ topped out at 115. Nice to see they made it a little spicier since then

    • @jdreign7210
      @jdreign7210 Місяць тому +2

      Xsr700 same thing. Might get a tenere 700 for adv/touring and that’s maxed out at like 115

    • @Powermad-bu4em
      @Powermad-bu4em Місяць тому +3

      Just like my GSX8R. I've had it to 110 and im pretty satisfied with that personally.

    • @irrelevantwaffles
      @irrelevantwaffles Місяць тому +1

      Yea my mt07 really falls flat on its face right at 100 too. I've got it up to an indicated 110 and it's barely creeping up at that point, even in a full tuck. I'm a big ol fat chunky boy though. I figuree if I actually had the balls to tuck in and hold it wide open for longer I could probably get it up to at least 120. But I'd need a real long straight and I just don't care about the top speed that much.

  • @the_rush_to_nothing
    @the_rush_to_nothing Місяць тому +66

    125cc Riders: This is irrelevant to me

    • @jessecloete2388
      @jessecloete2388 Місяць тому +7

      I feel you bro, it becomes more of a liability when you cant even reach the posted freeway/highway speed limit, but to Yams point of him getting more of an adrenaline rush riding his bicycle at >40mph, it does feel somewhat exhilarating in the sense that they dont feel that planted at those speeds and the poor engines are screaming, giving you the illusion that you are hauling ass. More fun to ride a slow thing fast, than a fast thing slow

    • @dan13jb
      @dan13jb Місяць тому +2

      But also the difference between 60mph and 70mph top speed makes a massive difference on a 125cc!
      Suddenly it becomes a viable commuting bike and not just a stepping stone to a 'proper' bike.

    • @HepauDK
      @HepauDK Місяць тому +2

      I'd say it is quite the contrary. A 125cc wouldn't even be able to get a speeding ticket on the freeway here in Denmark (other than maybe the stretches where the limit is lowered below the normal 130kmh (~81 mph).

    • @the_rush_to_nothing
      @the_rush_to_nothing Місяць тому

      @@HepauDK so what you’re saying is they can get pulled over for riding under the speed limit? THERES NO WINNING WITH A 125CC!

    • @HepauDK
      @HepauDK Місяць тому +1

      @@the_rush_to_nothing I don't see how you could interpret it that way, but yes, in Denmark you can get pulled over at any speed. On the freeway there is a lower speed limit of 50 kmh (~31 mph) though. Routine stops happen all the time. Maybe the cop just wants to check if you have a valid license, or check if you have been drinking. If everything checks out, you are being wished a good day and can go on.
      I remember my first time being stopped, this happened at about 2am the night between Friday and Saturday. I was taking a detour through the city, and I passed a parked patrol car a bit too fast. They stopped me down a side street. I was asked to take my helmet off, present my driving license, and was asked if I had had anything to drink, all routine. As I had only had orange juice the entire evening, the cop had to admit that it couldn't have made me drunk. He then used his flashlight to check my tires, and when he realised he couldn't pin anything on me, he sent me on my way with a "Drive safe" (well, drive and ride is the same word in Danish when it comes to motor vehicles). :)

  • @JH-ox7hn
    @JH-ox7hn Місяць тому +41

    Living in Autobahn-country, top speed is important, if only to satisfy my curiousity.

    • @paulbarclay4114
      @paulbarclay4114 Місяць тому +5

      I live in cambodia, my honda ADV160 has a top speed of 120 kh/h. If you want to go faster than that, good luck. A cow or stray dog will run out in front of you sooner or later. The roads also cannot support any kind of gofasting.
      There are lots of people here with ninja 600s and stuff, I see that and think to myself-for what? They are terrible in hot weather, terrible in traffic, and not comfortable to ride.

  • @mrmatt7210
    @mrmatt7210 Місяць тому +26

    0-100 is far more important to me than a top speed which can approach 200mph.
    However, i do want a bike which has a top speed greater than that of a road raging pickup truck owner .

    • @Scooter_built
      @Scooter_built Місяць тому

      Can them new rams and f series trucks go 140? Pretty sure they can now over long enough stretch 🤣

    • @mrmatt7210
      @mrmatt7210 Місяць тому

      @Scooter_built Your reply peaked my curiosity regarding the capabilities of a modern truck.
      At the moment, I suspect the TRX is the top performance truck offered by Dodge. The net shares the 2024 Ram 1500 TRX has a top speed of 118 miles per hour (mph). It can also go from 0 to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds and complete a quarter mile in 12.9 seconds at 108 mph. Not bad for a 700hp truck.

    • @bplesnt1727
      @bplesnt1727 Місяць тому +1

      @@mrmatt7210 the top speed is electronically limited- with a tune, they can go much faster. (Source- my buddy tuned his truck and goes much faster lmao)

  • @peterthebull8578
    @peterthebull8578 Місяць тому +35

    I have a ZX10r + ZX14r and my daily commuter is still just a Ninja 250.
    Experienced riders understand that it's not all about speed.

    • @switcherlp780
      @switcherlp780 Місяць тому +4

      A bike for track/track-like riding, a bike for long distances, and a bike for every day use. Very nice.

    • @Z2Z9
      @Z2Z9 Місяць тому +1

      Why a 250 tho? Why not a more powerful naked?

    • @peterthebull8578
      @peterthebull8578 Місяць тому +2

      @@Z2Z9 Absolutely, there are plenty of great options for street bikes. My 250 just happens to be because it is my first bike that I bought back in 2009. It's dirt cheap on insurance, gets great gas mileage, easy to maintain/wrench on, lightweight and I'm not worried about anyone stealing it. I actually park it outside on my driveway overnight every day.

    • @switcherlp780
      @switcherlp780 Місяць тому

      @@Z2Z9 Why do you need more? When riding in a city, there is literally no need if you are constantly driving under 50mph. Do you live in a city? The big bikes are so B O R I N G in the concrete jungle. The 250 is an absolute goon bike at that point.

  • @RoadRage810
    @RoadRage810 Місяць тому +28

    Depends on the bike. A Grom top speed will get you unalived on some roads. The MT-07 is beloved by all but the only complaint is it could use more top end. A 600 has good top speed for most but nothing down low. Everything is a trade-off, pick what is important to you and learn to live with the rest. With an adventure bike, the top speed is the lowest priority on the list. My MT-07 will get 0-100 in an acceptable amount of time. Getting it from 100-130 is 5 to 7 business days and topping it out is measured on a calendar. 😂

    • @hollow8194
      @hollow8194 Місяць тому +2

      I was thinking of getting an MT-07 as people say it's very fun and nimble. Do you recon it's good for beginners or is it a little too powerful?

    • @matthewlee8917
      @matthewlee8917 Місяць тому +2

      @@hollow8194it can be too much. If you are someone who’s looking to go fast as a beginner, don’t buy one. Get something smaller. If you are mature and aren’t looking to clown around it’s a perfectly fine beginner bike. But make no mistake the MT07 has more than enough grunt to get you in trouble quickly.

    • @hondaricer8528
      @hondaricer8528 Місяць тому +1

      @@hollow8194 I got my license on an MT07 and currently ride an R7 and it's completely fine. Like the other commenter said you can get into trouble fast and it accelerates like a 600cc bike up to 80-90mph then drops off. As long as you are responsible and don't hammer the throttle mid turn or something it's a decent bike to start on, I've ridden mine for 2 years now and starting to feel like I want to upgrade to an Mt09 / R9 (whenever it releases) and if I started on a 300cc bike I would be bored to death by now.

    • @popdatclutch3010
      @popdatclutch3010 Місяць тому +1

      Only thing the mt07 needs is better suspension

    • @Cthooligan
      @Cthooligan Місяць тому

      ​@hollow8194 I started on a 2015 fz 07. Wonderful starting bike if you have some self-control and know your limits

  • @CrunchDramaNetwork
    @CrunchDramaNetwork Місяць тому +16

    I'm very new and was happy to reach the 50mph mark. My roads suck really bad here in Louisiana and the drivers really suck too so I was pleased to reach 50 on my 24' Ninja 500

    • @logangodofcandy
      @logangodofcandy Місяць тому

      Should have got a bike with better suspension, it sounds like.

    • @S1Z3M
      @S1Z3M Місяць тому +3

      @@logangodofcandy It's a 24 Ninja 500, don't hate what you haven't ridden

    • @teej1987
      @teej1987 Місяць тому

      ​@@S1Z3MI have a 2020 ninja 400, exact same as the 500 in terms of suspension. And the suspension sucks lol

  • @christopher7310
    @christopher7310 Місяць тому +16

    Short answer... No. Top speed is irrelevant. Even those who"track day" rarely max out on the track. I prefer comfortable rideability. 200 horsepower and a top speed of 210 mph doesn't mean anything to me when I will go to jail, provided I don't die in an accident, for merely doubling the speed limit. Which were I live, would only be 130 miles an hour. Still nowhere near the top end of some of these bikes.
    A nice bike with enough torque to handle low RPM and commuting just fine and just enough oomph to play with a little bit without feeling like I need a tailwind to move.
    As long as the top end is at least 20 miles per hour above the highway speed limit, so that my bike isn't screaming and begging for mercy just at 65 or 70... I'm good

    • @samuelswihart4285
      @samuelswihart4285 Місяць тому

      Exactly. Like, you can't expect a Papio or a Grom to do highway speeds, but it is important to have a bike that can exceed the speed limit so you can get to and remain at speed reliably.

    • @langhamp8912
      @langhamp8912 Місяць тому +3

      130 mph is shockingly fast when you have to brake. On my first trackday, the thing that surprised and disturbed me the most was how long it took to brake from 135 mph. You basically stand the bike on its nose and wait a loooong time. Before that, I used to wonder how riders could just ride off the track on the brakes. However, you miss your brakes by half a second at 135, and you end up so far into the turn. At those speeds, you have to brake now, brake hard, and keep hard braking right up to where the turn starts.
      I think this absurd braking distance is what gets big bike riders into lots of trouble on the track. You think, 20 mph extra, brake a little bit earlier, but no, it's brake a LOT earlier.
      After that first track day, realization hit in with how dangerous the 80 mph and above speeds are. They don't feel dangerous especially if you're wearing good equipment and form-fitting suits.

    • @kaysea4325
      @kaysea4325 Місяць тому

      *in America*
      Fixed it for you.

    • @slimfit767
      @slimfit767 Місяць тому

      ​@@kaysea4325lol ikr

  • @dontaylor1124
    @dontaylor1124 Місяць тому +9

    76 Year old with SV650, can and upgraded seat. Sold my Suzuki 1100 Super Comp with 1428cc and a baby shot of NO2. No longer need to go 157 mph in 1/4 mile lol .

    • @JohnnieV
      @JohnnieV Місяць тому

      I love my SV650. I like my can. Sounds great. LV.

    • @Scooter_built
      @Scooter_built Місяць тому +1

      New bike sounds fun,
      Old bike sounds really fun.

  • @facsimile-io3dd
    @facsimile-io3dd Місяць тому +10

    No. Smooth fast acceleration, cornering and an awesome front-end matter most. Top speed is limited by quality and width of the road. MT-09 has a top speed of 236 km/h, thus its gearing is quite short. Yamaha claims 117 hp and 69 ft-lb (93 nm) but on a dyno it only delivers about 105 hp, and 66 ft-lb. i.e. Yamaha are quoting the crank number, not the rear-wheel number. MT-09 has the peak power of a CBR600RR from ten years ago, but has about 42% more peak torque (and all over the rev range). That CBR did 256 km/h at 15,000 RPM, and it got there due to RAM-air. The MT-09 makes 236 km/h and gets there fast because its gearing is short. Thus a CP3 feels stronger than it is. This is like adding 5 teeth to the rear-cog of a CBR600RR. In other words, Yamaha thinks acceleration and wheelies are more fun for riders than a high top-speed. Totally agree.

    • @nonyabusiness4151
      @nonyabusiness4151 Місяць тому

      Your statement shows the importance of aerodynamics.

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster Місяць тому +7

    I absolutely don't care about anything past 150-165. And I only want that as an assurance that my 30-140 will be as fast as possible.

  • @giovanhagar
    @giovanhagar Місяць тому +5

    It's more important to be able to hit potholes and not be thrown off the bike if you live in the midwest.

  • @Drobium77
    @Drobium77 Місяць тому +10

    In America, it's more important, because you have the infrastructure and chances to do top speeds on bikes.
    Come to the UK, with average speeds cameras and ordinary speed cameras everywhere, terribly maintained roads, and a war on motorised vehicles, and we don't really get to do top speeds very often.
    However on back roads, between 60mph and 100mph, our motorbiking comes alive, and it's where we have the most fun.
    We don't have long, boring straights for miles on end, most of our roads are twisty and tight, so slower speeds is where the skilled riders learn the most.

    • @RatCatcher7287
      @RatCatcher7287 Місяць тому +3

      Same as brazil, i have a 250 Honda that is a lot faster than my city allow it to be with all the speed traps, speed bumps and overall cameras

    • @logangodofcandy
      @logangodofcandy Місяць тому +2

      You mean the land of the free has lots of cross country highways? We don't have great roads. Just good enough roads.

    • @Drobium77
      @Drobium77 Місяць тому +1

      @@logangodofcandy You do have some amazing roads over there, but the majority are dull as ditch water

    • @BeardedStigg
      @BeardedStigg Місяць тому

      I can do 100k miles and never hit a highway in the US. Theoretically of course, some incredible views especially in the northeast imo. Plenty of mountain ranges to ride.

  • @BigVictor
    @BigVictor Місяць тому +65

    Unless you have a KLR 650, than you're hitting your top speed every time you pull out of the driveway. 😂

    • @bluefrog8670
      @bluefrog8670 Місяць тому +16

      Top speed is the KLR's only safety feature.

    • @samuelswihart4285
      @samuelswihart4285 Місяць тому +1

      I've only ridden one once. I'm still new to motorcycling and it wasn't my favorite experience so far. It's a good bike, just not for me.

    • @bluefrog8670
      @bluefrog8670 Місяць тому

      @@samuelswihart4285 I love mine, but I'm old and 6'5.

    • @puneetsharma1437
      @puneetsharma1437 Місяць тому +1

      everyone should laugh at 650cc single but they do it.

    • @tsubadaikhan6332
      @tsubadaikhan6332 Місяць тому

      * then?

  • @stephenflowerday4038
    @stephenflowerday4038 Місяць тому +19

    40+ on a bicycle is mad ! I hit 30 down a hill on a bicycle near me. With shorts and t-shirt on feels like 120+ on me motorcycle ! Hahaha

    • @bobbybob3447
      @bobbybob3447 Місяць тому

      I did almost 56 mph on snow skis this year.

    • @stephenflowerday4038
      @stephenflowerday4038 Місяць тому +1

      @@bobbybob3447 You’re a better and braver man than most of us dude !

    • @bobbybob3447
      @bobbybob3447 Місяць тому +1

      @@stephenflowerday4038 It was actually a bit hairy. I don't have giant slalom or downhill racing skis, so that was really pushing it and not on some long, wide, flat run, either (I use an app with GPS to track all of my skiing). People think crashing on skis is just a gentle fall into puffy fluffy snow. NOT. AT. All! The snow is compacted and compacted repeatedly over the course of the season and is quite solid on impact. So it's not risk-free by any means. But it did feel especially good when I looked on the app and saw it was my fastest run all season by about 8 mph. I was actually pushed to do this because ex-roadracer and fairly novice skier (and much younger than me) Taylor Mackenzie went over 62 mph (100+ kph) at some posh European resort. I'm not sure he really appreciates how fast he went.

    • @stephenflowerday4038
      @stephenflowerday4038 Місяць тому +1

      @@bobbybob3447 62 mph ! Ffs yeah that’s mental ! Snow you can ski on isn’t much less harder than concrete at that speed.

    • @DarrellTurnerJr
      @DarrellTurnerJr Місяць тому +3

      Agreed. I hit 35 mph downhill on a bicycle and it definitely felt waaaay more dangerous than 100mph on a motorcycle.

  • @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
    @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne Місяць тому +15

    I ride a ZZR1400 (ZX14 in the USA). It's generally accepted that the mighty Kwak is a seriously fast bike, however, I certainly never bought it for its top-speed prowess. I bought it for its straight line stability and comfort. The fact it does getting towards 200mph is quite incidental as far as I am concerned.

    • @nonyabusiness4151
      @nonyabusiness4151 Місяць тому +1

      I'm not celebrating my top speed, I'm celebrating the ease and stability it took to get me there. 😅

    • @divyansh7264
      @divyansh7264 Місяць тому

      200 kmph not mph

    • @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
      @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne Місяць тому +2

      @@divyansh7264 I do wish people would read the comment properly before posting a reply, and also check their facts.
      1) I did not say it *will* do 200mph I said it does "getting *towards* 200mph"
      2) 200kmh is equivalent to 124mph and the big ZZR1400 is limited to *186* mph.

    • @pauly1k
      @pauly1k Місяць тому +2

      I bought my hayabusa for that same reason. I disagree about YN saying it’s only fun above 100 mph. The acceleration is fun to me.

  • @LeonSparrow
    @LeonSparrow Місяць тому +6

    Yes, 190mph was important to me on the daily commute.

  • @davidemartorana4708
    @davidemartorana4708 Місяць тому +15

    I literally never check out the top speed of any veichle, its probably the most useless stat. If anything it is better to check out the gearing

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 Місяць тому

      My 2.0 diesel car has a top speed of 137mph I couldn't care a less. Going over 100mph would get me banned. I'm not sure why any vehicle designed for the road Goes over 100mph

    • @kuma_score7536
      @kuma_score7536 Місяць тому +2

      @@chrishart8548 efficiency, you want them in a certain RPM range when sitting at highway speed to improve fuel economy and a speed far above the speed limit is just a side effect.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 Місяць тому

      @@kuma_score7536 I believe using half the available horse power is key for the efficiency of any engine.

    • @kuma_score7536
      @kuma_score7536 Місяць тому +1

      @@chrishart8548 the less you use the better, more power means more fuel being pumped into the engine to get that power. if you was able to just idle or sit at a low RPM like 1000 on the highway then that would be a lot more efficient then if you're geared to drive at 3500RPM. you're not having to use nearly as much of the cars power or fuel to keep the car in motion

  • @JoseLgamer05
    @JoseLgamer05 Місяць тому +10

    Top speed matters if it's below like 100mph past that becomes kinda irrelevant and more so the higher it goes (at least for street riding). And even that going that fast is pointless, it's just nice knowing you still have some breathing room at typical highway speeds.

    • @S1Z3M
      @S1Z3M Місяць тому

      Bushfires can travel at 100mph

    • @bigtreecombatacademy2927
      @bigtreecombatacademy2927 Місяць тому

      @@S1Z3Myeah cause always outrunning max conditions bush fires

  • @drakeb6168
    @drakeb6168 Місяць тому +3

    I think i can agree with this one. Using the bike and navigating my commute is a much more fun experience than just a top speed run on the hwy.

  • @YacolJ
    @YacolJ Місяць тому +5

    Top speed has many nuances, but Yammie hit all the good points. This is why naked bikes are big now. Shorter gears, with no wind guards is more fun than long gears and going 180mph. Top speed matters to my cruiser buddies more than anyone else, I've noticed.

    • @DarrellTurnerJr
      @DarrellTurnerJr Місяць тому +1

      I own a cruiser and I agree. The issue is that big cruisers have all this low end torque and you can get up to 100mph pretty quickly but then there is suddenly nothing left after 110 to 120mph. You know it's more there but the manufacturer decided not to give it to you.

  • @Foodgeek
    @Foodgeek Місяць тому +2

    My rebel 1100 goes 100 mph maximum, but honestly, it's not fun going faster than that on a naked cruiser 🤣

  • @20Unknown
    @20Unknown Місяць тому +11

    I topped out my 2018 Honda CBR650F @ 110 mph in 4th @ 8800 RPM. That was it. It scared the ever living shit out of me. So to me, yes, for performance purposes, but no, I don't really care about really going that fast.

    • @SammydaSquid_CBR
      @SammydaSquid_CBR Місяць тому +2

      I have a 2016...ditto!! 😂

    • @joetheagent
      @joetheagent Місяць тому +1

      mine is a 2015 and I don't think that bike really handles that well much above 100... its OK... but its not great.

    • @logangodofcandy
      @logangodofcandy Місяць тому

      Doesn't handle well? 110 isn't bad on my scrambler xc

    • @RickMold
      @RickMold Місяць тому

      ​@@joetheagent Strange. I did 146 mph on speedometer (134 mph on GPS) on my CB650R naked bike with no aerodynamic, and it was 100% stable. It was a nice highway stretch with perfect pavement though

  • @tylerrichter4066
    @tylerrichter4066 Місяць тому +2

    Going 60 on a dirt road with a 4 wheeler is terrifying

  • @gunmanbrave5024
    @gunmanbrave5024 Місяць тому +1

    10:22 our yam really grew up, from saying 600s are all one may ask for, to saying just get a litre bike, and even calling the highway throttle pinners ar squid, i guess it's the adv dad slowly taking over, the Ducati desert sled is doing it's thing ig😂❤

  • @justinball580
    @justinball580 Місяць тому +3

    Bikes that can pull hard between 30-130 seems to be my favorite sweet spot.. and the MT09 SP it’s exactly that
    Beautiful bike yams

  • @LawdJay
    @LawdJay Місяць тому +14

    It's somewhat important, i agree with your 130mph statement. want to know that if I'm on the highway, that i have enough in reserve for passing if necessary. IDC if it goes over 120mph, but i need for it to be able to hit 120mph. That way when i do 80-85, i have roll-on. Ive had a bike that topped out at 90, they arent fun on highway.

    • @JohnnieV
      @JohnnieV Місяць тому +1

      I had a car like that. Lol. 1324 cc wow it was slow.

    • @Scooter_built
      @Scooter_built Місяць тому

      Sounds like my DRZ.
      Can’t even pass people on the highway 🤣

  • @noahknight4039
    @noahknight4039 Місяць тому +1

    Top speed is mainly used on UA-cam by people who don’t ride.
    The people that say something is slow because it can’t go 200mph. Or it doesn’t do a 0-60 in under 3 seconds.
    It’s a turtle brah.

  • @dan_kay
    @dan_kay Місяць тому +2

    What I really care about is my driving license, which is directly tied to the maximum speed limit in my country. So, the only thing I really have to think about is how fast does a bike get me from 0 to the speed limit, which, in my country, is at 120 kilometres per hour or about 75 mph.
    Anything beyond that is useless for me, unless I go to certain German highway sections.

  • @TheGreatChrisB
    @TheGreatChrisB Місяць тому +2

    This is why you need a Husqvarna 701 Enduro/Supermoto. It's a street legal dirt bike so the first 2 gears have insane torque, but it also has gears 5 and 6 for cruising and high speeds. Plus it weighs 330lbs wet.

    • @logangodofcandy
      @logangodofcandy Місяць тому

      Nobody needs anything that ugly. I'll walk.

    • @slimfit767
      @slimfit767 Місяць тому

      ​@@logangodofcandyyes walk,thats exactly what posers should be doing.

  • @adamstobiecki9549
    @adamstobiecki9549 Місяць тому

    This makes so much sense. I've owned speed twin 900 for 2 years now, my first bike. I found my hand was itchy to twist the throttle to go fast the first year. As a new rider it was exhilarating to go fast. As my skills are improving, it's more and more fun to do the twisted road riding and go through gears while listening to the glorious exhaust sounds. I've had my friends compliment the sound of this bike a few times. I once swapped bikes with a buddy and got a chance to hear it from the side, while going through gears. 😍. Pure symphony

  • @MIKER1DES
    @MIKER1DES 18 днів тому

    This is why I love the 1200RR. Easily can hit the top speed without a second thought, yet perfectly comfortable and streetable in any scenario

  • @dawnanddavid7648
    @dawnanddavid7648 Місяць тому +1

    The video is where I am in my mid 50's. I would rather be able to carry the front wheel across the intersection and be at the speed limit by the time I cross under the stop light is what is fun for me. Every street bike I've owned at some point I lower the gearing. I realized long ago triple digit weren't good for my wallet or my longevity.

  • @Mr_Phoskitos
    @Mr_Phoskitos Місяць тому +4

    If the speed limit on the roads around you is, let's say, 80 mph and the top speed of your bike is only 60 mph. Yeah, maybe in that case you could say top speed is relevant. Negatively speaking in this case. Otherwise, at least for a street use, if you can do +20 mph above the speed limit with your bike I would say everything above that is irrelevant. Again, for a street use.

    • @logangodofcandy
      @logangodofcandy Місяць тому +1

      US highways often hit 80mph. Bike must go 100 or it is trash. I agree.

  • @leanit5756
    @leanit5756 Місяць тому +2

    On my former R1, my favorite twisty backroad required speeds of 80 - 120 to be exciting. On my XSR900, something like 65 - 105. On my KLX300, something like 60 - 70 MPH. Pretty crazy how the stability, wind protection, ergonomics, and vibration levels affect the experience.

  • @BlackArroToons
    @BlackArroToons Місяць тому

    Good video and point that on public roads, top speed rarely makes a big difference in most situations. Slowing down can actually be fun, allow for a much longer range on a full tank to empty, and allow one to also enjoy the scenery around them (while paying attention too).

  • @Super_Squid_
    @Super_Squid_ Місяць тому +1

    Jeremy Clarkson knows best about this topic. Speed and Power

  • @House_of_Zodd
    @House_of_Zodd Місяць тому +2

    Nope i have plenty fun on my 390 duke. I can ride everywhere i want interstate included with no issues and i can go 90 in the twisties (allegedly). Going faster would be fun for sure but i definitely don't need too

  • @indy5797
    @indy5797 Місяць тому

    This is why I love my 2013 Speed Triple so much. It's engine and gearing are ideal for the street. It hits peek hp around 9k, and peek torque (111) under 8k. Top speed is only 140, and I could care less. I'll take grunt and squirt over 150mph any day of the week.

  • @ThomasDKawi636
    @ThomasDKawi636 Місяць тому +2

    If the Federal Government Doesn't Follow the Law, why should We Follow the Federal Speed limits??

  • @jeremycorley2307
    @jeremycorley2307 Місяць тому +1

    Gsxr brethren, we must continue the path of the squid. Yams speaks of heresy!

  • @Brian-zg9ff
    @Brian-zg9ff Місяць тому +1

    Top speed is irrelevant. What matters is how fast I can get to 85

  • @joetheagent
    @joetheagent Місяць тому +1

    Started on a CBR650, bought a VFR800, then an FZ1. I agree with Yam... top speed is largely irrelevant on the street. The FZ and the VFR can cruise at 130 or so on the free way all day long and both will top out way above that... but you can't ride that fast without getting arrested or deleted so.... what is the point? The acceleration and available torque of the FZ make it a really fast fun bike... but you are still riding a 1000cc bike on a 100 degree day sometimes and you can never really touch the top end. Never had the 650 try to cook me to death like that and you can usually rev the shit out of it and bang through the gears like a maniac without the same worry of extreme speed... So far for me the 650 checks the most boxes with the VFR a close second. The FZ1 is undeniably a fantastic bike but the 1000cc is pretty over powered for 99% of street duty that I'm doing.

  • @hatchetjack1031
    @hatchetjack1031 Місяць тому +1

    Try to do the TON every time out on my KTM RC390! TON UP CLUB, INTERNATIONAL!

  • @davidbrayshaw3529
    @davidbrayshaw3529 Місяць тому +1

    Do you enjoy the bike? Is it easy and comfortable for you to ride? Are you "quick" on the roads that you ride? Numbers mean nothing on a motorcycle. Top speed, acceleration, weight... they're all just numbers. Ride the bike that you're fast on, not the bike that's fast.

    • @20Unknown
      @20Unknown Місяць тому +1

      Here, here! 🍻

  • @RoderickVoordouw
    @RoderickVoordouw Місяць тому +1

    I had a ZZR1100/ZX11 for 15 years which in another time before Hayabusa', was the fastest bike on the planet. I once did 260km/h/160mph with it and it didn't break a sweat, which could not be said of it's owner and it could go even faster and if tests are to be believed, 6th gear gearing could take it up to over 300km/h if it had more power. I freakin loved that bike. I never did that speed again, but that relatively large carburated smooth 4 cilinder would poodle along in 4th gear all day and it had sufficient power in the lower revs to drive around comfortably. Acceleration was always a hoot if I wanted it, but it would be gentle in it's reactions when riding slowly. Yes it was ludicrously fast, but as YammieNoob says, everything around it is built for it. I have riden a few 600's, a Hornet 600 and a GSR 600, but aside from steering well, I miss the low end grunt and they sound boring. A Ducati Monster S2R 800 was wonderfully strong in the lower revs but gave more the higher you went despite the 'measly' 77hp, steered as on a knife edge, but in normal traffic was like riding a rodeo when on roundabouts behind a slow car. I once started out with a Z305GP which was terrible, you could rev the nuts of it and still get passed by Mondeo diesels at the traffic light. Now I drive the here much maligned FJR1300 and I love it. Lovely linear grunt whenever I want it. It could pull a small trailer. Top speed is somewhere over 240 or 250km/h but I never try it, just the power and stability that comes with a powerful bike is great. I can also fit on it as I'm a big heavy guy. Short summary: fast bikes are awesome because acceleration is always available and everything is built around the power.

  • @iredlinezx1634
    @iredlinezx1634 Місяць тому +10

    130mph is plenty

  • @russelllroni
    @russelllroni Місяць тому

    I love my Z900. Put the full Akrapovic exhaust with flash, dyno tune, and a 16 tooth front sprocket to make 1st gear more than 10 mph....lol. Couldn't be happier!

  • @peeperpawsmcgee
    @peeperpawsmcgee 10 днів тому

    I ride a 2023 790 duke and I love it. Easily hits 120mph effortlessly can't imagine what revving near it limit would be like. It hits 120 at about 6500 or 7000 rpm with a tuck

  • @malcadorthesigillite2541
    @malcadorthesigillite2541 Місяць тому +1

    Topped my MT-09 at 150.
    First and last time.
    I just wanted to know.
    Top speed is irrelevant past 120 on the streets in my opinion.

    • @christiannovak3204
      @christiannovak3204 Місяць тому +1

      I owe a MT-09 too with 62. The only thing I care is the acceleration. And thats soemting this bike is very capable of. 0-100 KM < 3 seconds, that thrills. I care about top speed only riding one of the super sports bikes of my friends.

  • @jakob8372
    @jakob8372 Місяць тому +2

    id say its a good marker to know how fast you can go comfortably but other than that its mostly prestige

  • @MichaelJohnson-ou5bv
    @MichaelJohnson-ou5bv Місяць тому

    Couldn't agree more! FUN is measured in SMILES. Past 140kph here in Australia and it is loss of licence, and (depending) loss of vehicle. This works out fine for me, I've bought a 2022 MT09SP and 2nd gear redlines just around there. So it is perfect to come out of a corner and bang 2nd off the limiter and quick shift into 3rd for a little extra, and then upshift into 4th and ease off the throttle. Magically, 4th gear is in the green power band at 110kph and in the white at 100kph. What I do once I've come back down to legal is (a) get ready for the next corner or offramp by going down a gear into 3rd, or (b) pop into 6th and hit cruise, turn music to max and breath it out! In 6th you have heeeeaps of overtaking power, and the fuel economy is insane (I think I average 4.5L/100km). Then after you've enjoyed your favourite tunes, disable the cruise and double click the quickshift down to 4th again and enjoy ! ! What a machine.

  • @dolphinride5157
    @dolphinride5157 Місяць тому

    As long as it is capable of at least 100mph that's good enough for me. It would make zero difference to me if a bike could reach 500mph. What is important to me is: comfort, safety, weight, maneuverability, quality, ease of maintenance, the screen, and the ability to have fun on it. For me, the fun factor comes from low end grunt and high revs. My next bike will probably be the 2025 Yamaha XSR900 IF they put a comfortable seat on it.

  • @Andrewofftheblock
    @Andrewofftheblock Місяць тому +1

    I’m a gen 1 busa owner and top speed is a very important part of my life😭🤣

  • @mariobernard5583
    @mariobernard5583 Місяць тому

    My take on motorcycle top speed is this: all motorcycles have the same top speed - fast enough to stop your clock.
    Be safe and Cheers!

  • @corujariousa
    @corujariousa Місяць тому

    My answer: NO! 1) This is a silly fetish very common with young new motorcyclists. 2) Most people don't ever develop the skills to use the full capabilities of modern powerful motorcycles. 3) A very small percentage of motorcyclists ever go to a track to really push their limits and the bikes'. 4) In real world, going fast is tempting but still a recipe for so many problems... Let's use (and protect) the brains we have and ride responsibly so we can keep ridding for many years.

  • @GurrasGarage
    @GurrasGarage Місяць тому

    No, not anymore, but I used to think that was important. Riding a naked bike at 200km/h or higher is not enjoyable on public roads.

  • @cwfirebird
    @cwfirebird Місяць тому

    I consider it as a part of the equation. It gives an idea what 6th gear is capable of in terms of the gearing. The highway and passing torque is definitely more important.

  • @PleadTheFifth_Racing
    @PleadTheFifth_Racing Місяць тому

    The stock 16/43 gearing on my Honda Fireblade had a theoretical top speed of 223mp. The bike doesn't have enough power or aerodynamics to even go that fast. After dropping the gearing to 15/44 the bike is way more responsive on the street, still capable of breaking 200mph at the top of 6th with the limiter at 15,500. That being said I usually try and keep it 150mph or less anyway.
    My Ducati SFV4 SP2 is another crazy machine with a top speed of somewhere around 180mph which is nuts for a naked bike but that's what 200whp machines get ya!

  • @stevec6427
    @stevec6427 Місяць тому

    And another thing...
    Peak power doesn't matter on the road. Midrange power is far more important, its more usable more of the time and is what you really feel on the road.

  • @AustinOuellette-vr1vp
    @AustinOuellette-vr1vp Місяць тому

    I loved and miss my Daytona 675. Was nowhere near the overall fastest 6, but I could beat the GSXR6 and ZR6 to 30-90. One of my overall favorite bikes. Was so fun. And sounded so nice with the two brothers slipon.

  • @JDP-we9hk
    @JDP-we9hk Місяць тому

    My Street Triple 765 will go from 40/50 to well over 100 so fast it's insane - and it's loads of fun when you can do it safely. And pulling the daily hundo each time out is a must. Top speed? Hell if I know...

  • @HepauDK
    @HepauDK Місяць тому

    As far as I remember, the 1st gen R1 was limited to a top speed of 168 mph (270 kmh). Not that it didn't have potential for higher speeds, but Yamaha wanted it to get there as quick as possible.
    I had the pleasure of test riding it at the Jyllandsringen racetrack in Denmark back when it came out. I was out test riding the R6 beforehand, and it handled like sh!t. The steering geometry was probably out of whack because of the 3 times it had crashed before it was my turn. It definitely understeered like crazy. I had already tried the ZX9R at an event at a local dealership, and read in a magazine that the R1 was even crazier, so I was a fair bit intimidated by it. I rode my 2 laps and it just behaved beautifully, not a hint of over-the-top craziness. I had to provoke it to do a wheelie (probably shouldn't have done it at the pitlane entry).
    Another time, I test rode a '99 Kawasaki ZRX 1100. I managed to get it to 146 mph (235 kmh), but it wasn't exactly a pleasent experience, as I had to hold on to the handlebars for dear life, or I would have been torn of the bike by the wind pressure. In my experience, unless you are on a cruiser with a high windscreen, 100 mph is the maximum comfortable speed before you have to duck down behind the screen.
    After having owned only 250's ('86 CB250RS, '84 GSX250ES and '91 GSX-R 250), I am SO done with small displacement bikes. Well, the Ninja 500 SE, that I plan to get next year, isn't exactly a large displacement bike, but at least the engine will be happy at the rpm it takes to ride at the maximum allowed ~81 mph (130 kmh) on the freeway here in Denmark.

  • @a.t.f.7633
    @a.t.f.7633 Місяць тому

    I built, rode and raced small bore bikes for 40 years until I finally broke down and bought a Ducati 999 when I thought I was grown up enough to handle it responsibly. I had the engine built for strong midrange so if I want a quick blast to 250 kmh it's just a quick roll on in 4th and I'm gone.
    There is just something about seeing that "- - -" on the speedo that makes me want to go for it more often than I like to admit. Maybe it's just that it wouldn't do it when stock, idk, but it's addictive. I also live in a place where there are a lot of incredibly smooth, fast and remote mountain highways within a couple of hours of my home, which makes it even harder to resist.

    • @dolphinride5157
      @dolphinride5157 Місяць тому

      I'd love to ride on the roads you describe. Where I live most of my rides are between 30 and 60mph because that is all the roads will support and the police love to write tickets for even small infractions.

  • @rubenbentein
    @rubenbentein Місяць тому +1

    What’s the bar mount for the insta360 camera? I’ve snapped already 2 of them just from vibrations… yours looks sturdy 🤩

  • @MediaNocte3000
    @MediaNocte3000 Місяць тому

    As an rider of a 150cc sub 300 pound bike, pinning the throttle only gets me up to 70, but with such a light bike it is a bit scary.

  • @quincyisom2969
    @quincyisom2969 Місяць тому

    I don't wanna be a Yami simp, but all his recent videos, Ive already thought to myself in the past about these topics and agree with 95 percent of what he's been saying. Along with the 2 new vids he's made. Good shit yam, good influence.

  • @joeln6861
    @joeln6861 Місяць тому

    I agree- top speed is not the end all be all, as long as it can comfortably go somewhat (15mph) over the speed limit and can be able to pass traffic. As long as it can easily hit the range of 90mph or so and can accelerate away from crazy drivers, you don't need a top speed over that.

  • @bulletproof844
    @bulletproof844 23 дні тому

    I love riding fast, but there is a sweetspot, at a certain speed it just becomes stressfull. Since I want to "relax" on the bike I see no point in going as fast as possible.

  • @kaysea4325
    @kaysea4325 Місяць тому

    "Speed limit" in Germany when you see the white sign with 3 stripes it no longer exists. Top speed matters then unless you are trying to get smoked by a bmw driver

  • @johnhinson9866
    @johnhinson9866 Місяць тому

    I ride to relax and enjoy the scenery, not excessive speed!

  • @matthewbump6997
    @matthewbump6997 Місяць тому

    And here I feel like a Rockstar getting my CB500X to 85mph.

  • @stephenharriau1406
    @stephenharriau1406 Місяць тому

    In Florida, you better keep up with traffic, 90-95 at times, just to stay out of the way.

  • @SS-or7mz
    @SS-or7mz Місяць тому

    I have found that I enjoy the 0 to "speed limit" more than anything.

  • @danielhavener5393
    @danielhavener5393 Місяць тому

    Ive done a couple top speed runs. Got to 180+. Definitely more fun accelerating around town.

  • @AddumEnied
    @AddumEnied Місяць тому +2

    Top speed is only important when its too low, like with 125s or the RE350s. It also gives a good indication on how stressed the bike will be at cruising speed. So for it to not be too stressed or reving too high at 130kph, the top speed needs to be 200+. While smaller stuff, like your natural A2 bikes at 48hp, can technically cruise at 130kph, so far it has always felt like I'm doing something terrible to the bike that it doesn't want to do.

    • @bigtreecombatacademy2927
      @bigtreecombatacademy2927 Місяць тому

      My 500x handles 130 no problem with around 48hp
      And I’m 117kg in gear

    • @slimfit767
      @slimfit767 Місяць тому

      American problems

    • @AddumEnied
      @AddumEnied Місяць тому

      @@bigtreecombatacademy2927 And unless the gearing is different on the X, it probably sits at like 6.5k rpm doing that, which is probably fine, but I wouldn't be fine with doing for hours.
      Also not American.

    • @bigtreecombatacademy2927
      @bigtreecombatacademy2927 Місяць тому +1

      @@AddumEnied about 5500 rpm but it’s over the limit here

  • @SkinPeeleR
    @SkinPeeleR Місяць тому

    My bike has a top speed of 140kph depending what i weigh.
    It's enough for a dense populated country like the Netherlands to use all gears without losing your license.
    Cops in the Netherlands don't warn...

  • @harshaldesign
    @harshaldesign Місяць тому

    Here in India on a motorcycle, 100 kph feels fast enough given the amount of traffic on the road. 120 kph feels like you're pushing your luck. Above that, everyone considers you a dead man walking.

    • @harshaldesign
      @harshaldesign Місяць тому

      I ride a scrambler 400x which produces 39 bhp. It feels more than adequate. It has shorter gears, so it accelerates pretty quickly. It's fun and I don't feel underpowered at all.

  • @seeul8rwaynekerr
    @seeul8rwaynekerr Місяць тому

    I used to care. Then I realised that the top speed on anything over a learner legal 125 here in the UK is readily enough to break every law in the land.
    No, no, no, no, no!
    Any bike is always faster than any car here in the UK as we can and do lane split with
    Surprising efficiency.

  • @rxdxctxd2287
    @rxdxctxd2287 23 дні тому

    problem is ill happily sit 130 on my sprint st 1050 but soon as I start creeping further it just gets more and more uncomfortable for little gain and assumably a lot more danger than I already am in. My bike is capable of 160+ but to be honest you will never have a good enough road that has low enough traffic for it to ever come into play.
    that being said knowing it can do a decently high top speed gives me confidence I can cruise at high speeds without worrying about pinning the engine.

  • @_Jaded_
    @_Jaded_ Місяць тому

    My unqualified keyboard warrior opinion:
    Tires, important.
    Brakes, important.
    Suspension, important.
    Ergonomics, important.
    Everything else just boils down real/perceived personal preferences and the risk/reward ratio that everyone uses to justify their choices.

  • @newbierides
    @newbierides Місяць тому

    I ride an MT09 and nop, dont care bout top speed. This bike accelerates extremely quickly 0-100, which is more than needed for any fwy and any city ridding.

  • @channehemiah1501
    @channehemiah1501 Місяць тому

    I knew yammie looked like a cyclist , just got that feeling and I do imagine what you ride 😂😂

  • @JessicaSimonson1976
    @JessicaSimonson1976 Місяць тому

    I was attempting a top speed run on long country road. When a sheriff flashed lights and brights I slowed down, and he shut off lights never came after me.

  • @planetbizzaro1839
    @planetbizzaro1839 Місяць тому

    Yes. Of course we ALL care about top speed. I test it out every time I'm on the bike. My ZH2 goes about 160 very easily and with a little bit of flashy, tube change etc I'll get it over 200. And I'll do THAT every day 😘👍

  • @OLICIT
    @OLICIT Місяць тому +1

    Only school kids and squids really care about top speed

  • @contessa.adella
    @contessa.adella Місяць тому

    Yes…everyone should go as fast as possible right until you lose your license! Silly question, unless you go to track days or care about boasting points. Most folk don’t need high speed, good acceleration and comfort are what matters.

  • @CelticArmory
    @CelticArmory Місяць тому

    I don't care about top speed on my own bikes. I prefer function and comfort first. I will never get my FJR1300 up to it's top speed, there's nowhere in my area I can legally do that. My step son, however, wants to go 200mph through city traffic like he's in MotoGP.

  • @calvinlondt3037
    @calvinlondt3037 Місяць тому

    I prioritise torque, with the requirement of getting a minimum of ~100hp.
    My previous bike was 80 ftlb & 108 hp V-twin and it was perfect.
    My current bike is an upgrade more for the 95 ftlb than the 170 hp, and on a V4 it has a glorious midrange pull, top speed of 260kmph is probably never going to be used, but it can easily relax at 200 which is the highest I would go on an empty stretch of road.
    Both bikes are 1200cc, the Griso 1200SE slightly less and the VFR1200F slightly more.

  • @dwaynegibbs4481
    @dwaynegibbs4481 Місяць тому

    I'm a competitive cyclist (Trek madone), have a car as well but from time to time I would borrow my dad's Suzuki EN125 to make some quick spins. The motorcycle nor car has never given me the same experience I get when taking a 90 degree corner at 30 mph on my road bicycle.😂

  • @Britdetector
    @Britdetector Місяць тому

    Yes, I do care about it. Although I will be 70 in 9 weeks, and am currently without a licence due to being medically unfit (my left foot and ankle had a 15 hour operation to rebuild it, and 10 days later my right hip was replaced, which will take another 45 months to recover from having had those operations in January following an accident(not my fault) in October previous year).
    Once I have my licence back I will be travelling to see friends in Germany and the Netherlands (I currently reside in Northern Ireland, United Kingdom), and as you know, I hope, the United Kngdowm has a top speed of 70mph, the Netherlands a top speed of 120kph, and Germany UNLIMITED in many parts of its Autobahn system. So I nèd a motorbike that will do something around 130 - 180kmh for hours at a time in Germany, without stressing the engine, gearbox, or brakes, and not drinking tons of go juice, which it would at max rpm. It's also nice to have a reserve of power if you want or need to overtake.
    So something around 650cc to 1100cc will be plenty, abd preferable a dual sport rather than a sport or large cruiser.
    Tell me if I'm wrong ?

  • @peterfong1556
    @peterfong1556 Місяць тому

    People ask me how fast will she go, I tell them I don’t know never been close to there. Then I ask them how fast their vehicle will go, have they red lined their vehicule?

  • @phil4986
    @phil4986 Місяць тому +3

    Top speed is jail time or a death sentence on a public road so not me, not anymore. Despite numerous car, motorcycle and bicycle accidents in my younger ages, I am still in one piece. For some reason, a small street enduro bike is calling my name. I think I might have a fun addiction.

  • @EvendimataE
    @EvendimataE 27 днів тому

    I DONT CARE ABOUT TOP SPEED. I DONT EVEN GO TO FREEWAY. I ACELLERATE QUICK ONLY FOR ABOUT 3 SECONDS AT A TIME JUST TO FEEL THE KICK...I RIDE FOR ABOUT 30 MIN A DAY AND THAT MAKES ME HAPPY ALREADY...LOL

  • @mikebenefield6690
    @mikebenefield6690 Місяць тому

    There is no way I am the only one who has a stretch of road where they max their bike out regularly ! BMW 1200gt

  • @ellwoodwolf
    @ellwoodwolf Місяць тому +1

    Nope, that's why 120 mph cheaper bikes have exploded. 100+ hp, 120 mph with a full sized rider, good adjustable suspension, and nice looking... It's all I want...

    • @logangodofcandy
      @logangodofcandy Місяць тому

      Lots of bikes can't do 120. Sounds like top speed has a 120 goal

  • @Wintersdark
    @Wintersdark Місяць тому

    For me, its irrelevant after a point. I want a bike to still deliver strong power at high speed - if incrank on it at 80mph, i want to to launch forward. But once youre getting past 110, 120mph? Thats so rare to do it hust diesnt matter anymore. I mean, my MT10SP is capable of going way faster than I'm really able to ride it. Not because of skill, but rathwr because wind blast is so strong after 150+mph on a fully naked bike.
    It reolaced my stolen Tracer, and honestly i miss the CP3. Not that the CP4 lacks midrange power (it definitely does not) but because most of what i gain (way higher top speed) is actually useless to me. Im fully cognizant that what the MT10SP gives me *in practice* is just bragging rights, not anything actually fun or useful.

  • @stephenharriau1406
    @stephenharriau1406 Місяць тому

    Personally, I don’t have the reflexes to ride over 120. Plus, my mileage drops off BIGLY after 80-85. I travel by motorcycle and like stopping every 200 miles, not 150.