MASSIVE CHANGES | Campagnolo Super Record Wireless
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Campagnolo Super Record Wireless ditches rim brakes, loses the iconic thumb button and shifts to individual batteries for the derailleurs. Add to that a wholesale change in approach to gearing and there’s a lot of new tech to get through.
We’ve been in Italy riding the new groupset, so after giving you all of the juicy tech details, we’ll let you in on our first ride thoughts.
But what do you make of Campagnolo’s new top-tier groupset? Do the derailleurs look too big to you? And what about that price!?!
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:36 Five Things You Need To Know
01:17 Wireless
02:05 Shifters
04:03 Front Derailleur
04:40 Rear Derailleur
05:39 Chainrings
07:14 Cassette
07:44 Cranks
08:11 Brakes
08:59 Ride Impressions
11:40 Outro
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Campagnolo Super Record Wireless - thoughts? We want to know what you think of this design 👇
Awful
Yes, awful overall. Also, I don’t know where you got the information that the new crankset uses the Protech axle. It says right on the product page that the SR Wireless cranks use the Ultra-Torque axle.
Campy and SRAM are so far behind Shimano in regards to electronics, just look at those monter mechs and batteries. Also they havent paid attention how the other brands have increased size of paddles due to consumer feedback. Good luck shifting correct gear in thick gloves, cold mornings or in a hetic race
I wanted one more top grade rim brake bike, so I ordered a V3Rs in October, 2021, frame size 58s. After 15 months, Colnago had not built the frame. My LBS found a C64 rim brake frame in Colnago’s US warehouse, size 60s. We had already decided that an EPS group set would be better than a mechanical Record or Super Record for a bike that would have internal cable routing. So 11 years after Campagnolo introduced EPS, I have version 4 of EPS on my C64. I have three other rim brake bikes with Record 12-speed. I’ve been riding the new bike since February 3, and have about 3000km so far. I have done one charge at just over 1000km. With close to 2000km since that charge, I have 40% battery charge remaining. The group set works, of course. But I don’t think it is any better than a mechanical gruppo for my riding.
Would I buy the new disc brake only SR Wireless? I think you can guess the answer.
@@colincampbell8311 at the start of the lockdown I ordered a C64 frame and separately the Bora WTO and SR EPS v4 and 18 months no frame, nothing. So I cancelled the frame and reluctantly bought a SWorks Aethos and stuck on the Italian parts… well, love it! The only bad part is… occasional clunky shifting and once in a few months the shifter locks and no shifts for like 1 minute but otherwise…. All ok. Love the brakes and levers. Works and gorgeous looks. But the new SR EPS… meh…
I’m a hardcore Campy fanboy. But this groupset genuinely feels like Campagnolo has just run out of ideas. Nothing on this makes sense. Why lose the thumb shifter on an electronic groupset? Why introduce yet another different BCD diameter and make your own 12sp groupset generations not cross compatible? Why introduce a 10tooth cog - that just seems like a desperate move to justify using the N3W freehub on the road groupsets. Why bother equipping each derailleur with its own battery when they’re not interchangeable? Why make this groupset so obscenely expensive? Honestly. I’m using Campag since the 9sp days even though I’m not that old. But this one I don’t get. No point in bothering with this. I hope they get their shit together next time round. Otherwise Campag will just become completely irrelevant.
Except for the calipers everything else has been an aesthetic downgrade from Super Record EPS. Just looks like trash.
And why not 13 speed, why no 1x option, why no rim brakes and again, why so bloody expensive?
i’ve been riding campagnolo for ~15 years and couldn’t agree more
the answer to your question about why the batteries are different is in the video: sram patent
The totally logical step for me would have been to introduce Super Record EPS 2x13, including a 1X option. Make Ekar cassettes and SR cross compatible and give people the option of a mullet setup if they want. Win Win for everyone. Of course no one needs 2x13. But then again who needs 2x12?
The name that started and led the way, is now following! Tullio Campagnolo is SHIFTING in his grave! MECH campy great again!
“Shifting through the cassette in one hit can be a bit crunchy, but it’s good enough.” Not when the groupset costs more than my entire carbon bike with Sram axs Xplr on, it isn’t! For that money it should be flawless!
By "crunchy" they probably mean that it's a little noisier than Shimano, but it's still fast and precise. The noise has always been intended, because Campy wants you to hear that the shift has gone well.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 the wrong choice of words then I guess.
to this day i never thought i can find a derailleur ugly
You are 25 years behind . That is the last time i have seen nice looking RD [example Dura ace 7700 or campy from 95 ]
@@dodoslovensko maybe you don't known that there is a range of nuance between ugly and nice looking where a lot of modern derailleur fit in
and maybe you don't known about Ingrid derailleur
but maybe you prefer to insult a random person on the internet because you just spend 5k on an ugly groupset with two potatoes hanging of it and you need to justify to yourself
I love Campagnolo and have used it exclusively for 25 years. I wouldn’t dream of having Shimano on a road bike. One of the main reasons I love it was always because it was beautiful but as the years go by it’s looking more and more like Shimano. Things went downhill as soon as they stopped making the 5 armed cranksets which were gorgeous. I‘ll stick with Campagnolo but SRAM is beginning to look tempting.
Try it before making a decision. I did, and I prefer my 2007 10Sp Chorus. I still never get behind my friends with their new bikes and technology....
I can guarantee you SRAM wont disappoint. Happy owner of a Red eTap 11v. AXS is identical with software upgrades (and obvs 12v). Fantastic, beautiful (eTap more than AXS), ergonomic, intelligent system.
@@daniellafleur8079 I’m still happy with my 2011 11 speed Chorus. I have to admit to loving the fact that I rarely see another bike with Campagnolo when I’m out on a ride.
New bike with Sram Red 12s. I love it. I have been with Campy for 15 years 10s Chorus.
On a more important note: the Campagnolo Centaur groupset along with the Campagnolo Zonda and Shamal aluminium wheelsets are no longer mentioned on the official Campagnolo website. Which, in other words, means they have been silently discontinued. A total shame since I own both the Centaur groupset and the Zonda wheelset and they are amazing value for money.
time to stock up on rim brake components, boys
I was hoping to go electric with new shifters and mechs next year but I guess that will never happen.
Better get some spare shifters. (11 and 12)
@@eriksmith5898 you can still do rim brake electronic shifting with SRAM Force and Red.
@@SecwetGwiwer YES!!!!!!!!!!
The derailleur is huge looking, very odd
I thought the ugliness of the Etap wireless derailleurs couldn’t be outdone. I was wrong.
@@RB-xv4si Yep, makes SRAM derailleurs look acceptable. Makes Shimano's shadow design look positively sexy (which I used to use to describe Campy!)
@@thedownunderverse exactly. DA Di2 is now easily the best looking of the three. Because they sensibly decided to keep the batteries off of the derailleurs. They’re the new Campy.
I ask this of di2 as well: why have two buttons on the left shifter at all? The front chainset is a binary choice, small or big, it’s an on off button, yet they engineer two separate inputs.
pretty simple: suppose you’re in the big ring but think you’re in the small ring and want higher gearing. you hit your binary button, and you’re really screwed (suppose a sprint). however, hit the button for higher gearing, and it essentially just lets you know you’re already in the highest. and vice versa
Just checked multiple sites and had tons of options. May want to get on board quick if thats the way one wanted to go but like i said, tons of options. Pricey options!
Does the new electronic shifters from campag do the old school slam jump shift? Example. Largest rear cog / slam to small maybe going down a hill. Or a shimano one step shifting and no slam dump. Or going up a hill.
Campagnolo Super Record 12 v Wireless very nice 🔝🔝🔝🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
I have been with Campy Chorus 10s for 16 yeears. New blike with Sram Red Electro 12s. Just great. I love the easyness of usage, battery transfer and facility for rechrarge. I am in Canada, getting service and parts on Campy was more and more difficult. Service on Sram is so easy,
Funny - at €5200 this is exactly twice my budget.
In short: very nice but I can’t afford it.
Plus not a fan of the shifter design.
I guess for now the Ekar groupset remains top of the range
It's twice what I'd probably would spend on a new bike😅
Sounds like s downgrade in many ways. The hood shape was one of the only things cammy did better than the others.
Yeah, the levers are fugly. The nice curved lines of the 11sp groupsets were peak modern Campagnolo.
What quick does the chain use please?
5 grand with mediocre performance compared to Shimano 😂
I already thought bike industry prices were getting stupid. Now I'm really sure.
Fat barister groupset
i am a campagnolo user ( centaur 11s )... since a long time. This new groupset is so expensive, ugly, loses campy " spirit " ... so it is useless.
@@pennetierphilippe8529 by campy spirit, you mean outdated and deliberately unnecessary feature designs compared to the competitors more modern build designs?
@@slowcyclist4324 i mean : seems a litle " look a like sram ( battery ) and shimano ( shifting )... For me, no more " campy shifting style " is a big loss...
I have the Campy Super Record EPS and no wires are visible. And I love the thumb shifter, always have. There is thus no reason to move from EPS to wireless group. Quite the contrary.
2:05 Which groupset are these shifters from, please? They look incredibly comfortable and I would buy them.
Very confusing. I’ve been riding Campy since 2003. Have disc super record EPS now. This seems like a downgrade in almost all respects. Bulkier derailleurs. Ditched the quintessential Campy thumb shifting. Aesthetically IMO it’s just less attractive looking. Crazy price points and launches without a power meter which should be standard at this level. And then funky cassette cog combos. A new app (should just fix the old app and make it better). And apparently the total system is heavier. So what is the point here. This seems very disappointing
The aesthetics are certainly...interesting
Awesome! The grupo of choice for cycling puristas has caught up. That said, €5200 price tag will likely limit who buys it. Once wireless shifting makes it to Record (in 1-2 yrs?), the initial kinks may be gone, and price should be more affordable. Something to consider for my next bike.....
Unfortunately that RD is quite a lump and IMO the jury is still out on the vertical shifters’ usability of which was not really mentioned in this video. I’ll stick with my SR EPS thumb shifters. And if you’re looking for a lower tiered wireless then nothing can beat the Di2 in 105 or Ultegra.
Would love to get a new bike and the Campy wireless but will wait to get the bugs out.
Why the hate? Remember guys, this is a pro level kit. The $$$ goes with the territory. Looks better than Sram IMO. Just got back from a lot of descending in Dolomites, riding outgoing Record disc 12. Those brakes are the best in the industry. Black carbon all around and chilled Prosecco, hell yeah!j
😂
Pro level kit? Right you are, pro's get everything free, so perhaps this is the only way this will leave the warehouses.
pro-level kit? how many teams ride campy?
If these are the best brakes in the industry, why are reviewers claiming that they’re not powerful enough to lock the wheels?
@@SecwetGwiwer I run SR EPS and the brakes will eventually lock if you nail the lever hard enough but the rotors are what's called "floating rotors" (there is a slight movement if you rock the bike forward with the brakes on) so they ease on to give you more progressive braking so you can't snatch at the brake and go into a skid. They are awesome! I've been riding my SR EPS disc for the last month and yesterday jumped on my Madone 9 Ultegra Di2 with rim brakes and the feel and power you get from SR brakes are another level!!! I used to have Ultegra disc brakes on a Cannondale that I sold a few years ago and compared to SR, again not even in the same ball park.
Thank you for pronouncing Campagnolo decently. :)
Welcome to 2023 glad to see you here campagnolo….but the price is just stupid
😲😲😲😲😲THE PRICE IS RIDICULOUS!😲😲😲😲😲
Campagnolo, please keep the thumb button, at least keep it as a buying option!
lol good night campagnolo
Campy will outlive both of us, you can rest assured.
i'm not so sure@@fabriziomonopoli5074
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Thanks for the kind words!
Had they used a 13-speed cassette like on Ekar, at least then Campy would've had one marketable reason to buy this group... i.e., the first 13 speed road group of the big brands. However, I saw nothing other than the nostalgic Campy name that made me think anyone would choose this group set over Shimano or SRAM.
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Just built a new bike with Chorus 12 disc. In the end I regret not going Ekar 1X like my gravel. I’m fortunately comfortable but still can’t see spending 5k on a groupset.
Dropping the thumb-shifter is dropping their identity. Arrivederci, Campagnolo!
For me, it’s disappointing that the thumb shift has gone.. I love their brakes, but the price 😳
That rear derailleur. Yikes! Hope it looks better in person.
I have been a 30 year advocate of Campy, but I really don't like the look of the new groupset, and the price..wow!
Haters don’t like this groupset but they didn’t try it. Shimano is recalling Di2 failures which caused thousands of accident. When EPS starts to shift it goes very fast. Braking is smooth and maybe the best. Shimano is cold compared to Campy. There is a soul in this groupset. It might not be perfect but it is a real pleasure on the road. Only improvement would be to make wireless connection faster because I have impression of a very small delay, maybe for next software update.
I have been using Chorus 10SP since 2007. If I would have to make a decision today I would go Chorus 12SP Disc. No reason to pay for new technology especially in loosing iconic thumb button. As for the wheels In 2018 I replaced my Eurus for Bora Ultra 35mm. Very pricy decision for poor increase performance. Today I would go Shamal Disc. Of course if you want to show of your wallet capacity you buy high end products, but expect to bee laugh at in terms of performance capacity. Show off as a price to pay........ In the bicycle words, you always be better off by keeping your money in the wallet versus loosing wait. As an example losing 10 pounds on the body versus spending 10,000$ more on the bike will be giving more performance, more pleasure and more proudness…. Have a great ride.
Possibly hard times coming for Campag…. What do they have for any decent volume? Ekar group set and the Bora WTO wheel set and that’s about it. 😢
Hard times coming? They've been loosing market share for a generation. My local bike shop won't even work on Campy because it's not even worth their time keeping up with. Campy could be a nice buy for a major company looking to get into the bike market but no one should pay to have this on their bikes.
@@VirgilOvid yeah, quite true. A bit sad…
@@VirgilOvid Back in October 2013, I was one of eight Campagnolo enthusiasts from around the world who were the guests of Campagnolo for their 80th Anniversary. The company makes its high margin profits by manufacturing high-tech components for the aerospace industry. Airbus, Eurofighter, and Arienne. Unlike 95% of the commentators here, I can comfortably afford to buy this high priced stuff. I have a Pinarello Grevel with 13 x 1 EKAR Campagnolo and Vittoria tubeless 650 x 47 which handles like a A-4 Skyhawk. I am an old guy who used to be a U.S. Navy Officer and a Naval Aviator and I have pulled 8 1/2 G's in the Skyhawk. I just returned from Lake Garda in the foothills of the Italian Alps riding the latest Pinarello Dogma with Dura Ace Di2 as a rental bike for seven days. I hate the little electronic buttons on the shifters. The Dogma had 50/34 and 11/34, so a one to one climbing gear which was necessary for 12% inclines. I have already paid in full, and am having built to my exact spec, the latest Pinarello Dogma with this new Super Record wireless group. I miss the thumb shifter, but that"s "progress." My "Speedster Silver" bike will have 50/34 and 11/27 gearing and Campagnolo Shamal carbon wheels with the new tubeless Vittoria Corsa N-EXT 700 x 28 tyres. I have been riding Campagnolo since the Spring of 1985 when I was posted to the Supreme military HQ of NATO (SHAPE in Mons, Belgium) for three and a half years. A bit of a change from catapult shots and arrested landings off the Aircraft Carrier which I had been doing for the previous three years. I bought a steel frame and fork Eddy Merckx and had it built up with Nuovo Record and Campagnolo wheels with Vittoria sew-ups. And, yes, I have ridden with Eddy on a couple of occasions. I love the handling of the Dogma, and bluetooth is great progress from the previous EPS wires. Everyone has their own opinion: A lot of whining kids who could never afford a Grevel were disparaging its looks and price. Now, people who will never earn enough in their lifetimes to become financially independent and be able to actually buy this expensive stuff, whine about the appearance and cost of the Super Record wireless. Its like actually buying a Ferrari for cash; if you can do it, good for you! It you don't have a third of a million or more in the bank, just be an appreciative spectator, and don't criticize the shade of red chosen by the paying customer.
It's what happens if Shimano and SRAM had an Italian baby.
Campagnolo Super Record 12v Wireless 🔝🔝🔝🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Austin Allegro of groupsets. Also designed by an Italian 😮
Dude $4,000 for a groupset, this is crazy. Yeah it's cool not to have any wires but it's not $4,000+ cool. If they kept making 10 speed Record with decreasing prices over time I'd keep buying it for decades.
Get 10 speed Record right in my soul
so it's made of plastic, it's bloody huge and the shifting performance is "Good enough". Yeah that sounds like 5k worth of Italian mastery
For god's sake why remove the thumb shifter
For god’s sake, why buy Campagnolo in 2023 ?
Cause the thumb shifter was awful. Almost unusable in the 2 main riding positions (in the drops and aero hoods) since it required a thumb/wrist contortion to use.
I’m a huge fan of italian’s bikes but even i found beautiful the design over Shimano or Sram but the thumb shifter makes me stop to buy a campy system, i’m going to buy the new De Rosa Merak with Campy Rims, saddle Selle Italia, but sincerily i was consider tu put on this bike Sram Red AXS simply cause i don’t find practicaly the thumb shifter, now with this new group practicaly the bike it’s gonna be all Italian except for the pedals (look) and the handlebar (FSA)
@@galenkehler Different hands probably. In my case the thumb shifter felt more comfortable and easier to use than Shimano. 3 years with previous get EPS. But I do not like the new groupset. It may as well burry Campag.
Sram? Is that you in there?
Campi goes directly to the coffin with that move ... just my humble opinión
the front and rear derailleurs have got tumors best to remove before it spreads
like the comment, love the username
It looks like they removed the thumb shifter, then added two thumb shifters to each lever. The derailleurs look clunky, the chainset less premium than previous iterations and the discs look tacky and cheap. For a 5 grand groupset Campagnolo should have taken their design inspiration from the Corsa Record groupsets of the early 90's and come up with slick modern lightweight carbon versions of the same. Maybe then 5 Grand would begin to make sense.
With only one pro tour team left still using Campy, and rumours they'll be moving over to Decathlon next year, it's not looking good for Campy. Respect to them for their innovations, but this groupset is too little too late. You can only play catch up for so long until you just can't keep up.
They told us that they will have a team next year. Wouldn't say which one though
What rumours they'll be moving to Decathlon? What does this mean?
Sadly SRAM still has a more complete and compelling offering.
Even if this was priced the same as Chinese electronic groupsets, I wouldn't chose it. It's hideous.
@@inthefieldunderthesky capital punishment?
It's sort of ridiculous that the derailleurs don't use the same battery (SRAM holds the patent for that), but it looks like Campy's front derailleur won't have the same clearance issues that AXS front derailleurs have. On gravel bikes, certain tire sizes will actually contact the SRAM battery.
Unbelievably ugly derailleurs, especially the front!
The smaller chainrings and sprockets ensure more friction than with a DuraAce group.
Yup, the industry tells cyclists that they need oversized jockey wheels, and a 10 tooth cog. How gullible would you have to be?😊
50-34 isnt so bad. but the fact that it only gets smaller from there is just weird as hell
Seems like a downgrade compared to the previous gen … from a campy eps user
Shimano all the way! 36-52/11-30.
Confirmed: Campagnolo don't know why they exist either.
Dude, speak your mind truthfully. This copy of SRAM can not be what we have been waiting for. It looks 10 years dated and no bells or whistles. Super nonsense is what it is, while you are at it, perhaps you can justify the ridiculous price. Ok, I get it, it's a prototype 😂😂😂
Why does it look like it's been sand blasted??
Small front chainrings are dumb. Don't get me wrong, they have its place. However, for efficiency and smooth shifting at high speeds (when you need tight gear ratios the most) they suck. No wonder pros hate small front chainrigs. This is another groupset for dentists.
I'm an amateur rider and my 52/36 is honestly the best. My bike shipped with 11s 11-28 and I replaced it for a 11-25 because the 52/36 is already a great all around set.
I put a 50/34 pair on my commutor bike because the 44/34/24 was a pretty terrible combination. I can't even keep up with Cat4 riders and I ride these gears.
I think the pros are riding what manufacturers WANT them to. Because otherwise why are the fastest riders in the world using compact gears and wide range cassettes?
For decades, 11-23 or 11-25 was the standard along with 53/39 or even larger rings
Pros use big chainrings literally because they ride fast, simple as that. On my 53-11 I am getting spun out just under 70km/h, Pros pedal down a descent or sprint faster than that.
@@michaelmechex No it is not simple as that. It is not just about having enough gears for not spinning out.
They should call it SRAMpagnolo, except that the front and rear batteries aren't interchangeable, and there is no integrated power meter. It is surprising that Campagnolo chose to keep with twelve cogs and not make the jump to thirteen. I have to admit I am a fan of the SRAM system. I expect within the next few years Shimano will put individual batteries on the derailleurs to complete their own transition to SRAMano.
$RAMpagnolo, maybe?
5,000usd lol
I stopped after I heard disc only and the cost. 😮
These stopped our hearts
Oscar deserves an Oscar, the invisible cycling actor. Huckle . . . chuckle!
They couldn't make the derailleur batteries interchangeable because SRAM has the patent on interchangeable batteries?! Good grief🤔
It's certainly a strange one.
Going wireless - very okay. Derailleur batteries not being interchangeable between front and rear - very un-okay. No interchangeability with previous 12-gear gruppos - most un-okay.
Front mech looks like massive potato
the guy who dreamed this gruppo up looks like a massive potato
This is nail to the coffin for once....thumb shifts is gone which is unacceptable. They don't need wireless,it will be best they could go semi wireless system keeping the main features thumb shifts alive. Now they are just losing more regular customers away to elsewhere.
Thumb shifters and 5-arm cranks are all we want
First Campagnolo high end gruppo that I don't like at all. Fancy SRAM...
Only rich people with glamour lifestyle will buy 😂
This is sad new about the this new group set I will see more problems h a head this
I don’t know what are they smoking but it’s expensive. Super record bike would be like 15k minimum
I might be the only one who's disliked the ride feel and inefficient 10t cog. I really hate it how it feels on my SRAM . Useless gears combined with smallest chain rings ...not efficient.
The more I find out, the more it looks like a complete disaster.
Agree.
Ask Campagnolo why someone have to Choose them?
What has happened to tradition??? Give me an option for brakes. I guess now the only option is to go and buy as many rim brake sets as I can to keep my frames happy in the future. Thumb shifters????
Thanks for chasing away lifelong customers.
I love it! Nothing matches campagnolo maybe shimano! I will be getting 4 sets for my pinarellos! Sexy group set in the world. Like the other person, I would never support Chinese products….
lol dude you just came here to casually flex the fact that you have 20 grand to spend on groupsets for your four Pinarellos
short answer: No. long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
omg _)
8:27 Yes, of course, it was snatched away by the Chinese, which I had predicted years ago!
It is a bit chunky, isn’t it? Really bulky.
The derailleurs are certainly sizeable
Looks like more money for inferior tech...
Big money for a group set with a clunky FD? Are you kidding me?
Conclusion: "The shifting is slower than the latest Shimano Di2, but faster than the SRAM"
😡 disappointed! Was expecting the first set of wireless brakes!
Probably won't see this any time soon. Imagine if the battery runs out of power - it could be your last ride...
@@jc_sanchez it was a joke . . .
Sounds very complex and unfinished... I am not sure...
🤦🏼♂️
10-29 max casette is a joke.
29t matched with the 48x32 chainwheels give approx same ratio as 32t rear/ 50x34t front. Good enough for the mountains where I go.
@@aluminati9918 48/32 is a joke.
@@jkk916 I'm guessing your avg speed is 40+kph?
@@keinpietz7697 No it is not but even for me 52/36 is way better.
@@jkk916 I ride 48/32 with 11/32 in the back. The only moment I feel I could use 50 or 52 is when I'm bombing down steep descents @66+kph. In regular riding, so 30-35kph, 48 is perfect.
5k and no brake point adjustment 😂
The reason it's ditched is because they found out people aren't really utilising the feature.
@@yonglingng5640 Who are "people"? I have small hands and for me it's an essential feature. Reach adjustment alone doesn't cut it. I will never buy another groupset without brake point adjustment if I can help it.
@@UloPe I'm with you! Which leaves Shimano
No rim brakes? ... China is calling 😀
10 tooth cogs are just terrible
Thumb button is a joke. Thanks it’s gone. Italian trying too hard again
Signed their own death certificate.
I’ve been waiting years for this but I feel very let down. The changes have been made to appeal to the rich fat old mamils who spend their days riding the mountains. There is no rim brake option which means I will have to buy a new frame and wheel set. Stuff that. I don’t have £15k to spend.
What are you going to opt for, Andrew?
A 9 sebességes record rendszer óta szar a camapagnolo, ez van 😢
A 10-es record titanium volt a legjobb, ott kezdődik, és ér véget minden váltót egybevéve is...
Amúgy ez tényleg nem egy nagy durranás, én most 12-es chorust használok, (szeretem)
Ország legjobb campa szerelője azt mondta, hogy nem lesz semmi baja, csak a rugók veszíthetik el rugalmasságukat idővel, de az könnyen orvosolható.
Shimano has already won even with massive coolness.
Why it does not cost a 25 000€? Who would want so cheap crap
I agree, too cheap for my liking.
Ugly, what happened to the Italiano design aesthetic?