The Anglo-Indians Of Madras --- Episode-1: Santhome
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Documentary Film
Directed by Richard O'Connor & Harry MacLure.
Narrated by Richard O'Connor.
Cinematography & Editing by Nicholas Moses.
Produced by Anglos In The Wind for Pepper Watcher.
Music: Days Are Long - Silent Partner • Days Are Long - Silent...
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Anglo Indian here. Born in Bangalore, but our family on my father’s side started in Madras. I grew up in Australia but am now learning of our Indian heritage. So glad to be from India! These documentaries are very valuable for those of us who were discouraged from asking questions about our family history.
awesome. Hope you discover more about your roots.
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'erb, men. watchoo doing these days?
'Ow's Mykil? Still riding the cykil?
So Sir,How often do you enjoy a meal with a curry?
was led here from the Madras History Group on Facebook; and wanted to thank you for making this documentary
this will be an important part of the history of this city
I hadn't heard of Anglo Indians until about twenty years ago. I have always enjoyed history.
Later learned more through those ancestry programmes - Billy Connolly has Indian ancestors -.
I find these videos very interesting and enriches my understanding of history in all parts of the world.
Thank you.
I second this comment. It is very interesting thank you
Wow, fantastic video thank you 🙏 for making this beautiful video 👍. Thanks Richard, Harry and the rest of the team 👍
Thank you for this video I was born and brought up near st Lazarus Church,watching this video took me back to my childhood days and to remember so many persons in this video many are no more. God bless you.
Natasha (nee Telles) D'Costa, whom you will see in the video from 6:36 to 6:45, is the wife of my nephew Michael D'Costa, the son of my brother Vernon D'Costa of Chennai, India. She went to London , England to do post graduate studies at the University of Westminster. After returning to Madras she married her sweetheart, my nephew Michael, and they and their two children, Aaron and Amaia now live in Auckland, New Zealand. Uncle Derek Michael D'Costa, SJEHS-B'lore'63, IIT-Kgp'69, P.Eng.'76, FEC'09, OVSA'10, PEO-WT'19. Celebrating 50 years in Toronto, Canada this year! March 20, 2019.
Thanks Richard for the sweet memories !
Wish you and all ' A HAPPY X'MAS AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR' .
I am from sri lanka and my maternal grandmother Evelyn Cooke hailed from Madras but after two years she went back to Madras without any trace. I wonder if there are any Cookes who would know of this incredible woman.
Janaki, your grandmother's name sounds SO familiar to me ! My mother knew her... I think. Where in Madras was your grandmother? could it have been in St. thomas Mount? Pls let me know. I can be found on facebook under CHRISTABEL PAPOUTSIS (my married name) My mother was Isabel Jones and she sang with a few well known choirs, as she had a gorgeous soprano. We are Protestants. and MOM was very active in the Church. She and my sisters & I left India in the early 70's for Canada, where my mom passed away in 1990. Please let me know more of your grandmother? I also just joined ANGLOS IN THE WIND, today. I haven't been very involved in the AI community as I've had a busy life out here. I stumbled across these episodes accidently last night, and now am determined to finish watching all of them! (: Its great as I've shared them with my adult son, who's half Greek. Its also great knowledge for my 3 young grandsons to know their roots. (: I look forward to hearing back from you at your earliest.(:
I love who I am, an ANGLO INDIAN! Please do a sector on the Anglo Indians of the Nilgiris! Thank you!
Maikil coming on the cykil.. 'Oo the 'ell do yall tink you are men?
Did you know the Enoses? Aunty May Enos taught at Lawrence school, Lovedale and then ran a prep school for kids who wanted to get into Lawrence. She's still around, past her century and lives in Wellington.
Thanks. Looking forward to many more such videos covering other popular Anglo-Indian suburbs.
Very interesting documentary. I seldom studied in Delhi based Patrician Brothers school Mount St Mary's and was admitted by Rev. Bro Jerome Ellens and Rev. Bro Christopher Dawes. Brothers O'Rourke, Devery were all founder brothers of MSM. Bro Brenan retired ans spent his years as an old man in MSM grounds always wishing us. Lovely to see them here. Delhi also had a bustling Anglo community engaged in schools, hospital's and embassies.
Great segment ! looking forward to the others listed here ! Been very busy with my hectic life in Canada, and glad I stumbled across these episodes last night ! NICELY DONE !
Looking forward to the next episode!!
please make a video on pondicherry french people. the sape culture of pondicherry. it was prevalent in 1970's and 80's
What is sape culture? As a pondicherrian myself I have not heard about it
Excellent ! I had so many friends in Delhi & Bangalore ! I also worked in calcutta. Lost touch with all of them !! I also left india in 1995
So happy for the anglo indians who were smart to migrate and leave India
Other wise others like in Macklyganz suffering and regretting hope I was too an anglo indian would have left long back.
But madras anglo indian look like indians
I enjoyed your film. We have done a film on a similar subject looking at the Anglo-Indian community in London. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. Great job on your film.. :)
Happy go lucky community, a strand of India loosing it's sheen and numbers had some great friends from this community.
Excellent job Mr Richard.
No matter, you live in Switzerland mate. You will never get those old days back.
Time travel karlo "MATE" 😂
St bedes .. school of our hearts
Mrs.Loreto was my first holy communion mentor, use to take preparation classes before the Aug 15. She use reside exactly opp to Mylapore Bishop House.
Great job done you Richard
Expecting more such doc's from u
Much appreciated. A marginalized community with dwindling numbers in India, this community has been quite instrumental in contributing to the nation by virtue of its various creative skills in music, art and literature. Mixed marriages and migration have become the latest trend and very soon this community could go extinct
One of the best youtube videos I have watched on the 'community'. As a child of the community, I have mostly stayed away from the god-awful stereotyped anglo Indian videos, and for good reasons. However this is a well-put-together video, well researched and most of the secondary research is on point. I have personally used some of the well-known names seen here in this video in my post-doctoral thesis.
As a tamil Very proud of our diversity.
So I live in India, and I am Irish and every time I run into an O'Connor, O'Brien or Brady I am still amazed.
i am very happy to see the wonderful information of the anglo indians and their contrubution to the indian society in many ways. by fr.moses sdb
I studied in an Anglo India school in coimb tore they had a border house for the Anglo indans they were a good lot of nice pretty girls from erode Calicut thinking of them sweet memories
Iam from Hyd sindh ..no connection wid any Anglo but love to watch docmentries about anglos
Thanks Richard, its good to know about the history of anglo-indians which I was not aware of earlier and their contribution to India especially in education, its also coincidental that i got familiar about anglo-indians through a documentary made by GoMorefilms last month where you also featured and now you have decided to give us more insights in to their past
Dutch never conquered Pulicat. They were just given permission to build a trading out post.
YTD72 Dutch were not just in Pulicat, Dutch even occupied Naicker government ‘s coromandel coasts of what is today’s tuticorin distriict. Google Dutch seize of Tiruchendur temple
Great work! Appreciate all the effort to help people of the Anglo Indian community reminisce the precious past. Ona side note, I suggest we do need something same for Bangalore.
I recognize Jennifer Arul.
She used to be a correspondent for NDTV, if I can recall well.
thank you for the start of a dreat series ............
No Anglo Indians here, but my great, great grandfather was born in Madras in about 1880. Lots of Nicolays born and buried in India.
I'm proud of st. Bede's....school of my heart.....
Very informative and interesting.. Well documented.. congratulations!
Anglos , the most dynamic community of India.
Very interesting and informative. Congratulations on your great effort.
did not one of the apostles st thomas land in madras
I find it intriguing that I've noticed a distinct British heritage influence along the eastern coast of India, particularly in places like Madras and Bengal. Surprisingly, this is not the case when we examine the western part of India, where there is a significant presence of people with Indian Portuguese ancestry. Locations like Goa, Vasai, and Diu Daman serve as common examples. Interestingly, the Anglo-Indian phenomenon in Bombay, or what is now affectionately known as Mumbai, appears to be less prevalent despite its proximity to England.
Amazing documentary
India would owe the development of the Railways to the Anglo-Indian. Then how about the Customs Departments, the Posts and Telegraphs, the English medium schools, colleges and kindergartens, the beautiful air hostesses, the fashion shows, dance schools, stewards and hostesses in most upmarket establishments, and the Hockey and Cricket teams.
How about the acting and film schools, the dress designing and tutoring schools, the anglo-indian cuisine and administrative services? We can keep naming a dozen more of Indian infrastructure first established and nurtured by Anglo-Indians. We cannot miss the army and air forces, the sea faring anglo-Indians and the air line pilots that grew these service industries
-ONLY 1840 km of RAILWAY track was made from COAL mines to PORT..
-INDIA PRESENT 64,000 KM 2nd LARGEST railway network in the world
- INDIA largest POST service developed after INDEPENDANCE
- English Medium School ?
-lIteracy rate in 1947, 14% , 2018= 84%
-COLLEGE & KINDERGARTEN : 1947 = 64,
2018 ENG college= 10,650, medical college = 650, arts -24,000 COLLEGES in INDIA
-Beautiful airhostess ...?
-Fashion show...After INDEPENDANCE, INDIA has 2nd HIGHEST MISS WORLD TITLE - 5 time after venezuela.
-STEWARD & HOSTESSESS keep UPMARKET...? R u high on weed ?
- HOCKEY was under BRITISH INDIAN ARMY ACADEMY ,,,,irrespective ,,of religion,,it represented BRITISH INDIAN TEAM..
COL.DHYAANCHAND, 5 DECADE of dominance over HOCKEY in OLYMPIC
-CRICKET..by ANGLO INDIANS...?
MAHARAJ RANJIT SINGH TROPHY, MAHRAJ SAYAJIRAO...ThEY nurtured CRICKET in INDIA
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Your LOGIC ,,,BLOOOODDDDYYYY BUUULLLLSSSHHHHHIIIT BASTARD...
R u son of those of anglo BASTARD or BASTARDIZED versionn of ANGLO INDIAN born out of ONE NIGHT PAID STAN...?
Tell me the TRUTH R u BAG of RICE CONVERT?
- Ru realllly bastard ?
You're completely wrong. Never distort the facts. All the gold and wealth was taken to GB . We were left with nothing more than land. It was all which we developed by hard work.
At last some truthful perspectives on the British presence in India. My mother was born in 1947 in Bangalore. My 2nd great grandfather George Norris was in the police. Then his son followed in to the police too. His wife was mixed race with British and Indian parents. They lived in Whitefield in Bangalore. My great grandmother on my mother's side was also mixed race. Having only grown up in England I would say that Anglo Indians have been ignored. We are culturally a bit lost.
Am ah happy Madras Indian 🎉
Myown h0me Town loves it
good
His statement that "no Anglo-Indian lives were lost during the 1857 mutiny" is wrong. Maybe not in South India, but certainly in northern India. See Herbert Alick Starke's book "The Call of the Blood" (Rangoon, 1932).
@@joanblack2154 Numerically more Anglo-Indians were casualties in the Sepoy Mutiny, 1857-58 than Britons.
Beautiful
Main problem of declining Anglo Indians in India is that they never tried to mix-up with locals after independence
Richard, it appears you have some Kottayam blood as well.
A couple of months back I was introduced by an Anglo friend to a Facebook music group called Yesterday Once More . Boy !!! it was an excellent surprise for me as I always lamented the dwindling numbers of Anglos in the country . I went to a Christian Missionary school and my friend and teachers there were mostly Anglos and they have had an everlasting and a profound influence in me and I always long for my school friends and my Anglo teachers .
And the group Yesterday Once More was a happy days are back again for me after almost 40 years !!!! . Well the group has been shut for some strange unknown reasons but it was great reading those nostalging Anglo names which was an extremely pleasant experience for me.
Nice documentary
Very Good
Where do I fit in
THEY ALL LOOK COMPLETE INDIANS ,WHY ADDING THAT ANGLO INTO THEM!!!!
south indians and british mix produce a person who resembles north indians
Darker genes are dominant, so many Anglo Indians had dark skin. This does not mean that they are not Anglo. Please educate yourself on this topic before commenting.
@@megaempire8543 please do a DNA test, you will get a reality check, All Goans like to claim they are Portuguese too, when they did the test, they South Indian / Sri Lanka, it is sad when you want to be like your Past Colonial masters
I would ask why young educated Indians are leaving .
It's not just about Anglo Indians .
Mostiddle class families pursude their kids to leave India.
Sir How could you miss DOVETON CORRIE :(
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Were the Indian people prejudiced?
Surprised no comment of The Oldest Teacher Mrs X'aviour who died at the rich old age of 105 nor her two widowed daughter's Brenda Christopher now 75 years of age n Iris D'silva and brother Rev FR Lionel X'aviour 78 years old has been taken .They are very much residing bang nest to the Linn Pereira Street paralel to Doming Street.Why has no interview been taken by the poorest Anglo Indian Community inside the Anglo Indian Quarters been taken or at the Doming Street far end of the Beach been covered nor the All India Radio Beach too.So many Anglo Indians still live in the poorest of conditions.The famous CID office of the Marina Beach that gave employment to 75% Anglo Indians of which Mrs Sheila Luccas.IS still very much alive being 98 years old n lives in Chennai Kala Sherrattra Dance Accademy ? Dr Barbara Thyab Ali.
Love from ... Dooming Street.....
Don't u think the AIs were EXPLOITED by the Brits. Maybe they gave them jobs but never really let them rise in the ranks. They should hv bn smart like the Parsis who
got land n other benefits fm them.
Good content. Poor audio.
I am aghast at the low standard of English this current generation of Anglo-Indians speak.
English is a language. They are okay with it. You keep your language with yourself. We can converse better than you in your own god damn language. Fucking bastards.
What exactly is Anglo-indians or Pariahs! I really don't like the attitude & behavior of this community especially the ones who consuming liquor which has made a bad impression on most of the Anglo-indians which other Indians kootaa's have taken advantage of especially Malayalams know as maaloo's & Andhra Pradesh know as kaadaapaa's these Assholes have intruded into the Anglo-indians way of life and have deprived the Anglo-indians of their benefits and legitimate claims & benefits that was denied forcing most of the Anglo-indians to immigrate to other countries like Australia Canada New Zealand UK and USA etc. This was unfortunate and led to the desentration of most of the Anglo-indians becoming a disappearing community in India. I sincerely hope & pray for their welfare and well-being in the coming future and perhaps one day becoming those Good old days where Anglo-indians once enjoyed what they rightly deserve for their hard work & honesty. God bless the Anglo-indians Community.
Is there a central agency where Anglo Indians can register themselves
@Glen Highland hi my question was related to Anglo Indian community staying in India. Yes they do have Anglo Indian community registration in Delhi where we can enrol if we have our proof of links
Angloindians were Christians.
Salome John That’s not true.
Anglo Indians unlike Parsis never really Adopted India and Indians , they were inward looking community considering themselves better than fellow Indians and much of their prosperity was due to British benevolence rather than competence and when common public caught to them in competence they lost their edge. Unlike Parsis they were neither hard workers nor much involved with public wrt economic activity in real sense (music , hospitality, theatre these are joke). This video series just shows how they are still stuck in some British Aristocracy culture when British Aristocracy culture itself died in Britain and mainly involved with their fellow community only
The odd thing the Anglos had in their existence was apartheid and segregation with the Hindus with the protection of the British. Anglos enjoyed tremendous social mobility and western style living standards. Anglos had some of the Best Schools in Madras ONLY if you were a Christian. Bible studies and Catholic indoctrination was the norm. Fast forward post 1947, the Anglos who had been previously benefited, found themselves a Target of post colonialism who previously had despised the Indians as an inferior race PANICKED . Anglos packed their bags and left overseas but fate awaited them in these countries. Anglos, in Oz are sticking together with the odd one marrying again the Caucasians thinking white is great. Anglos failed to EXCEL in these countries taking up poorly paid jobs.....as these countries had poor education standards. Ordinary Hindus in Oz have successfully excelled without the protection of the Catholic Church. Pity in 2018 the South Of India especially Tamil Nadu is a powerhouse of economic activity and rising living standards. PLEASE DEPICT THE TRUTH ABOUT ANGLOS IN INDIA AND THEIR EMIGRATION OUT OF MADRAS AND INDIA.
You are right on most counts Jaya. Since we dare to "state the obvious" ,let us see if we can also turn the same magnifying glass and reflect on what WE have done here :
1) Have we taught ourselves the same sense of community and "hanging together" as the anglos have? If so, where are the generous grants and donations for these once famous schools come from? our boys and girls who have studied there or the churches and organization that run it ?
2) Our boys and girls have been schooled and educated by these institutions established and we have been a privy to their homes during the christmas seaons. How many of us have bothered to invite these people into our homes and into our lives during our festivals? Look at the southern railways. Hopefully you have more sense than to quote a bunch of statistics that is associated with general growth of the economy. Are the southern railways the same community now?
3) Where is our sense of pride as native indians? We look at being " cool" with an anglo indian and treat them as show pieces to show off to friends. Then we go back bite about the same people . " They are all plastic . good for a song and dance and thats about it". Why then associate with them in the first place? Do we suffer from an inferiorty complex ? Does taking a position make make me an anglophile?
4) What makes our lifestyle so prolific? We believe in saving for future, in saving for education etc even if we have to cut corners with our lifestyle. Fine. This is how we were brought up. Most Anglo (notice I did not say ALL Anglos) are accustomed to an easier lifestyle (which we might call it) to food , drink and merriment. There are merits to that as well. Their children dont depend on parent's money all the time. They take up vocatinal courses that will find them jobs and earn a living. How many teens and early 20 somethings do we have in our communities that learn the meaning of "pocket money" by working for it? Every lifestyle involves choices. It does not mean that one is right and others are wrong.
5) Have we turned the tide? Do we not have segregation in our own communities based on religion, class, creed and the myraid other ways we have dissected our populations? Are all tamils fighting for the same cause? Just turn on the TV and flip a few channels.
6) Between you and me : We "indegenous indians" go abroad and tell the same story. We are being segregated against based on skin colour and religion. We place people in a box and then complain against the same thing when someone else does it to us. As you sow, so shall you reap.
7) All the old places : Santhome, St. Thomas Mount, Perambur : even veteran lines : sell like hotcakes for property value. Why? because these are communities where the old houses and the buildings still sit in harmony with trees and decent (if not ) bigger sized plots. Then what do our people do? Buy up the land, cut the trees and build monstrocities. Why not live in some "kuppam" or "cheri"?
7) Why do we feel the need to "ERADICATE" a community and REPLACE them with others when we are more than happy to tell people WELCOME TO INDIA.We are all intregrated and happy happy happy...
It is the mindset of people like you that we should be cautious about : you have become exactly the same people you describe. Jingoist, insular and with double standards.
Ramasubramaniam K.R o
Another hate monger with a pet gripe. Need more rants from you agains malyalees, telugus, kanadigas etc. If India had more of your kind then indian children will learn from you and take india forward to join the ranks of syria, etc.
so its good for anglo-indians to look down at brown native indians? and to benefitfrom their whiteness? someone sounds like a colonialist sympatheizer, maybe racism from white people would set you straight
The thing is most Anglo Indians are lovely and warm and would just laugh away your hate-filled comment. You could learn a thing or to from them!
Anglo Indian, what about the Indian in you. You’re talking more about your European half, what about the other half?
Why do you want the reservation? Work hard and get it. India is a land of achievers and not a land of moaners. You get if you deserve. Everyone will be kicked if they don’t respect our culture. It’s high time. Rightly said, bloody bastards.
A bloody rice bag convert or a half bastard need not teach democracy to us. Fuck off you bloody son of a gun. Next time you comment, bring some logic and facts. Now sir/ ma‘am or sha‘am please fuck off
Lol even with white blood they're dark skinned than Punjabi and Pakistanis
@Paritosh Jadhav your life depends on surgery. One doctor is a darker skin who graduate at the top of his class and is the best in the world. Or, you prefer a lighter skin doctor who is a general practitioner
@Paritosh Jadhav I am so glad that you're immortal. However, I see that you have inherited your parent's non critical skills because if they were were critical thinkers they would of used a condom so the world will not have to hear or see the likes of you who is immoral.
This is the problem with a lot of Indians. The focus is always skin colour.
These so called Anglo Indians and Goans, please do a DNA test, they should stop fooling themselves, they are 99.5%Indians, only a very few have European blood. None of them look European. Ha ha ha
If you live in Madras, and you are practicing Roman Catholicism then you are mistaken in your belief about Jesus Christ.