First Ever Global (NA) Riftstone GvG 50v50 WAR - TANKS AND LIBERTY
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
- Kanon, @shroud, and @Stoopzz compete against one of the top guilds in the first global GVG Riftstone War on their server. This was an equal 50v50 fight.
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The raid calling was really good. People don't understand how much your nerves get through to you when you are actually playing at this level. Having a raid caller frantically spam what you have to do in your ear eliminates doubt and overrides your nerves. If he was like "push now!" once there is a good chance people would push for 2 seconds and then default to randomness again.
Edit: Ofc it's personal preference as well but I'd probably never leave a high performing guild with a caller like this, it's worth the entire guild weight in gold
There is a step 'even further beyond' where every party member, clan member, alliance member, know their roles so well and what the others are gonna do, that you don't even need voice coms or typing words anymore to perform at that level. I've been lucky enough to be part of such a group back in lineage 2 days and I still miss it almost 20 years later.
These are the worse shot callers.
Shotcallers that legit do not shut up and overwhelm people with orders are the WORSE ones.
If you already told people to engage, you don't need to scream different variations of "move in" over and over.
And somehow it's always the people with the most annoying voices that shotcall.
very correct the constant calling gives calmness to everyone even tho it looks and sounds hectic
I love the clueless replies from people who clearly have no idea of what they are talking about. This is the standard shotcalling and it works
the best thing about this guild is that everyone is following the commands by their leaders and following fight path.
except kanon lol. was never on the tag.
Leader: "Play defensively"
Dives in flock & *Dies
Hahaha, good stuff. This game is great, and good team work
Shot caller/leader is the hardest job in these GvG games. Make one mistake and everyone is dead. If you play that role, you need to be very critical of yourself to improve before you criticize your players. Also, don't insult people for making mistakes or they just won't come back. Remember PvP is not the main appeal for most people.
This is looking very similar to GW2 WvWvW and Albion Online GvG (crafting/economy aside)
They are planning to add a mode like gw2 wvw. Funny thing is the shot caller shot calls everyday on gw2
Those crybabies who flame the shot caller never played in a high competitive pvp guild and i bet they also never won one.
Not many people want that burden too,
A single mistake will most likely net you a whole spam of flames from everyone 😂
ive been in war with both side at least 400 people in albion, is throne and liberty are that huge or a bunch of small scale?
also how big is guild limit in gw2 and throne?
Absolutely. I've ran with some awful shot callers and some amazing shot callers. Luckily, one of the best shot callers I ever played with in GW2 WvW, who led us to even big wins against big BG zergs is going to the same server I'm going to, so it's a win/win. Very excited to have that feeling back.
This looks like GW2
well it is ncsoft, you know they pulled some favors from anet
i wont say it look like gw2 cause it way different, but it could be same level of gw2 WxW if they proceed to improve the game in their own way, cause the gameplay felt very poor and missing something,
Seeing this reminds me back to Guild Wars 2 time with like Zerg vs Zerg vs Zerg on reset day, good times. I am looking forward to this once I am at end game!
No fucking way their 2nd to last push was all charging in the most congested entrance and getting aoed to death.
I hope the smale scale PvP is more fun. This is just a glob vs a glob, but it's expected.
It is, its similar to lineage h5, just alot smoother / better graphics..more work has gotten into the skills to
First time i see pvp that is anywhere near Lineage 2.
nc soft..
sadly it crashes like no Linaege2 server ever, played em all past 20years ;) and on minimum chars/field view its fucking awful bad game for now for me... I dont believe I will go back to l2Reborn > Throne
@@theScary92you're at EU?
@@rufterloko yep 4 days unplayable
@@theScary92 damn. Sad for you guys.
Everybody push back push forward push back push BAAAAACK FORWARDS I SAID!!!!!FORWARD BACKWARDS FORWARDS BACKWARDS UPSIDE DOWN SPIN AROUND BACK FORWARD SIDEWAYS AND STOP!!!
Is it really that big of a deal for so many experienced players rolling on brand new servers with a bunch of people that have never played the game before?
BIG DAMAGE BIG DAMAGE
PUSH MORE PUSH MORE
CURSES ON THE BRIDGE
SCOUT ON POINT !!
For them yeah content, for us not so much
This is one of the issues with Lineage games in general. The counter is just enjoy PvE and then just buy purp gear when you're ready to fight back lol
I would love to see a guild war guide explaining things like the roles of advisors/guardians, resurrection stones etc.
Nice fight I hope shroud posts this rift stone fight to see his reaction haha I feel like this will be a great game for him to play off stream. Although it doesnt seem that bad for a streamer to get stream sniped unless your OW
What is the weapon combinstion that is best for top-kill in large scale? Staff-bow? Sns-gs?
Flashbacks of Lineage 2 castle siege. This game definitely exceeded my expectation, can't wait to hit level 50.
Did everyone run the same class or something? I'd be down to play heals if it was worth it.
2 healers out of 50 people o.0 i love healing! Is there a shortage of healers in general?
Yes
Yes
Is the shortage of healing because it is difficult for a dedicated healer to participate in any non group content? Like small scale or 1v1? With how difficult it is to level up gear I would imagine most people don't want to commit resources to healing when they could be doing damage instead. I am fully invested into Wand/Bow either way. Heal or No Deal for me.
@thrive207 1v1 healers are the best class.
@@thrive207 healers are very good in small scale pvp too.
I hope the game adds battlegrounds like WoW has. Obviously small guilds can't compete against something like this, so a smaller scale PVP battleground would be fun.
You can build alliances with bigger guilds but I see what you mean. They currently have 3v3 arenas
which healer is best for pvp bow/wand?
stilldecent for pve too?
Awesome battle!!!
can u heal your guild mates even tho youre on diffrerent party?
who's the shot caller?
Thats a nice war.
Anyway whats the victor get?
Which server is it?
did your group really cheat using pre-release transfer characters?
what was the reward
Streamers already finishing game before us peasants even get to play :D
Shotcaller drove me to insanity lol
What build is this?
Can you go into a full detail video of a GS/SS build for PVE and PVP new to the game not use to MMO and im catching hell you seem knowledgeable so im probably going to look forward to your advice when it comes to this game if you find my request worth your time.
I can't get my guild to do anything other then guild contracts. They're the worst.
😂😂😂😂😂
Need to switch servers. Can say karnix already is not the pvp server. I’m looking to switch servers here soon and make my own guild
If you are the leader, then it`s your fault
Then why r u in that guild?
Did you post your GS/SnS build? If not can you please
can you please make a guild leader guide on how to get rifestone and boonstones , i have a max out guild but new to the game still tryna figure out how to claim land please
Its looking reaaaaaaal good
Can u make a guide for sns gs, gear skill etc pvp
The power of money. It helps you go from zero to end game
This is why I never do PvP in a MMORPG… NOPE! Count me out bruh. PvE is King for more content every time.
This game ain't pay 2 win
@@EdenofRivia except GW2 there is nothing to P2W unless you want to get fashions from the day 1.
@@AonyjsViolmlar05 😂 alright. I prefer PvE because I avoid sweaty people unless it’s a hardcore FPS then definitely
@@AonyjsViolmlar05 😂 alright. I prefer PvE because I avoid sweaty people unless it’s a hardcore FPS then definitely
What class bombs these groups the hardest?
Staff/dagger and bow/dagger. On my server both classes compete for top kills consistently. Bow/staff can also compete easily, but you need a guild with a very good size front line that are also good.
@@Psikick4because u cant escape on staff bow?
this is sick
Why is Kanon so small in the thumbnail and shroud and stoopzz sooooo HUUUUGE!?!?
more clicks when people see shrouds face on anything. i only clicked cuz i saw shroud
Kanon can you make a build guide? There's not a single decent guide out there yet.
Got you
@@KanonXOohhhhhh lets goo, yeah ive not idea what to build on my staff dagger
@@KanonXO What build were you using during this gvg?
What's the reward for doing this? Why nobody mentioning?
This stone give stats
Passive buff (stats) along with a personal world boss you can fight daily.
that looked fun wish i could be apart of something like that
The whole numbers thing is going to make calling so much easier than in bdo lmfao.
dont get how you got so much dmg with those skills, im running sword and gs and my skills do 0 dmg XD
what server they play?
Kazar
I'm pretty sure they are on Cringezar
Are all Riftstone Zones that small and range-unfriendly? No wonder why everyone is playing Tanks and Melee.
"Holding on top, holding on top, top looks good" proceeds to jump down
Communications were a bit much, couldn't you just split team leads into a main call with the shotcaller and teams with their respective leads in another call (i.e. breakout rooms like with Zoom)? Likewise, instead of repeating himself so much three-way communication would be easier (when addressing specific leads) and less chaotic.
Other than that the game looks pretty hype.
EXACTLY!!! Main shotcaller should only be for over all strategy (2 team split, one goes point 4 while the other goes 7, etc.) and not second by second play
@@kabagocan That's always lost to second by second calling, so results don't lie Ig
bro you looked stressed what’s going on
the call outs in this comms is clear, precise and imma look forward for the Siege Comms soon.
i like it even if its just 50 souls on board.
Don't mind the casual people who are commenting that your voice is annoying mr.shotcaller.
People who are just too casual to fully enjoy the game is really going to ruin others fun because they cant have fun on their own LMAO.
I bet they won't even pass the PVP trial or just dissappear like a bubble since no one will remember them at all.
BEST STREAMER OF THRONE & LIBERTY. ONLY STREAMER I RECOMMEND TO WATCH FOR THIS GAME
tanks being this op for this long doesnt bring me confidence for balance changes
they already confirmed its getting nerfed
Not bad took them only atleast 13 months kekW
Ya I can’t, 30 secs I’m and the shot caller is annoying af
The pvp is cool..but yearh the guy talking...i wouldnt mind if he suddenly lost his internet connection...
i hope healing is strong i'm keen to be a healer debuffer in big battles like this
Congratz
The main shot caller is the voice of our mmo generation.
51 and 53 are odd numbers not even
One Minute in and my ears bleeding
you have no friends, sorry to hear that
You aren't fit. This was insane good calling
@@Scorptice never Said the calls werent good its Just the voice itself
@@ajjames1960 The people you met online aren't "friends" go outside little buddy instead of commenting the same thing over and over.
@@JR-wf5kg sad to say you never talk to people online, sorry if that bothers you. if you need help, you can call for a psychiatrist to help you with your social anxiety about other people.
i know you are having a hard time, i know why you are solo. you need friends lol
I fw this
Looks fun! Don't think I'll fall for a P2W again though after Lost Ark
Lineage 2 pvp is back
People in comments complaining that either their guild is too casual to be able to do this type of content, or that they don't want a guild tryhard like this one as it will feel like a job. Good thing you can create or choose which type of guild u go to am I right?
Isn't this a crucial part of the game?
@@xorphz GvG? Not sure. But if it is doubt many will actually put work into it. And honestly it shouldn't be a crucial part.
@@chobitsotaku5613 This game's endgame is all about pvping, you don't do anything else. No PvE or anything as for as we know so...
@@MrWestSky Thats not true xd u also got the new tier 3 dungeons and the challenge dungeons
@@MrWestSky Well PvP is fine, but GvG needs a lot more coordination and communication, which is more of a pain to manage and participate in. So I'm okay with PvP being crucial.
people complaining about the shotcaller lmao He and his team did amazing. If you dislike this, just stay casual and chill.
Nah, he's just a bad shotcaller. If you need to be constantly yelling, either your team has no idea what they are doing or you don't know how to comunicate/properly set up comms - i.e breakout rooms, discord stage+squad channels, etc. Imagine if someone on your team yelled like this in a League fo Legends/Dota competitive match, everyone would mute you.
Sounds like someone commenting football match lmao.
Imagine being this sweaty in a game without real life rewards.
@@kabagocan Comming the same shotcall several times is pretty common in high level play, especially when you either have a lot of people listening to your calls (like here 50+ ppl, in top BDO guilds the shotcalling style was quite similar to this) or when the games tend to be more chaotic and a lot of stuff is happening (apex legends for example).
You can't really compare this type of shotcalling to your average league game you play with your friends. In games like this you want to make sure as a shotcaller that all of the 50 people heard your call and don't act on their own. If 20 of those people push just a bit too far, because they thought your call from 10 seconds ago wasn't relevant anymore, then it might be a lost fight. If you repeat the comm until you comm something else, then it's very obvious to all 50 players what the current plan is.
With large player numbers like this, the most important factor is that everyone listens to the calls, whether those are good or bad calls.
He never called to overcommit, his timing for push calls wasn't bad at all, so I'd say he's quite a good shotcaller. I'd also say most people won't be able to do anything close to his level of shotcalling (myself included, I would suck at this). It's also a lot of pressure on the shotcaller, if the shotcaller fucks up, everyone dies, if any individual player fucks up, most likely they are the only one dying. If you're indecisive as a shotcaller that can also result in your group getting wiped. Lots of factors, overall he did a good job.
Hello Twtich! :)
Very good calls, who was a shotcaller please?
party leaders calling, war leader calls. great to watch.
signs on a head of party leaders ++
there are biggest whales than shroud?
Soon(tm)
How much $ was it
A lot haha
Had to watch this on mute; Jesus Christ.
he's good at shot calling.. that voice tho
@@dringled7046people who never have been in a competitive guild and don't understand the necessaries to compete and win game mode like this. And then cry about it 😂
@@dan_963_ huh? I think his voice is annoying that's all
you play solo right? no wonder lol
you have no friends, sorry to hear that
@@dan_963_ where is the whining ? he complimented the shot calling...saying that the shotcallers voice is fucking annoying..has nothing to do with his ability to lead.
Wow that is one guild. Wish I could get in one like that. Only get to play a couple hours a week so I'm pretty low in these people's eyes
Idk man I just cant stand having some dude scream in my ear every 5 seconds what I need to be doing, just let me be
you’ve never played a wvw mmo if this bothers you .. if your not interested in wvw PvP why comment? no one was dying to know that you couldn’t 😂
These losers need to go back to Deadlock.
All of you being the most broken class in the game is cringe lol
Still love the content tho
7:12 ... We are sending an assassin .. so fun
the coms is stupidd annoying
you have no friends, sorry to hear that
@@ajjames1960 bot
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that guy talks for nothing
Instant leave this guild, the guy is too annoying.
you have no friends, sorry to hear that
No one cares
Bdo killer
There's nothing to kill
lol
Why is everyone crying in the comments??? If u don't have time for it thats fine, why shame others?
Well if they are getting thumb ups maybe that means they aren't crying and they are kinda right in that case ?
@@lainstructure how is shaming others for how they wanna play a game right? Different people enjoy different kinds of stuff that's it
Is he any good though? he just keeps dying lol
its a tank lol shielder? what should u do then? stay at the back, he is like a decoy so enemies can waste their skill for him. are you new to this kind of mechanics lol tffffffff
bro lol
yikes
People like this guy talking is why I quit large scale PVP. Turned it into a job... I aint got the time.
Yeah and they exist in every mmorpg game too.
Not his fault if he have job and can play the game like another job at the same time. It is a 'you' problem. Stay casual.
That’s not a problem. If the game doesn’t fit in your life style move on. I don’t know how much time you need for an event like this but I guess it’s not a sidejob.
It’s the difference between being competitive and not. So if you enjoy GvG where you go and die but say “well we had fun” then stay casual.
@@mouseinatrap1120 xD don't poo your pants
What a shitty game Mickey Mouse game lineage 2 after so many years still better from that joke I better go play Mickey Mouse world 😂
Can we please make it so console player can move the HUD around!!
not a thing in any mmo that has ever come to console
It needs to be. We unlock the options at level 1 but we sit can't move the HUD around.
Too noisy, pre puberty voice
hes doing a good job lol give him some credit
be better
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you can spend 10000 dollars and youll not be much better of than if you payed 0 dollars...not how it works ingame dude :)
What’s their guild called? The swipers?
Cringe and Liberty
you have no friends, sorry to hear that
who spent the most money?
If someone was screaming in my ear like this the whole guild will get a vote to kick 😂 its not that serious
Holy ear cancer batman
ah yes. the sea of virgins. this sounds so nerdy its insane. arena pvp is a far superior experience
Doesnt look fun at all.
i really hate how you reepeat yourself 100 times like we get it man
That soyboy voice though...KEKW
games TRASHdo NOT bye this. u wanna play WAIT 2 days
this anoying guy makes the member cant focus , too noisy