Unfortunately our siege was against epherium or whatever in chernobog. We had the whole left side of the castle locked down, and then a guild turned on us and allied with epherium and said, "If we can't have the thrown, nobody can" true game of thrones stuff.
is that what happened??? I was there with you. I read on reddit that one of our golems that was smashing the wall was the one that betrayed us or something, that they had an epherium alt take control of the golem.
I'm in epherium and even i hate us. Very scummy people. If i had to fight against us i would quit cause all we do is out number people. It's getting old and boring.
That's the way it's always been in MMOs, bro. The top guild/players reap the most. It's even like that in MMO media. Look at SAO with its Monument of Swordsmen; a floor boss can take more than 40+ people to clear it, yet only the 7 party leaders get etched into history on the Monument.
yes, that is so true. It should be server vs server and the guilts of each server work together and lead all non-guild players like e.g. using a commander tag which everyone on the map can see.
@@nbln8684 I personally think they should do 2 servers vs 2 servers, instead of getting someone to lead 26k people, make it 52K. If they all could be on a discord call would be great too.
i used to like you kanon. but instead of playing fairly do doing same tricks which you accuse others doing. making zerg for castle. just a week ago you complained about zergs and sieges in your podcast/interview with peon. and yet you creating alliances which goes against your words. actions speaks louder than words. unsubbed. good luck
Yeah honestly cringe "Don't kill these guys" "why are they killing these guys" pretty sure party markers can't be seen by other alliances and they cried why these people killed them lmao. Uncoordinated af.
We had four defending guilds and a small guild of 20 outside the walls defending with us. It was crazy. The ‘main’ attacking force was 3.5 guilds. On top of the rest of the server, it was tough. If we didn’t have rain, we’d have lost.
This game would be nice pending normalize gear in PvP and class balance. Zerging on top of gear disparity and classes imbalances makes this game losing popularity fast.
I`m glad you guys didn't get affected by the wall exploit in my server we weren't so lucky :( I wish people brought more visibility to this matter, our castle was ruined by this... Finding hard to keep motivation now.
Our server is super duper wholesome overall. A few bad eggs but overall a super positive Experience. We managed to dominate the siege event and keep the castle and no one was whining super loud but just ggs all around
All I know Is I'm soooooo sick of getting yelled at from Guilds for attacking "Our Alliances" Like how bout we just stop doing sketchy shit and play the game like It was meant to be played.
Good to know that siege being a slideshow isn't only a me issue. I was debating on looking in to new ISPs but doesn't seem like it would make a difference.
this event sucked from a non zerg pov, pvp as always is a blast but this was just a bad idea, no idea whos who, and everyone fighting each other rather than the doing the obj. Sad that this will be how its remembered from anyone who wasnt in a zerg.
thats the nature of the game and mode, there is plenty of smaller scale content daily you can do this is literally twice a month and very unique, if you want to participate in a different fashion then maybe let that motivate you to join a guild that suits your goal for the game and what you want out of content
It will be remembered on my server as "an alliance that plays for RMT now secured everything on the server to make their cash" :D They got conflict bosses, they got castle(tax, which they increased immediatelly after siege was over), they do whatever the fk they want and no one to stop them. Suddenly playing this game became a little less interesting. Hell, even peace zone bosses are blocked by eclipse in dungeons :D Having everyone other than alliance as redsomething was imo a bad design from developers. Edit after watching: Your siege was really awesome compared to mine :D Absolute clutch victory!
Crimson was fun, but the loss feels much more bitter than it should because there were 2 critical mistakes that were made that could have easily been avoided that would have seized us the throne
I was in this squad! You didn't see it from your pov but I slept them outside of the gate we were trying to close which gave us a chance to push them and close it
we were outside and man was put siege different. we did hold the throne for a few but we did full loot the area so i consider it a dub. however putside we were met with flex teams and it was on as gs sns i had 52 kills
Am i the only one who has never given a rats ass about titles from mega grouping? i feel like arena titles and things that show individual skill are so much more prestigious. I garuntee there are some apes with that title after sieges that happend on servers.
I was a red guy... and this was crap with the entire server just farming kills outside the walls. Instead of actually pushing in. We had 0 idea who the defenders were from the rest of the server.
Have you heard anything in regards to the scripting issues? Magna is absolutely infested with scripters to the point where its killing the motivation to play.
It was awful on my server. Laggy , glitchy mess. Everyone in my guild experienced it. There needs to be some sort of developer control over the event somehow also to keep things balanced. Each guild or alliance should have their own color too. Shit was a joke honestly
They need to make differentiating between actual guild defenders and other just non alliance guilds. It’s was impossible to tell who was attacking and who was defending
@ not at all. But have a visual difference available between defenders, allies, and other guilds. I feel like in my server people were straight up killing each other rather than sieging the castle cuz they didn’t know who was who
@@zachmortimer bro that's only a wb, how do you imagine a 30+ guulds going against a 4 guild in siege. in wb only few guilds participate like 4-8 at most
The entire thing was horribly designed and flat out stupid. I will not be attending them unless they do something to improve it. Massive waste of my time which is extremely annoying.
our whole siege got ruined because of some insider and horrible management by the top guilds who had the throne, giant waste of time and huge upset by just ONE guy
this looks so boring, having a mega alliance on xeroth when there was no competition already is wild. Siege actually looks dead on here compared to other servers
2:25 bro never did sieges in BDO or Archeage?!?! This is on a whole other level though it was nuts but also Amazon ruined it with their garbage servers :(
wait so what people said about you guys paying off other alliances is true LOL crazy that you just laugh and try to play it off.. it's crazy this event is easy as fuck to defend why do you need a mega alliance
@@OREOARMYCLAN well it was our whole alliance that was added so it was like 4 more guilds but yes still heavily outnumbered. Plus having "allies" that are red adds doubt to everyone your attacking which can be heavily used by attackers since all they have to do is just hit red and not worry
@@OREOARMYCLAN Have you literally even played the gamemode? My alliance literally washed the attackers they couldn't even touch the throne.. a guild of whales with multiple arch weapons do not need to create a mega alliance to win and it's no wonder their castle siege looks dead af compared to ours they killed their server
@ yes I have and we won our siege with good team coordination, but dude they literally had floods of enemies storming in. Idc what anyone says you only have so many flash waves and tornados to stop a wave of enemies coming in for a minute straight. I doubt your server was more live than this one but ok bud.
There were probably defenders as well. The issue is all the colors were botched so you couldn’t tell who was who. Made it impossible to get anything done.
Why do they say don’t kill the dude marked on the other team coming through sewers. I don’t understand why they let the enemy stay alive for what reason.
This ran terribly on console tbh for a game that emphasizes large scale PvP it’s not optimized for it at all on console and tbh shouldn’t have been released on it lol doesn’t seem like it was stress tested at all. You can’t see the field because you have to run the player count on low so you don’t crash but all you can see is your alliance for one which sucks since you can’t analyze the field. The targeting controls are nonexistent too, hopefully console gets an even playing field soon or that player base with def dip to the next game sooner than later. No cross progression so if you started on console and want to you your pc it’s a wrap unless you want to completely start over. That being said I still had fun with my alliance and was still able to get double digit kills but def couldn’t do my best seeing as how I couldn’t see 90% of enemies in time.
That just happends when there is a Guild who leaves no Space for other Guilds to Compete. So they gettin all the Loot because there more and pay more and are more online so Guilds leaving the Server. 50% of all Servers are already Dead. Sadly this will be the Future for this game in Global
Got a top 10 guild on Amos im playing on console from Australia and the game is completely unplayable for me in large scale. Lagg fest with more than a couple hundred on screen legit got dash borded probably 10 times in the tax delivery today
mega alliance lol, nweiz you could have just told your "extra ally" to just roam outside the city and don't come inside so you can kill everyone who comes in the castle. they can thin the zerg trying to push and less confusing for you to defend
But if thy dont change pvp throne and Liberty will die out fast because everyone is on the server is already talking about they hate how the cc's pop off back to back like that it should have been if u stun u can't knock a person down too also if the stun drop the person should be resistance too cc if they do not add these things throne and Liberty will die..😅
@@ezeejackster Lol... even Guild Wars 2 has a better PVP system than this... The game will die exactly because everything in this game is designed to lick the whales asses and make everyone life hell who plays in a low number guild with no alliance, plays casual, or solo and the list goes on.... and without the casuals, low number guilds the game will be emptied in like 3-4 months , because 80% of the population are the people these guilds f around non-stop in this game because everything is designed in their favor...
Unfortunately our siege was against epherium or whatever in chernobog. We had the whole left side of the castle locked down, and then a guild turned on us and allied with epherium and said, "If we can't have the thrown, nobody can" true game of thrones stuff.
is that what happened??? I was there with you. I read on reddit that one of our golems that was smashing the wall was the one that betrayed us or something, that they had an epherium alt take control of the golem.
bro i was there as well eph man that guild
Who said this?
@@Toechiiii I heard the eprium alt golem thing from reddit, the guild betrayal I havent heard about
I'm in epherium and even i hate us. Very scummy people. If i had to fight against us i would quit cause all we do is out number people. It's getting old and boring.
Title for the guild when it is alliance efforts that win the castle is stupid from game designers.
True, it should be for all alliance. And also Title for people who attacked on first siege.
That’s by design, so alliance can turn on each other eventually. That throne is meant to be taken from within.
Title is called “The First Legion” but doesn’t go to the whole legion that defended🤣
Because you guys are not number 1.. the number 1 guild should get it lol
That's the way it's always been in MMOs, bro. The top guild/players reap the most.
It's even like that in MMO media. Look at SAO with its Monument of Swordsmen; a floor boss can take more than 40+ people to clear it, yet only the 7 party leaders get etched into history on the Monument.
I was in that siege and I have to say. Everything this game does in terms of pvp/mass pvp , guild wars 2 just simply does it much better.
yes, that is so true. It should be server vs server and the guilts of each server work together and lead all non-guild players like e.g. using a commander tag which everyone on the map can see.
@@nbln8684 I personally think they should do 2 servers vs 2 servers, instead of getting someone to lead 26k people, make it 52K. If they all could be on a discord call would be great too.
unfortunately gw2 is dogshit which is why nobody plays it so it is what it is
And gw2 is terrible in comparison to warhammer online, which everyone said was a failure so no one takes any of the great ideas from it
@@paradopx8618 who talked about Warhammer online ???
i used to like you kanon. but instead of playing fairly do doing same tricks which you accuse others doing. making zerg for castle. just a week ago you complained about zergs and sieges in your podcast/interview with peon. and yet you creating alliances which goes against your words. actions speaks louder than words. unsubbed. good luck
Dang bro I thought you were chill, but you’re using multiple alliances to defend?
Yeah honestly cringe "Don't kill these guys" "why are they killing these guys" pretty sure party markers can't be seen by other alliances and they cried why these people killed them lmao. Uncoordinated af.
I come from planetside, so zergs are always uncoordinated anyway. We farm em. This game is just less skill.
Don't hit that reds and that reds that's our allies, LOL.
in our server the top 20 guilds were all allied with each other. wtf is this bs lmaoo
lmaoo then i bet they all got 3 lucent each
wtfff what server is this? hahahah
@@LummoMaxno only the main guild gets the loot lol
@@krzy_hoodz the lucent is split between the guilds alliance that won the throne.
We had four defending guilds and a small guild of 20 outside the walls defending with us. It was crazy. The ‘main’ attacking force was 3.5 guilds. On top of the rest of the server, it was tough. If we didn’t have rain, we’d have lost.
This game would be nice pending normalize gear in PvP and class balance. Zerging on top of gear disparity and classes imbalances makes this game losing popularity fast.
very important comment here.
I`m glad you guys didn't get affected by the wall exploit in my server we weren't so lucky :( I wish people brought more visibility to this matter, our castle was ruined by this... Finding hard to keep motivation now.
We told our whole alliance(rent free) that we would not use the exploit at all
Our server is super duper wholesome overall. A few bad eggs but overall a super positive Experience. We managed to dominate the siege event and keep the castle and no one was whining super loud but just ggs all around
Same! Was awesome
They should just end with alliances. Stupid shit to stall server's balance.
All I know Is I'm soooooo sick of getting yelled at from Guilds for attacking "Our Alliances"
Like how bout we just stop doing sketchy shit and play the game like It was meant to be played.
Good to know that siege being a slideshow isn't only a me issue. I was debating on looking in to new ISPs but doesn't seem like it would make a difference.
this event sucked from a non zerg pov, pvp as always is a blast but this was just a bad idea, no idea whos who, and everyone fighting each other rather than the doing the obj. Sad that this will be how its remembered from anyone who wasnt in a zerg.
thats the nature of the game and mode, there is plenty of smaller scale content daily you can do this is literally twice a month and very unique, if you want to participate in a different fashion then maybe let that motivate you to join a guild that suits your goal for the game and what you want out of content
Dude SONII is a gangster! Great video Kanon!
Hey great video! can you share your Large scale PvP build? i loved your sns/gs arena build guide and would love to see this one
came down to the wire, that was awesome!
How do you have more than 3 loadout?
Im glad that full arch boss gameplay looks very similar to mine in terms of up time in a ball
I’m not gonna be able to sell my queen bell staff until close to the next siege huh????
Great vod ! Does sonii has a yt channel i would love to watch his pov as i was so lost during the siege playing gs/dagger
It will be remembered on my server as "an alliance that plays for RMT now secured everything on the server to make their cash" :D They got conflict bosses, they got castle(tax, which they increased immediatelly after siege was over), they do whatever the fk they want and no one to stop them. Suddenly playing this game became a little less interesting. Hell, even peace zone bosses are blocked by eclipse in dungeons :D
Having everyone other than alliance as redsomething was imo a bad design from developers.
Edit after watching: Your siege was really awesome compared to mine :D Absolute clutch victory!
there are portals outside of dungeons like Junobote(when there is no rain and doors closed) to tp directly to boss peace portals
@@deniss745 not yet on our server
Crimson was fun, but the loss feels much more bitter than it should because there were 2 critical mistakes that were made that could have easily been avoided that would have seized us the throne
I was in this squad! You didn't see it from your pov but I slept them outside of the gate we were trying to close which gave us a chance to push them and close it
bro that was a huge sleep
What an insane experience! Unforgettable!
I played yesterday and everyone was red for me….
Yeah for anyone that wasnt in a large alliance, its a horrible experience
we were outside and man was put siege different. we did hold the throne for a few but we did full loot the area so i consider it a dub. however putside we were met with flex teams and it was on as gs sns i had 52 kills
The next step they need to implement server versus server battles where all guilds in the server have to work together to achieve the battle
With a defending scenario an attacking
It‘s already confirmed/ semi confirmed that there will be server vs server sieges
"its not even our alliance" imagine saying that
I was Kanon's first kill on this siege with a shield above my head lol
LOOOOLLLL
Am i the only one who has never given a rats ass about titles from mega grouping? i feel like arena titles and things that show individual skill are so much more prestigious. I garuntee there are some apes with that title after sieges that happend on servers.
100% facts
I was Fortunate enough to be on the same server but unfortunate to be in the alliance against you. Lmao 😂 GGs brother!
Same lol
Watching siege seemed more enjoyable than doing it. Hopefully it doesnt go downhill now that the new pvp content is 'done' for awhile.
Idk was fun attacking on our server
Its fun when you are in an alliance or large guild. If youre not then.. not very fun tbh
I was a red guy... and this was crap with the entire server just farming kills outside the walls. Instead of actually pushing in.
We had 0 idea who the defenders were from the rest of the server.
The exploits that Amazon advertised instead of just fixing really ruined our Siege on Crimson.
We need guides to improve performance, in my case the experience was very bad due to the lag
in EU they got someone else running towards the throne and promoted that person to GM and took it.
they did that too here, you can see the last person touching the throne from Onion Gang is not their original guild leader
on kazar we had a guy hacking and take thronw on his own
how much of those 682509 lucent did you get ?
Wondering the same
They took 10% and (700ish per person) and gave the rest to alliance (2.4k per person)
@@cocodoingstuff4554 ty!
What CPU are you running?
Have you heard anything in regards to the scripting issues? Magna is absolutely infested with scripters to the point where its killing the motivation to play.
can u share your build and skills for siege ?
Kanon what's ur skill loadout for castle siege
It was awful on my server. Laggy , glitchy mess. Everyone in my guild experienced it. There needs to be some sort of developer control over the event somehow also to keep things balanced. Each guild or alliance should have their own color too. Shit was a joke honestly
*Shakes head in Stone Mist Castle*
They need to make differentiating between actual guild defenders and other just non alliance guilds. It’s was impossible to tell who was attacking and who was defending
really? you expect a 4 guild alliance to defend against the whole server? bro that is just completely impossible
@@kaylkaylkaylyti mean....we did it on sanctum so I dunno about impossible.
@ not at all. But have a visual difference available between defenders, allies, and other guilds. I feel like in my server people were straight up killing each other rather than sieging the castle cuz they didn’t know who was who
@@zachmortimer bro that's only a wb, how do you imagine a 30+ guulds going against a 4 guild in siege. in wb only few guilds participate like 4-8 at most
@@kaylkaylkaylyt no it's not a world boss I am referencing castle siege.
The entire thing was horribly designed and flat out stupid. I will not be attending them unless they do something to improve it. Massive waste of my time which is extremely annoying.
You gonna pay out your boys this time? Or bail again?
our whole siege got ruined because of some insider and horrible management by the top guilds who had the throne, giant waste of time and huge upset by just ONE guy
Member from ''Don't Attack'' here, was awesome helping you guys win, we had a BLAST. Definitely super excited for future fights!
where all the people at?
GG to all the casual players. Horrible experience for them.
Eph won both our sieges with 2 1/2 guilds on each server no way people using more than 3 allies LMFAO
this looks so boring, having a mega alliance on xeroth when there was no competition already is wild. Siege actually looks dead on here compared to other servers
this is ridiculous that allies are red as enemy is.
2:25 bro never did sieges in BDO or Archeage?!?! This is on a whole other level though it was nuts but also Amazon ruined it with their garbage servers :(
good video! lets go
Intense af
wait so what people said about you guys paying off other alliances is true LOL crazy that you just laugh and try to play it off.. it's crazy this event is easy as fuck to defend why do you need a mega alliance
With lucent btw not real moola it's a fair deal you help defend you get to use the pillage points for some moola
Bruh it’s a 4 guild alliance against the entire server lol. Like even if they got 1 more guild into the alliance they were still heavily outnumbered
@@OREOARMYCLAN well it was our whole alliance that was added so it was like 4 more guilds but yes still heavily outnumbered. Plus having "allies" that are red adds doubt to everyone your attacking which can be heavily used by attackers since all they have to do is just hit red and not worry
@@OREOARMYCLAN Have you literally even played the gamemode? My alliance literally washed the attackers they couldn't even touch the throne.. a guild of whales with multiple arch weapons do not need to create a mega alliance to win and it's no wonder their castle siege looks dead af compared to ours they killed their server
@ yes I have and we won our siege with good team coordination, but dude they literally had floods of enemies storming in. Idc what anyone says you only have so many flash waves and tornados to stop a wave of enemies coming in for a minute straight. I doubt your server was more live than this one but ok bud.
Our siege had 0 defenders so was just attackers vs attackers was weird😂
There were probably defenders as well. The issue is all the colors were botched so you couldn’t tell who was who. Made it impossible to get anything done.
Why do they say don’t kill the dude marked on the other team coming through sewers.
I don’t understand why they let the enemy stay alive for what reason.
They are allies, but the slot for ally guilds is only 3 so they can’t have all friendly guilds in that tab
@ oh I see thx. This is by far the hardest pvp I’ve ever had to try learn.
18k x2 , bro his HP was not even 20k , have mercy T_T
Throne And Stuns
10/10 would die for Tankge again
There was alot of bad blood on every server bro😂 its fcking siege, feelings got HURTTTT
This ran terribly on console tbh for a game that emphasizes large scale PvP it’s not optimized for it at all on console and tbh shouldn’t have been released on it lol doesn’t seem like it was stress tested at all. You can’t see the field because you have to run the player count on low so you don’t crash but all you can see is your alliance for one which sucks since you can’t analyze the field. The targeting controls are nonexistent too, hopefully console gets an even playing field soon or that player base with def dip to the next game sooner than later. No cross progression so if you started on console and want to you your pc it’s a wrap unless you want to completely start over. That being said I still had fun with my alliance and was still able to get double digit kills but def couldn’t do my best seeing as how I couldn’t see 90% of enemies in time.
11:12 Allys?... how
Anyways, back to better games!
fuckiing gg man im so happy u guys won ur siege omg, on our server we lost by 2 sec hahah
Why do you guys only have like 1/10 of the ppl than our server on the Siege event?
Whales killed the vame
That just happends when there is a Guild who leaves no Space for other Guilds to Compete. So they gettin all the Loot because there more and pay more and are more online so Guilds leaving the Server. 50% of all Servers are already Dead. Sadly this will be the Future for this game in Global
It looks like he limited the amount of players on the screen in the game settings. Helps with fps ;)
Tank hiting 18k X2 this game is insane xD first that broken game ever 🤣
Got a top 10 guild on Amos im playing on console from Australia and the game is completely unplayable for me in large scale.
Lagg fest with more than a couple hundred on screen legit got dash borded probably 10 times in the tax delivery today
its a pitty i really like the game its just i don't think i can actually play it 😫
Me realizing how much friendly fire was done in the making of this video 😂 ggs
What item build did you use for this siege?
change guild name to bombge or bowge
Allies should have some other color besides red.
They changed it like this to make zerging hard. Green is alliance.
WHAT Coming
Umm New world Super Bowl 🎉
If at least 10sec more u guys gonna lose it.
We won on first siege on Oath!
We won ours! The First Legion title is on the way.
amazing experience LOL good one. GG= gay game.
Everyone in NA, just wants to run away from epherium to dodge PvP, why are you even calling yourself a pvp guild ???
The dumbest PvP content ever.. everybody was an enemy (red).. dying in 2 sec.
gs/sns broken class
This looks so bad :D
mega alliance lol, nweiz you could have just told your "extra ally" to just roam outside the city and don't come inside so you can kill everyone who comes in the castle. they can thin the zerg trying to push and less confusing for you to defend
Lame
But if thy dont change pvp throne and Liberty will die out fast because everyone is on the server is already talking about they hate how the cc's pop off back to back like that it should have been if u stun u can't knock a person down too also if the stun drop the person should be resistance too cc if they do not add these things throne and Liberty will die..😅
ESO has it the best once you receive any form of cc you are immune to any other cc for 10 seconds
A couple hundred hardcore player vs casuals.
SnS/GS is so OP.
sns/gs gets slapped in large scale.
@@therealexpletive This man is correct. I wish I ran a range build like wand/longbow or something
Game will be dead within a month. Just be whales and new player cycling in
why do you care so much ? the game will dead like this like that hate ? or jealous 🤣
Even if that’s the case, nothing else on the market will replace this experience that thousands of players had yesterday.
But you probably set here watching the whole video. Lmao
@@ezeejackster Lol... even Guild Wars 2 has a better PVP system than this... The game will die exactly because everything in this game is designed to lick the whales asses and make everyone life hell who plays in a low number guild with no alliance, plays casual, or solo and the list goes on.... and without the casuals, low number guilds the game will be emptied in like 3-4 months , because 80% of the population are the people these guilds f around non-stop in this game because everything is designed in their favor...
@@UmbraWeiss"even guildwars 2" like its some trash game lol. GW2 bests any mmo by far.
Magna had like 5x as many players in the siege, my computer almost blew up, this looks like a 1v1 guild skirmish in comparison
gz canon 12 guild ally vs 4 , insane
Ngl u guys almost losing that is kind of sad lmao
Slideshow even on a streamer top end rig... AOC waiting room.
Already been 5 years and they have one zone, gonna be a long time in that room
"Are these guys friendly?" lmao nice zerg fights, at least our server alliances fit into 4 guilds
Check out what a 4 guild alliance can do vs 12. FTP/Swipe 4 v12... no need for this.
first pog
lol soo much copium for this trash of a game 😂
it just sucks for players not in an alliance. The PvE gets stale pretty quick tbh.