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@@EthHawke94 It's said to be a result of that but it's never said why exactly it works. I believe it's abyssal in nature given their similarities, but that has yet to be confirmed or disproven.
@@iamsyncxi also have theory abbout the fall of Fatui ,i thing every body forgot that Diluc have some beef with Fatui ,he know that Fatui Harbinger responseble for his Father death so i thing when we fight all Fatui Harbinger Diluc will help us to defeat them and also don't forget Childe parent is taking hostage by rooster and when childe know this he will attack rooster and make him traitor to Fatui and we must save him
what fatui is going to do is not fight celstia themselves, they know that they can't fight celestia in any way even if they have all gnosis but what if the purpose of those gnosis is something grand like awakening of dragon king (which will happen for sure) In nahida quest we know dendro dragon say kill me which will awake the dendro king sooner and mankind will suffer after. So what I think is fatuis is gonna use those gnosia to make dragon king realize other sovereigns are dead and he will awake then
I also feel like the Abyss Order is just biding their time for the Fatui to fail and to distract Celestia while they themselves have been building up their forces and plan from the sidelines. Honestly, the Abyss Order has the highest chance of actually overthrowing Celestia, since they alone seemingly have the power to escape or hide their fate. It always seemed odd how the Abyss Order and Fatui have pretty much never interacted with each other in the slightest in the entire game so far, with only small allusions being made like how Piero used to send Scaramouche to the Abyss. My guess is that while the Fatui will be the primary villains for much of the game, we learn more about the Abyss Order's true goals with Dainsleif from the sidelines, and as a result the Traveler is the only one who is aware of what the true threat is, but it's too late. Traveler will be occupied with stopping the Tsaritsa and the Fatui from incurring the wrath of Celestia and setting Teyvat ablaze, and when the dust settles and the Fatui are halted or crippled, the Abyss Order finally unveil their plan that they have been working on completely unhindered. They might capture all 7 gnoses from the Tsaritsa or destroy them, and start the Loom of Fate operation, which forces all of the Fatui and the Traveler to work together to stop them by going to where everything started in Khaenri'ah
Khaenriah is after Snezhnaya, maybe we will escape underneath Teyvat to survive Snezhnaya's/Teyvat's apocalypse and search for a way to beat Celestia in Khaenriah
Do you really not think that the Fatui don't know about the Abyss Order or their plans? Thats quite unlikely, because the Fatui seem to be knowledgable in all sorts of things (as required for a rebellion against the divine), so them just not expecting the Abyss Order to make a move would be very stupid. Also, the Abyss is currently just a side-grade enemy, not comparable to the Fatui. They are inferior in literally every aspect, they don't cause nearly as much problem for us as the Harbingers for example. You could argue that its because of our sibling, but truthfully they weren't shown to be that dangerous as of yet.
...We really need more Istaroth lore by this point. She was the only one from the shades who helped Enkanomiya, Inazuma and probably other places. ...And also "ruled over" Mondstadt with Barbatos at some point...If only Venti's second character quest will have some new information. -_-
Teyvat would suffer the consequences anyway. The Tsaritsa isn't exactly benevolent and rebelling for the good of people. She's not being any better and would be Celestia V2.0
It’s known that both the abyss order and the Tsaritsa are both trying to change fate, but they are trying to do this via totally different means. In the case of the abyss order, they want to destroy Celestia. In the case of the Tsaritsa, I believe that she may be collecting the gnosis’ to possibly summon Istaroth and possibly change fate by changing the past.
If the Fatui rebellion happens when we arrive at Snezhnaya, it'll most likely fail, simply because after that, we still have to traverse through khaenri'ah (And probably Celestia after that). The climax of the story will not happen with the game having at the bare minimum one extra year of story to be released after.
What if maybe the Tsaritsa and Fatui isn’t gonna use the gnoses as power ups Instead, maybe they’re using the gnoses to create or awaken an entity that they can use to fight and defeat celestia and maybe the abyss too by combining the power of the gnoses together
Why would traveler be equal to the primordial one ? Honestly he seems pretty weak , he got absolutely demolished by heavenly principles at full power and that’s with the help of his sister, gets wrecked by ei also, without the power of friendship and plot armor. They really give traveler no feats to show how powerful they really are
@@vchellos2249You could also look at it the other way. The Traveler and their sibling are likely beyond the heavenly principles ability to kill at their full power, hence why they were simply teleported and not outright killed by the unknown God and then sent in their HIGHLY nerfed forms down to teyvat.
fun fact in the winter night Lazzo trailer a chess game is being played a famous one Deep Blue vs Kasparov in the game these are instead represented by Celestia vs Humanity. When Signora got taken ( the pawn ) Deep Blue (Celestia) is losing the chess game with 1 / 10 according to the most modern chess computer. Previously to that move Deep Blue wildly believed as (Celestia) was instead winning the match with 10 / 1. Other possible moves was Zhongli the rook, taking out Signora before in Liyue, or Venti the Queen taking out Scaramouche in the Mondstadt both have sufficient power as archons to do this. Neither of these moves were made on the board, and both were possible in the story. Ventis hair did not light up fighting Signora meaning he faked resisting her taking his Gnosis this in turn made Signora overconfident that she could travel to Inazuma. This means that the archons might be aware of the future and actively playing there cards to make it happen. The rules in Inazuma state the loser of a battle must die, If Signora was not intentionally put there Ei instead would have to kill the traveler with the muso hisotachi. This means Miko intentionally played her cards to make sure Signora was there we find out Miko was behind Ayatos intervention. It also made Ei move out of plane of Euthymia and her interaction with Kazuha proved that humans still can resist the divine. This is the real reason Ei has a change of heart, all though she hides it from the traveler and everyone else. Ei is most likely the most knowledgeable archon as she was there 500 years ago trying to rescue Makoto. All though Ei cherishes her memories of her sister she may not yet be willing to give up on humanity. Zhongli seem to have signed a contract to keep Liyue out of the coming war as he sacrificed to much last time. Venti is an unknown player on the board as his history is very much hidden intentionally. Now all of the archons seem to agree upon that they need to find a way to record history, as they seem to suspect that there own memories are being tampered with. Venti writes songs and ballads of great adventures, note that fairy tales is not something Irminsul translates as dangerous therefore the history of those is NOT altered. This is most likely something Lisa also found out as she seems super keen on getting back her book. Zhongli tries to record history in the stone itself but even stone erode with time. Ei has a different solution through eternity will her Inazuma ascend to the divine plane of existing.
I assume the Fatui intend to use the gnoses to activate the Irminsul to roll back time to before the 2nd throne arrived, or possibly before the PO arrived. They're building a false descender / machine -- instead of a mere false god / machine (which they've already done). Per René, descenders can alter Teyvat's fate and change the outcome of the world formula.
Its too early to say anything. We barely know anything about the fatui. All we know is that their plans are barely into motion and they are just gathering resources from all over teyvat, the abyss and possibly the dark sea. The harbingers have done and contributed probably a lot more than what we see or read about them and their doings. The fact that they have access to literally anywhere in teyvat and conducts all kinds of research and expeditions even to the abyss is something we shouldn't underestimate. Its important to note that the chess pieces theory is also related and the fatui currently are on the winning side of the chess board as we saw in the harbingers trailer. I believe is that the traveller will be the one to stop their plans given that the traveller is the only major variable against them. One example is signora's death which wouldn't have happened if it wasnt for the traveller. The same goes for scaramouche's betrayal.
I think its actually more likely that we are a major part of the Fatui's plans, and they always planned on our arrival. Maybe we are even necessary for their plan to work, its unsure. But it is certainly weird that they don't just straight up send a deathsquad after us, even though we can thwart their plans.
Am I the only one who believe that Sandrone don't like Childe NOT because of his Story Quest A lot people assumed that but, it's certainly untrue He said that everytime he saw her she wanted to kill him, and we know he saw her atleast TWO time before his Story Quest
Now if your theory is right about the abyss, where the chosen twin goes down the abyss because of the circumstances in teyvat. It would also tie into that part "when your done exploring the world we will meet again" part and I wonder if they both will burn the world one more time, or will it only be the chosen twin?
If I had to predict what would happen is that the harbengers fail in fighting the abyss and the traveler and the seven archons go back through time to khaenriah to learn about the abyss and Celestia I would go into more death on this but if you have a mind like me then you’ll understand
I also think they will fail, eventually most of the harbingers will fall and the tsaritsa might even die by our hands if that plan to overthrow celestia might risk the whole world.
If you read the traveler lore, it might be him/she that gonna help the tsaritsa instead, since in the traveler description, the traveler will acend to the throne
@@amarait2 that why im saying traveler will help tsaritsa to overthrone calestia, traveler will acended by force, im sugesting you to read traveler caracter story
wait, where are you getting the "primordial one came from an egg" thing? we know the primordial one is an alien being who came to teyvat and defeated its original inhabitants, the dragons.
The Celestia seems pretty strong, if we go by feats that happened before the Archon War. But by all signs, it has weakened significantly. To the point of being unable to respond to events of 4.2 Archon quest. At maximum, there is an injured Primordial One, a reasonably healthy Sustainer (who is the Shade of Space, one of the Four Shining Shades), and perhaps Paimon will reveal to be on their side (and will turn out to be equal to the Sustainer). At minimum, there is a literal pheasant sitting on the throne and even the Sustainer is elsewhere. Maybe the only reason the Sustainer trapped us, is because she wants us to chase away the pheasant and sit on the throne for long enough to fix things. And in both cases, they're all out of Celestial Nails. Which were, presumably, made out of Irminsul's previous version. And so, a sufficiently prepared attack on Celestia might be enough to seize its powers and use them to fix things. Getting the Traveller involved is a good idea (they seem pretty enthusiastic about a rematch with the Sustainer). As is using numerous Harbingers and Fatui to distract the defenders long enough to take control. Tsaritsa was hatching these plans for about 500 years. No way this is some half-baked plan. The question is, where are the Gnoses in this plan? Are they used to resurrect the Third Descender and put him on the throne? Are they used to open a portal to Celestia? Are they powering a super-dreadnought that will take the troops to the floating island? Some random notes: "Fatui" means "fools", they wear masks and remains of dead gods. All of these could be means to hide from any prediction powers the Celestia might possess. Tsaritsa does not plan to get rid of all the Abyss. That is probably impossible. But it is possible to get rid of its corrupting influence. Perhaps it's as easy as fixing Fontainians' vulnerability to Primordial Seawater. Because I do not believe in knowledge that can't be thought through - it has to be a weakness in inhabitants of Teyvat.
My theory is that the first fatui is is secretly a member of the abyss who plans the fall of all the archons and the rise of the abyss to unleash hell on teyvat.
On the other hand, there is also the possibility that everything is Celestia's plan. It doesn't make sense for Celestia, who destroyed Khaenriah because of her ambitions, to reward people's ambitions. If the Gnosis caused the Archon war, why shouldn't the Visions start a new one? The Abyss cult and the Fatui may actually be Celestia's puppets. Turning the people you want to control against each other is the world's oldest strategy.
You got some things wrong about the world's creation. There are currently three "realms" in this universe: the Abyss, the light realm, and Teyvat. The Primordial One created Teyvat after defeating the Dragon Sovereigns. The Abyss was always separated from the light realm where the elements originate from, and Teyvat opposes it too. The Abyss wants to consume both of these realms, it is simply in its nature. For the same reason, the power of the Abyss is very harmful to elemental creatures like dragons, and vice-versa. The Divine Nails were cast down in order to purge the Forbidden Knowledge from the world. This isn't official, but in the game, we can find an above-ground root of the Irminsul in all the places there are Divine Nails present or were implied to be. (Chasm, Dragonspine, Tsurumi Island, Sumeru desert) It could be that when the Dragon King Nibelung (or the Second Descender) brought the Forbidden Knowledge into the world, it corrupted Irminsul and the Ley-lines, and the Primordial One had to cast down the nails in order to stabilize them and prevent the destruction of Teyvat. The Fatui have a lot at their disposal to make their rebellion succeed. They possess a lot of knowledge, as the Tsaritsa is an Archon, while Pierro himself is a royal mage of Khaenri'ah. But even among the Harbingers, there are characters like Sandrone or Dottore, who specialise in research regarding various topics (Delusions, Segment and even Ruin Machines). And we don't really know that much about the others like Pulcinella or Columbina. But even then, we just have to look at Khaenri'ah. Their "war" with the divine was unfair, yet they still managed to cause devastating losses to the enemy. As of current knowledge, the Hydro, Dendro and Electro Archons all perished in the Cataclysm, and that power was unleashed by mortals. Rhinedottir was able to create Durin artificially, probably Elynas, along with the Riftwolves and possibly other creatures. The Fatui have learned from Khaenri'ah's mistakes, and they even have the power of the divine on their side. So overall, the Fatui had the time, resources, and knowledge to successfully prepare for this rebellion. They most likely understand by now how to overcome fate. Its just that we don't know much about them or their machinations, since we are currently not at that part of the story yet. The Heavenly Principles are also quite silent as of now, even though one of the Thrones has been destroyed during the Fontaine storyline. We can't know whats up with them, but based on Neuvilette's story about Visions, and the Traveler's basic character description, it is strongly implied that the Primordial One is either gone currently or very weak.
its weird to say but i wanna share a theory about genshin with you since some of your latest content is a bit similar Im a honkai impact fan and i think that teyvat is a bubble world/bubble universe a bubble universe in honkai is a livable space inside the sea of quanta in chapter 36 to 40 we explore both the country of iron sand and the snow salt holy city il be refering to them as CoIs/Sshc both bubble universes coexist in the a bigger bubble bubble universes have their Rules wich are important to keep order inside the buuble universe or it will crumble on itself teyvat skys are fake like the moon an stars of CoIs is fake and only exsist as a too create an illusion or are tied to the rules of the buuble universe the snhc and cois needs an entity designed by the bubble universe as the sage if Teyvat is a world bubble and that the sustainer of heavenly principal is dying then someone will need to replace her and im thinking about the travler also the abbys also falls into this categgor since their is an entity called Saha or the abyys of the sea of quanta its an entity that turns the rules of the buuble universes against them to become more powerfull and steales the people desires by absorbing them and creating honkai energy wich is kinda toxic like the energy of the abbys and have similar property's and i think celestia is trying their best to kick out the abbys also the reason why celestia destroys advenced civilization is because honkai becames stringer if the civilization is advanced
I think the fatui will fail, until the Traveler joins them. At current, people don't really know the Fatui/Tsaritsa's true intentions, but I believe eventually there will be overwhelming support for them as they basically fight for the people of Teyvat and all the elemental powers. The traveler is only getting more and more friendly with the fatui. Childe was a bad guy, but the Traveler was friendly ever since his story quest. We've also had events with him and in Fontaine the Traveler seems genuinely worried about him going missing. Signora is dead, Scaramouche is basically on Traveler/Nahida's side now. We've also become friendly with the House of the Hearth, and Arlecchino has done nothing but share some info with us and express her worry for Fontaine's prophecy. She's also shown her pyro vision and is rumored to be a playable character which certainly indicates being friendly with Traveler. My guess is the Fatui obtain both the hydro and pyro gnosis' before patch 6.0 and during 6.0 they enact their plan as we are in Sneznaya. They fail, until we ultimately join forces (likely by saving Sneznaya in some way) and head to Khaenriah to get the support of the abyss sibling + hilichurls. With the traveler who has saved every single nation, all of Teyvat should be willing to back them and also with the abyss' power they can take on Celestia.
Even though upper rank 3 have the power of a god, that doesn't mean they can match an Archon with their gnosis. Dottore only faces Nahida who is the equivalent of a genius child, if Dottore faced Rukhadevata, would he win? Not a chance😅
That’s probably true. We’ve already established that Zhongli is the mightiest Archon, yet they sent Childe and Signora to negotiate. This being right after Signora “took” Venti’s gnosis by force. My guess is they know that even had they sent the top ranked Harbinger to Liyue and simply tried to take Zhongli’s gnosis through force, Zhongli would’ve simply stomped pierro into the ground. This is followed up by the revelation that The Captain was sent to Natlan instead of to Inazuma in a move that got Signora killed because she upset Ei’s puppet. Zhongli already said not all God’s are powerful. The top ranked harbingers might just be the equivalent of incredibly powerful humans compared to the archons
A lot of people are starting to take it for a fact that Capitano WILL fight the Pyro Archon, and that he WILL defeat her. Thanks to Genshin Gamer for the idea, but in reality it has no true basis. Even Capitano, who is basically confirmed at this point to be the 1st Harbinger, and has only info reinforcing his power, could still not be able to match an Archon. They are one of the most powerful entities in all of Teyvat, so its quite nonsensical than a single mortal can just match their strenght. Even the Khaenri'ahn's had legions of powerful machines, unleashed seas of abyssal creatures and who knows what else. That is why the Dendro, Hydro and Electro Archon died, but thats still a reasonable explanation. Capitano just being this strong (or any of the top 3) just doesn't make sense. Nahida said the top 3 can "rival" the power of the gods, but even gods have great differences between each other regarding their power level
7:05 I'm confused about your point about elemental energy being used to counter Abyssal energy. I'm not sure that can be a thing. Xiao doesn't particularly seem to use any energy to kill the Hilichurls that are infected with bad karma. I'm not sure where you are suggesting "abyssal radiation" gets fixed by elemental energies. As for the Withering you do use dendrograna to remove them, but the nature of grana are unknown and they may have eg an aspect of Celestial energy in them. There's some line about electrograna having a will. And it's not like you can just hit the Withering with a Dendro attack to get rid of it. Possibly any granum could destroy Withering but of course Sumeru only has the Dendrograna.
During the Sumeru Archon quest and Tighnari’s story quest it’s said that elemental sensitivity (elemental control/power) gives resistance to the withering, a form of abyssal corruption. It’s also said during lantern rite that the traveler and others with elemental sensitivity (zhongli, venti) have a resistance to Xiao’s karmic debt, which I believe may be a form of abyssal corruption. The aranara were also able to combat and protect against the avatar of Marana (abyss) using dendro elemental energy.
@@iamsyncx Oh I thought you meant it could eliminate the Abyssal energy. Yeah they've always said Visions protect against a bunch of stuff. But I never got the impression that was simply because any amount of elemental "sensitivity" would do the same. I mean would they say that Fatui agents can handle Withering zones? or the Eremite warriors that have elemental powers without a Vision?
I don’t believe just any amount can do the job, but I do believe elemental power can defeat abyssal energy in high enough concentration (like the seven gnoses). An example of large amounts of elemental energy defeating something abyssal was the Marana example. But I do think elemental sensitivity in general protects against it. So far, it hasn’t been a power specified to only work with visions, which is why the traveler and others with innate elemental power have an increased resistance to it.
Hello, Syncx! Well about the Theory… I mean, let take this Theory from an depth-wide sight… if the Fatui will lose, the only who remains of stronge character to stand against the Celestia, is only The Traveler, and I don’t think that the Traveler has the power to destroy Celestia, and Genshin Impact's Story End will be very bad. It fit for us to team-up with the ABYSS and the Fatui in one hand; to destroy Celestia, and it fit for The Traveler to join the Fatui, and be one of the Harbingers of the Fatui, and his title is “Aether/Lumine (depend on what Traveler you chose), THE TRAVELER. Also it really fit for the plan of destroying Celestia will be: We, the Traveler (with the 7 Elements (Omni) and Tsaritsa with the 7 Elemental Gnosis (Omni) and Capitano (the 1st Harbinger) to stand against the Unknown God, we specifically; (because we are very strong; to stand against the Unknown God), until Dottore, and Colombina, burn the Iremnsul (they will fight with us though) (Tayvat's Main Tree); to have the opportunity; to defeat the Unknown God -Celestia's Main Core- but… ofc the Unknown God is not the only one who we will fight; there will be other Gods as well in Celestia, well the Abyss and Khanrian'h, and the other Fatui Harbingers, like Perro, and the Dwarf Who Own Nose, and the Pants Guy, will take care of the other Celestia's Sliders, and these “weaks” Gods. Yeah, and that's for it. Bye bye!
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Correction: 7:12 , Xiao’s Karma is not Abyssal, it is the ‘debt’ from killing and handling the remains of failed Demon Gods (Archons).
@@EthHawke94 It's said to be a result of that but it's never said why exactly it works. I believe it's abyssal in nature given their similarities, but that has yet to be confirmed or disproven.
@@iamsyncxi also have theory abbout the fall of Fatui ,i thing every body forgot that Diluc have some beef with Fatui ,he know that Fatui Harbinger responseble for his Father death so i thing when we fight all Fatui Harbinger Diluc will help us to defeat them and also don't forget Childe parent is taking hostage by rooster and when childe know this he will attack rooster and make him traitor to Fatui and we must save him
what fatui is going to do is not fight celstia themselves,
they know that they can't fight celestia in any way even if they have all gnosis
but what if the purpose of those gnosis is something grand
like awakening of dragon king
(which will happen for sure)
In nahida quest we know
dendro dragon say kill me which will awake the dendro king sooner and mankind will suffer after.
So what I think is fatuis is gonna use those gnosia to make dragon king realize other sovereigns are dead and he will awake then
I also feel like the Abyss Order is just biding their time for the Fatui to fail and to distract Celestia while they themselves have been building up their forces and plan from the sidelines. Honestly, the Abyss Order has the highest chance of actually overthrowing Celestia, since they alone seemingly have the power to escape or hide their fate. It always seemed odd how the Abyss Order and Fatui have pretty much never interacted with each other in the slightest in the entire game so far, with only small allusions being made like how Piero used to send Scaramouche to the Abyss.
My guess is that while the Fatui will be the primary villains for much of the game, we learn more about the Abyss Order's true goals with Dainsleif from the sidelines, and as a result the Traveler is the only one who is aware of what the true threat is, but it's too late. Traveler will be occupied with stopping the Tsaritsa and the Fatui from incurring the wrath of Celestia and setting Teyvat ablaze, and when the dust settles and the Fatui are halted or crippled, the Abyss Order finally unveil their plan that they have been working on completely unhindered. They might capture all 7 gnoses from the Tsaritsa or destroy them, and start the Loom of Fate operation, which forces all of the Fatui and the Traveler to work together to stop them by going to where everything started in Khaenri'ah
Khaenriah is after Snezhnaya, maybe we will escape underneath Teyvat to survive Snezhnaya's/Teyvat's apocalypse and search for a way to beat Celestia in Khaenriah
Do you really not think that the Fatui don't know about the Abyss Order or their plans? Thats quite unlikely, because the Fatui seem to be knowledgable in all sorts of things (as required for a rebellion against the divine), so them just not expecting the Abyss Order to make a move would be very stupid.
Also, the Abyss is currently just a side-grade enemy, not comparable to the Fatui. They are inferior in literally every aspect, they don't cause nearly as much problem for us as the Harbingers for example. You could argue that its because of our sibling, but truthfully they weren't shown to be that dangerous as of yet.
...We really need more Istaroth lore by this point. She was the only one from the shades who helped Enkanomiya, Inazuma and probably other places.
...And also "ruled over" Mondstadt with Barbatos at some point...If only Venti's second character quest will have some new information. -_-
Teyvat would suffer the consequences anyway. The Tsaritsa isn't exactly benevolent and rebelling for the good of people. She's not being any better and would be Celestia V2.0
It’s known that both the abyss order and the Tsaritsa are both trying to change fate, but they are trying to do this via totally different means. In the case of the abyss order, they want to destroy Celestia. In the case of the Tsaritsa, I believe that she may be collecting the gnosis’ to possibly summon Istaroth and possibly change fate by changing the past.
If the Fatui rebellion happens when we arrive at Snezhnaya, it'll most likely fail, simply because after that, we still have to traverse through khaenri'ah (And probably Celestia after that). The climax of the story will not happen with the game having at the bare minimum one extra year of story to be released after.
What if maybe the Tsaritsa and Fatui isn’t gonna use the gnoses as power ups
Instead, maybe they’re using the gnoses to create or awaken an entity that they can use to fight and defeat celestia and maybe the abyss too by combining the power of the gnoses together
That’d be an interesting twist!
Or maybe tsaritsa will give gnosis to Cryo Dragon soverign
Only the Traveler can change the outcome, since he's equal to Primordial One... maybe after Khaenriah we see it true action
Why would traveler be equal to the primordial one ? Honestly he seems pretty weak , he got absolutely demolished by heavenly principles at full power and that’s with the help of his sister, gets wrecked by ei also, without the power of friendship and plot armor. They really give traveler no feats to show how powerful they really are
@@vchellos2249You could also look at it the other way. The Traveler and their sibling are likely beyond the heavenly principles ability to kill at their full power, hence why they were simply teleported and not outright killed by the unknown God and then sent in their HIGHLY nerfed forms down to teyvat.
imagine if a new god was born from the Abyss.
And that abyss god get all the 7 Gnosis.
fun fact in the winter night Lazzo trailer a chess game is being played a famous one Deep Blue vs Kasparov in the game these are instead represented by Celestia vs Humanity.
When Signora got taken ( the pawn ) Deep Blue (Celestia) is losing the chess game with 1 / 10 according to the most modern chess computer. Previously to that move Deep Blue wildly believed as (Celestia) was instead winning the match with 10 / 1. Other possible moves was Zhongli the rook, taking out Signora before in Liyue, or Venti the Queen taking out Scaramouche in the Mondstadt both have sufficient power as archons to do this. Neither of these moves were made on the board, and both were possible in the story. Ventis hair did not light up fighting Signora meaning he faked resisting her taking his Gnosis this in turn made Signora overconfident that she could travel to Inazuma. This means that the archons might be aware of the future and actively playing there cards to make it happen. The rules in Inazuma state the loser of a battle must die, If Signora was not intentionally put there Ei instead would have to kill the traveler with the muso hisotachi. This means Miko intentionally played her cards to make sure Signora was there we find out Miko was behind Ayatos intervention. It also made Ei move out of plane of Euthymia and her interaction with Kazuha proved that humans still can resist the divine. This is the real reason Ei has a change of heart, all though she hides it from the traveler and everyone else. Ei is most likely the most knowledgeable archon as she was there 500 years ago trying to rescue Makoto. All though Ei cherishes her memories of her sister she may not yet be willing to give up on humanity. Zhongli seem to have signed a contract to keep Liyue out of the coming war as he sacrificed to much last time. Venti is an unknown player on the board as his history is very much hidden intentionally. Now all of the archons seem to agree upon that they need to find a way to record history, as they seem to suspect that there own memories are being tampered with. Venti writes songs and ballads of great adventures, note that fairy tales is not something Irminsul translates as dangerous therefore the history of those is NOT altered. This is most likely something Lisa also found out as she seems super keen on getting back her book. Zhongli tries to record history in the stone itself but even stone erode with time. Ei has a different solution through eternity will her Inazuma ascend to the divine plane of existing.
I assume the Fatui intend to use the gnoses to activate the Irminsul to roll back time to before the 2nd throne arrived, or possibly before the PO arrived.
They're building a false descender / machine -- instead of a mere false god / machine (which they've already done).
Per René, descenders can alter Teyvat's fate and change the outcome of the world formula.
Its too early to say anything. We barely know anything about the fatui. All we know is that their plans are barely into motion and they are just gathering resources from all over teyvat, the abyss and possibly the dark sea. The harbingers have done and contributed probably a lot more than what we see or read about them and their doings. The fact that they have access to literally anywhere in teyvat and conducts all kinds of research and expeditions even to the abyss is something we shouldn't underestimate. Its important to note that the chess pieces theory is also related and the fatui currently are on the winning side of the chess board as we saw in the harbingers trailer. I believe is that the traveller will be the one to stop their plans given that the traveller is the only major variable against them. One example is signora's death which wouldn't have happened if it wasnt for the traveller. The same goes for scaramouche's betrayal.
I think its actually more likely that we are a major part of the Fatui's plans, and they always planned on our arrival. Maybe we are even necessary for their plan to work, its unsure. But it is certainly weird that they don't just straight up send a deathsquad after us, even though we can thwart their plans.
Am I the only one who believe that Sandrone don't like Childe NOT because of his Story Quest
A lot people assumed that but, it's certainly untrue
He said that everytime he saw her she wanted to kill him, and we know he saw her atleast TWO time before his Story Quest
Yes, exactly. There is also no reason why should Sandrone be angry at him for destroying some basic Ruin Guards
I'll decide what I'll think of the Tsaritsa's plan after I talk with Pierro
Now if your theory is right about the abyss, where the chosen twin goes down the abyss because of the circumstances in teyvat. It would also tie into that part "when your done exploring the world we will meet again" part and I wonder if they both will burn the world one more time, or will it only be the chosen twin?
The Mario net, ah yes my favorite harbinger
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If I had to predict what would happen is that the harbengers fail in fighting the abyss and the traveler and the seven archons go back through time to khaenriah to learn about the abyss and Celestia I would go into more death on this but if you have a mind like me then you’ll understand
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I also think they will fail, eventually most of the harbingers will fall and the tsaritsa might even die by our hands if that plan to overthrow celestia might risk the whole world.
If you read the traveler lore, it might be him/she that gonna help the tsaritsa instead, since in the traveler description, the traveler will acend to the throne
@@maspaijo5987 reminds me what dainsleif said "that throne in the sky is not reserved for you"
@@amarait2 that why im saying traveler will help tsaritsa to overthrone calestia, traveler will acended by force, im sugesting you to read traveler caracter story
I prefer when you speak or text to speech. Thanks for going back to that!
The world is fated to either drown or burn but we are the X factor against the eventuality
wait, where are you getting the "primordial one came from an egg" thing? we know the primordial one is an alien being who came to teyvat and defeated its original inhabitants, the dragons.
The Celestia seems pretty strong, if we go by feats that happened before the Archon War. But by all signs, it has weakened significantly. To the point of being unable to respond to events of 4.2 Archon quest.
At maximum, there is an injured Primordial One, a reasonably healthy Sustainer (who is the Shade of Space, one of the Four Shining Shades), and perhaps Paimon will reveal to be on their side (and will turn out to be equal to the Sustainer).
At minimum, there is a literal pheasant sitting on the throne and even the Sustainer is elsewhere. Maybe the only reason the Sustainer trapped us, is because she wants us to chase away the pheasant and sit on the throne for long enough to fix things.
And in both cases, they're all out of Celestial Nails. Which were, presumably, made out of Irminsul's previous version.
And so, a sufficiently prepared attack on Celestia might be enough to seize its powers and use them to fix things. Getting the Traveller involved is a good idea (they seem pretty enthusiastic about a rematch with the Sustainer). As is using numerous Harbingers and Fatui to distract the defenders long enough to take control.
Tsaritsa was hatching these plans for about 500 years. No way this is some half-baked plan.
The question is, where are the Gnoses in this plan? Are they used to resurrect the Third Descender and put him on the throne? Are they used to open a portal to Celestia? Are they powering a super-dreadnought that will take the troops to the floating island?
Some random notes:
"Fatui" means "fools", they wear masks and remains of dead gods. All of these could be means to hide from any prediction powers the Celestia might possess.
Tsaritsa does not plan to get rid of all the Abyss. That is probably impossible. But it is possible to get rid of its corrupting influence. Perhaps it's as easy as fixing Fontainians' vulnerability to Primordial Seawater. Because I do not believe in knowledge that can't be thought through - it has to be a weakness in inhabitants of Teyvat.
Also, the Cryo Archon's name, "Tsaritsa", is pronounced with stress on the second vowel, "i", not on the first vowel, "a".
Anyone against us would probably lose.
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My theory is that the first fatui is is secretly a member of the abyss who plans the fall of all the archons and the rise of the abyss to unleash hell on teyvat.
On the other hand, there is also the possibility that everything is Celestia's plan. It doesn't make sense for Celestia, who destroyed Khaenriah because of her ambitions, to reward people's ambitions. If the Gnosis caused the Archon war, why shouldn't the Visions start a new one? The Abyss cult and the Fatui may actually be Celestia's puppets. Turning the people you want to control against each other is the world's oldest strategy.
You got some things wrong about the world's creation. There are currently three "realms" in this universe: the Abyss, the light realm, and Teyvat. The Primordial One created Teyvat after defeating the Dragon Sovereigns. The Abyss was always separated from the light realm where the elements originate from, and Teyvat opposes it too. The Abyss wants to consume both of these realms, it is simply in its nature. For the same reason, the power of the Abyss is very harmful to elemental creatures like dragons, and vice-versa.
The Divine Nails were cast down in order to purge the Forbidden Knowledge from the world. This isn't official, but in the game, we can find an above-ground root of the Irminsul in all the places there are Divine Nails present or were implied to be. (Chasm, Dragonspine, Tsurumi Island, Sumeru desert) It could be that when the Dragon King Nibelung (or the Second Descender) brought the Forbidden Knowledge into the world, it corrupted Irminsul and the Ley-lines, and the Primordial One had to cast down the nails in order to stabilize them and prevent the destruction of Teyvat.
The Fatui have a lot at their disposal to make their rebellion succeed. They possess a lot of knowledge, as the Tsaritsa is an Archon, while Pierro himself is a royal mage of Khaenri'ah. But even among the Harbingers, there are characters like Sandrone or Dottore, who specialise in research regarding various topics (Delusions, Segment and even Ruin Machines). And we don't really know that much about the others like Pulcinella or Columbina.
But even then, we just have to look at Khaenri'ah. Their "war" with the divine was unfair, yet they still managed to cause devastating losses to the enemy. As of current knowledge, the Hydro, Dendro and Electro Archons all perished in the Cataclysm, and that power was unleashed by mortals. Rhinedottir was able to create Durin artificially, probably Elynas, along with the Riftwolves and possibly other creatures.
The Fatui have learned from Khaenri'ah's mistakes, and they even have the power of the divine on their side. So overall, the Fatui had the time, resources, and knowledge to successfully prepare for this rebellion. They most likely understand by now how to overcome fate. Its just that we don't know much about them or their machinations, since we are currently not at that part of the story yet.
The Heavenly Principles are also quite silent as of now, even though one of the Thrones has been destroyed during the Fontaine storyline. We can't know whats up with them, but based on Neuvilette's story about Visions, and the Traveler's basic character description, it is strongly implied that the Primordial One is either gone currently or very weak.
its weird to say but i wanna share a theory about genshin with you since some of your latest content is a bit similar
Im a honkai impact fan and i think that teyvat is a bubble world/bubble universe
a bubble universe in honkai is a livable space inside the sea of quanta
in chapter 36 to 40 we explore both the country of iron sand and the snow salt holy city il be refering to them as CoIs/Sshc
both bubble universes coexist in the a bigger bubble
bubble universes have their Rules wich are important to keep order inside the buuble universe or it will crumble on itself
teyvat skys are fake like the moon an stars of CoIs is fake and only exsist as a too create an illusion or are tied to the rules of the buuble universe
the snhc and cois needs an entity designed by the bubble universe as the sage if Teyvat is a world bubble and that the sustainer of heavenly principal is dying then someone will need to replace her and im thinking about the travler
also the abbys also falls into this categgor
since their is an entity called Saha or the abyys of the sea of quanta
its an entity that turns the rules of the buuble universes against them
to become more powerfull and steales the people desires by absorbing them and creating honkai energy wich is kinda toxic like the energy of the abbys and have similar property's
and i think celestia is trying their best to kick out the abbys also the reason why celestia destroys advenced civilization is because honkai becames stringer if the civilization is advanced
I think the fatui will fail, until the Traveler joins them. At current, people don't really know the Fatui/Tsaritsa's true intentions, but I believe eventually there will be overwhelming support for them as they basically fight for the people of Teyvat and all the elemental powers. The traveler is only getting more and more friendly with the fatui. Childe was a bad guy, but the Traveler was friendly ever since his story quest. We've also had events with him and in Fontaine the Traveler seems genuinely worried about him going missing. Signora is dead, Scaramouche is basically on Traveler/Nahida's side now. We've also become friendly with the House of the Hearth, and Arlecchino has done nothing but share some info with us and express her worry for Fontaine's prophecy. She's also shown her pyro vision and is rumored to be a playable character which certainly indicates being friendly with Traveler. My guess is the Fatui obtain both the hydro and pyro gnosis' before patch 6.0 and during 6.0 they enact their plan as we are in Sneznaya. They fail, until we ultimately join forces (likely by saving Sneznaya in some way) and head to Khaenriah to get the support of the abyss sibling + hilichurls. With the traveler who has saved every single nation, all of Teyvat should be willing to back them and also with the abyss' power they can take on Celestia.
I assumed they’d lose because of the plot, and good guys winning etc.
The many voices of syncx... keep up the hassle 🎉🎉
A voice switch-up is bound to happen at least once a year lol
Even though upper rank 3 have the power of a god, that doesn't mean they can match an Archon with their gnosis.
Dottore only faces Nahida who is the equivalent of a genius child, if Dottore faced Rukhadevata, would he win? Not a chance😅
That’s probably true. We’ve already established that Zhongli is the mightiest Archon, yet they sent Childe and Signora to negotiate. This being right after Signora “took” Venti’s gnosis by force. My guess is they know that even had they sent the top ranked Harbinger to Liyue and simply tried to take Zhongli’s gnosis through force, Zhongli would’ve simply stomped pierro into the ground. This is followed up by the revelation that The Captain was sent to Natlan instead of to Inazuma in a move that got Signora killed because she upset Ei’s puppet. Zhongli already said not all God’s are powerful. The top ranked harbingers might just be the equivalent of incredibly powerful humans compared to the archons
A lot of people are starting to take it for a fact that Capitano WILL fight the Pyro Archon, and that he WILL defeat her. Thanks to Genshin Gamer for the idea, but in reality it has no true basis. Even Capitano, who is basically confirmed at this point to be the 1st Harbinger, and has only info reinforcing his power, could still not be able to match an Archon.
They are one of the most powerful entities in all of Teyvat, so its quite nonsensical than a single mortal can just match their strenght. Even the Khaenri'ahn's had legions of powerful machines, unleashed seas of abyssal creatures and who knows what else. That is why the Dendro, Hydro and Electro Archon died, but thats still a reasonable explanation.
Capitano just being this strong (or any of the top 3) just doesn't make sense. Nahida said the top 3 can "rival" the power of the gods, but even gods have great differences between each other regarding their power level
IDK if it's AI or your own voice, But how do you have the ability to pronounce so many things wrong xD
It's text-to-speech. I edited it to limit as many mispronunciations as I could, but it's unfortunately unavoidable.
AI is not perfect. But if you add Diacritical Marks on letters it will pronounce the words correctly.
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@@Hummingbird_335 Diacritical Marks have actually caused some words to be completely ignored by the TTS I use unfortunately.
@@iamsyncxthe subtitles are there, people know what it meant. Idk why they're making it an issue lol
7:05 I'm confused about your point about elemental energy being used to counter Abyssal energy. I'm not sure that can be a thing. Xiao doesn't particularly seem to use any energy to kill the Hilichurls that are infected with bad karma. I'm not sure where you are suggesting "abyssal radiation" gets fixed by elemental energies. As for the Withering you do use dendrograna to remove them, but the nature of grana are unknown and they may have eg an aspect of Celestial energy in them. There's some line about electrograna having a will. And it's not like you can just hit the Withering with a Dendro attack to get rid of it. Possibly any granum could destroy Withering but of course Sumeru only has the Dendrograna.
During the Sumeru Archon quest and Tighnari’s story quest it’s said that elemental sensitivity (elemental control/power) gives resistance to the withering, a form of abyssal corruption. It’s also said during lantern rite that the traveler and others with elemental sensitivity (zhongli, venti) have a resistance to Xiao’s karmic debt, which I believe may be a form of abyssal corruption. The aranara were also able to combat and protect against the avatar of Marana (abyss) using dendro elemental energy.
@@iamsyncx Oh I thought you meant it could eliminate the Abyssal energy. Yeah they've always said Visions protect against a bunch of stuff. But I never got the impression that was simply because any amount of elemental "sensitivity" would do the same. I mean would they say that Fatui agents can handle Withering zones? or the Eremite warriors that have elemental powers without a Vision?
I don’t believe just any amount can do the job, but I do believe elemental power can defeat abyssal energy in high enough concentration (like the seven gnoses). An example of large amounts of elemental energy defeating something abyssal was the Marana example. But I do think elemental sensitivity in general protects against it. So far, it hasn’t been a power specified to only work with visions, which is why the traveler and others with innate elemental power have an increased resistance to it.
Fudge Tooey
A quick question
Why can't the Harbringers defeat the Abby's?
I mean they are super duper strong AF 🤨🤨
Hello, Syncx! Well about the Theory… I mean, let take this Theory from an depth-wide sight… if the Fatui will lose, the only who remains of stronge character to stand against the Celestia, is only The Traveler, and I don’t think that the Traveler has the power to destroy Celestia, and Genshin Impact's Story End will be very bad. It fit for us to team-up with the ABYSS and the Fatui in one hand; to destroy Celestia, and it fit for The Traveler to join the Fatui, and be one of the Harbingers of the Fatui, and his title is “Aether/Lumine (depend on what Traveler you chose), THE TRAVELER. Also it really fit for the plan of destroying Celestia will be: We, the Traveler (with the 7 Elements (Omni) and Tsaritsa with the 7 Elemental Gnosis (Omni) and Capitano (the 1st Harbinger) to stand against the Unknown God, we specifically; (because we are very strong; to stand against the Unknown God), until Dottore, and Colombina, burn the Iremnsul (they will fight with us though) (Tayvat's Main Tree); to have the opportunity; to defeat the Unknown God -Celestia's Main Core- but… ofc the Unknown God is not the only one who we will fight; there will be other Gods as well in Celestia, well the Abyss and Khanrian'h, and the other Fatui Harbingers, like Perro, and the Dwarf Who Own Nose, and the Pants Guy, will take care of the other Celestia's Sliders, and these “weaks” Gods. Yeah, and that's for it. Bye bye!
Are they dregs or not? Worth finding out...
gotta train the voice bot to pronounce the word Fatui and Snezhnaya right.
and Monstadt
TAVET
Har-bing-er
You seriously need a better text-to speech engine…
Sez you