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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- PolarPro QuartzLine Filters Review | Photographer Dustin Abbott reviews the high end QuartzLine filters from PolarPro. Put simply, these are the nicest made, best performing filters that Dustin has used to date, and they come complete with their own very useful app. Watch here for a demonstration and review of the QuartzLine (CP-L, ND1000, ND-64 + CP-L). Visit the written review and image gallery here: bit.ly/polarproQL
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I can't understand how this channel has only 64k subs. You have by far the best reviews on UA-cam. Really, keep it the hard work, you help a lot of people with your honest and deep reviews.
My channel may not have the "entertainment value" of others.
A direct comparison to breakthrough photography filters would be a benefit to everyone if you could do it. As I see it, they are the closest competitor to polar pro filters.
I've heard a couple of requests to do so. I'll try down the road, but my review schedule gets seriously backed up.
B+W are up ther as well.
Great video Dustin! I've been needing some new, high quality filters and haven't been sure which I would go with yet, but I will definitely give these a solid chance. I've always valued your reviews and respected your thoroughness and honesty with your videos and opinions.
Thanks, Brent. There's a number of good filter options out there. I was very impressed with these filters for their overall execution.
Hi Justin. A bit of trivia for you... Here in Australia we pronounce Ayers Rock as "Airs rock" It is also known by the Aboriginal name Uluru, pronounced oo-la-roo.
Nice. Thanks for the info.
You provided a ton of useful information my man, good stuff
Glad it was helpful!
As to filters getting stuck, this may be due to how smooth the thread in the filter has been cut (at microscopic level) and its adhesion potential to the opposite side, the thread in the camera. The manufacturer here claims brass and its inherently smooth thread cuts will not get stuck. This has been my not-researched-prejudice over the past decades too.
Brass is a great material for lens mounts and filter threads.
Hi Dustin, Great review as always. I have a Sony 24-105mm lens (the one that doesn't 'excite' you) lol , mounted on an a7iii. . . I shoot a lot around water and have enjoyed using polarizers in the past. Do you recommend this particular polarizer for my combo, or is there something else you'd prefer instead? Thanks again for a great video.
This is a really excellent one. I've also reviewed some filters from Freewell and Irix Edge that are solid lower priced alternatives.
Firstly Thank you.
PolarPro has actually discontinued the app unfortunately
That's too bad.
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Abbott's Photo & Accessories.
You kept a few RC supplies in your store so as to not blow your cover, and turned your business into a photo mafia operation.
Anyone that disagreed with you, your men would pay a visit to them at night, and by dawn, they too were buried underneath your store.
One person came into your store, and said Tony & Chelsey were better and they were never coming back. You killed them too!
When I woke up, i sat up and pondered this real life, realistic dream, amd said to myself, "That Was AWESOME" 🤣
If you ever turn into a psycho photographer mafia man, please hire me! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank You For ALL Your Videos Sir!
I have learned so much. Your very well articulated, and detailed in ways that help me learn, and make decent choices in my purchases.
Thank You Sir! 😊
PS:
Sorry, but i had to tell you about that dream! It was wild! 🤣
LOL - I had to read this one out loud to my wife and we laughed and laughed over it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI
lol Thats awesome sir! That makes me happy to hear that. I have never dreamed about anyone on youtube before, so it made the dream extra memorable! lol
You & Your Family Stay Blessed Sir 😊
Thank You Both For Finding The Humor In That Dream. I was very nervous sharing it. lol
Thank You 😊
Thanks for another great review! I was wondering if you would consider doing a Sony 70-200 f2.8 master review. It seems to me that all the typical people who do lens reviews on youtube haven't done a detailed review of it. I found conflicting reviews on its sharpness some people saying its amazing best 70-200, some people saying QC issues so its a toss up and others saying its just not sharp compared to Nikon & Canon versions. Either way thanks for all the great info you provide!
Chris, I am interested in looking at the 70-200 at some point, but it is often difficult with so many new lenses coming out all the time!
Awesome and I get it your reviews are very detailed so probably take much longer to make! Thanks for the response! Keep up the great work @@DustinAbbottTWI
Such difficult choices, of course it'd be nice to own them all. I'm interested in the variable ND's but how bad would stacking a CP atop that be? Part of the reason I find the variable ND's such an attractive option is for some subjects you want an exact shutter speed AND in addition you can dial back the ND to a lesser setting so you're able to focus your lens easier. I find I'm always removing my ND to focus and in cold weather at an icy waterfall dropping the filter is always a risk. Sometimes more options makes it harder to make the right choice. Thank you as always for the review, these look worth the cost for sure.
It would depend on the lens whether or not additional vignette was a factor, but optically these filters seem sound enough to handle the stacking.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks Dustin, I may start with the separate filters and try that so I have more options. Appreciate your reply.
Thanks for your very articulate review. New to filters hence the time lapse from the making of your video!!! These filters really look the business although quite expensive. My question is - again remembreing I'm new to filters - if I purchased say the 10stop ND combined with the circular polarizer, is it possible to use one without the other? For example, I may want just to use the polarizer to decrease glare and reflection but don't want to use the ND part....is that possible?
You might want to get their ND64/CP-L filter if you want a mix of the two. You can stack filters like that, but it is possible to introduce mechanical vignette depending on how wide the focal length is.
them some sweet filters : )
For sure.
Great info as always Dustin. I notice you didnt mention that you cant attach lens caps with these filters, is that correct? Seems like the only downside if thats the case ill probably still go for these. Cheers.
A lens cap typically will mount, actually.
Apparent sharpness can increase because of great polarization, as it takes some of the spurious (from detail resolution point of view) reflections in the subject away.
That's exactly right. I find that it increases APPARENT contrast, which boosts APPARENT resolution.
@@DustinAbbottTWI- everybody recognizes fog - even when they are not able to see the actual water vapour particles with the naked eye. That kind of diffusion happens a lot in the atmosphere and on surfaces. When it is relatively mild we might call it haze. On clear winter days when there is little moist in the air, you can see proverbially "forever". Cold air cannot carry moist well. When the diffusion is gone on that clear day we get sharper, more detailed, photographs. The polarizing filter takes some of the haze away when it is not a clear day. The same way as it takes reflections away from the surface of water and all of a sudden we can look through the surface - thus revealing details that were (almost) invisible before. With something nearby, we are not inclined to call the polarization effect "increase of sharpness", but the detail gain at distance we would.
Dustin, I'm not a big collector of filters but one of the few I own is an ND1000, which obviously to use you have to pre-focus then screw it on and snap your photo. Is an ND64 generally light enough for the camera to still auto focus? (My guess is not, but who knows if you have a lens attached whose aperture is greater than 2.0.)
What camera, Randy? It obviously depends on the lighting conditions, but some cameras can still focus these days even with an ND1000 attached. I went out and shot handheld for an afternoon with the ND64/PL attached (though that's not really the purpose). I had no AF problems with an a7R3.
Great review, I was wondering did you get a chance to compare the difference between using a ND64/PL vs. ND64 + Circular Polariser stacked?
I am trying to decide whether to go down the path of CP + ND64 + ND 1000 vs CP + ND64PL + ND1000 (I think I will always want a stand alone CP for other usage)
I shoot a lot on 16-35mm on full frame, would the stacking cause a lot of vignetting at 16mm?
Cheers
It's hard to predict how much vignetting will be on a particular lens without testing it. I do generally prefer the hybrid filter rather than stacking for that reason, though.
This review has come at just the right time, I'm looking for a new 77mm circular polariser, but i'm wondering if there is much difference between, say a B&W or a Carl Zeiss filter that have their special coatings compared to this new Quartzline filter?
I would say the QuartzLine might possibly be better with the ND1000 (due to having no color casts), but as long as you have a really good clarity, slim polarizer, a good B+W would be fine. Frankly I wasn't blown away by the Zeiss filters. They are good, but I would pick these over them.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for the info' Dustin, it's been very useful
How does it compare the B+W filters? I use the B+W filters, which are supposed to the best, but they seem to have a somewhat extreme color cast. I use the ND1000 and circular PL.
I would say these filters do a better job of being neutral
Hi Dustin, very interesting review. I also would love to see a comparison with breakthrough photography filters. And, I just received the PolarPro Variable ND Filter set for video work. It would be nice to hear what you say about those. Greetings from Spain, d
That's probably a fair standard to compare with. I have agreed to look at the new Variable ND in a month or two.
How do you clean them? Great review!
I tend to just use a microfiber cloth and fog them with my breath.
Dear Sir,
Thank you very much for your great review. I’m considering to buy Polarpro filter for taking portrait photo outdoor. I already decided to go with Polar ND16,but don’t know to buy the Polarpro ND or ND/CPL. Both Polar ND and ND/CPL have same price 129$ at this moment.
Could you give me advice which one should I buy? Thank you so much.
If you think you might want both ND and CPL "stacked" for your work, then get the combo filter. If you are just looking to cut the light reaching the sensor, go for the straight ND filter.
When I first heard of PolarPro it was because of Peter McKinnon. I intend to buy a ND filter since I don't own one yet and was looking into PolarPro's ND filter, Peter McKinnon edition. I was wondering if I could also use a polarizer with it at the same time. But you talked about having both on a single filter which is super useful. The filters you tried, was it with or without the polarizer?
I used both an ND1000 filter (no polarizer) and a ND64/CP-L combo filter. They have four different "flavors" of these type filters, from ND8-Nd1000 (with polarizer).
Would you recommend the ND/PL? I currently have a CPL already and I’m looking at purchasing an ND64, not sure if I should go with the ND64PL or the standard....I suppose you can tone down the polarization if you don’t want as much.
I still like the idea of keeping those filters separate and maybe stacking if needed.
Dustin Abbott That’s a good point, was thinking the same thing myself. You might not always need or want polarization
Hey Dustin thank you so much for a great video. Late in the game On watching it but I appreciate it nonetheless. I want to purchase a set but I was planning on buying a step-up ring (also by polar pro), so I can use with more than 1 lens. In your expert opinion do you believe a step-up ring, even though it is made by polar pro, would create more cross polarization? I heard because of the increased distance from a wide-angle would pose a problem. I’m using 24mm. Thanks again for the great videos as always.
Hi Joe, I've used a fair number of step up rings, and I don't recall seeing any real degradation of performance.
Dustin Abbott Ok great thanks Dustin. Yeah I was hoping to avoid what you refer to as mechanical vignetting by stacking filters. But I see the PolarPro step-up rings are pretty slim. Thanks again.
hi
how to reduce reflection with polarpro ND1000/PL ? as 10 stop is too dark to see through.
What kind of reflections are you referring to?
Do I have - for the combo nd/polarizer - to add 1 to 2 stops to the 10 stops for the nd filter? Do I have to count a total of 11 to 12 stops?
I think the total should be reflected on the ND filter, but you might want to ask the question to PP
Is the circular polarizing filter adjustable? If so, how far can it be dialed down? I'm wondering if I should just get the CP instead of a UV filter for my new lens.
A CP-L is not really a replacement for a UV filter. It always has some effect and will limit the amount of light reaching the sensor. It works great in some situations, but isn't recommended for others at all.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for the clarification. I have another question. Do these filters stack? Will the ND filter screw onto the front of the UV?
It is impressive for the manufacturer to talk about some factor like 64 or 1,000, but it makes more sense to use EV. The way we talk about photography is not in linear number like these factors but in "stops" (which EV do too). 64 times means 6 stops or EV and 1,000 times light reduction means 10 EV. If we had to expose a scene at F/11 with 1/125 sec for a correct exposure at ISO 100, then 6 stops reduction means we can change F/11 into F/1.4, or go from 1/125 sec to 1/2 sec. If you wanted the background blur of 1.4, or the motion blur of 1/2 sec, you would have to set ISO to about 1.5 - impossible, so you have to use a reduction filter.
As to price, I wonder how this comes about. Look up what an 11 element Nikon Z 35/1.8S costs, its weight and construction - and compare. Not sure these prices are justifiable - except that people are buying it.
I get your logic, but you are arguing against the industry standard for all filter companies. That's unlikely to change.
is the nd 64 the best to get so what im asking is 6 stop a good one to start with
That's a fairly versatile choice, yes.
I bought the variable ND filter from Polar Pro (Peter McKinnon Edition). Is it possible to screw the Polar Pro CPL filter to the lens first and then the variable nd filter to the CPL filter ? So the question is whether the CPL filter has a threads on both sides ?
Yes, it is threaded on both sides.
@@DustinAbbottTWI sorry, may I ask if image quality would be affected if we do this way (stacking VND in front of CPL filter), given both of them are from PolarPro? Thank you
@@thoph2823 Polar Pro commented on their own video that they do NOT recommend stacking those filters. They suggest stacking the CPL with a regular ND filter.
Looking forward to you reviewing square filter systems like Lee, Nisi, Haida,....
I’ve done a few of them in the past.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I'm afraid I can't really find those vids on your YT channel when searching for "filter"
I’ve got a filter playlist. There are more reviews on my website, though not of Lee or Nisi. I’ve reviewed the Fotodiox WonderPana and Samyang square filter systems.
Dustin Abbott would please you at some point compare the qualities of a few major square filters. I'm interested in the ones with magnetic frames holders like H&Y but I'm not sure if I should just get the frames and fit them with Nisi filters or buy theirs (H&Y). I know my request is very specific to two kinds but you could perhaps include other major brands in the comparison video.
Just got my fixed polar pro ND's. They seem noticeably heavier than Breakthrough photography.
They are all brass, so that's part of it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thx for the reply. So I guess, that's a disadvantage in an advantage sort of thing. The PolarPro is probably a little sturdier than Breakthrough but at the expense of extra weight. Mhhh, not sure whether to keep or exchange for Breakthrough.
Dustin what do you think of that some people say ovetdesigned lenses (too many elements) with too much sharpness and chromattic abberation control in mind produce flat images with no fatality and bad microcontrast ?
I think that a broad generalization like that doesn't hold up. It has a lot to do with the individual lens design and the quality of the elements. Some Zeiss Otus lenses, for example, are fairly complex, but have incredible microcontrast (the Otus 85mm is one of the best examples of that, which I've thoroughly documented in my 85mm showdown series).
@@DustinAbbottTWI I got this from a video fron Theroia Aphopasis or so and he means that Zeiss, Leica and Voigtländer
are brands that take care of this and I was surprised because I have never heard of that before.
I thaught on Zeiss too but whats with Sigma ,Sony, Tokina...
@@danielsalahi577 I stand by my assessment. Some brands do better than others, but it still comes down to the individual lenses.
Does it have cross effects that when u turn it max
You'll have to be more specific about what you mean by "cross effects".
Dustin Abbott those x effect that we get for turning variable nd
I haven't tested a variable ND from them, yet, though I have agreed to in a month or so.
Have you used the B+W xspro 803/806/810 ones? How do they compare?
I've used and liked B+W filters, though I'm not certain I've used the ones you note here.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks! Is B+W old? Cause regarding ND filters all I can find are polarpro quartzline and breakthrough x4 videos, nobody is talking about B+W.
"Really really" 😂
LOL
1:21 you keep saying lenses instead of filters 😅
I find that I struggle with that sometimes when I'm reviewing something outside the scope of my normal reviews.
@@DustinAbbottTWI no one cares.. we do however like the 10 stars out of 5 maximum score that every review you do has.. ty! Gotta say it's some of the best!!
LOL - thanks!
Identical really?
To what, exactly? I’m not sure I follow.
That was simply a sales show ....
Hmmm, that's a very broad accusation without any evidence to support the claim. Can you cite any actual evidence that this is what I have done? The one flaw that I found was the price, which I stated clearly on multiple occasions.
@@DustinAbbottTWI It is not an accusation - it is my impression. Furthermore, I don´t see any reason to use a filter in photography (with two or three expeditions).
Fair enough. I don't often use them myself, but I do really like using a CP-L for nature photography and a ND1000 filter is pretty much a must-own if you plan on doing long exposures.