Etrian Odyssey: Persona's Forgotten Sister Series
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- If you want to try an Etrian Odyssey game, start with Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold, and if you can't play that, go with Etrian Odyssey III HD.
Etrian Odyssey Utility Links: docs.google.com/document/d/1m...
Song List:
CrossCode - S-Rank Battle
Rabbit & Steel - A Valiant Battle
Rabbit & Steel - A Mysterious Battle
Project Sekai - Enjoy Sports!
Project Sekai - マジカルタイム♪ (Magical Time)
One Step From Eden - The Forest
Etrian Odyssey III - Cityscape ~ The Dusk Clad Ocean City
Etrian Odyssey IV - Battlefield ~ Gale Force
Etrian Odyssey Nexus - Labyrinth ~ World Shrine
Street Fighter V - Sakura Theme
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:34 - Don't start with Etrian Odyssey 1
2:03 - Party Building
4:34 - Mapping
5:24 - Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold
9:42 - Etrian Odyssey III HD
13:37 - Etrian Odyssey IV
16:36 - Beginner Advice - Ігри
If you want to play Etrian Odyssey IV on Citra:
Step 1: Enabling speed-up
Once Etrian Odyssey IV appears in Citra's game select,
- Right click the game in Citra's game select -> Properties -> Set Emulation Speed to 150%
- Go to Emulation -> Graphics -> Advanced -> DISABLE VSync
- Go to Emulation -> Controls -> Hotkeys -> Toggle Per-Game Speed, assign your hotkey of choice.
Step 2: Changing Resolution
- Go to Emulation -> Graphics -> Internal Resolution, change to your liking
Step 3: Using game mods
- Right click the game in Citra's game select -> Open Mods Location, drag mods to the folder that pops up.
Recommended mods: EO4:
- Speed Patch (romfs) by violentlycar
- EO4 “Transparency Patch” by GlitchMC
Links to these can be found in the EO Utility Links Google Doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/edit
Troubleshooting:
- Make sure the code(dot)bin file is OUTSIDE the romfs folder, and none of them are contained in any folders past the point you arrived at when you did "Open Mods Location".
- No, Citra does not have support for multiple keys bound to a single button.
- Yeah, sometimes Citra may just crash on you. Not much you can do about it, just make sure your settings are sensible.
You know, since it was my first, I never was bothered by the speed. Even replaying it recently, I didn't even realize.
I always go slowly and methodically, because I am either mapping, or paying attention to FOE movement though...
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I agree here. I started with EO1 and I'm always looking at what the enemy does to figure out what to keep in mind for the next encounter, so I actually really dislike it when actions fly by without getting to see which parts I need to bind, what type of damage the enemy uses, and what skill actually killed me.
I've seen several times that people are caught off-guard by fast-moving combat because it makes them not pay attention to anything.
It's not forgotten! I cry in my corner waiting for any game that is ETRIAN LIKE. I sob im my corner that ETRIAN MYSTERY DUNGEON is stuck on the 3DS when it's my two favorite Dungeon Divers together! 😢
I'll forever be mad that EMD2 is stuck in the 3ds and just in Japanese.
I know some of the simpler RPG games in recent years (e.g. Undernauts) have come close to being Etrian-like, while taking a different artstyle & not wholesale implementing the mapping system (maybe due to copyrighting or something)
But not a single game, not even one, has come close to a Valkyria Chronicles-like. That's what saddens me the most. It's been out for like, over 15 years at this point, and nobody's managed a turn-based strategy using something similar to the BLiTZ system.
I swear, if indie developers manage to replicate the BLiTZ system for their Steam / GOG games & add a level editor for UGCs, it would sell like hotcakes even if the graphics are all 16-bit. There's a huge desire & thirst for more VCs that few have publicly acknowledged
To this day I have never realized Eo4 was slower than the other games in the series lol, never was a deal breaker to me tbh
Besides the wonderful class design, it's also underrated how great the random encounters are. Many JRPGs end up with their enemies being simple fodder, but in EO, they use more interesing tactics (including synergies your own party might use), on top of being fairly strong and challenging your TP management. You also get FOEs doubling as obstacles AND minibosses, so in general, it doesn't feel like only the bosses are the good parts and the game is more consistently entertaining.
EO5 was so peak that game had hell slash
Also like every class had clear and viable build paths wich is super good for newbs
Like im not kidding every class is cool af and viable and its like the only game with multiple viable and interesting tanks and healers. Also it has viable petrify and i think that is cool
Eo5 was a pretty good game, Loved the Dragoon.
Playing it rn, you're 100% right
Hell yeah it's my favorite also. I really really really prefer the branching class paths over the sub class systems. Not only does it make it so every class combo can work together since it gives every class ways to contribute support or offensively, it makes it so classes don't straight up cannibalize another class's role later in the game.
The different races also lets you use a few of the classes in very different ways, so if you play around with your party setup you can build some interesting teams.
Etrian Odyssey is basically a Dungeons & Dragons campaign in the best possible sense. And the DS/3DS is the absolute perfect platform for it - filling in maps yourself is just such an important part of the experience, the automapping of the re-release is just taking away a bit from that, though I recognize they had to do it. I do hope that we'll eventually get a new EO, but I also believe this series would have to go to Phones and Tablets with a touchscreen to really retain what makes it so great. PS: EO3 actually has a good story, and I'm happy it's available for a good price again instead of needing to hunt a $$$$$ original DS cartridge.
I think the Wii U would have been perfect for it too, and I am not sure how to feel about this tbh
I originally got started with this series watching a friend stream through the first few ones, back about when 5 came out, so that was my first EO. But I can understand why 5 wasn't brought up -- things were further changed only for that game (as the next one was Nexus, which I consider a boring slog) with the subjob system in 3 and 4, and the Basic/Veteran/Master tier skills, replaced with 5's title system (a forked evolution for a given class that focuses on one of the two aspects of a class, like Rover's hound and hawk, Dragoon's tanking and offense, or Botanist's healing and aliment skillsets), and the whole "they added races which polarized options you could take" part of 5 as well.
My most favorite series and the reason why I love the ds era and I got all the games.
Really hope for more games though like the elusive eo3u.
One of my favorite Fire Emblem UA-camrs is making videos about another of my favorite series? Sign me up, let's go!
Yeah this was a super cool surprise for me, too lmao
Personally i don't like to hear 4 being called easy, when i think it's more accurate to say the game is the most fair game in the series up to that point. The skills are more usefull and better described than any prior game. The skill trees are better built so you'll obtain something usefull before having to dump 21 skill points into several skills that serve you no purpose, literal dead weight, just to access the skill you actually do want. That's 21 levels to begin being able to level an actual good skill. You can actually reliably land status and even reapply them whereas before you're living on a prayer if your status lands and if you get it you're praying yet again it lasts more than 1 turn cause if it don't you're not getting that status on that enemy again. Only thing i think really makes the game easy is that through eating you can cover your ass by strengthening your resistances without needing to change your equipment allowing you to really push that glass cannon build you may be rocking.
Easily my favorite games of all time when it comes to player character and party customization.
I get a real kick out of the little Medigirl illustrations in this video. I recently started my journey playing the games from the first to last (because I got stuck in EO1 DS as a kid and never beat it) and because of that game's whack skill balance, that orange-haired Medic ended up being both my party's defensive backbone AND one of my main damage dealers. As someone who likes to make up backstories for my created characters in these games, that was GREAT. She's been my "guild leader" in any of the games I played afterwards ever since. Funnily enough, this series is the only game series I ever got this much into the roleplaying.
Something I love about the series so far (I'm on EO2 HD right now, but have finished EO1 HD and played quite a bit of EO4) is how it encourages slowing down and thinking about stuff. Theorycrafting over party combinations is something I only did in a few old RPGs before this series and it's one of the most relaxing things ever. Sometimes, my sessions aren't about progress, but just trying new stuff (because I didn't know about these skill websites you mentioned) and it's just chill.
One thing I learned from this video (apart from that there's skill tester websites), is that the Untold games released back to back and after EO4, which surprised me. I hadn't looked into it and thought they had started off the 3DS with Untold 1.
I really hope the series manages to continue after the HD collection. Losing the 3DS REALLY hurts it sadly, but man, Etrian Odyssey's party building and dungeon diving is too special to just let it die in my opinion.
I started with Etrian Odyssey Untold way back when after playing the demo for a little while, and I had a great time playing through the story mode in the full game. I picked up Untold 2 at a really low price during a sale, and I always intended to get to it at some point, but seeing your video about the medic class in that game was what spurred me to finally start! I'm working my way through the first stratum now and I've got 3 HD waiting for me as well. Keep on making videos about this series, man! I'd love to watch more of them.
Funnily enough, I did start with IV. I don’t remember it being that slow, but maybe that’s just because I didn’t have the others as reference points. I do remember holding down the B button to skip through most of the battle text though.
EO2U is BY FAR the one of the best entry points imo and FINALLY someone who appreciates the survivalist. EOII was my first entry in the series, so you can imagine the pure excitement I felt when EO2U was announced. Beautiful game, fun game mechanics to abuse the hell out of, and the story mode is actually pretty good and a great way for someone to experience an EO game if they feel like they need a set party with set characters.
Etrian Odyssey is a great game series
the two games that really got me into it was Persona Q and Untold 2. I had gotten 4 but it hadn't clicked for me, the battles and exploration. Then I played PQ and loved it which got me excited for Untold 2 and then I was in it
though my god did I play Untold 2 badly. I did the story mode with the preset party but it took so long to use them correctly. Realizing the damage Chloe could pull out with Ailing Slash as a War Magus, I'd thought to make her just a healer. Arianna was on buffs and healing for the whole game. Literally up to the final boss and I couldn't beat him, looked it up and it said "use Link Order 2". I tested it out and holy hell her damage was insane. I'd handicapped myself the whole game haha thankfully I knew better for 5 and Nexus, and I have to swing back to the rest of the games
I still stand by starting with 1 and 2, since they're very hard to get into after playing the latter ones. But, I'm also an OG 2 enjoyer.
It's not forgotten, just really, really underrated.
Source: Been a fan since around 2013 (I actually remember looking forward to Fafnir Knight being released).
These games are pure gems. I went through EO1 and 4. It was awesome.
The biggest thing with Etrain for me, which you only barely touched on: Engage with the story. "But these games don't have much story!" Exactly. Just like your build is an open question, and your map is an empty sheet of graph paper, the story is also a blank script for you to fill in as you see fit. The story is *just* extant enough that you have a shape to conform to. It's like a coloring book for your story. Don't just look at your party as a stat block and a list of skills and skill point allocations. Who are they? What are they doing here in the labyrinth? Why are they here? How do thye interact with eachother? How do they interact with the town? Do they have friends or family who aren't in the team or npcs? the game is asking you, begging you, to be creative in so many ways, and you do yourself a disservice to not engage with all of it I think. Whether you write a full on fanfic or you just have these little interactions in your head, your time with Etrian will be SO much more fun if you think of your party as characters. Be creative with this game in every way you can be, and you'll have a great time, I promise.
My favorite RPG series. 😍 I puchased Etrian Odyssey on the ds at a whim and thoroughly enjoyed it despite its shortcoming. These games really utilize the ds and 3ds capabilities to the max because drawinon the map while fighting was so easy. Etrian Odyssey V is my favorite due to the customization in portrait for your members and class are really cool to use.
I still remember back im the day I would respec every few floors to realign my party's EXP curves.
Let's gooo, another EO video! Can't wait to watch this!
I only know the series from reading IGN reviews back in the day. The theorycrafting element absolutely looks up my alley.
love your stuff! thanks for making a video on the interesting mechanics of the series
EO definitely needs the untold games ported to the switch
You're tempting me too hard with these videos. I've never played any EO game other than one of the demos but my academic career is at a huge risk to be hijacked by a JRPG series with great mechanical depth .... You make them seem so fun 😅
Thanks for highlighting my favorite game series. I always compare new RPGs to these games because its that good and has so many concepts that I want other games to adapt.
One piece of advice for new players is to remember that bosses are only a good 30% of the game you face so skilling for aoe attacks and field map skills makes the game as a whole a lot more manageable. Putting points into Resuscitate or Risk Perception/Sneak Attack in Untold 2 go a long way than meager damage increases unless you skill their larger bonus point thresholds. You don't have to fight FOEs on the first time you visit a floor and you can always rest whenever you are stuck on FOEs/5th level bosses.
-I still spec for bosses.-
Your vid on EO2U got me into the series and I love it so far, keep up the good work 🙏
I got addicted to Venus Blood and never lookee back.
3:36
I just knew a character named "Palmer" was gonna use the Alchemist Palm skills.
I should really play this series more
Omg Rabbit and Steel music
I love Etrian Odyssey, I started with EOU1 and then expanded from there. EO5 is by far my favorite.
Pretty much finished these game's several times over, so much so that i finally migrated to the Nexus(X) overhaul mod. 2 extra classes and rebalanced classes. Its been pretty damn solid so far.
Funnily enough, I would recommend different parts of the series based on what you'd like to experience.
- EO1 (either version) if you'd like the core Etrian Odyssey experience. Furthermore, EO1 is very simple so it may take a new player by surprise but also doesn't exactly punish poor choices as hard.
- EO3 for my personal favorite, though it is much harder to understand than most others in the series.
- EO4 for the best experience with the series as a whole. It's got a good storyline without needing a fixed party, enemies aren't spongy like in the games that succeed it, and there are a good few strategies to employ.
- Untold 1 or Untold 2 if you'd like a story to guide you through the game. Untold 1 suffers from being a modern-styled Etrian Odyssey while keeping the old-style classes, and Untold 2 suffers from HP bloat though.
this is my second jrpg i’m going to play… i’m terrified
"I do not reccomend starting with EO1 or 2..."
...a bit late for that now.
I uhh, 100% EO1 DS. To be fair, I played it on an emulator, and I probably would've given up on 100% if I didn't have save states. Its also the first game in the series I've played to completion.
I'm almost done with EO2 now, also going for 100%. I have a lot of issues with EO1 and 2, but I enjoyed them enough to keep going. I'm playing them in order, so EO3 is next; I've been hearing good things about it, so I'm hoping it'll be much better than the first 2.
Just beat untold 2 with 5 troubadors, you can make anything work if you try hard enough!
I love these games so much, my absolute favorite series after Fire Emblem. More people should give them a go, they're super rewarding!
I love the mechanical side of Etrian Odyssey, but what got me into the series is the freedom it grants when making your characters. Because there is no dialogue or pre-written story, you can have all of your characters be whoever you want them to be. I especially liked the character customization options from Nexus and 5, because it allowed me to further emphasize the personalities I saw for my characters through their voice and colors. Ironically, what got me into the series was the demo for Etrian Odyssey Untold, and then the demo for EO4, then the demo for EO2U. I eventually went ahead and bought EOU and EO2U, made several billion runs of EO2U's first stratum, never beat any of the games, and continued to love them and call this my favorite video game series of all time. I think the furthest I've ever gotten in any game was the boss of the 3rd stratum of EO5, so... I should really get back into this series!
I remember picking up Etrian Odyssey on the DS and I was a bit too young and hot headed at that stage of my life to truly appreciate it.
I still enjoyed the game, but I definitely feel like I'd enjoy it far more today. I'll definitely be giving it another look.
We actually still missing two games to actually end the whole game story franchise.
I think they are well aware of that and doesn't know what to do...
I just finished EO1 again today. I love this series so much!
Ayo, more Etrian content? I'm eating good.
I do agree Survivalist is pretty Pog in 2U.
Probably my favourite rendition of the class. Usually build them as a gathering/Healing class, where I gather materials, sell for Medica, then bonus healing with medica instead of skill points.
Seriously need to give this series a genuine shot, I played all of the demos on the 3DS and absolutely loved them!
But I wasn't really sold on spending 40$ on an RPG when I was young so I never got the chance to play them for that long.
I do think untold 2's story mode party is a bit less new player friendly than untold 1. In the first untold that party really builds itself, super straight forward. Here are the 3 characters that all deal damage, here's a healer, here's a character that can boost everyone's defense. The 3 dps characters can be built in a way where they all compliment each-other, but if you just build them down there own independent paths, they'll all still be great.
Untold 2's story party is a lot more complicated to build. I don't think that's a bad thing, to be clear. But to use Chloe as an example, a new player isn't going to look at her and think "she's going to be great dps if I race to ailing slash and vampire, especially if I make sure Flavio is heavily invested in his debuff skills". Most new players will just make her a mediocre medic.
Someone: Mentions Etrian Odyssey
Me: Nice
rabbit and steel and one step osts 🗣🗣 also etrian odyssey is so cool seeming but ive never really tried it, maybe ill finally hop in
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Oof, Benny. Poor Benny. He didn't know what he was getting into.
Yay the best channel about Eo series and FE. When a video of team building and skill points of Eo?? Yes please!!!
Persona Q and Q2 were my introduction to an Etrian Odyssey style game.
I really hope they bring the 3ds games to the switch and steam soon
Hey I recognize some of those names.
EO4 was the first I started with and despite it's flaws I tend to also recommend it because it isn't superb. It gives a good baseline and room in both directions.
But that's also based on personal anecdote so I still tend to recommend other EO games.
Also, oh shit, someone else that followed Araxxor's Imperial Only run!
Watchin' this again so the algo says hello
I'm a little disappointed that EO3 HD isnt Untold 3 instead. I did enjoy untold 1 and 2 a lot more because of having a party that isnt generic characters.
personally i couldnt get into Etrian 2 Untold. something about it just made me bounce off of it at or a little after the duo boss fight (i guess it felt too easy). my personal favorite is probably Etrian V, i thoroughly enjoyed that one!
This is my favorite series 2❤❤❤❤
I tried to start with 4 on hardware and dropped it, and that really made sense. Will try with another!
I started with 4, but I had a guide nearby.
Once you're more used to how EO works, it's actually a very rewarding title!
I mainly know these games through the demos that were available on the 3DS eShop. I don't remember being able to beat any of them... but in fairness, I was, like, 12. Now that I have more than one braincell bouncing around up here, maybe I'll give them another shot in... definitely legal and legitimate ways.
Note, there is no Skill Sim for EO2.
it was never made...
And Skill Sims aren't really updated for HD exactly, last I remember.
docs.google.com/document/d/1m5G-ZQvXsmM68TCrSv2bWfKz2SfSc7xq-REfMXMhAEc/edit
Are yes the game that has 5+ titles and has just seen a rerelease to new platforms, not even a year ago.
I enjoyed persona q and q2 so maybe i should try EO out sometime
Id love to know about the other games in the series like X
I only played eo1 untold's story mode, and while I enjoyed it a ton didn't feel much customisation since reclassing felt so grindy bc of the halved level. I assume future games improve matters
I have to ask, where do you get all that nifty official artwork from?
I would like to use the "They came for our jobs!" image, it's quite funny 😄
Thank you!
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I liked original DS mostly because Immunize and Relaxing were so broken. Ofc the flower enemies and the fourth stratum's first floor were pretty frustrating, but I can look past that.
After persona Q, i'm surprised there still isn't a dragon quest one
The sad day for those like me who can’t get the 3DS emulator… because this looks so fun
Never could make it click with this series despite playing most of the games. I typically prefer not to plan ahead since I don't know what enemies come later and that basically forced me to build all rounders. Respeccing I really hated because losing levels means grinding them back up and I really hate grinding. Respeccing for a particular boss also meant that after that boss was done my skillsets would become pretty bad for the next stratum usually.
The game not being forthcoming with its information was also pretty terrible for figuring out if a certain accessory was worth it or not (they are expensive and I hate grinding for money). Or when it's worth putting more points into a skill vs getting more skills.
Also never understood what the difference between legwear, helmets and gloves is.
The series eventually introduced pseudo-tutorials in its Bar facilities, through talking to patrons.
IIRC, legwear supposedly gives you a boost to your action speed during a turn... some weapon types impact that too.
The three types you mention also raise resistance against getting the corresponding body part inflicted with a Bind.
Of course, per series' tradition, they don't give you actual, meaningful values to base your decisions on. Could be 1% for all I know x)
I've beaten 2, 4, and 5, and I still suck at party building. Is it a good idea to pick one "main character" first then pick the other four members around them?
I got into blobbers recently with stranger of sword city but i found out of EO, touched it and i'm struggling to go bact to SoSC.
UNTOLD 3 WHEN?
Unfortunately Japan hated the Untold games...
I like eo1 untold. 4 was my first one. I've never been able to get passed the first stratum of eo2 untold though. Speaking of 1 untold, I don't like the grimoire stones. I wanna see what 1 was like without those damn stones.
Ah yes, the Spinoff series based on Persona Q. My favourite.
Persona Q, aka "What if Persona had actually good, fun gameplay?" You love to see it!
so good that it got the 6th game before persona does
🤔
Yooo based video
Ain't this these games that share the same engine as smt strange journey
If I don't have a 3DS, how do I play Etrian Odyssey 2 Untold
I sub because you sound like the saints row UA-camr flippy. I also sub because you like Etrian odyssey
The DS title was the first?
from looking at the game I thought the DS ones were remakes of something even older
I played 2 and oh boy was it hard
EO3 OST peak
With these games, i always end up making either a shota/loli party or an granpa/granma party with no in-between lol
hey! I've started EO2 Untold, and I can't seem to activate any of my Ronin's abilities? have a few points in the stances, one in Ground Slash but can't use it either. None of the stances are in my ingame battle menu, so I'm not sure where I've gone wrong, if some EO fans could help I'd really appreciate it :)
Do they have a katana equpped? Many skills are weapon dependent
@@badatlife Yeah, they do have the Sasuga equipped. Do I need one of the later ones?
Ground Strike requires you to be in Drawing Stance, which can only be activated by using Sheath Strike. I highly recommend reading the description of every skill your party will have access to.
I missed the active slashes! Sorry for the dumb Q. I really liked your video, love to see someone talking about EO, got me playing it again. Hope you have a great day!
To be honest, EO IV was the easiest to abuse for grinding. The Rare Breed Overworld FOEs can actually be abused to reach high levels…. How do I know? I beat the Final Boss with a level 70 team
EO4 was my first and I humbly disagree. I think it's still one of the better ones to start with. Though Untold 2 is an easy recommend as well.
The gameplay mechanics sound good but I never got into this series despite being an RPG nut because its all in first person perspective. The character art is nice so its a shame that you don't get to see them fight in battle.
It's as simple as imagining them fighting, that's the fun of it imo. The animations can be as simple or ridiculous as you want them to be. Whenever I'm fighting a boss I imagine the fight in my head as it's happening and boy is it a rush.
Maybe you'd like 7th Dragon?
Neat, I have been planning to play these games for a long time
OOF, THAT TITLE HURTS, OWWWWWW
Etrian Odyssey is such a good series. You're over here praising EO2U as the best entry point while I'm over in my friend groups saying how EO2 (and by extension 2u) is one of my least favorites due to the extreme lack of stratum variety (ooo boy i love progressing from a forest to a forest) and i find the games without subclassing much less fun to character build in, even with the advent of grimoires in the untolds. But you made really good arguments and that's awesome. God I love this series.
Meanwhile I started with EOIV, and I'm in love with the exploration aspect, and how you made use of the environment to weaken the Bosses (well 3 of the bosses)
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 IV is my favorite, and the only one in the series i have 100%ed. I tell people to start with III or IV myself. The airship exploration, the environmental puzzles, and the fact 4 has some of my favorite classes easily makes it a top EO for me, even if it is slower
@@kyzo3958 The Speed never bothered me. I didn't even know it was considered an issue until now.
I absolutely loved Links with my Landsknecht. It's so satisfying to pull those long combos.
I don't know if I 100% it, because I didn't beat the final boss's true form, only after weakening it.
And yeah, III with the HD version is the last EO I played, and I like it a lot too!
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 I ain't counting beating an unweakened true final boss as 100%. I meant I got all those profile badges, all over world treasures, full item codex, etc
@@kyzo3958 OK! Well, congrats!
Yeah, I never 100% a EO game then
Still waiting on VI. My favorite is V.
"It definitely makes it easier for less experienced players to use team compositions without things like healers and tanks" I actually disagree with this: Full aggro, particularly lockdown team comps are often easier to _play_ as, because they tend to have the same plan for every encounter, but it would be difficult for a new player to actually land on one thats stable enough to succeed on their own (and some, like say EOV Ma/Pug/Fe/Sh/Nc, still require more specific plans for each fight even if they're also extremely strong). the tank classes, meanwhile, are generally pretty obvious in how to build for them and can allow players to succeed without thinking too much about DPS rotation, because the Tank allows them to prolong fights enough that they don't have to be optimal with that to win.
Forgotten? I don’t think so. After all, it’s Atlus’s only other flagship non SMT franchise with consistent releases. That’s way more than a lot of other Atlus things. **looking at you, Izuna series that was stuck as a duology for years**
Horribly overlooked? Sure.
I compare Etrian Odyssey’s status to something like Touhou. Touhou’s incredibly popular and damn near a cultural icon, but none of that success actually came from the games. It’s quite common to see Touhou fans that have never picked up a Touhou game or a SHMUP in general at that. This is because SHMUPs and Bullet Hells are incredibly niche and specific genres that not too many actually play. Many are too intimidated by all the bullets and precise movement even though your hitbox is miniscule.
Etrian Odyssey's niche status is due to the fact that people will look at dungeon crawling games and write them off immediately. You can see the older Persona games being treated similarly (cutoff is probably OG Persona 4) and even SMT 1 & 2. Double that with how rough Etrian Odyssey is on resources for the first hour and to casual JRPG fans, it's repellent and too frustrating. Meanwhile something like Nocturne sells itself on being hardcore and unfair.
Izuna was made by Success, Atlus just published it outside of Japan.
Playing Etrian odyssey made combat in other RPGs feel boring, unless its Megaten
I don't want to brag, but encourage other people to try these games and have fun with the party composition saying that my first game in the series was the OG Etrian Odyssey 1, and I beat it without a healer
I did that too, though it was the HD version.
I had a Protector, though, so I guess it's not as impressive x)
Distinct lack of EO5 shilling (my favorite one😢)
I will never forgive Atlus for poaching the EO team to work on the turd that was SMTV...
Not a single new EO game for the entire Switch era is criminal
Finally someone says it.
You'd think that would have led to better dungeons in that game, too.
That said, I'd like to see that one "time stop" mechanic from late in the game in an actual EO entry, someday. Not being able to casually run past and jump over enemies would probably help.