Is Pogačar’s Plan Backfiring? + Vingegaard Silences His Critics... - Wild Ones Pro Show TdF Stage 11
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I think Pog and Jonas being radically different in style just makes the rivalry better.
Yeah, I duly agree, pretty impressive from Jonas. If I were to predict based on his performance today, it would be Jonas. I got in a sweat just watching this 😀 I just hope that one of his big lieutenants - being Wout - does not have to drop out. The bike handling is scary ... crashing but not taking a whole peleton with you.
@@wimve4719How he rode up the curb sideways!? Then bailed out. Has to be one of the best bike handlers ever.
@@MattyBrad Yeah, that was crazy, wasn't it? Some of these guys come from cyclo cross, just to name a few Matthieu van der Poel, Tom Pidcock (descending skills are through the roof). These guys learn the ropes - or the bike handling very early. It's crazy. Just look up some Cyclo crosses in Belgium. At times, it's mind-boggling.
Jonas on drugs and Pog not.
@@mclogged2280they all dope
We should be happy that Vingegaard came to this event when EVERYBODY had called him off.
Without him Pogacar would've walked over Le TDF finish line with his bike on his back, smiling.
We owe Vingegaard praise and honor for the true competitive atmosphere he presented. Thanks Anchovy!
True
He's always a dane
Fish man strikes again!
Well said
Vingegaard considered retiring. He thought that he might die after his crash. It's no joke
I don’t think Pogi is loose lipped. He’s actually very considerate to other riders, including Jonas… he’s just honest, and today he gave Jonas his flowers…
brawny will never beat brainy....
@@user-so3zx9pg7n Extraordinary dumb comment. Jonas won because he had better legs yesterday. There was nothing intelligent or smart or anything-just pure watts/kg and good legs. You can be Einstein but if you don’t have the legs you won’t win a bike race.
Its imposible to stay in the shape al year, until now Jonas he s gone a smoking Tadej!
honest? lol! NONE of these dudes are honest, if they were they would ride a clean race.
Remco’s balls were too heavy on the climbs
**YAWN** But were a big advantage on the Time Trial ... getting old. Again based on flash interviews completely taken out of context. In Belgian media he clearly states that he respects the team or Jonas' tactics but was a bit disappointed as he was trying to get into a safe zone and trying to put time into the others. Oh well, haters will be haters I guess.
@@wimve4719 its not at all out of context, the joke is therefore very funny. Bcuz its true. Prepare for your boy to be dropped on the real mountain stages. Big balls 😆
@@wimve4719 You dish it out, you gotta eat it too when served.
TBF I think it's the drag and not the weight that is the issue.
@@Jan-se1nd Yep.
Vingegaard comes from the west coast of Denmark, where "not too bad" should be translated to "freaking amazing" in Copenhagen 😂 he's not on and doesn't care about social medias and yes, he always calls, contracts and mentions his wife and kid first thing after crossing the finish line.
Jonas' wife/manager was marketing manager for Team ColoQuick-Cult when they met, so yeah; he probably is getting some pointers, BUT he really is a family man. First thing he did after winning today was calling his wife and daughter.
He does that after every stage!
I don’t think the media at NBC are as good as you all are. This definitely gives a great perspective, intelligent commentary and well balanced with the joke is so enjoyable. I love the freedom you all keep by only joining with companies that allow you to be original, professional and level headed at the same time. I come to your Chanel first after the TDF. Thanks again for all your hard work.
Pogacar and Vingegaard. What a gift to cycling and what a battle. The entertainment is amazing. Just imagine what TdF would be without either of them
Hindsight is 20/20. If Pog had gained 30 seconds and won the stage we would not be second guessing the tactics. It will be interesting to see how UEA strategy changes based on today's stage.
It won't change at all. They will keep dropping the entire Visma team in the mountains and then it will be mano a mano. At least I hope so.
Your Tour commentary has forced me to subscribed. I've watched your channel for awhile, but the commentary put me over the edge. Simple, complete and easily understood. Emily"s accent is priceless! North Texas home for me.
I loved watching Ving make a race of it not because I'm a fan of his at all, I'm not, but because I'm a fan of cycling races. Pogacar just riding away with this Tour would have been boring. Roglic clearly doesn't have the legs, and Remco, while extremely strong in all other aspects of cycling, clearly isn't the climber that Ving and Pog are. So chapeau to Ving for making us all believe this may actually come down to a close finish at the end.
Can you give Tony proper chair he seem to be on that beach sunbed for some time 😂
ahaha I was thinking the same! His position seems quite uncomfortable
#aproperchairfortony!
😂😂😂
I mean Jonas did the same thing last year. He doesn’t play into the games and sticks to his plan. Just 2 stages ago we were frowning on him and cheering Tadej. But now we’re admiring Jonas’ discipline instead of playing the cat and mouse game.
Yep. Some folks are not loyal. NOT banging out the crew here, just a general statement. For what it's worth I can't stand Little Taddy Boy bc he's gotten so arrogant in recent years. When he was humble, he was cool. Not so much anymore.
P.S. My man in the purple SCOTT shirt sounds EXACTLY like Darren Till. Lol
@@user-xh7rz6sh7t Tadej Pogacar has more spirit, character and class that you will ever have in your whole life. And guess what he's winning the Tour de France!
@@gabrielmazza7923fanboy
@@gabrielmazza7923 Wow, someone is a little sensitive on the subject matter. I did not know that Almighty God was on here. Hey everybody, look, it's Almighty God. He's right here, so pull up a chair and have a chat with him. Calm yourself down now, Little Gabe. Little Tad doesn't need you to come to his rescue. It's all going to be alright so have some warm milk and relax.
We don't admire Jonas' discipline make no mistake about that. We admire the hell of a ride he produced today.
Never seen Pogacar start to eat after a stage like that before.
He was empty, if that last climb was any longer than Pogacar would be in trouble.
And soon the long climbs are coming.
So he better prepare.
I have written this before, that Jonas will ride himself into shape and might beat Pogacar in the last half of the Tour.
Cause that's where the long tough climbs are and the temperature might be warmer.
Today was actually a stage that normally is in favor of Pogacar.
Shorter steep climbs that favors Pogacars explosives over Jonas even hard pace.
And that all the UAE except for Pogacar is blown away on a relatively easy mountain stage as today should worry them.
Same with all the other teams really.
But UAE has on paper the strongest team in the mountains this year.
Abrahamsen will still be riding in the polkadots tomorrow since the only one ahead of him on it is Pogacar in yellow.
And he might go in a breakaway tomorrow to pick a few points on the 3 small climbs to be holding it for a few more days.
He only need 3 points to keep the polkadots until saturdays stage.
They finished the stage 45 minutes before the predicted time. Energy can be managed throughout the stage. If he didn't go hard early and saved energy, he likely would have ended up in the same spot. He was testing Jonas to see truly where he was and they are both very close.
@@CoopMauKona Yes he would probably have ridden with Jonas the entire way then.
And he had to test him.
But you also saw him beaten for the first time in sprint on a mountainfinish by Jonas.
And that he started eating much sooner than normal after the finish.
So Pogacar was on the limit in the end there.
There´s no doubt about that.
But it is so much fun to see that Jonas is up there already.
And Remco and Primoz is not that far behind.
So anything can still happen.
But personally I think that Jonas will just get stronger the next few days.
And be as good or better than last year when we get to the weekend.
Pog said today was not a stage for him, but He is prepared for the high mountains. What do you think?
I don't know who's responsible for strategy-making in UAE and how they're planning for the TdF. Sometimes I feel like it's not that they underestimate Jonas/Visma, it's just that they don't know HOW to plan, plan for the worst. I remembered at one point Pogi said he thought Visma was underplaying their preparation. Then if you know this, you should prepare beforehand! Ride hard but also ride smart. So many issues emerge in E11 today. The timing of the attack, the lack of timely nutrition support, etc. If UAE continues like this without any adjustments, I'm 100% sure Jonas is going to win for the third time this year.
@@1thiago4 we’ll see.
Last year Jonas was better than him in the high mountains, same with the year before.
How can you not like Jonas a decent human being and family man?
These guys are frauds
You can like the person, but not the ‘rider’. For example, if a rider is boring, it doesn’t matter how nice they are.
Jonas is by nature a quite and shy guy. Some ppl just dont like that. And as for him being a boring rider, I guess, thats a matter of taste. Personally I find, I like to see a plan come together (to quote Hannibal Smith), it gives a much more satisfying result than just raw strength. Ofc thats just me, to each their own.
But Tadej, Remco, they will have to learn to ride more with their brains, coz their strength wont last, they get older too. Sure, its entertaining until then. But yeah, I guess, Im just more of a brainy type, just like in my rl.
@@dfuher968 Spoken like someone who is unreliable and boring.
I think Tadej missed his chances in the early stages to get a large lead. It's now going to come down to how well he manages the mountains and if Jonas hits a wall at some point.
Most people in the cloud think exactly opposite, that Tadej waste too much energy on limit gain stage!
It's about tadej hitting a wall no? If he doesn't and manages to stick with Jonas' eventual attacks, he'll win with his minute lead
@@letoatreides5165 Pogacar said that he trained especially for long Pyreneer climbs, I don't expect him to be dropped by Vingegaard this year
@@mracer8 I mean, we had two mountain stages so far, so I don't think he wasted that much energy. Plus he's not stupid, he knows it
Jonas said that it looks like he is responding good and is getting stronger. I think he can grind POG down if he attacks far out. Just a problem he does not have that strong a team in the mountains
To be able to enjoy and follow this epic rivalry between two great champions year after year in the tour de France is something special. The respect and sportsmanship they show towards each other is a great lesson to everyone. Respect and love to both Tadej and Jonas.
I agree, I now see Jonas as a fisherman biding his time playing the long game with his patience and perseverance. Reeling in his prey. Poggy has outted Jonas's strength. Pog needs to save some matches now. It's going to be strategically really exciting now. Can't wait.
That fisher narrative needs to die however good a metaphor it is. He was a rider on the conti team Coloquick (not a full time pro pay) and worked at a fish packing factory part time, a job contact facilitated by Coloquick. But he was a conti team u23 talent on the Danish domestic racing scene already then. Michael Valgreen had the same type of job before he turned full time pro.
@stineagerbk9234 I really didn't mean it in a derogatory manner. Jonas is a brilliant and strong competitor, and I seriously didn't mean my observation in a defining or demeaning manner. I was actually complementing his determination to maintain a workable steadfast pace combined with patience. An angler came to mind, and the fact that he once worked in fishery was purely coincidental. Nobody is mocking him now. 💪
Guess he does have some balls…. 😂
Well at least the bots love you. You’ve made it!
I was delighted with the race. Very much Pro-Jonas seeing him climb is a delight and the way he reeled in Pogi was incredible
just basking in the glow of the "3 week plan and Pog blew up on the sprint and will lose the Tdf". Feels so good!
Tadej and UAE have got some serious nutrition issues. Has been this way for years, how can they not dial in his nutrition? The way his energy levels disappeared are so worrying.
He just goes so hard that he uses more than he can eat. It might be the same for Jonas but to a lesser extent because he is lighter. And Visma seems to know the extent pretty well. Sometimes it seems they know Pogi better than he knows himself.
@@chrisridesbicyclesthey already have an article about it regarding Visma's superior nutrition
I think what makes Tadej great is also what makes him weak. Unlike Jonas who sticks to plans, Tadej relies on instinct. He would be like, "oh this is a good place to attack".
This makes watching him very entertaining but risky at the same time because if he attacks too hard, he bonks.
@@justinemarkdajay7485 Yes, he is sometimes like an hyperactive puppy who just wants to play. Maybe this makes him a better one-day rider than grand tour rider.
@@chrisridesbicycles Strava data proves otherwise, with Pogi using 1k-2k calories "less" than other top riders, during the same stage. Agreed that Jonas' weight loss, and delta vs. Pogi, means Pogi will always be at a handicap vs. Jonas, if they are putting out the same power.
As a half Latino half Danish former license rider, I am so happy that you guys are warming to the quiet charms of Vingegaard (try pronouncing it Vinge-g’aw, like awww cute bu very very short, rather than Vinge-go or g’oh 😉). The approach of talking about yourself and not the opponent, is old-school rural politeness - especially in Jutland where he’s from. “Sweep in front of your own door, before thy neighbour’s” is the saying around there…
I think Pog brings the best out of Jonas. Without Pog, I think Jonas’s tactics become much more defensive. It’s the classic battles like Hinault vs LeMond, LeMond vs Fignon.
It's actually quite the opposite. If you watch Jonas in races outside the TdF, he's actually races more like Pogacar because he knows no one can challenge him.
But I agree they bring out the best in each other, they push each other in ways no one else can. They both win everything else they enter and then they have this big fight once a year.
Jonas looked spent at the end. He was so emotional. This stage may be a sort of consolation prize, a point of pride to get a little something this year. The time trial and other stages have exposed Jonas as clinging on. Reminds h me e if Tadej last year.
That climb got me sweating 😅
Gutsy riding by the top 3. Remco did a great job hanging on to second. Jonas was just incredible . . . What a great response by the Great Dane. UAE’s whole team burned up a box of matches today. Yates, Almaeda, Auyuso, Soler. Jorgenson, Tratnik, Lemmon and Kelderman are holding back until the weekend. They should be fresher than team UAE.
UCI: "Today is officially a rest day for Vingegaard haters"
And… he won the sprint from the front. Pogacar fell for the classic Giro/Tour double trap. Feeling great after winning the Giro then falling apart by week 3 of the Tour.
Go. Go. Go. Go. What a stage. Old school riding. Fricking ace. Come on
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Things could be getting a bit "Salty & Vingegaardy" heading onto Nice.
Loved Jonas's Post ride emotion, totally understandable !
Primoz definitely needs a word with Richie Porte dealing with crashes !
What about Roglic getting the same time as Remco after the crash? When did the 3km rule apply to a non-sprint stage?
Since the organization decided they would try this out in this Tour.
Yeah I agree. That's daft and purely there to limit serious crashes and injuries on a mass peloton finish.
Probably due to the crash?
A brilliant episode as ever… but where is your Lizzy Deignan T-shirt from Emily? J’adore! ❤️
I may be a Pog fan, but I think he just left it a little too late at the finish line, it was uphill. After all the pulling he had done he just waited a little too long to win it at the end, which was his plan all along. He and Jonas dropped all the other riders, he didn't need to beat Vingegaard by much to get the bonus points on the Cat 1 and he thought he would get them at the end as well (and should have). You guys (and all the media) put too much emphasis on who wins by .01 seconds. Pog played a great race (and may have had some mechanical issue as well, but was told that dealing with it would cost him the race). Last year Pogacar lost it in one race in the mountains, this was not the same thing. Jonas is amazing, but Tadej knows it.
Today's stage reminded me a lot of the TT that won Pog his first tour win, but with Jonas in Pog's shoes. Cant quite put my finger on it, but it was amazing to watch
You are doing the best Tour and Giro recaps! Thank you!
Cracking stage!!!!! Jonas getting stronger but Pog has the minute cushion...this is gonna be terrific!!! I don't mind who wins, they're both decent guys and treat each other with respect. Bring it on!!!
Nice podcast. Rooting for Jonas and loving the #tdf24. Watching all the way from Belize.
I love how everyone is an expert in hindsight. If you asked these guys what they thought at the top of Puy Mary they would have said it's a great attack.
Pog should be making the race easier and use his punch at the finish. He is so fun to watch but strategy is playing into JV strengths where he has greater endurance.
I think the reason why UAE was pulling hard was the calculation that up untill know we have all had the feeling that it was in week three Jonas would be most dangerous and 100% "on form" so Pogacar still had a feeling that this stage would provide him with an opportunity to take a little more time.
Had he succeeded in taking another 30 seconds plus seven bonus seconds he would be pretty close to a two minutes lead and many of us would consider that enough for him to hold on in week three. Hell, he might even have taken half a minute more, why not?
It's easy to say now, that Pogacar should not have spent those matches today, but hindsight is 20/20. I don't think it was that wrong to try.
But apparently we have already reached the moment where Vingegaard is too strong to be taken in this way. Now Pogacar has two days to recover and get ready for the weekend. And after the weekend there is four more days to recover before the final three nail biters.
I think Tadej wants to gain significant time to Jonas up to this point because he knew that when the stage when long climbs approached he can possibly lose a lot of time to him. So he is trying to gain a lot to time and limit the damage later on.
A little disappointed in the analysis. It was very brief even tough a lot of things happened. No mentioning of Jonas’ continued struggle on downhills (I hope he gets over it), or Remco and Roglic. I don’t think Vingegaard is 100%, just that his 90% is still good enough to be a contender for the win.
Jonas actually purposefully recovered on the descent. His team told him to recover for the second climb where he caught Pogacar.
what the heck are these 5 bot comments haha
We will see on stages 14,15,19 & 20
How about this, Vingegaard wins the tour. Pogačar burns out trying to follow Vingegaard in the high mountains and even looses 2nd place to Remco in the overall.
Remco is going to be cooked in the mountains.
I think it's gonna be
1. Jonas
2. Tadej
3. Primoz
Remco will crack in the last mountain stages.
Tadej is actually right, that its intelligent for him to be in the lead now. Coz his best stages to gain time on Jonas was San Luca, Galibier, the first TT, the gravel stage and this stage, which was perfect for Tadej. Meaning he now has his best chances to take time behind him. Doesnt mean, he cant take more, but those stages favored him the most, so ofc he had to try to take as much time as possible.
Personally I think, he went too early today. It wouldve been better to wait until the last climb and do as on Galibier. But they mustve felt, they needed more time b4 the big mountains. Coz come the weekend and the Pyrenees, that terrain fits Jonas better, at least the normal Jonas. And the last 3 stages are perfect for Jonas. So if Jonas keeps improving, Tadej may be in trouble, 1:14 isnt much.
But we all knew, this Tour would be decided on the last 3 stages, when the route was announced. The question is, has Tadej banked enough time? And will Jonas keep improving from his injuries?
I love vini but what is expetionnel is this fight betwin two type of racing. The old style more "animal" cycling with many attacks and the "smart one" by thinking when it is the time to attack and to defend. In my opinion no one can compet with the animality of Pogi exept the brain and determination of vini. With his huge injury, I think the presence of vini on the tdf is a victory it self for him. Thanks to the these two monster for giving us one of the best TDF so far in the modern history of TDF.
I do wonder if Tadej is trying goad Jonas into burning matches. His main efforts were either before the rest day or a recovery/flat stage.
Only time will tell of course. But I’m pretty sure Tadej’s comments toward Jonas after the gravel were trying to get him to spend energy.
I’ll be curious how Tadej will race just before the last rest day
I think this is good for Pogacar, so he can't be surprised latter. Like Roglic on last stage in 2020. Now he knows where Jonas is.
I don't agree with a safe 3k on GC stages. Thoughts?
should have let break go and try get time over the top of last climb. forget the bonus seconds try gain it at end with less effort on team
Can we appreciate the messi/ronaldo moment we are having in cycling... They are both amazing
Abrahanson is the polka dots in our hearts
Love you❤
Prioritizing life and family before performance (work, hobby or both) is called Mental Sanity. Otherwise is obsession.
It’s also very selfless. If Ving focused solely on cycling, he’d probably have won as many races as Pog by now. He’s sacrificed a lot of that to give his family the time every family deserves.
@@oliverhunt9362 winning races is not everything in life... no matter what
2:50 I thought he sat down and got out of his saddle a few times because his cranks are so short.
Vingegaard is playing the long game! . no shit Sherlock!
The sad point is that UAE and Pogacar are not learning strategy and nutrition. Two years in a row their power versus strategy did not work. Yes, I enjoy Pogacar style, but Visma is way away on strategy and nutrition, 1 min lead is too little for the last three stages of the Tour, assuming he burns his candles further. Jonas's approach is not to lose more time and strike in the last days of the tour, knowing well that Pogacar has not the patience. We all assumed that Jonas worked hard, and was back on a good performance, otherwise, he would not have joined the Tour, on this stage, he stopped pretending, and he showed that his dedication to the sport paid off. All who like road racing are looking forward to this battle of style.
That was when we thought Pogacar was emptying himself with all these attacks
The lady is very knowledgeable and articulate!
The difference on the line was minute and Poggy could have won just as easily as Vinny and then would you have been questioning Poggy so negatively? I don't think so .
Don't ever let Caraphaz in the break, he once won the giro from the break. I don't think top 10 teams will allow it.
Jonas out sprinting Pogi...what a statement!
Although Pogi has Yellow and polkadots, JA will still wear the polkadot as he is in second place.
If Tadej raced with Jumbo Visma, would they be entirely unstoppable?😂
No, Jonas already has the domestiques he needs. (Sorry, Pogi, couldn't let that juicy possibility lie.)
I still don't get why people are saying that Jonas winning this stage is good for the race. It's not. Pogacar needed to take more time today to keep the gap tight in the end of the three weeks. With this slim a lead, Jonas will win by at least 6-8 minutes in the end. With the form they showed on stage 11, Jonas wil be in yellow if not after stage 14, then 15 at the latest. I think the only thing Pogacar has left going for him is the fact that Visma doesn't have a great team this year. They can't hurt him quite as bad as last year and the year before, but Jonas will take time on him on those longer climbs by a lot.
Jonas is not even a 'bus boy', but being dull doesnt cancel out his ability
Tony, sort that mic out! It's not trying to kill ya! Push it forward a bit and relax. 👍
My question is: Did Pogacar's Giro win only one month ago incur enough deep fatigue to slow him down in the second half of the Tour? He has more than a minute lead, and he knows how to maintain it, but the human body, even Pogacar's, can only do so much, then it shuts down in self-defense.
Pog rode the Giro at about 80%, but yeah it is still a lot of mileage so dunno
Left shoulder reconstruction and 26 years later reverse left shoulder replacement all from a defective bike it takes MEGA BALLS to get back on the bike again
Jonas sent two messages today to the race leader first by reeling Pog in slowly, second by beating him in the sprint by a hair. Pog may respond by expending/wasting even more energy in coming days so Jonas can continue to reel in the gap seconds - I predict the final time trial will decide the winner.
this would be awesome live
In the US it is live on the Peacock network.
@@ronaldmcyr156 sorry, I mean this podcast/show
Best podcast I've heard in a while, you guys crushed
This is silly talk. They talk as if only Pog lost energy today. I think the effort of Jonas to be able to come back up to Pog has cost him sooo much more energy. Same for Remco to stay somehow in touch with the other two.
jonas does need someone to break the wind for him. I'm so glad Jonas won the stage
Loving the Pro Show but why is Tony doing it lying down? 😁
The ONE day I'm not watching, something happens....
mvdp vs wva on the breakaway
His crank is shorter this year , by a large marin, no way to sprint as fast
maybe if pog's crank >170mm he would have won that sprint
Fluff up of the day for tomorrow: It was Vollering sprinting against ELB, not Kopecky, despite SDWorx attempts to only support Lotte Kopecky, Demi Vollering is their real GC rider. Also, it's Saraya Paladin, not Paladin Saraya. ;)
Also, if there's a properly steep stage, Vollering wins it in the mountains, in her sleep. Sorry.
Um, Vollering is not in the race
@@miche_amico Perhaps my fluff up of the week, then. :P
I assumed Lotte would be in the World Champions jersey.
Vineys got this
I feel like if Tony sat upright his voice would change. That man is Laaaaaaid back
"There's no massive time gaps gained today... ". Only amongst the top four. They pretty much dropped everyone else.
4000m elevation in 4 hours and the average speed is above 40km/h.. this is insane
Pogacar could not win the sprint because he was exhausted, at least, he looked that way. He is attacking too much and is burning up his team and himself. Vingegaard just plays it smart, period. This TDF is not over yet...
Where were UAE tactics today?
Pog should be riding up to a team mate.
Not alone in the wind.
Exactly! that's probably why Jonas did not follow after that first attack, he knew Pog was gonna ride away from him.
I really don't get it. Nobody is questioning this? Or is absolute normal, that you get severely injured, and you have to put all your energy into the rehab and shortly afterwards you train for a few weeks, instead of a serious preparation for THE BIGGEST CYCLING RACE of the year, and just like this you race one of the best athletes in this sport in his absolut top form and win a stage like that??? Come on, really? This sounds not suspicious??? 😂😂😂
UAE should play defensive with Pog and bring either Almeida, Yates or Ayuso back to GC contention
Too late for that
The media look too quickly at time gains and losses. The tour is about cumulative fatigue to the GC riders and the team. Despite not getting a bigger lead, UAE have forced the other teams to work harder than they would have. Maybe on another day, Jonas would have gotten back 1 minute on this stage, whereas today he only get 1 second. Pogacar is riding how he needs to ride to pressure a pure climber like Jonas.
The whole "I learned more about Jonas in the last 24 hours" comment is wild tho... like good job, but ALL that information has been there for years. He was even on GTCC etc, and all of these "family man" takes is wild, when this has been a focal point in every interview he's done since hitting the big stage. Like, every damn interview. Also internationally. But nice job finally catching it. ;)
I don’t think there is a single presenter covering the tour who knows how to pronounce vingegaard
From what I have heard I would agree. That said, the definitive version would have to come from JV himself and I think he has other things on his mind just now!
Don't forget the only reason Ving caught Pog was due to Roglic helping him on the decent.
The ONLY reason? Did they catch Pog on the decent?
Testing of Jonas should be over. No more attacks. Tadej has a minute over Jonas and needs to use his team. Having 5 solid mountain climbers needs to be used for something. Who cares for Ayuso or Yates being 7 or 9. The Pérennes stages need to be défensive. Sit and wait for Jonas to attack
For sure Ayuso and Yates care, and therein lies the problem. They aren't going all out for Pogi.
Calling Cort for the win
Er no pog still has a healthy lead deep respect to vinneguard for that great ride but he is going to have to crack pig to win