Great meth... If you take 6M Euros is not a lot compare to other sports... lets say average salary QB in American football is 55M per season... Tennis, football, baseball, basketball.... Those all make much much more than 6M a year... Someone like Pogacar (GOAT) if transferred into a different sport with same amount of winning would make 150+ Million per season, calculate that per week, day and an hour... Just saying!
Mike here! I'm not riding this bike a lot. It holds up just fine in the city, ocasional curb didn't hurt it 😊 I know it's not so great idea, but if it fails I'll just build another one! It's great fun for long evenings 😂 No hard feelings for "bodge" I think this wheels look sick! P.S. the animal is my last name 😂 I just spared you trying to read "zwierz" (whitch is animal in Polish) Edit: Everyone please just listen to the experts and have proper wheels for your safety. All the best!
No surprise. Two words: *TV Revenue* NFL: $7.2b MLB: $1.5b NBA: $2.6b NHL: $600m MSL: $90m CFL: $40m 🚴: $?? Sponsorship and endorsement revenue are highly correlated with TV Revenue.
My buddy once draped all his rain soaked gear over our hotel room AC trying to dry it off faster... the water shorted out the AC in the middle of the night and it was so hot we just had to lay there sweating till the AC dried enough to work the next day 😂
We had a big storm yesterday, which I rode home from work in. Your tip about shoe drying reminded me that my shoes were still soaking downstairs. Thanks!
Since salaries are based on sponsorship money, then the entry of Red Bull and XDS is a good sign for the cyclists. The bigger name sponsors entering the sport would mean cyclists would be paid more down the line.
About Strava Family Plan...if you're currently a subscriber, you have to cancel your subscription, go to free status, before starting the family plan before your next subscription payment is made. So timing is critical to avoid losing subscriber benefits while waiting for your anniversary to show up. Strange marketing strategy...
So cool that I got a Hack on the channel. ;) And yes lucky it was just a hour ride so not to smelly. I only have one so far so saved me a washing and long drying cycle. Thanks for showing it on the channel.
I loved your calculation of Pogi's daily salary, but hey, he's paid not to sit in the office, but to ride his bike. You see where I'm going with it, right? According to Strava, he has ridden 11865 km in 2023, spending 314 hours in the saddle. Let's assume for a moment that all his rides were recorded, and that his average cadence across all rides is, say, 80 rpm (assuming some freewheeling is involved). This means he has performed 314x60x80=1695600 crank revolutions, earning almost 4 euros per crank revolution.
Hey, that nice Orbea e-bike reminds me that we need to see Dan refurbish his cool old Raleigh moped. And I was never a fan of mopeds but that one is an exception. 50cc Honda Dax guy here half a century ago as an American teen in West Germany and I might buy the new 125cc Dax when it reaches us in the States. 😀
There isn't just a discrepancy amongst the world's top athletes based on salary, but also, frankly, bang for buck/danger money/effort. Ronaldo vs Pog? 90mins jogging around a pitch falling over, wailing, winking, missing every free kick he insists on taking, versus 6hrs in the saddle, in all weathers, burning 8000 cals, descents at up to 120kmh, idiot spectators, idiot motorbikes, and what's more, repeating it each and every day for three long weeks. Night and day difference in bang-for-buck. $220m/yr for Ronaldo is a joke. And don't get me started on the golfers.
As with everything, effort or skill isn’t the deciding factor at the end of the day. If the sport brings in more money, the players are paid more. Simple as that.
Using some of your arguments, why not the same salary for all cyclists? Same risk, identical load of work to be in a race... I'm not a fan of football, but it's a bit childish to compare salaries this way. Athletes make money based on sport industry they're in. Like I said, I'm not a football fan, but I admit that football (and other sports) are a bigger industry than cycling. Maybe if people start paying to be on the side of the road to see a bike race, like people pay to get in stadiums, cyclists can earn more 😅
@@bdkraem Exactly. And the salary is just the beginning. There's merchandising, product advertising, product endorsements and other brand promotions. Given the popularity of soccer vs cycling, the soccer players are going to pull down vastly more.
CAPTION: When the yellow jersey wonders if the polka dots is climbing or just posing for the cameras, while the green jersey is already planning his next coffee stop.
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Hope you"ll crunch some numbers on tdf stats for the next show. As far as I know Jonas and Tadej have now finished 1 and 2 on a record 12 tdf stages. Previous record 9 stages back in 1929-31 I think. And finishing 1 and 2 in the GC four times should be a new record. Might even be some sort of record in Jonas, Tadej and Remco finishing in the top 3 on 4 stages in this Tour but I can't find any numbers to support that
#CaptionCompetition: "Yes Tadej, your coin did disappear, but you have to choose a fist!" I'm impressed by Dan's lyrical wit on this one. However, I almost had to flee from the room. Not because of Dan's performance (which I was able to endure), but rather because I once had the bassline from Stuck in the Middle With You looping in my head almost repeatedly for several months.
We know that some ex-pro cyclers end up as GCN presenters. What do ex-mega-pro cyclists like TdF riders do once they decide they're done with racing as a career?
Pinot retired to play around on his hobby farm, didn't he? Even on a few million a year, with good financial planning it's plenty enough to never work again in your life if you don't want to.
@@cptjeff1 There has only been a few riders who have made over $2 million. Sadly, more than half will be taken by taxes, another chunk by inflation, plus most riders maintain two homes and if your wife leaves, there goes another big chunk and you think you can make it last 50 years. Good luck with that.
It all makes sense to me. Regardless of the difficulty of the sport of love of the person, it comes down to - how much money do they bring into the sport ( or the sport brings in itself)? Sports like Basketball, both Football sports, Baseball, all try to maximize profit through TV, sponsors and retail. Cycling (similar to Triathlon) can't seem to make that connection. Where can I get a Tadej UAE jersey? Who can even find a Colnago to buy (definitely not in the US)? AND... Many of the team sponsors have little to do with cycling, so there is a big loss there - ( Visma is a business software) Yes it brings in a good chunk of money for contracts but it restricts the bigger potential for contributions to the sport.
Congratulations to Freddy Energizer, the first proposal in hacks/bodges... that's a beautiful classical guitar there, near the bike. I'm splitting my time between these two hobbies as well. Nothing accompanies better a cycling sprint than a fugue by Bach :)
Speaking of getting paid for cycling could I ask Conor a question please. You retired from pro cycling at a relatively young age, was that pure economics in that long term you could make more money as a presenter or had you lost the desire for the life of a pro? Thanks
That wage comparison is crazy. Obviously the exposure of football worldwide accumulates billions in revenue compared to cycling, but Tadej and the peloton sacrifice more through their training time and perform more competitive hours/days annually more than a footballers. Cyclists should earn more for sure, way more impressive athletes.
I wonder if the designer of that orbea e-bike ever used it? The front lights are behind the front rack, which compromises the volume of whatever you might want to carry. Silly, isn't it?
While you guys were talking about the top speed you did back in the day, it got me wondering…..what causes speed wobbles, why do they happen to us mere mortals, do they happen to the pros, how can you avoid them when you’re trying to go fast and how can you stop them when they occur? I’ve had a few pucker moments and would prefer to not have anymore!!!
Yes, Isla Bikes are relatively light and that's excellent. In my day kids were drooling over the dreadful 18kg + Raleigh Chopper; a real pigs breakfast of a bike in my opinion. And there's still a market for this travesty of a bicycle, which is on sale again, presumably as a yacht anchor?
Great analysis. Still think ladies are totally underpaid. Would also like to know what the total “cost to company” per rider would be if one includes all equipment and support needed per rider.
Still struggling to not have Dan on Eurosport / ESPN - how I miss GCN live cycling....... The salaries are about what I'd expect. Good salaries but a drop in the ocean compared to football, tennis, golf and Dan. But if cycling is your passion, anyone young enough to would take a salary to pursue it as a profession. It's also not a bad thing to go on your CV even if you were the worst pro bike rider ever.
Market forces. If people are prepared to offer them such money, why not take it? They might redistribute it via charities or offshore it for their own gain
Cyclists are grossly underpaid but it is difficult to make the formula work. Can't sell tickets in general. Merchandise is limited. And while it is "cool" to wear a replica Lebron James Lakers jersey. No serious cyclists would be caught dead wearing a UAE team kit on the club ride unless maybe if they had 3% body fat and were the fastest in the club. Never ever a WC jersey. Possibly a replica bike but those have become so outrageously expensive few can afford one. Additionally, while football clubs can sell for $billilons cycling teams are always on the verge of failing. Remember Jumbo Visma last year??
We tell ourselves that, as a society (wherever you live), we can’t afford this or that - education, health care, clean energy. And yet, we somehow can always afford to entertain ourselves. These outlandish salaries, in cycling and in other sports, are a good example of our societal priorities. Its pretty sad.
Yet here you are commenting/supporting said sports. The players pay taxes. Education, Health care, clean energy are the domain of government and businesses. There are those that will make the sacrifices need to rise to the top and can be richly rewarded. Some don't. What's the problem? Don't like this system, move to China.
People have to want to do the work. Everyone working in pro-cycling is doing a kind of dream job where they get to participate in something they are passionate about, from the riders, to the mechanics, to the chefs, to the camera operators. The fields you mentioned include a lot of really hard work and turnover. Everyone doesn't have children or require a lot of medical care either.
@@christill I know. Outside of capitalism people don't have the choice to do stuff like the TdF because it can't exist. They have to do things that need to be done instead.
Since it's free to be a spectator unlike basketball etc, I'm not surprised, there's also missed revenue when it comes to jersey sales etc. compared to other sports.
I’m still mad that the chips guy got all the attention and the guy with the road flare got ignored and got away with it. Chips in your face is a mild annoyance compared to a road flare in your face at 99 HR max!
Cycling has a core problem financially in that the money is only from sponsorships because the sport doesn't take place in a closed stadium where you can sell tickets. And it's not a great TV sport, either. Hours with minimal to no real action, the star riders who ultimately win the race aren't usually crossing the line first. And personally, I'm totally unwilling to buy team merch because I refuse to wear corporate branding like that. The sponsors being plastered over everything makes it something I wouldn't ever be willing to wear. Same with soccer merch. I only ever buy national team stuff (and would buy more if US Soccer wasn't so set on wearing freakishly ugly crap). Back to cycling, because teams aren't based anywhere, and with sponsors in the name often don't have any real fixed identity apart from their sponsor, you just can't develop particularly strong or dedicated fanbases for a team. Team loyalty is highly conditional, people root for riders, so good luck selling team merch. Maybe if they tried putting names on the back and printing the race numbers on rather than pinning them on. Honestly, that professional cyclists can make as much money as they do is a miracle.
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Did any of these salaries surprise you? 💸
Nope. Pro athletes are overpaid. Some more than others.
@@paulgrimshaw8334 do you think there should be a salary cap? How much if so?
Great meth... If you take 6M Euros is not a lot compare to other sports... lets say average salary QB in American football is 55M per season... Tennis, football, baseball, basketball.... Those all make much much more than 6M a year... Someone like Pogacar (GOAT) if transferred into a different sport with same amount of winning would make 150+ Million per season, calculate that per week, day and an hour... Just saying!
forget Pog, question is if Dan sponsored by mineral water company!
@@feedbackzaloop Just normal water from now on!
Mike here! I'm not riding this bike a lot. It holds up just fine in the city, ocasional curb didn't hurt it 😊
I know it's not so great idea, but if it fails I'll just build another one! It's great fun for long evenings 😂
No hard feelings for "bodge"
I think this wheels look sick!
P.S. the animal is my last name 😂 I just spared you trying to read "zwierz" (whitch is animal in Polish)
Edit: Everyone please just listen to the experts and have proper wheels for your safety. All the best!
If it fails, you could end up being Mikethevegetable.
Loved the reasoning behind your last name! Thanks for commenting - hope the wheel holds up! Dan
@@Still_Dracco I just won't argue that these wheels are safe.
I'll go with: DON'T TRY THIS! Not at home, nor on the streets!
Safe or not the wheels look superb!
They get paid? I ride my bike so I can eat tacos and stay in the Army.
Everyone has their motives 🤣... more importantly, what's in the Tacos?
@@gcn meat, cilantro, diced onion, and a squirt of lime. That’s all that needs to be there.
I ride to eat cake. Will ride twice and eat the tacos too
Makes those fatty cakes easier to burn 😂
It's fun and you get to eat something extra. Great minds think a like
Caption: "Hey, Jonas, if we just keep our arms like this then he won't get far ahead!"
With his hair brushed like that, it looks like Conor is going to have his school photo taken
Extra cheesy especially with that fresh clean yellow shirt
Caption: Deal, Biniam. You kiss Pogacar, I pay the 200.
No surprise. Two words: *TV Revenue*
NFL: $7.2b
MLB: $1.5b
NBA: $2.6b
NHL: $600m
MSL: $90m
CFL: $40m
🚴: $??
Sponsorship and endorsement revenue are highly correlated with TV Revenue.
My buddy once draped all his rain soaked gear over our hotel room AC trying to dry it off faster... the water shorted out the AC in the middle of the night and it was so hot we just had to lay there sweating till the AC dried enough to work the next day 😂
What a legend!
But did the clothes dry in time?
#CaptionComp: Jonas, you guys can't do 'rock paper scissors' for the yellow jersey.
We had a big storm yesterday, which I rode home from work in. Your tip about shoe drying reminded me that my shoes were still soaking downstairs. Thanks!
hope they are drying up!
Caption:
Jonas: Mountain!
Biniam: Speed!
Tadej: Why not both?
Both jasper and bini are speed
Calm down. Bini isn't on legend status. Lol. Don't put his name with them guys
Since salaries are based on sponsorship money, then the entry of Red Bull and XDS is a good sign for the cyclists. The bigger name sponsors entering the sport would mean cyclists would be paid more down the line.
Caption : Jonas and Biniam discover that Pog beats scissors, paper, two rocks, and just about everything else.
About Strava Family Plan...if you're currently a subscriber, you have to cancel your subscription, go to free status, before starting the family plan before your next subscription payment is made. So timing is critical to avoid losing subscriber benefits while waiting for your anniversary to show up. Strange marketing strategy...
Caption contest:
"Me awkwardly being there when my friend greets one of his friends in public"
Caption for picture of Jonas and Biniam fist bump: "Wonder Twin powers, activate!"
CAPTION: Bini says "that jersey is really not your colour jonas, you've always looked better in yellow" Jonas smiles , Pogi shakes head
#captioncompetition: Tadej's running a gold chain
GCN, please tell us that youre doing the Zwift Academy videos again. Last year's coverage was awful and I missed you guys.
Caption: (JV to Biniam) Make sure you get a bite of crisps on this stage!
Absolutely love the new and sharp 4k video for GCN!🎉❤
Cheers for my "hack" I made the spacers many years ago....last week I was getting a bike fit check and got a new pair of Lake shoes and proper shims 😅
Caption : I take the polka dot you take the green? DEAL!
#captioncompetition Pogacar; “This Spotty-Green energy connection makes my hair stand on end.”
So cool that I got a Hack on the channel. ;) And yes lucky it was just a hour ride so not to smelly. I only have one so far so saved me a washing and long drying cycle.
Thanks for showing it on the channel.
caption:
bini: i like your jersey
jonas: i like yours too!
tadej: i also have a jersey 😝
Caption Comp: Girmay: "Eyy you're wearing yellow... nice nudge on Pogi"
I loved your calculation of Pogi's daily salary, but hey, he's paid not to sit in the office, but to ride his bike. You see where I'm going with it, right? According to Strava, he has ridden 11865 km in 2023, spending 314 hours in the saddle. Let's assume for a moment that all his rides were recorded, and that his average cadence across all rides is, say, 80 rpm (assuming some freewheeling is involved). This means he has performed 314x60x80=1695600 crank revolutions, earning almost 4 euros per crank revolution.
wow! good pay if you can get it!
Hey, that nice Orbea e-bike reminds me that we need to see Dan refurbish his cool old Raleigh moped. And I was never a fan of mopeds but that one is an exception. 50cc Honda Dax guy here half a century ago as an American teen in West Germany and I might buy the new 125cc Dax when it reaches us in the States. 😀
Congrats to the three winners of the Swytch e-bike conversion kits. Signed, a super jealous fellow viewer. 😀
When there's no mega TV deals, no paying spectators, where do you think the income streams are?
There isn't just a discrepancy amongst the world's top athletes based on salary, but also, frankly, bang for buck/danger money/effort. Ronaldo vs Pog? 90mins jogging around a pitch falling over, wailing, winking, missing every free kick he insists on taking, versus 6hrs in the saddle, in all weathers, burning 8000 cals, descents at up to 120kmh, idiot spectators, idiot motorbikes, and what's more, repeating it each and every day for three long weeks. Night and day difference in bang-for-buck. $220m/yr for Ronaldo is a joke. And don't get me started on the golfers.
Pay has never been a proportional measure of performance.
As with everything, effort or skill isn’t the deciding factor at the end of the day. If the sport brings in more money, the players are paid more. Simple as that.
Using some of your arguments, why not the same salary for all cyclists? Same risk, identical load of work to be in a race... I'm not a fan of football, but it's a bit childish to compare salaries this way. Athletes make money based on sport industry they're in. Like I said, I'm not a football fan, but I admit that football (and other sports) are a bigger industry than cycling. Maybe if people start paying to be on the side of the road to see a bike race, like people pay to get in stadiums, cyclists can earn more 😅
@@bdkraem Exactly. And the salary is just the beginning. There's merchandising, product advertising, product endorsements and other brand promotions. Given the popularity of soccer vs cycling, the soccer players are going to pull down vastly more.
I read this in the voice of Ollie Bridgewood
CAPTION: When the yellow jersey wonders if the polka dots is climbing or just posing for the cameras, while the green jersey is already planning his next coffee stop.
Caption: “The Three Musketeers of the Cycling World: Battling for glory, but still fist-pumping each other!” 🚴♂👊
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Thank you! Dan
Caption comp:
Jonas: “thought I would wear my yellow jacket”
Bini: 🤛
Pog: 😒
Caption contest: “You thought I wouldn’t notice the vest, Jonas?”
#Caption "Good luck, green jersey" "You too polka dots" "What about me??" "No luck for you"
Hope you"ll crunch some numbers on tdf stats for the next show. As far as I know Jonas and Tadej have now finished 1 and 2 on a record 12 tdf stages. Previous record 9 stages back in 1929-31 I think. And finishing 1 and 2 in the GC four times should be a new record. Might even be some sort of record in Jonas, Tadej and Remco finishing in the top 3 on 4 stages in this Tour but I can't find any numbers to support that
Very best wishes to the Afghani ladies at the Olympics 🥇🥈🥉
I imagine their lives are even more at risk than even the standard pro cyclist.
Caption competition: By their powers combined, the cycleteers attempt to summon Captain Planet.
#caption: (JV to B) May the best man win!
(T) Didn’t anyone tell you he already did?
#CaptionCompetition: "Yes Tadej, your coin did disappear, but you have to choose a fist!"
I'm impressed by Dan's lyrical wit on this one. However, I almost had to flee from the room. Not because of Dan's performance (which I was able to endure), but rather because I once had the bassline from Stuck in the Middle With You looping in my head almost repeatedly for several months.
We know that some ex-pro cyclers end up as GCN presenters. What do ex-mega-pro cyclists like TdF riders do once they decide they're done with racing as a career?
Interesting! Lets see what happens with Cav 👀
Pinot retired to play around on his hobby farm, didn't he? Even on a few million a year, with good financial planning it's plenty enough to never work again in your life if you don't want to.
@@cptjeff1 There has only been a few riders who have made over $2 million. Sadly, more than half will be taken by taxes, another chunk by inflation, plus most riders maintain two homes and if your wife leaves, there goes another big chunk and you think you can make it last 50 years. Good luck with that.
Podcasts (Armstrong & friends, Horner), bankruptcy (Wiggins), bicycle training holidays, cafes, hotels, team directors, fitness trainers
Sad to know that Lance Armstrong is still a millionaire...
Caption Pogacar caught in the impact zone as they activate their wonder powers.
It all makes sense to me. Regardless of the difficulty of the sport of love of the person, it comes down to - how much money do they bring into the sport ( or the sport brings in itself)? Sports like Basketball, both Football sports, Baseball, all try to maximize profit through TV, sponsors and retail. Cycling (similar to Triathlon) can't seem to make that connection. Where can I get a Tadej UAE jersey? Who can even find a Colnago to buy (definitely not in the US)? AND... Many of the team sponsors have little to do with cycling, so there is a big loss there - ( Visma is a business software) Yes it brings in a good chunk of money for contracts but it restricts the bigger potential for contributions to the sport.
I typically have a couple of mineral waters while watching. :)
Best wishes to Yulduz and Fariba. Not just for a great result in Paris but for the future.
Stay safe and prosper doing what you love.
Caption: "Bini and Jonas are best friends forever, not just Tadej." 😀
Caption: "Hey Bini, if we do this about a foot higher next time, I might have a chance of winning"
I use "news"paper stuffed in my shoes to speed up drying.
tried and tested!
Congratulations to Freddy Energizer, the first proposal in hacks/bodges... that's a beautiful classical guitar there, near the bike. I'm splitting my time between these two hobbies as well. Nothing accompanies better a cycling sprint than a fugue by Bach :)
#caption competition:- Jonas:- Green lantern together we can defeat yellow. Biniam:- Hulk smash. Tadej :- Hey guys I'm stood right here .
Caption competition: Cervelo, Colnago, Cube! It's Morphin time!
Caption contest: Jonas: Hey Biniam! Would you like to be a Puncheur?
Kudos to Connor for doing his job and From the looks and sound of it. sick as a dog💪🤟
Nice is nice.
Also, have y'all ever done the Triple Bypass in Colorado?
caption: Pog "hey Bini, you do know the visma lease-a-bike vest isnt the yellow jersey right? I'm winning the race, not Jonas!"
Magnus Cort is epic. First, he has the best stache. Then it is blue!! Let’s see a history of the best facial hair ever! Dan should be a top contender!
Caption: Hey Jonas! You may not have the yellow jersey but you have the polka and a yellow vest!
Speaking of getting paid for cycling could I ask Conor a question please.
You retired from pro cycling at a relatively young age, was that pure economics in that long term you could make more money as a presenter or had you lost the desire for the life of a pro? Thanks
That wage comparison is crazy. Obviously the exposure of football worldwide accumulates billions in revenue compared to cycling, but Tadej and the peloton sacrifice more through their training time and perform more competitive hours/days annually more than a footballers. Cyclists should earn more for sure, way more impressive athletes.
I wonder if the designer of that orbea e-bike ever used it? The front lights are behind the front rack, which compromises the volume of whatever you might want to carry. Silly, isn't it?
Caption Contest: Now we all have waxed Chain , Yes! Thanks Ollie
I thought Boston Celtics' Jayson Tatum's new 320M for 5years contract was top of the tier list.
#captioncompetition when you watch your enemies teaming against you but you're still winning
34k per year for being in the tour is wild
#captioncompetition "If we hold our arms here, Tadej can push us along"
While you guys were talking about the top speed you did back in the day, it got me wondering…..what causes speed wobbles, why do they happen to us mere mortals, do they happen to the pros, how can you avoid them when you’re trying to go fast and how can you stop them when they occur?
I’ve had a few pucker moments and would prefer to not have anymore!!!
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Yes, Isla Bikes are relatively light and that's excellent. In my day kids were drooling over the dreadful 18kg + Raleigh Chopper; a real pigs breakfast of a bike in my opinion. And there's still a market for this travesty of a bicycle, which is on sale again, presumably as a yacht anchor?
Are we able to join in Australia to view the documentaries ?
You sure are!
Great analysis. Still think ladies are totally underpaid. Would also like to know what the total “cost to company” per rider would be if one includes all equipment and support needed per rider.
Simp
When you get pay that kind of money regardless, EPO and blood transfusions.
You guys know how it works
#captioncompetition - "Biniam ... can I get a charge of the Green Lantern ring?"
Me: I wonder if it makes you pee pink
Dan: don’t be concerned after going to the toilet, you’re not dying
Well then
Still struggling to not have Dan on Eurosport / ESPN - how I miss GCN live cycling.......
The salaries are about what I'd expect. Good salaries but a drop in the ocean compared to football, tennis, golf and Dan.
But if cycling is your passion, anyone young enough to would take a salary to pursue it as a profession. It's also not a bad thing to go on your CV even if you were the worst pro bike rider ever.
Footballers should be taxed at 98% to get their earnings down to something that better reflects their contribution.
Conor, put your Whoop on the right way round mate 👍
caption:
oh we are SO back
“Si is our LeBron James…” I’m guessing he’s not on the same salary though?
andy even the nba players on bench sometime playing 1 or 2 minuts a game wins way more than pogacar.
Caption. Super heros unite! The Mighty Morphin Pogacar Riders.
These salaries are utterly ridiculous. This coming from a huge soccer and cycling fan
Too much?
Well as a fan, you're the one paying them.
I’m soccer and cycling fan as well!
@@Ian_Laing
I'm Spartacus!
Market forces. If people are prepared to offer them such money, why not take it? They might redistribute it via charities or offshore it for their own gain
And note, John Rahm only gets paid to win...that isn't a problem for Tadej but it is a unique part of golf, win or go broke.
Surprised: YES
Do they earn the money: ABSOLUTELY
Too many other sports are just paying too much money for what you get, want me to name one, I could name many sports but I wont.
Caption: Tough guys, Tuft guy.
Cyclists are grossly underpaid but it is difficult to make the formula work. Can't sell tickets in general. Merchandise is limited. And while it is "cool" to wear a replica Lebron James Lakers jersey. No serious cyclists would be caught dead wearing a UAE team kit on the club ride unless maybe if they had 3% body fat and were the fastest in the club. Never ever a WC jersey. Possibly a replica bike but those have become so outrageously expensive few can afford one. Additionally, while football clubs can sell for $billilons cycling teams are always on the verge of failing. Remember Jumbo Visma last year??
Why are they underpaid? Relative to whom? Football players? Nurses?
@@whatwelearned the tdf is one of the most viewed sporting events every year, yet Pogacar makes a bit more than the average premier league player.
@@pierrethetrex6106 It's almost as if what you mentioned isn't the be-all-and-end-all
@@pierrethetrex6106 Is it one of the most viewed though? This gets repeated every year, but is it?
@whatwelearned nearly all other pro sports figures. The video was not comparing against normal jobs.
We're in the UK.... as you are ! What happened to the GB£ ???
You must really love cycling to be paid $6 million (+ sponsorships) as the top athlete in this sport. The pain isn't commensurate for the average pay.
We tell ourselves that, as a society (wherever you live), we can’t afford this or that - education, health care, clean energy. And yet, we somehow can always afford to entertain ourselves. These outlandish salaries, in cycling and in other sports, are a good example of our societal priorities. Its pretty sad.
Absolutely correct.
Yet here you are commenting/supporting said sports. The players pay taxes. Education, Health care, clean energy are the domain of government and businesses. There are those that will make the sacrifices need to rise to the top and can be richly rewarded. Some don't. What's the problem? Don't like this system, move to China.
People have to want to do the work. Everyone working in pro-cycling is doing a kind of dream job where they get to participate in something they are passionate about, from the riders, to the mechanics, to the chefs, to the camera operators. The fields you mentioned include a lot of really hard work and turnover. Everyone doesn't have children or require a lot of medical care either.
@@johnmcmahon5225 I have absolutely no idea what you’re saying. We were effectively both criticising neoliberal capitalism. Me in a separate comment.
@@christill I know. Outside of capitalism people don't have the choice to do stuff like the TdF because it can't exist. They have to do things that need to be done instead.
#captioncomp "What am I, chopped liver?"
Since it's free to be a spectator unlike basketball etc, I'm not surprised, there's also missed revenue when it comes to jersey sales etc. compared to other sports.
#caption “Hey that’s the only yellow jersey you’ll wear this year”
I’m still mad that the chips guy got all the attention and the guy with the road flare got ignored and got away with it. Chips in your face is a mild annoyance compared to a road flare in your face at 99 HR max!
Depends on the flavour of chips/crisps
Caption: Jonas looks quite good in yellow maybe il give it him for a stage
Professional cyclists are criminally underpaid and that’s a fact
Cycling has a core problem financially in that the money is only from sponsorships because the sport doesn't take place in a closed stadium where you can sell tickets. And it's not a great TV sport, either. Hours with minimal to no real action, the star riders who ultimately win the race aren't usually crossing the line first.
And personally, I'm totally unwilling to buy team merch because I refuse to wear corporate branding like that. The sponsors being plastered over everything makes it something I wouldn't ever be willing to wear. Same with soccer merch. I only ever buy national team stuff (and would buy more if US Soccer wasn't so set on wearing freakishly ugly crap). Back to cycling, because teams aren't based anywhere, and with sponsors in the name often don't have any real fixed identity apart from their sponsor, you just can't develop particularly strong or dedicated fanbases for a team. Team loyalty is highly conditional, people root for riders, so good luck selling team merch. Maybe if they tried putting names on the back and printing the race numbers on rather than pinning them on.
Honestly, that professional cyclists can make as much money as they do is a miracle.
@@cptjeff1You are absolutely right on all points and still-it is a shame.
How do you become a member of this channel? Trying to watch the old gcn+ shows. Thanks.
Click the "Join" button by the GCN channel name.
hi, if you are on an iPad or iPhone there is a temporary issue where the Join button doesn't display, don't worry though, you can join on a web browser and the membership section appears within the UA-cam app on iPad/iPhone afterwards!
Daniel Lloyd, you've got a lovely singing voice! Who knew?!
we call him "The Nightingale Of Cycling" 🎶
@@gcn 🐦😁
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I'm surprised the salaries are higher than the personal sponsorships
Sorry to be so daft, but I was a member of GCN Plus before it became defunct and now would like to be a member of the new UA-cam channel but can’t figure out how to do it. Please help me! I’ve been to the website, the channel and the shop. Point me in the right direction please