POOR MAN’s CRUCIBLE - SIMPLE DIY $0.00 COST - MSFN

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 11 тра 2016
  • Make an easy to fabricate crucible from fire extinguisher for an aluminum foundry. A Start to Finish Video
    Please subscribe to see more upcoming casting videos. Thanks for Watching!
    MSFN = Makin Sumthin From Nuthin
  • Навчання та стиль

КОМЕНТАРІ • 525

  • @arcosin3861
    @arcosin3861 2 роки тому +42

    Story time! I made one of these like 4 years ago and I was doing some aluminum smelting. It had worked really well in the coal furnace the last two times, and me and a buddy were about to do a third burn. At this point, the steel was quite oxidized, but we weren't all that worried. We got it burning and started melting cans. Suddenly, the fire got much hotter and much brighter out of nowhere! It was so bright, it was hard to look at! The chemistry savvy among you may already know what happened... Iron oxide + aluminum + heat = thermite. Anyways, we turned off our crappy billows and let it burn itself out. In the aftermath we found that the whole bottom of the crucible had melted. As had the sand and plaster bottom of the furnace which had vitrified. Stay safe out there.

    • @autohogar1016
      @autohogar1016 7 місяців тому

      I recently has a similar experiencia. The still in the extinguishers IS not reliable.

    • @DHENZmixVlog
      @DHENZmixVlog 2 місяці тому

      This is crusible can survive for melting Magnalium?

  • @thedoubleboiler6971
    @thedoubleboiler6971 2 роки тому +2

    Seriously. Thank you for no fillers here and just getting straight to the point.
    The average person tries too hard with informative videos when we just want to know what the heck to do.

  • @PastorTonyManuel
    @PastorTonyManuel 8 років тому +6

    I'm glad you were up front and explained how they only last for a bit and then spring a leak. Of all the casting videos I've watched, I haven't noticed anyone explaining that they do not last very long.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому +3

      All crucibles fail at some point. Heat and contamination from the metals you are melting speed that process up. Consider homemade crucibles a "consumable". Be safe & happy casting! :)

  • @wordsandthing
    @wordsandthing 8 років тому +3

    thank you for not only showing all the steps, but for showing other things to use if someone cant get an extinguisher at first.
    i subbed, and i cant wait to start smelting.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words and welcome aboard! Metal melting is great fun...be safe!! :)

  • @Urobam
    @Urobam 4 роки тому +1

    What a great video! Just great video! Thanks for all the information, demonstration, and no music!😘😘😘😘😘😘

  • @briandalrymple9986
    @briandalrymple9986 3 роки тому

    I got plenty of fire extinguishers. I used them whilst making rocket stoves for my Vanuatu friends. I never thought of smelting, but now I want to smelt the brass valves from the rocket stove outers which are lpg bottles, so I might use a used fireman’s breathing tank as it will be thicker.
    I enjoyed your video, many thanks 😊.

  • @JonDeth
    @JonDeth Рік тому +3

    *I've seen people building these for decades, always wanted my own and it looks like this summer I'll get to it.*

  • @BADD1ONE
    @BADD1ONE 3 роки тому +7

    Your wing nut design for pouring is exactly how I pictured making mine. Love the lifter design, exactly how I'm going to make mine (probably from rebar). I have an unused bollard. Its at least 1/4" thick by 4 feet long. I'll cut it and get steel caps welded to the bottom. Many crucibles.

  • @alan30189
    @alan30189 5 років тому +2

    Nice. Thanks for sharing. I like the tool you made to pick the crucible up with.

  • @hrxy1
    @hrxy1 5 років тому +48

    Great vid,noshit music, simple language, direct and to the point.ty

  • @herooftime420
    @herooftime420 Рік тому +1

    We appreciate your wisdom. I'm going to cast aluminum rings with cubic zirconia. This helps a ton thank you

  • @Smitty65721
    @Smitty65721 2 місяці тому +3

    I had a friend who lost 3 fingers when his angle grinder blade exploded. Absolutely a true story. Wear leather gloves, and a face shield, when using that cutting tool. That thing is spinning much faster than you think. You have been advised.

    • @galavizK
      @galavizK 2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks

    • @lindboknifeandtool
      @lindboknifeandtool 2 місяці тому

      Roger that.

    • @annagirlieee5290
      @annagirlieee5290 21 день тому

      Good to know. And will do, as although you may find this a bit strange but I prefer NO disfigurement over some or any.

  • @catsmoke5518
    @catsmoke5518 5 років тому +23

    Thank you for the clarification. Grant Thompson only glosses over the fact he used a fire extinguisher and mentions nothing of the size or making handles. Thumbs up from me for this one buddy...

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  5 років тому +1

      Thanks!!

    • @loganjonah9575
      @loganjonah9575 3 роки тому

      You prolly dont care but if you are bored like me atm you can watch all of the new movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been streaming with my gf lately =)

    • @karsonmaximus3047
      @karsonmaximus3047 3 роки тому

      @Logan Jonah Yea, been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself =)

    • @noahjared1596
      @noahjared1596 3 роки тому +1

      @Logan Jonah yup, have been using InstaFlixxer for months myself :)

  • @justafanmarvel9669
    @justafanmarvel9669 8 років тому +6

    This was a really nice video glad you posted it.. Also I'm very glad that you mentioned that same extinguishers are made of aluminum.. I made that mistake on my first try, luckily I caught it as it was melting and was able to remove it. another thing I have used as a home crucible is a steel pipe nipple with a cap on the end.. this works rather well and lasts a while since its thick steel. Thanks again enjoyed watching this.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому

      Glad you caught your error in time, coulda been worse! Many pressure vessels are aluminum such as some medical oxygen containers. Yes, black pipe works well...be sure & NEVER use galvanized pipe & fittings.tho!

    • @justafanmarvel9669
      @justafanmarvel9669 8 років тому

      No yoy are right I forgot to mention that, yes only black pipe.. never galvanized, sorry took that for granted that people would know that.. wish I was in your neighborhood would love to stop by and see that sand casting demo you were talking about.. did you post it by chance

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому

      If ever in Tampa, FL let me know, you are welcome to drop by. No....I didnt get any video of the sand casting classes as those days are rather hectic & lotsa Q & A and making sure everyone stays safe. Just no time for camerawork. Subscribe if ya think the channel is worthy! :)

    • @justafanmarvel9669
      @justafanmarvel9669 8 років тому

      +Makin Sumthin From Nuthin thankyou I will

  • @glennfelpel9785
    @glennfelpel9785 8 років тому +5

    Thank you for sharing, sometime I hope to make a video and show how I make my crucibles, but I think yours is easier to make.

  • @TheSillentSniper
    @TheSillentSniper 4 роки тому +1

    Great little tools you made i am just trying to figure mine out, gave me some great starting points

  • @RedSeedlesslive
    @RedSeedlesslive 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this!! I use those as tanks for. O2, argon, and nitrous, and now yeft
    another use!

  • @sgibbons77
    @sgibbons77 8 років тому +1

    Excellent video. Thanks for the tips!

  • @goliath257
    @goliath257 8 років тому +3

    Some great ideas there. Thank you sir.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому

      You are very welcome, I hope the videos I put out are helpful to others. Welcome aboard :)

  • @clearnews7344
    @clearnews7344 6 років тому +6

    For a tipping handle you can drill a hole in bottom lip and attach any type handle with bolt and nut, clamp etc.

    • @Stinow
      @Stinow 5 років тому

      True. But it will propably also become hot. A detachable handle would be nicest.

  • @Simple_Jackass
    @Simple_Jackass 6 років тому +2

    Great Video man, thank you for the demonstration...

  • @turbulenteskimo
    @turbulenteskimo 5 років тому +1

    Super informative video. Thanks!

  • @doyoucomply8770
    @doyoucomply8770 8 років тому +4

    Just subbed 👌love the way you explain and the editing love from the UK

  • @kamisama9715
    @kamisama9715 3 роки тому +5

    Simple DIY $0.00 cost
    Materials required: *Rock from Pluto*

  • @DimaProk
    @DimaProk 8 років тому +16

    Lucky you, getting free fire extinguishers. I think I'll end up making mine from steel round or square pipe and have my uncle weld the bottom to it. Love Frankenstein bolts idea :)

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому +1

      That will work too! Now that I have a stick welder I will be keeping my eye out for some scrap pipe as well.

    • @DimaProk
      @DimaProk 8 років тому +1

      My neighbors had two broken basketball hoop stands, I volanteered to "recycle" them and ended up with two main shaft pipes that are about 8 feet tall, at the moment I don't remember diameter but I think it's right size. I think you can find them at Craigslist for free.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому

      Yup, thats a great idea. I get lotsa free stuff off craigslist for my projects. Happy Casting! :)

  • @michaelsanchez8519
    @michaelsanchez8519 7 років тому +4

    great video. while on the subject of fire extinguishers, like you said, not all extinguishers are the same. Far safety reason, people should study FEs and learn which one has the rating for this kind of work. I just think safety is important. Great video again!

  • @ethanbaylis5204
    @ethanbaylis5204 7 років тому +1

    Just come across your channel and I love it, you earned a sub

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому +1

      Thanks Ethan, your subscription means a lot to me. Sometimes I question if my videos have value to others. I appreciate ya! :)

  • @RustyNail5856
    @RustyNail5856 6 років тому +2

    very nice video, great info. thanks for sharing.

  • @gsambolin
    @gsambolin 4 роки тому +1

    Great vid, found this by accident. Glad I did !

  • @scharkalvin
    @scharkalvin 5 років тому +3

    Propane cylinders work too. Be sure to empty the cylinder first!
    The bottom of those extinguishers have a lip, they are not flat. A hooked bit of rod could fit in there for a pour tool.
    I cut some propane cylinders in half with a hack saw, and a sawsall would work too, if you don't have an angle grinder.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  5 років тому

      Yep, they are a good size too 😊

    • @trollforge
      @trollforge 2 роки тому

      I made 2 propane cylinder crucibles, and both failed on their 1st heat, before the aluminium was even 1/2 melted, so, I can't recommend them...

  • @beavis8167
    @beavis8167 8 років тому

    Awsome, I just watched ur making of a foundry and i have been melting for a couple months now. I liked the idea of U using Perlite an Portland cement so i cut my self a propane tanke for my foundry and i used 60 percent cement and 40 percent perlite i HOPE I DIDN'T MESS UP BY DOING THAT ILL KEEP U INFORMED. Its still curring. But i like ur videos alot u explain things well u keep things simple ect not like most of youtubers on this subject. Keep making more videos say if u try to melt steel so us, just saying lol. but keep up the work dude.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому +1

      Thanks DJ, its comments like that that keep me making vids. Wish I got more comments on some of these vids to get a conversation going about casting. Great Hobby! :)
      The perlite is what gives the mixture its refractory capabilities but keep me posted on how 60% works out. For the first few firings once FULLY DRY (dont rush it), it needs to be fully dry so there is no chance of a steam explosion blowing apart the furnace. The 1st firing needs to be on the lowest propane setting you can manage without the flame going out and for just about 5 min, slowly increasing burn time and temp between firings. 5 firings or so is sufficient IMO, then its ready for melts. This purges any excess moisture still in the refractory. Feel free to check out some of the casting videos I have and hope to see you as a subscriber! :)

  • @bernardkapembwa2445
    @bernardkapembwa2445 9 місяців тому +1

    Many thanks. Much appreciation to you.

  • @808tui
    @808tui 5 років тому +1

    .....this is good for beginners , thanks nice video .

  • @americasfavoritehoarder
    @americasfavoritehoarder 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the ideas.

  • @christopherneelyakagoattmo6078
    @christopherneelyakagoattmo6078 7 років тому +1

    I like that you took a few seconds to demonstrate the mock-up.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      Thanks, I have a newer video on making another crucible, its been out about 4 weeks...much better vid if ya wanna check it out. Consider subscribing! :)

  • @davidbermudez7704
    @davidbermudez7704 5 років тому

    So simple thank you

  • @chrispatterson9689
    @chrispatterson9689 3 роки тому +1

    Just imagine if u had a drill press. Btw You helped me out a lot thank you.

  • @Phantomoose
    @Phantomoose 4 роки тому +1

    Thanx for the great advice nice vid

  • @masonparker4473
    @masonparker4473 8 років тому

    great video man you saved me 60$ once again

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому

      Sweet. The aim of the channel is to do things "on the cheap" when it's feasible :)

  • @gerace007
    @gerace007 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video.

  • @rittaslusher2369
    @rittaslusher2369 8 років тому

    made it real clear thank you

  • @stankrieger3137
    @stankrieger3137 3 роки тому

    Now that is simple and very easy to make. keep using the KISS method

  • @kuritech
    @kuritech 8 років тому

    I have a extinguisher that feels like it has a rubber or a plastic covering so I'm not sure if it's aluminum because the magnet doesn't stick

  • @spenchai4729
    @spenchai4729 7 років тому

    Great video mate really enjoyed it

  • @tonebone4454
    @tonebone4454 6 років тому +1

    Great video!

  • @ifitaintbroke7427
    @ifitaintbroke7427 4 роки тому +4

    Awesome idea. One thing I might do differently, well actually just add to what you've done. Would be to hit one end that's 90° out from the bolt holes outward. That way you give the molten metal to sure path from it. Would just allow for easier and more accurate pouring.

  • @clearnews7344
    @clearnews7344 6 років тому +28

    For heavy duty crucible use industrial gas tank.

    • @xXUNKNOWNXx
      @xXUNKNOWNXx 3 роки тому +4

      a full one

    • @wrathmachine7609
      @wrathmachine7609 3 роки тому

      @@xXUNKNOWNXx For better results

    • @trollforge
      @trollforge 2 роки тому

      I have a CO2 tank with a bent valve. I'm going to make a yard bell out of the top 2/3s, a crucible is an excellent idea for the rest!

  • @andrewferg8737
    @andrewferg8737 4 роки тому

    Very informative. Thanks for sharing.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  3 роки тому

      My pleasure!

    • @andrewferg8737
      @andrewferg8737 3 роки тому

      @@MakinSumthinFromNuthin Found a cast iron CO2 extinguisher. Really hard to remove the top. Needed a blowtorch & 2' wrench. Used it for an air compressor tank.

  • @mikefinto4048
    @mikefinto4048 7 років тому +1

    What I use is square tubing I find then for about $3 at the junk yard works better than fire extinguisher

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      Sure, that would work great too. I get fire extinguishers free so.... 🤗🎉

  • @209chevymon
    @209chevymon 4 роки тому

    Can a crucible be made out of the little gas tank in the background i have a couple left over of those thats why im asking thanks for the help

  • @virtualtools_3021
    @virtualtools_3021 4 роки тому +2

    I've used soup cans for aluminium, if you are careful with handling it you can just about get 1 pour out of it. (charcoal furnace)

  • @joshruth133
    @joshruth133 3 роки тому

    Great video

  • @chrisgaylor4024
    @chrisgaylor4024 7 років тому +1

    brand new to the metal melting.. so i have a graphite crucible, just wondering about the procedure for cleaning it. once i melt and pour the metal, do i clean it while ots hot or when cold and whats the best way to go about it.. thanks for any info..

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      I think you will find a pure graphite crucible rather easy to clean out as not much aluminum will stick to it. If its a clay/graphite crucible you can use something fabricated that resembles a bent spoon to scrape out remaining metal and dross while its still hot

  • @4WorldPeace2
    @4WorldPeace2 3 роки тому +1

    Would the crucible grave yard be slightly less populated if you were to rotate the crucibles while inside the furnace so the propane burner isn't always focused in the same spot every time? Maybe rotate the crucibles by 90-degrees per melt?

  • @deryckwilliams8877
    @deryckwilliams8877 4 роки тому +1

    Simple and comprehensive. Thank you

  • @masonpl4704
    @masonpl4704 7 років тому +1

    thanks this helped! :)

  • @crackman45
    @crackman45 Рік тому

    What would happen if i added salt into the mixture of steel making it feel like putting salt on your wounds?

  • @Leads4Free
    @Leads4Free 5 років тому +2

    Great video :)

  • @mikehilbig8280
    @mikehilbig8280 9 місяців тому +1

    The solid bottom plywood base would be better if left off to improve and not restrict the cooling airflow for the transformer. The base of the welder is large open screen for that reason. I do like the wheels mounted on the front vs. the back, as you can wheel it closer to the wall and easily retrieve it back out.

  • @TheKNOTTYMAN
    @TheKNOTTYMAN 7 років тому +2

    I like the extension handle on the angle grinder

  • @mindofmadness5593
    @mindofmadness5593 5 років тому +2

    Been using old cast iron pots with the handles cut off and bolts to lift/lower. They last a decent amount of time. I've burned right thru anything less in one or two pours and it's too dangerous to risk. No welding tools so I really do make something from nothing. Did buy a graphite to do copper in. Last years cast pot is done for I think and not sure I want to try it in my newly built melter so....

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  5 років тому

      Nice! Good luck with your new furnace!

    • @mindofmadness5593
      @mindofmadness5593 5 років тому

      @@MakinSumthinFromNuthin, thank you-I always appreciate your work. Waiting for new burner-today or tomorrow perhaps, built the furnace then issues with old burner right afterwards-decided to order a new one that uases air pressure as mine needed a blower and I am not intelligent enough to do one without.

  • @jr.patriotswrestlingclub5768
    @jr.patriotswrestlingclub5768 6 років тому +1

    If I was trying to melt a little bit of gold like 5 or 6 grams can you use half inch black steel gas pipe cap as a crucible? And if you can will the gold stick to the steel cap inside?

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  6 років тому

      You could but not recommended, use a cheap, small ceramic or graphite crucible for precious metals. It will likely stick unless you use plently of borax as a flux

  • @SendNubes96
    @SendNubes96 Рік тому +1

    Some advice. When you do the fast forward thing with the power tools, it'd be nice if you turned the volume of the video down while power tools are in use but you have a great video otherwise. Thank you

  • @JacobPratt-md8hb
    @JacobPratt-md8hb Місяць тому

    Thank you for this im going to watch everything you have on this subject. Do you have the poor mans furnace?

  • @jasonmicheal8006
    @jasonmicheal8006 6 років тому +1

    I've been using a compressor I pulled for an old a/c window unit. It's about the same size as your average fire extinguisher. It has a thick centerpiece rotor which I've had no luck removing and the walls are thick. I'd say 1/4 inch. I've been able to soften aluminum but have not been able to actually pour liquid from compressor. Could it be the walls are too thick?

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  6 років тому

      Possibly your thick crucible is acting as a heat sink, not sure what type of furnace you have or how well its insulated but try upping your fuel. If push comes to shove add forced air and you should be able to easily melt and pour brass with forced air ~ Richard

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  6 років тому

      Interesting. I have a video about how I made my furnace, can be made for about $10.00 I think if you put a lid on your furnace with a 4" hole to add aluminum and for venting you can get your metal to liquid state

  • @elmoooo
    @elmoooo 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting rig for the angle grinder @ 10:20 Maybe it is common but I see it for the 1st time. Is it comfortable for precise cuts? Isn't your left hand in the line of sight?

  • @truebeliever5233
    @truebeliever5233 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the knowledge. I am a new subscriber. I have a question if I may? Have you ever tried to use two cylinders, a smaller, one inside of a larger, one with concrete or plaster and sand sandwiched between them to make a reinforced crucible? I would rather have you give me your experience and what may go wrong if you did then me wasting precious time making mistakes that someone already made. If you have them that you give me an answer I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you so much. I learned a lot today.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  Рік тому

      I have not tried that, interesting idea though! If you try it let me know the your results

  • @homegrowntomatoes1
    @homegrowntomatoes1 8 років тому

    Cool. Thanks.

  • @wilbradford619
    @wilbradford619 5 років тому +6

    Thanks for the tutorial, 😎👍
    The thumbs down are just JEALOUS..😏

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  5 років тому

      Thx for watching Wil!

    • @zachwhyte6040
      @zachwhyte6040 4 роки тому +1

      Or crucible makers that are mad that hes showing a cheap way to do it.

    • @virtualtools_3021
      @virtualtools_3021 4 роки тому

      @@zachwhyte6040 "CRUCIBLE MAKERS HATE HIM! LEARN THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK TO MAKE A CRUCIBLE!"

  • @clongshanks5206
    @clongshanks5206 Рік тому

    I know it’s an old video, but where could I find old/depleted fire extinguishers?

  • @ruthdoyle9085
    @ruthdoyle9085 4 роки тому

    Why not a smaller steel inside a larger steel one? Would the inner one last longer?

  • @lukecarter8100
    @lukecarter8100 7 років тому

    Very nice.

  • @TheCAPTAINman128
    @TheCAPTAINman128 7 років тому +1

    how do I discharge the extinguisher? i have one i'm looking to turn into a crucible but don't want it blowing up in my face. any help would be appreciated. thanks

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      Its real easy, just pull the pin going thru the handle and point nozzle and pull up on the handle. They make a mess so do it in an open area. I have another vid where I discharge one...you can see what happens here...its another crucible making video ua-cam.com/video/1Jn6VJq9my4/v-deo.html

    • @promixed1208
      @promixed1208 6 років тому

      Use a wrench and open the top where the gauge is at so it can let it go just do it at a non populated area because of the bad dust or just spray it like crazy and finish it i hope I help

  • @panzerofthelake1623
    @panzerofthelake1623 6 років тому +1

    I found a 40x40 mm diameter graphite crucible online, what exactly is the size of a 40x40mm diameter crucible? Is it the size of your hand or what and what can you possibly put in it to melt?

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  6 років тому

      25mm is about an inch....so its rather small. Those are usually used for precious metals as they wont hold a whole lot

  • @ThePepper1976
    @ThePepper1976 6 років тому +1

    Frankenstein bolts hey... nice ty good idea

  • @trapdodo1473
    @trapdodo1473 7 років тому +43

    Starts at 6:31

  • @Eatherbreather
    @Eatherbreather 6 років тому +1

    POUR man's crucible. Great vid 👍

  • @carnipicus5320
    @carnipicus5320 7 років тому +1

    what happens if you quench it in oil i mean is it possible to re-temper a crucible?

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому +1

      No need to quench steel crucibles, once they fail they fail....could be repaired by welding but not worth it in my opinion

  • @iguanapete3809
    @iguanapete3809 7 років тому +1

    Go to Tru Value Hardware. Get small can of refractory cement (for wood burning stoves). Mix with water to make a slurry. Coat inside of crucible.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      In my experience that stuff doesnt hold up in a metal melting furnace. These work fine as is

  • @stevenanderson7046
    @stevenanderson7046 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. What does eg 6-8 melts mean? Is 1 melt a single heat/cool cycle, doesn't matter how long it's hot and how much aluminum is melted while hot? What if you cool the crucible down slower, will that extend lifetime?

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  2 роки тому

      Is 1 melt a single heat/cool cycle - YES
      It is the heat cycle that is the issue, not cool down time, the aluminum is also slightly caustic to the steel and degrades it

  • @z0m123
    @z0m123 6 років тому +1

    My extinguisher has a plastic cup on the inside should I burn it of or scrape it out

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  6 років тому

      I have never seen a plastic cup in one.....it needs to be removed somehow. I would avoid melting it out as it may leave plastic residue

  • @erik123362
    @erik123362 7 років тому +1

    about how many firings can you get out of this kind of crucible? I'd be using it in an electric furnace to melt aluminum

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому +1

      Given the gentle heating nature of an electric kiln I wouldnt be surprised if you were to get 15-20 uses out of one of these...possibly more...speculation on my part The harsh environment of a propane burner heating the crucible unevenly is what causes these to fail prematurely. The most I have gotten is around 12 melts but usually 8-9 is the long term average Please share your results if you use one. Thx

  • @kermit368
    @kermit368 7 років тому +1

    What's a good thickness for a crucible? I was using one of those green mini propane tanks as I have access to them in abundance. They seem as thick if not maybe a little thinner than an extinguisher...Well I got one burn out out it before the bottom flange stand started to flake and crumble. On the second burn it failed. I probably got it too full and frankly just too hot. Was glowing a lot more this go around. Went to check the level and it was all trash. A look on the side revealed a pool of molten aluminum oozing out.
    Back to my question, I was thinking about steel casing, but don't know if it will be too thick and not worth the time to use and maintain a good internal temperature. I want it wide enough to scoop the trash out while I'm working so I don't have to do several pours on one ingot. And as I'm using a lot of aluminum cans, there is plenty of trash in my first burn.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      Are you using a charcoal type furnace and an air source to superheat the furnace? I will address your questions once I hear back from you.

    • @kermit368
      @kermit368 7 років тому +1

      Yes, It's just a brick foundry. Octagonal shape about 18" high, I just used some extra 6" paving bricks I had lying around. For now I'm using the blower motor out of an old hair dryer through a 1 1/4" pipe.(only one side for now) I was using traditional grilling charcoal briquettes when it failed and I think I had it too hot as the blower was at max speed, though I did not check the temp.
      I know that charcoal has a higher energy value and burns hotter more consistently than wood thanks to the additives. But also read it's not as hot as lump wood charcoal? Not sure what the best source for burning goes (charcoal traditional, lump, or just wood) as I'm new to this and only doing small projects for now...so trial and error is expected.
      But it's fun to be working on something that doesn't require a grinder, welder, or planer for once. So I may end up investing in a better (propane) foundry and just ordering a few graphite crucibles online.
      Will for sure be picking up a non contact thermometer in the near future if you have any recommendations on them, or any other temperature gauges.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      The reason why I asked about the fuel source is that charcoal and even wood furnaces get wayyyyy to hot for melting simple aluminum, especially with forced air (hair dryers) and other blower units. Overcooking steel crucibles causes them to fail prematurely...even mine fail but I just replace them cause I get the extinguishers free but not everyone can do that. The green propane tanks are really thin...I bet they dont last long. If you plan to do it a while...construct a propane fired furnace, invest in a clay/graphite crucible and for temp control use a K-Type Thermocouple. I have videos on making furnaces and burners, the rest is up to you. Move away from charcoal and wood....go propane :)

  • @lucianoguerra9013
    @lucianoguerra9013 6 років тому

    Thank You Loader. I'm not free yet but I can't wait to be on my own. Now I need to know how to make a poor mans furnace and would a small propane tank or a large one when it comes to metal aluminum?

  • @shondarcey6290
    @shondarcey6290 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you I was all ready to go whene I realized that I didn't have a visible so thank you for your time

  • @grantkeller8024
    @grantkeller8024 6 років тому +1

    Good to know, thanks

  • @jo3lsilvaracidesigner946
    @jo3lsilvaracidesigner946 7 років тому +1

    good job!

  • @jugofmilk41
    @jugofmilk41 7 років тому +1

    Well this is the exact thing I was looking for I'm just starting and know what to do but am pretty poor in terms of making them

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      Thx for watching, Some steel pipe with a solid base welded on will work too, dont use galvanized tho! :)

  • @Alpatriod
    @Alpatriod 7 років тому +1

    i melted a crusible made out of a THICK extinglisher and it melted through. i found a automatic water bowl for cattle made of cast iron and thats what i use now. i use a 55 gallon barroll use wood and a shop vac

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      Glad U found what works for ya. Wood or charcoal combined with forced air generates way too much heat to simply melt aluminum. Thats why blacksmiths using coal can forge weld steel cause it gets so hot. Can melt aluminum without the air with wood or coal. Thanks for tuning in! :)

    • @jondoes8222
      @jondoes8222 7 років тому

      Cast iron 2 gallon pot works for me.

  • @wheelietime7062
    @wheelietime7062 3 роки тому +1

    Can you do brass with that in coal forge from a campfire with a blower into it. I want to try that have lots of brass.

  • @TheSkaireKrowe
    @TheSkaireKrowe 7 років тому +2

    I'd be curious as to the reuse ability ratio (per pour) between aluminum and a higher melting point metal like copper or brass with these extinguishers as crucibles. Essentially, is it worth trying these crucibles with copper or brass pours or would you stick to aluminum?

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      I have melted brass in an extinguisher crucible that was new but it truly cooks them good. You may get 2-3 melts if lucky. They are good for aluminum if you dont go overboard using forced air with your propane...I avg about 8-9 melts doing aluminum before needing to replace them

    • @TheSkaireKrowe
      @TheSkaireKrowe 7 років тому +1

      That is helpful to know your experience with some of the other metals. It looks like it may be more economical to reserve these to strictly aluminum and save the copper or brass pours for maybe a graphite purpose based crucible. Enjoying your foundry videos. Thanks for sharing.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      You took the words right out of my mouth :)
      Thanks for watching!

    • @l0I0I0I0
      @l0I0I0I0 2 роки тому

      @@MakinSumthinFromNuthin Can you coat the FE with graphite powder and high temp expoxy mix to extend life? Cost a little more but if it doubles the life, you end up with less work and cost less. Idk

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  2 роки тому +1

      6-10 uses for aluminum
      1 or 2 for brass/copper

  • @AlEx-fx7dk
    @AlEx-fx7dk Рік тому +1

    wonderful video and description. did you cast that grinder handle bar yourself ?

  • @pheenix42
    @pheenix42 7 років тому +12

    Free fire extinguishers? Lucky you!

  • @richyearle007
    @richyearle007 7 років тому +6

    Cool...You got me.."poor man" being the key words..Nice work...Wow hey 37 dislikes,you have your own hate club.It's a sad world lol.You could not get any better explained than that..Cheers

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому +1

      Yup, me gots haters I guess. What did I ever do to those folks!? LOL

    • @richyearle007
      @richyearle007 7 років тому +1

      Maybe they wanted 4K video with some background music.It may be that you talk funny with that American accent and you say Aluminum (Al oom inum) instead of Aluminium(Al you min ium)...Jokes LOL..Who knows.Tell me,do you think it is worthwhile collecting aluminium cans to melt down?

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      I have melted down plenty of Aloominum cans and the ingots suit my purposes just fine. Its not top quality aluminum alloy like car rims or previously cast aluminum like lawn mower engines but if ya toss back enough Fosters you can amass quite a pile over time. LOL :)

    • @richyearle007
      @richyearle007 7 років тому +1

      I am a Tooheys man myself,but i get the idea..lol...I only just realised you replied.I was thinking i still have not heard from that Aloominum fellow,i hope i did not upset him.I was just about to apologise..Good to see you have a sense of humour. It has been my experience that my humour is an acquired taste.I hate when these spell check programs keep wanting me to spell American,as in apologize,realized,humor and Aloominum LOL......You have that many interesting videos,i'll be back mate.Have a good day..Cheers.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      I switched from bottled beer which I have drank my whole life to cans ever since I built the Aloominumb furnace simply to get xtra stuff to melt down. I have a healthy sense of humemour and dont get offended easily...I also realize that I have viewers from all over the world that have funny accents and spell words funny...but I dont hold that against them! HA 😜

  • @taylor5263
    @taylor5263 8 років тому +2

    i used a steel crucible from a fire extinguisher for over a year doing at least 2 casts a week it actually started to warp due to repetitive heat cycles before it popped a hole, since then i havent done anymore casting until last weekend when i built a new more efficient foundry that runs on a waste oil burner with a graphite crucible, from what ive been told and read they work better, last longer and dont contaminate your metal so is there any particular reason you dont use a graphite one aside from cost? if anyones interested the video of my new foundry will be up on my channel tomorrow

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому

      They are good starter crucibles for the home hobbyist. I plan on doing cast iron here soon in my mini brass furnace, will buy a clay/graphite crucible for that. Thanks for sharing, will check out your set up once you have your vid up :)

    • @taylor5263
      @taylor5263 8 років тому +1

      Thankyou unfortunately my blower kicked the bucket just as i was about to film the melt so im running on propane in the video

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому

      Waste oil burners are interesting devices, I have mucked around with one I made. I need to take it off the top shelf and utilize it more :)

  • @panzerofthelake1623
    @panzerofthelake1623 7 років тому +1

    Is a sizzling plate(made of cast iron) good enough material for crucible??? Plus its thick.

  • @graemeallen3893
    @graemeallen3893 4 роки тому

    Good job buddy ,I just picked up 10 extinguishers for $10. I intend to eventually melt gold and I don't think a stainless steel crucible would be used for the amount of heat, but I are just starting to get a bit of metals to play with. Copper, brass,etc and someone said I should be able to use each one at least 5-6 times before making another one. Do you think I should make a clay or one that was more likely to last for higher temperature metals. I are going to make jewellery and I have never melted anything down as I are going to do it as a hobby. I have seen a few you tube videos of making a good crucible using a mix of Paris of plaster with sand or would you recommend a professional one made from the best material you can use?.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  4 роки тому

      Stainless can be used for a crucible. Use the steel ones for aluminum & brass. You will find the higher melting temps for brass will cause reduced extinguisher crucible life. My average is 5-8 melts of aluminum using extinguishers....less for brass. For gold invest in some smaller graphite crucibles specifically for the gold. Dedicated ones for gold only....or silver only. Small Graphite crucibles & lifting tongs can be found on ebay

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  4 роки тому

      Avoid making your own....I have tried....and failed 😊 Avoid plaster altogether

  • @louisealcott8384
    @louisealcott8384 8 років тому +1

    pretty cool

  • @user-be9ii9ut4t
    @user-be9ii9ut4t 7 років тому +1

    extinguisher base blocks valuable heat to bottom, why not use schedule 40 pipe(scrap can be bought buy the lb) w/plate base and tripod legs, cheaper in the long run as is welding studs(scrap) instead of nut/bolts saves time/money

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  7 років тому

      Valuable points, the extinguishers are free to me and I reuse the bolts & nuts so the crucibles dont cost me anything. If I come across some nice pipe during scrapping I will be sure to use it. Thanks for watching & commenting

  • @David-fv7zg
    @David-fv7zg 8 років тому +1

    I love your frugality. So, what can you do with the top of the extinguisher?

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому +2

      I used one the other day as a funnel when I changed my oil in my truck! LOL :)

    • @David-fv7zg
      @David-fv7zg 8 років тому +1

      +Makin Sumthin From Nuthin That's the first thing I thought of, a funnel. Good stuff, thanks for sharing this.

    • @MakinSumthinFromNuthin
      @MakinSumthinFromNuthin  8 років тому

      Thank you for watching Dave, consider subscribing if you haven't already :)

    • @bigted1953
      @bigted1953 5 років тому

      @@MakinSumthinFromNuthin could you weld feet on the part you cut off and use it as a crucible if you put a pipe plug in it or welded something over the inlet?? just curious