Veteran Scottie Pippen beefed with the Bulls because winning on a cheap contract stings | Part 2
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- In the '97 season Scottie Pippen was making $2.25 million, which sounds like a lot of money, I want that much money. But I'm not an elite NBA player (never given the chance).
Compared to salaries of elite NBA players, or even regular NBA players, Pippen was quite underpaid. In fact, he was the 128th highest paid player in the league. While leading, along with Michael Jordan and Dennis Rodman, the Bulls to a 5th title. Outrageous.
As you can imagine this led to bad blood-- in the form of tipsy verbal assault, near trades, purposefully delayed surgery, etc.
This is part two of the beef between Scottie Pippen and the people who paid him. AKA the beef between Scottie Pippen and the team he helped capture 6 titles. AKA Scottie Pippen vs The Chicago Bulls.
Written and produced by Clara Morris
Directed and edited by Jiazhen Zhang
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“And nothing could ch…and only one thing could change his mind”. The comedic timing she has is immaculate
Had me rolling 😂
Been a fan of hers since the casual “huh, weird” quips she would drop in the Lance Armstrong vid whenever something steroid related would come up
@@maniswolftoman I mean its a script lets not look to much into it
@@loganford1220 “Written and Produced by Clara Morris”
So yeah she wrote it, and you still have to have the right inflection and cadence to make it funny, so praise is deserved.
@@maniswolftomandon’t you think she had influence on how it was edited 😂… that was definitely purposeful
Christmas eve beef? The hero we didn't know we needed coming in with the clutch save
Exactly my thoughts
Your channel’s content is A1! The writing, the graphics… absolutely incredible. The description of the change in the salary cap over time was brilliant. Bravo!
Actually I would say that this channel's content is A5 😎
Simp less
Clara is such a ridiculously good narrator and script writer. A real inspiration
Hahaha ummm no
@@arizonaFIREent 😑😑 imagine hating on her. She fire
I find her voice kind of annoying.
@@Chugins She's awesome
@Danny Tallmage Um praising a woman is the last thing an incel would do.
Pippen didn't have bad timing with his decision; he had the *worst* timing. It was really bananas in 1993-94 when young players angled for juicy extensions, and got them. Freshly drafted rookies successfully bargained for big contracts. All of a sudden proven superstars like Barkley, Malone, Robinson, Ewing, Drexler, and Pippen were making less $ than some guys who hadn't put on a uniform yet, and young players who hadn't done anything yet. It was insane that for a while guys like Pippen were making way less than guys who could barely make the playoffs.
IS NOT "insult" to honour contracts
Why pay HIM more when we can get MORE PIECES to surround him with??
@@darrengordon-hill ok, so this is probably going to sound either boring or condescending, or both. Renegotiating contracts in order to improve the conditions purely to improve worker satisfaction in certain cases is a thing that can be done. If Pippen would have pulled a Vince Carter and not played hard, and then they'd not have won anything, he would have still been living up to his contract. They could have doubled his salary and not have had any cap problems; ownership has always been that cheap.
@@davdiaNo one forced Pippen to sign the contract. Pippen was also a quitter so he was always overpaid
That is always the dilemma between signing a long contract vs. a short contract. I could sign a long contract thinking it's gonna secure my future. At the time I signed that contract, it was pretty good money. But then something unexpected happens and the salaries rise exponentially, making my long contract look not so great.
Pippen ALMOST jeopardized the Bulls 1997-1998 championship season by purposely delaying surgery.
The Last Dance literally scratched the surface of this beef 😂
Yes, and I was pissed about that. I couldn't believe when it was over because they barely covered this. Secret Base did a nice job here.
The Last Dance was Jordan propaganda
@@fredleinweber2819 true more details but this time it’s all about Pippen
Yeah, but that was bad editing on The Last Dance's part. When you're talking about Scottie Pippen being unhappy with his contract, I don't care about Michael Jordan playing baseball or coming back to visit whenever baseball season was over. That one episode where they covered Scottie sitting out that play where Kukoć hit that playoff game winner, I couldn't have cared less about what MJ thought. MJ said he told Phil Jackson, "Man, I don't know how Scottie can come back from that as the team's leader." How is that relevant? At that moment, I'd be more interested in Scottie explaining the growth in leadership. Everyone has to grow into the role, and his maturation would've been much more interesting than what Michael Jordan thought.
@@uncreative5766 Pippen sitting out on final play still gives him nightmares to this day
This channel is fantastic for many, many reasons. But Clara Morris is a national treasure. I hope everyone sees it. She’s sooo good. Protect at all costs!
I love her work on the untitled videos
Seriously 💯
Yeah, I love everyone at Secret Base, but she's the best
Anytime I hear her annoying voice I roll my eyes she's terrible and boring
Nah
The salary cap box visualization was probably the best explanation I've ever heard. Bravo.
The reason they were able to win, while having team-ending problems, has everything to do with leadership of Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson.
I don't see any other team with these problems winning as much as the Bulls did.
This is why Phil is the GOAT coach Auerbach and Pop didn't have to deal with all this BS when they won rings.
Shaq and Kobe.
Lol not true at all so basically only one person can win you games not a team effort right?🤡 Phil just got lucky twice getting Kobe and Jordan stop it Greg pop is a wayyy better coach
@@CrazyxEnigma Your're right. Haters all up in their girly feelings, but it don't matter. The way to prove a great coach is they manage an unmanageable, like a Rodman. Only Phil and Chuck Daily did that and had success. Phil is PROVEN. Pop couldn't even control Rodman. THAT'S A FACT! (look it up) Rodaman hated Pop but admired Phil and Chuck.
@@batssama Your right on Pop he's still coaching so there very well could be something like this he had to deal with we don't know about. But Red? If he had to deal with this kind of stuff I think it would've come out by now as opposed to being buried and forgotten.
As far as tearing down? No it isn't tearing down, when you're trying to rank the three greatest coaches ever you have to nitpick and as far as we know Pop and Red didn't have to deal with this kind of crap so that's what seals the deal for me.
Krause got a superstar for pennies on the dollar and knew that all the threats Pippen threw at him were empty because he liked winning more than money. What a GM masterclass
Machiavellian of him, sure, but if it wasn’t for MJ’s existence in this universe this style of management would’ve turned the Bulls into the Twolves of the East
@@SSEF15 They kind of are the TWolves of the East now and have been for the past 20 years. Both teams have had a superstar player (DRose and KG) but both have failed to win a ring. Both are unattractive free-agent destinations and both are probably not going to win a championship anytime soon. The Wolves have a slightly better chance but not by much.
Pippen didn't have to sign that low money contact, but he did. It's on him if he was upset he wasn't getting more money.
Please. Scottie didn't care about winning, he wanted out, but the Bulls refused to trade him
@@TheFishingNomad That's not how it works man. Other bulls players signed lesser deals and got them remade for better.
Yes, Scottie has part of the blame, but thats for him wanting security for his family. With the way his injuries went, if he didnt signed that, its entirely possible the Bulls would have traded him or sent him out without that security
Scottie is like the most under appreciated person on one of the greatest franchises that had 1 of the greatest runs!
All while being the second best player on the team and still being under appreciated. Smh
Rodman was better
😂😂😂😂 nah
@@lukesmith9692 in his wildest dreams. Rodman was an amazing rebounder, maybe the best ever, but that's legitimately the only thing he was better than pippin at. He was worse in every other regard and wasn't even there for most of the bulls championships.
@@69belhaven Rodman was there for half of them. Pippen was the better overall player though
All-time Secret Base moment @ 5:35 😂 Great job again Clara!
That last line gave me chills
Jordan son banging his wife should give you chills
Same
are you gay?
Same question for you @RolfTheWalker
16:45
@@jrsmith1998 nice! I remember using that "insult" back in highschool when I thought it was offensive...in 1998. Good on you for being a real man who lifts weights and bangs chicks. Super jealous of you, bro, but if anyone should get it, it should definitely be you and that razor sharp wit. Hey internet, please give this dude the thumbs up he deserves for such an insightful response. I'm mashing the thumbs up but first, UA-cam only lets me like it once, and second, my phone screen cracked at how hard I tried to press more than once. Good job, John Smith!
Literally had no idea Scottie went back to Chicago in 2003... That blew my mind!
He tried announcing too for like a month while he was hurt
Scottie pipen was the most valuable bull in the 90s he led in every stat category on the team execpt points and he made the 94 ecf. With Scottie the player who is considered the goat wouldn’t have any rings the truth is Scottie is the heart and soul of the team
@@zegobot9674 I don't believe Jordan without Pippen is ringless, not six or two three peats sure. But ringless? No, Krause would've found a second star to pair with Jordan or he would've left the Bulls.
@@zegobot9674 Jordan always gives Pippen credit. Even in the last dance he says there’s no MJ without Pippen
@@zegobot9674 why are you lying? Scottie didn’t lead the bulls in assists or rebounds.
I was upset that The Last Dance didn't really want to get into this particular stain on the Bulls' 90s legacy, but fortunately Clara did and I love it!
I so want to like Scottie. He has such an amazing back story. He grew up in one of the toughest situations of any player in history. Busted his butt to play at a low-level college team and made it to the NBA to become a 6-time champion and a top 75 player of all time. It’s an amazing story - that he completely ruins by being selfish and self-absorbed. Come on, Scottie. Have a little grace and learn to let things go.
He was my favorite player of all times, but he has really gone of the rails recently. I think something flipped in him after his son's death, maybe and he just stopped giving a F***. The worst for me, was when he had his chance with Portland to best the Lakers in game 7, when they choked in the final minutes. The only team that could trouble Portland that year was LA, because nobody could stop Shaq. But Pippen didn't take charge, he kept facilitating to the other guys, Brian Grant, Rasheed Wallace, Stoudamire, etc. and they choked, but HE was the one with 6 rings, and while he wasn't in his prime, it was up to him. They won that game, they would've cake walked through the finals, and Pippen would have a 7th title without MJ, completely changing his legacy. He said after, "we played like cowards" and it was true, and it sickens me to this day.
You mean black story instead of back story, right son?
He was about to let go … until “ The Last Dance” came out.
@@kasolpromodo1989 He was about to come out when "The Last Dance" was let go... right back in the closet again after that son.
Scottie Pippen is a headcase.
Not many people remember the fact that Pippen was playing with Injury in 96 and Dennis Rodman missed a lot of games due to suspensions and what not.
They only remember 72 wins with a ring.
I gotta be honest, take Pippen off the Bulls and plug in an at the least a really good player(grant hill, Mitch Richmond, sprewell, Reggie miller, stack house and so on) they still would of won all those championships. Jordan was the dude who held it all together.
Pippen was good but extremely overrated
“There’s a golden lining to this beef and it’s made of Larry O’Brian trophies” absolutely brilliant
This needs more views and Clara needs a max contract
I will never understand a full aggressive rebuild of a championship team. It feels so weird.
I'd be willing to bet the #1 objective is to make serious cuts to the teams budget.
When the GOAT MJ leaves for good alongside Phil Jackson you gotta rebuild
@@exeterra4825 phill actually doesn't want to leave, it's Krause who hate him so much he want to get rid of him as soon as possible that's why the team broke
Money, it's always money
@@ozora1770 It's ignored completely at the end but yeah. Krause was also responsible for one of the best coaches in history, and the best coach in Chicago's history, walking out of Chicago. Krause stated they could win every game that season, Jackson still wasn't getting a new contract. MJ has mentioned multiple times they, as a team, were willing to go again and see what more they had left. Krause refused in no small part because he, very arrogantly, thought he could reassemble the magic that made that team work with new faces.
His beef was understood he wasn't appreciated People forget how much Scottie helped Michael along the way!
Before he came there Jordan always struggled 2 get out the East!
Which is why I don’t know why people are revising history. That doesn’t take anything away from Jordan. It’s just a fact.
It’s almost, and the key word is almost, how Klay Thompson felt when 2k launched his overall rating for NBA 2k23. You can’t just have Steph Curry and not have Thompson with him to help shed some of the 3-pt load. Look at the Warriors’ Win/Loss record without Klay and you’ll realize how much they needed both of the Splash Bros in order to have a chance to come out of the West.
He was very appreciated until his ego started slandering and hating everybody and everything
Real bulls fans haven’t forgotten how important Pip was to those Chicago bulls. I don’t know where y’all get that from
@@Krackerboy901… you know this is false the general consensus was that it was MJ and the Bulls … NBA on NBC literally narrated the intro as if it was a Jordan movie
Hope one day we get an hour long Kobe v Shaq history
I loved their interview. Shaq was pissed off when Kobe won his fifth ring.
One hour won’t do that justice. They’ll need a whole Last Dance type documentary
@@floorgeneral309 Couldn't agree more. Jeff Pearlman has a book called "Three ring circus" that delves deep into the Shaq/Kobe Lakers and gets into a lot of their issues....but yeah, you could EASILY do a whole 30 for 30 type like 5-6 hour doc just on their beef history alone...and it would be fascinating.
We finally got it
How any team can come together with such complex group dynamics and win one championship is truly a feat in itself. Mind blowing that the bulls did it six times
The team was led by Michael Jordan. It makes sense
Jordan leadership
@@TheLionaaa Counterpoint: Washington Wizards
@@NotaPizzaGRL The Wizards were the worst team in the league and Jordan carried them to the 5th spot until his injury at 38. He was in the MVP conversation and was the only player averaging over 25/5/5. There's no counterpoint. That's BS media narrative and it was still great leadership.
@@x-man9473Michael couldn’t even get outta the first round until pippen and Jackson came into his life
Scottie's fault. Everyone told him not to sign his long-term deal. Even Reinsdorf told him don't sign it. Pippen wanted the security immediately.
It's hard to suggest such a notion given how short an NBA career can be for guys who aren't All-Stars and Superstars. I think the whole situation was a fault on all sides
@@akeemjames2409 Nah, the whole world told him don't sign. He gets 100% accountability for his actions. In the end, he still made more basketball salary than Michael Jordan did.
@Bwink23 Who is everybody? I believe only Reinsdorf had spoken with Scottie, I don't believe it was a great deal of people. Let's not forget Reinsdorf is a billionaire who understands business, he knew Scottie had to sign that deal since it was a deal that could get him the money. Scottie is wrong for how he drug it out.
@@bwink23 he played longer than jordan did of course he made more
@@alexescutia4805 He made 15 million more. Jordan was making only a million more than Scottie, up until 1997 and 1998...when the Bulls gave MJ back pay for being underpaid his entire career.
He signed that deal in 1991 cus he was desperate he had to take care of his brother who was paralyzed
Yeah, this is part two of this story, they covered that fact in part one
Management and his agent told him to not sign it too
Yeah both his father who had a stroke and brother are in wheelchairs. Pippen himself was a risk with back problems as well so there was a backended insurance deal that Reisendorf mentioned but didn't go into detail about it in the last dance documentary.
Covered in part 1 of this
@@MikeBNumba6 selling his soul to the devil
Scottie pippen and clara Morris both underrated and deserve more love.
Krause warned him in 91...Don't sign the contract....It's going to be outmoded.....He refused...So...I don't feel sorry for him.
Pip was unquestionably an all time great player.... but his thoughts on certain things makes me seem to think he just doesn't understand some basic things in society. You get booed on the court not because you're black, it's because you are playing like crap. You weren't as good as MJ so stop that non sense.
I see Scottie’s perspective but when he refused to take the floor when the play was not called to give him the last shot he lost too much respect to get in the good graces with fans so nobody cared as much at how he was being underpaid because of it.
No matter how many times I hear these old Bulls stories/beefs, it’s still totally fascinating every time.
And I always thought it was one big happy family.
Both Jerrys told him not to sign it but he did it anyway this is old true chicago fans knew about this way before the last dance Pippen was not forced to sign it he wanted it.
This entire beef can be boiled down to; Scottie Pippen signs terrible contract against advice of basically everyone, then proceeds to complain about his own decision for the next 40 years.
Exactly lol
Not really, it comes down to Jerry Reinsdorf being to stubborn to raise his salary, while then later being okay with the idea of paying MJ tens of millions a year to play minor league baseball 😂
@mahmoudeltayeb2771 Exactly. Everyone points to the players, nobody looks at ownership.
@@mahmoudeltayeb2771 I don’t think you understand how large of a character Michael Jordan was in the 90’s
Wym people reconstruct contracts that was greed the bulls been cursed since 🤷🏽♂️
12:44 Not entirely true. The Bulls had a resurgence even before Pippen rejoined, improving from 12-9 to 20-9 after Dec 12, 1997, and the records before Pippen rejoined the team in mid-January 1998 was 24-11. Not exactly the worst record at all!!!
I saw Scotty pimping his liquor at the local South Lamar Wine and Spirits store in my neighborhood earlier this year, and he was the same Surly the Legend we've come to love. I brought my watch collection because I needed something to set all of them to, and Scotty is on time every time with his disgust for being there, wherever "there" is that day.
🤣🤣🤣 not the watch collection!!
That is like one step above being the celebrity guest at a furniture store opening. Why to these celebs who are already multimillionaires sell their own liquor brand. Like why do we need to drink tequila or vodka that gets pushed by some celeb.
Have you noticed how scottie doesn't take any responsibility? Dude was never going to be the #1
As a Jazz fan, it's pretty painful to realize that maybe Stockton would have a ring of Pippen had actually forced his way out of Chicago at some point.
Scottie would fit right in with this generation's players. What a baby
Please do Reggie Miller untitled or deep rewind on his shot versus the bulls in 1998
Just not Reggie Miller Collapse 😢
Imagine how much more attention this would have gotten if Twitter existed back then
If Twitter existed back then a lot of team would have fell apart more than this one
Not the only who’s been waiting on this beef
It’s crazy how valuable to bulls pipen was now you might think I’m crazy but he was more valuable than mj. Yet so disrespected he led the bulls in alll stat category’s execpt points and almost made the finals in 94. In reality he was the heart and soul of the team and without him mj would have no rings
@@zegobot9674
@@oscarbenitah4718 wtf
@@zegobot9674 bro said scottie > mj
The Bulls started winning without Pippen. That’s why he came back.
Imagine the alternate history if Scottie gets dealt to Seattle for Kemp.
Yeah Jordan 3 rings
If that deal goes through they don't bother signing Rodman and I doubt they three peat again. Kemp was good but he doesn't have Pippen's versatility.
@@CrazyxEnigma why would they not sign rodman?
@@futuretimetraveller8677 Because they both play PF. Also Rodman had a worse reputation than Dwight at the time any other coach then Phil Jackson doesn't get anything out of him.
@@CrazyxEnigma it would work because rodman was not an offensive threat and kemp WAS so they could use them both or dennis 4 and kemp 3 sometimes
but you're right probably they would not have taken the chance on dennis if they had kemp already
It was still Pippen’s own fault for signing that bad deal. Even Reinsdorf told him “If I were you, I wouldn’t take that deal.” He should have known his worth and bet on himself. If he had, he’d have been among the top 10 highest paid players in the league for most of his career instead of the 91st paid. It’s a bad situation, but he was warned, he signed anyway and management decided to hold him over a barrel. 🤷♂️
To make it even worse he signed that deal right before the league revenue and popularity was about to blow up especially after the '92 Olympics.
Y’all make my drives around Boston so much better. Genuinely, thank you 😊
Horace grant was the second highest paid player in the 96-97 season?! 😂😂😂😂Dude had one hell of an agent😂😂. yeah I’d be pissed if I was Scottie 😂😂
Locking yourself in a long contract is a big mistake, and he was told so. But he desperately wanted financial security, he was so afraid of getting a career-ending injury and he couldn’t risk losing the money, which was a very small chance considering how hard he worked on his body and game. The lesson here is don’t let your fears drive you, instead bet on yourself just like MJ did by signing for 1 year and get paid double every year.
Nah. MJ was under the same long term contract, and probably more underpaid than Pippen because of the fact that MJ was the one who was putting people on the seats.
Even Wilt Chamberlain said every player should give a percentage of their earning to Mike because of what Mike did for the game's popularity.
The lesson here is be PROFESSIONAL,.
Jordan earned way more when he retired than when he played because he had that REPUTATION.
Business people are willing to INVEST on him because he is a PROFESSIONAL.
@@mags6946 True, Mj revolutionized the game and all of Chicago sports. Can’t argue w that, from a contract standpoint, he was signing for 1 single year after he came back from retirement thou he was aging meaning an increase in the possibility of him getting injured, but he believed on himself and his worth.
@@yazeedalsalmi1816 he KNOWS what he is doing.
Thing about MJ that no one pays attention to is that MJ was really CLOSE to his parents.
His parents are hardworking people who spent quality time with their kids.
MJ had that CONFIDENCE that only good parents can give.
the lesson is, do what you truly want whatever it is. And dont whine after the fact. He could have decided against signing early and gotten a career ending injury. And then your "advice" falls apart. Dennis Schroeder "bet on himself". By that he lost about 80 million dollars and now was resigned to the Lakers for a minimum salary. 2 million instead of 22 per year.
@@yazeedalsalmi1816 No! Jordan was on the same contract he had before retiring in 93 which was way underpaid considering him being the best player in the league. He played that contract through the 95-96 season when he won his 4th title. Then he followed with 1 year deals the last 2 seasons with the Bulls for his last 2 titles.
You realize the Bulls were 26-12 without Pippen in 97-98. They were hoopin after the first 10 games.
You realize your mom's bee whole got plowed a whole lot more after you were born. Customers didn't wanna pay for the front whole after what you did to those meat curtains coming out the womb. You wrecked that thing boy.
Clara, just wanted to let you know you absolutely killed this video and keep up the awesome work, don't doubt your skill again you're and awesome narrator that can grab the attention viewers easily.
If that Pippen for Kemp trade went through.. Sonics would've won at least 2 titles. What a menacing tandem of The Glove and Pippen? Yikes
They would have won zero rings
@@TL2354 thank you for that beautiful basketball analysis
That quick correction at 5:37 had me dying.
The problem with Pippen was he was IMPATIENCE; when the owner of the team say don't sign that contract and yet he decided to do so is his own stupid decision; Pippen cannot blame the GM/Owner/MJ if MJ said don't sign the darn contract; Pippen is just stupid at that point where he sign the contract renewal TBH
Clara Morris tha GOAT
No
The whole contract thing did slightly annoy me because no one held a gun to Scottie's head when he signed. If he had spent that contract injured/playing awfully he'd still have to be paid. Both sides gambled signing that deal but it paid off way better for the organisation than Scottie.
Such an amazing way to explain the salary cap system.
It's really not a complicated concept.
Great doc and read! I'm sure a lot of his behavior is regrettable but I have great empathy for Pippen. Raised in generational poverty in Jim Crow AK, 11 siblings, an aging mother, and a father who requires round-the-clock medical care...and here he is executing at the HIGHEST level of professional sports and helping to build a billion-dollar brand. There is NO guarantee of a next season and career-ending injuries lurk with his amount of playtime...the $ he could be getting not only changes the life of his parents and siblings, but for him and his kids, and possibly their kids...it really can feel like life or death. And ownership is playing games and not showing you your value...I would be heated too.
They covered all that in part 1
@@Orangejr36 oh cool I didn't know there was a part 1 thx!
@@migrantson no problem
How can you say management is playing games while Scottie cried trade anytime they didn’t bend over backwards for him
Fantastic, Clara, as always. Thank you SB staff for the great videos over the years so far.
Scottie signed a long contract that paid less than he ended up being worth. That was his choice to do that. Then he wants to cry the money is too low after the Bulls start winning championships? His beef with Krause isn't valid. He chose to go that route with the contract and was warned not to by the Bulls management including Krause.
Five stars. Clara Morris deserves all of the monies.
This is why team executives need to ignore fans. Pippen for Kemp (yes peak Kemp) would of been a great trade.
I loved this re-telling of Scottie's history. Felt a little more real than what we saw on The Last Dance in some cases. The last few setences really makes you think about this whole ordeal: Was winning all those championships amidst all the internal flaws the Bulls had worth it? Nontheless remarkable how they dominated the 90s ins spite of this.
Scottie pippen was the ringleader of the Portland jailblazers
been binging beef history the past few weeks and this two parter was really one of the best that’s ever been done.
The excerpts taken from Pippen’s Unguarded book added A TON to this video. Thanks so much for reading it and finding the details those of us who haven’t read it yet have missed out on.
What a gold mine! I can’t imagine what other goodies are in there that didn’t make the final cut for this
Scottie Pippen: Signs a contract with relatively lower annual money that is guaranteed over a relatively longer period of time, for the explicit purpose of long-term financial security, against the advice of Bulls ownership.
Scottie Pippen, when he's getting paid less annually than teammates: Surprised Pikachu face.
We need to give Jordan props for winning 3 after this headache . Very underrated
Is Clara Tom Segura’s long lost sister? They both have “Juan” (won) a lot of things.
How can you not love Clara? She’s the greatest
Her voice
@@RequiemForABuckeye what about it?
As a preteen and teenager of the 90's I was a Bulls fan even growing up in Orlando I liked Pippen even had his jersey along with Jordan's but this is all on him. He didn't have to sign that contract the bulls even advised against it and Jordan wasn't exactly killing it with NBA contracts until his last three seasons. From a business stand point I can't blame the Bulls for not renegotiating his contract when you are getting an All-star for a bargain. If he got paid a boat load of money and got hurt or didn't put in the previous effort would have he gave some money back ? No!! So it goes both ways. When it was all said he still got paid more money than Jordan in NBA contracts.
Clara is irreplaceable man, love when she does the scripts every time
Sorry but Jerry Krause is arguably the greatest GM in the history of basketball
Question if Pippen played for 10 mil a year and averaged 5 points per game would he think it’s fair to renegotiate for less money, no. Pippen signed a bad deal that the owner and gm said was a bad deal and told him straight up I’m not gonna renegotiate after that. Also MJ only made over 4 mil a year for 2 seasons in his career. So MJ won multiple rings and mvps, was the best player in the league and was only making between 2-4 mil a year.
Jordan didn't get the huge paydays until he came back from baseball
Who offered Pippen the bad deal?? The owner new exactly what he was doing
@@melvynsngltn27 the connotation it's a bad deal is subjective. it was a deal. Period.
Wow... imagine what an MJ/Kemp duo would have done.
Thanks for the last minute Christmas gift Clara
I think it’s hilarious that people sign shitty contracts and get mad that they are bounded by it.
Everybody should see "The Last Dance"........explains everything about that 97-98 season!
I gotta watch it again.
Jordan made propaganda
He was underpaid and underappreciated. And I understand why Pippen did what he did. But according to the Last Dance, MJ said that Reinsdorf does not renegotiate. And then the ankle surgery was selfish. Like MJ said. And sitting out on the play for Toni. And the migraine on game 7 of a series, not saying he didn't have one, but the Bulls could've won 7 or 8. But it's not all Pippen's fault. Krause was a jackass. And Reinsdorf pulled the trigger on the Pippen and whole team. Krause was asked to do a job and he did. But Krause could've stood up for the team more. And teams win championships not organizations. And not saying they don't have a part in it. But Krause thought that whole hearted the organization does it all. Which was wrong. But just my opinion on it. It's been how many years, 20 plus or longer and we're still talking about it. That says a lot to the greatness of MJ and Pippen and the Bulls
Scottie Pip the real #2 on and off the court lol
This beef was that Gold-encrusted Steak you get at one of Salt-baes restaurants 😂
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I never understood why Krause got all of the hatred from players while Reinsdorf, more or less, escaped. Guess it pays to have a whipping boy take all of the punishment for you.
At the end of the day it's part of the job description
I just find this Chicago team a cornerstone for professionalism. Hating each other but still showing up to win. Thats a scary team to face
shaq and kobe are a good example of that as well.
i read the jordan rules watched the last dance then plagiarised a video.
Jordan and Kemp would have been really neat. The baskets would be demolished.
Would've made #4 Championship much more interesting, Payton and Pippen vs Jordan and Kemp
No they wouldn't cuz Kemp need a pg who can feed him as well would had to learn how to play in triangle offense as well. Man y'all say anything
@@michaelallen8112 that’s why the Sonics backed out when they heard fans threatening to riot if the deal went through Krause is a two-faced man who didn't care about keeping the bulls together
@@michaelallen8112 Y'all? are you coming from milking your pigs? Bulls had BJ Armstrong and later Kerr who were both very capable spacing the floor and facilitating AND obviously able to play triangle offense. Y'ALL.
Scottie was facilitator Batman of the Bulls triangle off. If he's not there it not gonna work at it best. aAs Architect Tex Winter mention
CLYDE DREXLER:
1988-89 Portland Trail Blazers NBA $1,200,000
1989-90 Portland Trail Blazers NBA $1,100,000
1990-91 Portland Trail Blazers NBA $1,180,000
1991-92 Portland Trail Blazers NBA $1,378,000
1992-93 Portland Trail Blazers NBA $1,378,000
1993-94 Portland Trail Blazers NBA $1,578,000
1994-95 Portland Trail Blazers NBA $1,578,000
1995-96 Houston Rockets NBA $9,810,000
1996-97 Houston Rockets NBA $5,500,000
1997-98 Houston Rockets NBA $5,500,000
I said it before during ‘The Last Dance’ and I’ll say it again: Imperfect people dealing with imperfect people is hard.
While I understand Scottie Pippen fighting for his worth, he chose to sign a bad contract in 1991. Because of that, HE is the reason for the beef.
If you saw the first episode, it was from a place of desperation.
@@20marvelman Hey!! I did see the first episode, and I admire him for thinking of his family. That said, he still signed a bad contract when several people around him told him there’s no turning back.
@@chrislacy1990 easy for us to say you weren’t I. His position
@@christian-lf2oc OK cool. We all make tough decisions in life. Whatever the consequences are, we must live with them.
@@chrislacy1990 guy said “easy for you to say” as if it’s not the exact truth of what happened.
Horace Grant second highest paid player? That's just insane
scottie was never underrated everybody knew how good he is and how important he is to those bulls, only the new kids nowadays call him underrated because they didnt watch him play live teams, it was his fault that he signed a very stupid and cheap contract and came out later complaining about it
Truth
A quitter can’t be underrated
It makes sense that Scottie Pippen was a bull, because he's all beef.
I love the conclusion of this Beef History. Contextualizing the intensity of the beef wrt the dominance of the Bulls' dynasty is just one more example of how great those teams were
What Pippen didnt understand was that they COULD NOT renegotiate his contract. That was the old CBA. The agreement with the players and owners signed in 91 prevented that. Remember when Kemp requested a new contract and he was ridiculed for it? Same thing, and if Pippen had stayed quiet, he'd got what he wanted. That was one of the reasons Krause didn't want to keep the team together.
I think we need a Scottie Pippen/MJ beef with Isiah Thomas
Yes. And maybe even a Kobe v Shaq..
It all started with Bobby Knight liking MJ more.
"I don't know what to tell you, it might be hard to make Scottie Pippen happy..." Having watched Scottie since he was drafted till now, this might be the most simple way to sum up such a complex person. 🤣
Arby's ain't got nothing on this beef!
Wow. How is it possible you skipped over the fact that MJ was only paid $3.85m in 95 and 96. MJ was the name, face, and shoes of league yet was earning less than some rookies. And side note: Rodman made less than Scottie in 96. If any NBA player had a reason to complain it was Dominque Wilkins. Look up how much earned from 1990-97. Dude never got a payday.. ever.
Ok.. so.. Scotty knowingly signed a crazy long contract (which btw was only outdated by two seasons) because he wanted the guaranteed financial stability for his family, which he got. Then MJ returns (took peanuts for 1-2 seasons) and because he does the leagues salary cap explodes. Which ultimately is the reason why Scotty’s career earnings were way more than Mike’s. And on top of all this, Kraus resigned Scotty so he got $20m more than he would of otherwise before being traded! Which effectively means Scotty got $26 over the final two seasons. Considering all this and Scotties tantrums during gameplay and off the court tirades, it’s clear the dude was in the wrong and still is. I can’t help but feel now that Scottie had more to do with the team disbanding than anyone else.
Didn’t the owner of the bulls himself tell him not to take that long term deal ? And Scottie did it anyways
The Bulls had their eye on drafting McGrady and Jordan nixed it? Oof, and I thought some of his later moves as an exec were bad.
@11:09 "While Pippen was out, the Bulls struggled. They clearly needed him." She displayed graphic that showed November's win-loss record of 4-6.
_Did not show the Bulls went 22-6 the rest of the way before Pippen returned._ Would have been fair to acknowledge that.
He didn't miss 28 games so u have literally lied and made up like 18 games in the 1993-94 box scores that didn't exist. Actually never existed.
@@alecsanderhamilton9224 That section is referring to the 1997-98 season where Pippen missed 38 games.
Bulls were 4-6 w/o Pippen in 1994. They were 51-21 w/ Pippen. He was 3rd in MVP voting in 94 and best player in NBA who was not a center named Olajuwon or Robinson. Shaq is arguably better in 94 but not really strongly arguable vs Pippens team success and Pippens composure and experience vs a young baby 🍼 Hughie SHAQ. And Ewing was near the top of the league but not as good as Pippen in 1994. And Karl Malone and Charles Barkley were not better than Pippen in 94.
Now in 95 yes the Grant less Bulls of Pippen and Kukoc were on their way out of serious title contention. They were 34-31 and about 6th or 7th seed headed if not for the infamous, "RETURN" of Michael "AIR" Jordan who helped Chicago finish 13-4 and a respectable and competeable 47-35 and #5 seed in the 95 East ➡️.
Pippen was running out of STEAM 🚂 in Chicago in year 2 SIN Horace Grant and Michael Jordan 23. But in 94, Pippen was one of the MVPS of the NBA.
95 he was too but he was starting to experience severely the reality of being a LONE ⭐ STAR in the NBA. And it wasn't the familiarity he was used to joining a 50-32 1987-88 Chicago Bulls squad. He was going thru Jordan's 84-85 to 86-87 experience and he was not MJ good or as youthful as MJ in his 94-95 and 8th season in the league.
I am speaking 🗣️ FACTS. U r speaking 🗣️ CACA booty boi.
@@alecsanderhamilton9224 You wrote all that for nothing. The video was speaking of 1998 season. Pippen was great in the 94 regular season. But you can't talk about the regular season without talking about what happened in the playoffs. They come packaged together because it was the same season. Led the team to 55 wins but also quit on his team in the playoffs and was saved by a rookie Kukoc that helped the Bulls push the Knicks to seven games. Interesting how Pippen only wants to talk about the success but not the failure. It doesn't work that way. At the end of the day, the Bulls did not win in 94 and so it will not be remembered like the title years. That's the way it goes. It's all about winning, not whining.
@@TayGee-mh8eo oh okay with 98 Jordan and Rodman. Different season.
I watched a great set of videos how pippen was the most overrated of all time. I was thinking that's crazy until I watched it. Pippen if drafted by sac. Instead of next to the #goat mj would be just another forgotten but good small fwd. Like a Weatherspoon who always owned pippen btw. I think pippen was blessed to be mj's best role player. When pippen had his selfish mid season surgery to " enjoy his summer " Rodman stepped up & the bulls didn't miss a beat. Pippen played the exact role perfectly he needed to play to compliment superman. In all those finals & play off battles how many games to pippen take over ? O. How many big buckets did he hit to win a playoff game? O. Kukoc did in that embarrassing selfish display where pippen quit on his team. The Knicks came back from 21 pts down. If kukoc didn't hit that it was ot & the Knicks had the momentum. If they had won the bulls were toast going down 2-0. They lost the series btw in 7. The Knicks destroyed them in game 7. The next year b4 mj returned the bulls were below .500. When mj returned they were only the 5th seed & lost. Mj hadn't gotten his legs under him after 18 months away. Pippen never won a thing again after he left the bulls. If pippen was drafted by any other team their is no way he would have been on the dream team , selected after the bulls won their 1st title. In fact the only play pippen is memorable for is dunking on an already falling back Ewing then stepping over him taunting him then pointing in spike Lee's face. So all those years so many bulls playoff games he has only one memorable hi light & it's really b/c he of the there of being that brazen. The guy just didn't have any kind of killer instinct. The " migraine " game. Mj was beside himself that they were in game 7 vs the pistons & pippen sits out for a migraine? OK yes I know migraines are horribly painful. But his was brought on by stress ergo no killer instinct. His selfishness I've mentioned above. On top of which quite a few players back in the day said pippen was not worth the hype both Barkley & Larry Johnson each said pippens best play was passing to no. 23. I used to think they were crazy until I really researched pippen. Individually during pippens playing prime years their were at least 15 small fwds better head to head. I think a semi recent show where Isiah Thomas talked about the omission from the dream team said it all " if magic & bird & Jordan don't want me alright but scottie pippen ??? Scottie pippen ?!? Man go to the park . " Lol. Basically the 3 greats he can live with but pippen is no where near zekes or the other 3 to say a word. U could have put any above average player next to mj & he was winning. The guy made it to the playoffs in only his 2nd year & dropped 69 on the mighty Celtics & the bulls had nobody. So put any good player in the backcourt & mj was winning a title. Btw w/ pippen it took mj 8 years to win a title. Plus pippen is an ungrateful snake. To sell a book he trashes mj. W/o mj scottie never would have made that ridiculous contract in a sign & trade to Houston.
In fact over both their NBA careers pippen wound up making more than mj. How sad this man whined about being in mjs shadow yet when he writes his book about his life the whole thing is about mj & its selling point is mj. I think that says it all about how " great " pippen was. Him on the dream team over Isiah Thomas is a travesty. Isiah has every box checked in his career except dream team. When the college players were sent Isiah was selected in college but that year for world serious reasons the US did not participate. So many of the dream team members did play for the US & win an Olympic medal. I believe Isiah was on dream team 2 way past his prime & nobody cared about dream team 2. Theirs only only dream team esp being that it had bird & magic on it thr 2 guys thst saved the almost bankrupt NBA & mj who built on that & took the NBA into the stratosphere. Sad b/c Isiah didn't shake mjs & the bulls hands he was penalized for life. So who was pippen to trash Isiah Thomas. A man who scored 25 pts on a sprained ankle in the 88 finals.
Yeah ownership did him a huge disservice during a time where the salary cap was at an all-time low which allowed ownership to penny pinch with players they deemed “not worthy” or “not valuable”.
However Scottie was also a shitty teammate and person during this time to the point where he blame deflected so much in situations where h made a toxic situation even worse. We can honestly say both parties were horrific in a very toxic relationship
This is such an excellent point. this really is one of the rare occasions where BOTH sides were really at fault. Management really penny pinched with Scottie (and good lord, he signed that extension at a horrible time...as you pointed out, when the salar cap was at an all-time low, and well before the lockout in 1999, when the rookie wage scale was renegotiated), and Pip also signed that awful deal when everyone told him not to. He then compounded that by being a terrible teammate as you pointed out, and then the Bulls continually dangled his name in trade rumors. Seriously, this was just SUCH a great beef!
It’s amazing this team won like it did.
Clara Morris is the best. I always look forward to listening to her on Secret base. Also, the fact that the Bulls were able to win despite all the dysfunction surrounding this team is a testament to how great MJ was. I don't believe any other team could win under these circumstances