Love the shout out to BEK wheels! Based in Utah now and the owners of that company are really dope people. Come hang next time you’re in the US!! We will put you up in one of our houses for sure. Solid scene here with over 30 skateparks within 2 hours drive
I prefer square profile on anti and I dont get any train track feeling unless i choose it by having the weight centered between the wheels. Anti requires a different technique than flat. The traintrack reference always come from people who goes directly from flat to anti without changing their technique.
I pretty much only skate anti. I never considered the train track feeling a dig, it's just a fact. If you skate flat bullets the maneuverability does indeed make anti feel like train tracks, but that's generally a good thing for grinds and clean looking lines.
@@JustAnotherBlader yeah ive tried tons of wheels. But as i said i dont have any problems with square profile, its all about where you place the weight on the wheels. For flat i would go for bullet though:)
When you turn on anti do you do foot over foot or do you actually try and carve by slightly lifting the front wheel and keep pressure on the back wheel as you turn? I tried anti but I found I would slip and slide out on that back wheel when trying to turn.
@@AWS-Blading yeah. I rarely have weight on all wheels at the same time. It depends on type of carve, can be front wheel on one and back wheel on the other as well. But mostly loaded on the front wheels.
I think the square profile works better for frames with thicker frame walls but also tight h-block grooves like the Kizer Fluid 5s. I think it's so there is some urethane that can still make contact with the ground before the frame touches and possibly slips out.
Flat profiles are better for rough terrain and overall stability. Yes bullet profiles are more forgiving for wheel bite but not as stable and in the streets they are horrible
I was skating aeons with square outside wheels and bullet inside. It was a really good setup because it stopped me pronating and was more solid and stable and without the wheelbite. I went back to all bullets because of how fast the squares were wearing down and because having the different profiles kind of felt like anti when turning
Stoked to see the wheels working for you! I've been frustrated so many times about aeon releases with square profile wheels. It makes no sense to release a skate built for riding flat with a square profile wheel!
For the wheels I use ( 80mm to 110mm) as a mostly urban and fitness skater I think the original profile lasts so short (like 2 weeks of 3 or more skating sessions) that it doesn't really matter however I do prefer the wheel to have the most flat profile if possible as that means there is a little more wheel to wear.
I'm with you, I hate square profile wheels. My first time skating them was with Aeons and it immediately felt so odd to me. But, as others have pointed out, they are definitely more stable so I get it.
Knees unfortunately often take several “rebuilds” to get just right, tis a real pain in the ass… 🤷♀️ or rather knee lol! I’ve torn my meniscus in both knees pretty much beyond repair, my right doesn’t cause too many problems, too often but my left is a freaking mess. If I’ve been skating a bunch for a few months in a row it gets to a point where the only thing that gets it better is long periods of rest. Here’s to my third rebuild on it, hope it finally heals!
Love the video as always. I had a bad knee and have started getting physio for it to try and help it. I could send you some exercises or advice they guy gave me. I would recommend going for some physiotherapy if you can.
I actually love Square profile wheels, however they are not good in bigger sizes unless you skate anti-rocker. I buy square profile in 54-56 millimeter with a big grooved frame. The Them frame or 50/50 prime frames are my go to for those kinds of wheels. Keep these videos coming, Brandon.
i love my uc 59mm "superbullet" wheels. with xsjado mook frames i dont have wheelbite and still oksized wheels for streight line speed. the short frame is great for turning aswell
square profiles are good for anti-rocker skaters, they want to skate straight to the obstacle they don't want to wiggle. they don't need to swivel they just need to get to the spot grind and skate away... so for flat skaters that want that anti-rocker trackie feel just roll flat and all square and when you go straight you will go perfectly straight 🤣
I use to ride flat profile wheels thinking it would get me more wheel life. Then I tried face wheels and haven’t gone back. Like you said night and day. I might try out flat 54 eulogy on prime frames. But that’s the only setup I have any interest in with flat profile wheels.
@@BrandonDrummond Thanks. It is, but it's not 100% yet. Day to day I don't feel it but when I go skating I can feel some slight discomfort, reminding me it's still there. But I can feel the tiny improvements from week to week. Where's your foot at? Or is it mostly your knee bothering you?
@@suryadnb Thats good. My feet are fine as long as I don't jump off things too much and I wear supportive or soft shoes. My knee is the major problem now.
It’s why I can’t get on the Dead train. They have no taper on the sides, it’s like someone just chopped them like cucumbers haha. I like the 58mm face profile wheels by Balance Distribution. Also Redeye Witzemann 55mm wheels are flat profile but still have a curved/tapered side so it’s still is forgiving on grinds.
I hate the fact there's barely any good square wheels on the market... I roll freestyle on Trigger frames. I dislike rounded and bullet as I mostly grind and do gaps. My go to wheels are the Zack Savage 58mm of Gawds right now. But I would like to see a 60mm square profile wheel as I like the Martina wheels but they are a bit rounded... I would start doing squats/yoga as you are still a pretty high up in your grinds. Getting lower will help. Check out the skater Stephane Mosselmans for inspiration: ua-cam.com/video/Jn7slJ5ATm8/v-deo.html
@ronny12301 can't really speak to big gaps on them... but for power transfer and park skating they are a game changer.. they make a normal wheel feel like skating in mud... so much faster and more control. Just be sure to get them with bearings installed... save yourself the headaches..
Square wheels are good for learning on. Wider face, higher stability. But once you get balance. turning, and stopping down... toss those wheels and never get squares again, honestly.
Or just skate anti-rocker, because that's why anti-rocker setups exist. You're getting wheel bite, because you're on a ledge, this is a physics thing, not a "wheel" shape thing man... Skate GCFLT3's -- 4's are for parks and coping, but not square weird ledges.
Love the shout out to BEK wheels! Based in Utah now and the owners of that company are really dope people. Come hang next time you’re in the US!! We will put you up in one of our houses for sure. Solid scene here with over 30 skateparks within 2 hours drive
I prefer square profile on anti and I dont get any train track feeling unless i choose it by having the weight centered between the wheels. Anti requires a different technique than flat. The traintrack reference always come from people who goes directly from flat to anti without changing their technique.
I pretty much only skate anti. I never considered the train track feeling a dig, it's just a fact. If you skate flat bullets the maneuverability does indeed make anti feel like train tracks, but that's generally a good thing for grinds and clean looking lines.
Have you actually tried bullet or face profile on anti? It was a significant difference for me.
@@JustAnotherBlader yeah ive tried tons of wheels. But as i said i dont have any problems with square profile, its all about where you place the weight on the wheels. For flat i would go for bullet though:)
When you turn on anti do you do foot over foot or do you actually try and carve by slightly lifting the front wheel and keep pressure on the back wheel as you turn? I tried anti but I found I would slip and slide out on that back wheel when trying to turn.
@@AWS-Blading yeah. I rarely have weight on all wheels at the same time. It depends on type of carve, can be front wheel on one and back wheel on the other as well. But mostly loaded on the front wheels.
I think the square profile works better for frames with thicker frame walls but also tight h-block grooves like the Kizer Fluid 5s. I think it's so there is some urethane that can still make contact with the ground before the frame touches and possibly slips out.
Honestly slipping out from the frame wall touching is way worse then getting wheel bite 😆
Flat profiles are better for rough terrain and overall stability.
Yes bullet profiles are more forgiving for wheel bite but not as stable and in the streets they are horrible
Square wheels are my favorite for toe/heel rolls
I also noticed it’s much harder to heel/toe roll with bullet profiles
I need to test how much harder they are on these bullet wheels
I was skating aeons with square outside wheels and bullet inside. It was a really good setup because it stopped me pronating and was more solid and stable and without the wheelbite. I went back to all bullets because of how fast the squares were wearing down and because having the different profiles kind of felt like anti when turning
Square profile wheels don't suck they are meant for anti-rocker setups, and that's the way I roll.
Stoked to see the wheels working for you!
I've been frustrated so many times about aeon releases with square profile wheels. It makes no sense to release a skate built for riding flat with a square profile wheel!
I'm never going to be able to unsee that now 😆
For the wheels I use ( 80mm to 110mm) as a mostly urban and fitness skater I think the original profile lasts so short (like 2 weeks of 3 or more skating sessions) that it doesn't really matter however I do prefer the wheel to have the most flat profile if possible as that means there is a little more wheel to wear.
I'm with you, I hate square profile wheels. My first time skating them was with Aeons and it immediately felt so odd to me. But, as others have pointed out, they are definitely more stable so I get it.
Knees unfortunately often take several “rebuilds” to get just right, tis a real pain in the ass… 🤷♀️ or rather knee lol! I’ve torn my meniscus in both knees pretty much beyond repair, my right doesn’t cause too many problems, too often but my left is a freaking mess. If I’ve been skating a bunch for a few months in a row it gets to a point where the only thing that gets it better is long periods of rest. Here’s to my third rebuild on it, hope it finally heals!
I hope this rebuild goes smooth for you. Cheers for sharing
landing feels much more stable to be with square wheels
That is a huge difference I noticed switching to flat, landing drops is WAY more dificult 😆
Also hill bombs are much more scary.
Love the video as always. I had a bad knee and have started getting physio for it to try and help it. I could send you some exercises or advice they guy gave me. I would recommend going for some physiotherapy if you can.
I actually love Square profile wheels, however they are not good in bigger sizes unless you skate anti-rocker. I buy square profile in 54-56 millimeter with a big grooved frame. The Them frame or 50/50 prime frames are my go to for those kinds of wheels. Keep these videos coming, Brandon.
That does sound good, the smaller wheel should doge the ledge better and the square profile will keep the stability.
Cheers for the support!
I like square profile for vert skating, or anything where you're going fast enough to get wheel wobbly problems
That makes heaps of sence. I've been going to the vert on these wheels and everything has felt a littke more slippery.
i love my uc 59mm "superbullet" wheels. with xsjado mook frames i dont have wheelbite and still oksized wheels for streight line speed.
the short frame is great for turning aswell
Face profile is the best for me, more controlled roll than bullet but better for grinds than round or flat profile.
square profiles are good for anti-rocker skaters, they want to skate straight to the obstacle they don't want to wiggle. they don't need to swivel they just need to get to the spot grind and skate away... so for flat skaters that want that anti-rocker trackie feel just roll flat and all square and when you go straight you will go perfectly straight 🤣
I wonder how comparable that would be in practise 😆
The way i skate all my wheels always end up with a square profile anyway 🤣
I wonder if that is how all wheels end up
I use to ride flat profile wheels thinking it would get me more wheel life.
Then I tried face wheels and haven’t gone back.
Like you said night and day.
I might try out flat 54 eulogy on prime frames. But that’s the only setup I have any interest in with flat profile wheels.
I've see a couple people mention face wheels now, what are they?
@ look at 5050 58mm wheels.
It’s basically a bullet profile that has a flat tip.
Bullet are my absolute favorite for flat.
Shoutout to my homies at TNEC and BEK!
If you have small wheels, there's a lower chance of your soul plate hitting the ground when turning with square wheels.
I do hate that too. Good point! I hope your foot is feeling better 🙏
@@BrandonDrummond Thanks. It is, but it's not 100% yet. Day to day I don't feel it but when I go skating I can feel some slight discomfort, reminding me it's still there. But I can feel the tiny improvements from week to week. Where's your foot at? Or is it mostly your knee bothering you?
@@suryadnb Thats good. My feet are fine as long as I don't jump off things too much and I wear supportive or soft shoes. My knee is the major problem now.
@@BrandonDrummond Sorry to hear that is still an issue. Shouldn't happen at your age!
Greetings from the skateboarding community. I'd kill for a spot like that.
Cheers for watching! I hope one like this pops up for you.
It’s why I can’t get on the Dead train. They have no taper on the sides, it’s like someone just chopped them like cucumbers haha. I like the 58mm face profile wheels by Balance Distribution.
Also Redeye Witzemann 55mm wheels are flat profile but still have a curved/tapered side so it’s still is forgiving on grinds.
Why do fintness skates even exist?
Waxing the top of the ledge, classic aeon trick
Brandon, I don't skate, but I watch all your videos because they are entertaining and informative. Thanks for the content
that's so funny, I never thought about blade channels having appeal to nonskaters. I guess I blade but still watch skateboarding youtubers
I used the skate when I was younger but I watch the channels now though I haven't skated in many many years.
This is crazy to hear, I always fear I am keeping things too niche. Thanks for watching 🙏
Flat profile only good for anti
I hate the fact there's barely any good square wheels on the market... I roll freestyle on Trigger frames.
I dislike rounded and bullet as I mostly grind and do gaps.
My go to wheels are the Zack Savage 58mm of Gawds right now. But I would like to see a 60mm square profile wheel as I like the Martina wheels but they are a bit rounded...
I would start doing squats/yoga as you are still a pretty high up in your grinds. Getting lower will help. Check out the skater Stephane Mosselmans for inspiration: ua-cam.com/video/Jn7slJ5ATm8/v-deo.html
After a few sets of aluminum core wheels I gotta ask... why bother making any other type? 😂.. everyone has their type of wheel they like.. ha
I always wanted to skate aluminum core wheels, but I don't know if they are (or I, lol) gonna resist gaps and drops without getting dents
@ronny12301 can't really speak to big gaps on them... but for power transfer and park skating they are a game changer.. they make a normal wheel feel like skating in mud... so much faster and more control. Just be sure to get them with bearings installed... save yourself the headaches..
Square wheels are good for learning on. Wider face, higher stability. But once you get balance. turning, and stopping down... toss those wheels and never get squares again, honestly.
Or just skate anti-rocker, because that's why anti-rocker setups exist. You're getting wheel bite, because you're on a ledge, this is a physics thing, not a "wheel" shape thing man... Skate GCFLT3's -- 4's are for parks and coping, but not square weird ledges.
Gawds square profile wheels are hands down the best. The round/cone wheels are gawd awful.