I think the brilliant part about that Eurus reveal is that when u actually look, its simply just a wig, contacts and some makeup, and still most people didn't catch on, the actress "Sian Brooke" is amazing
and glasses (and the glare in the glasses) and the way the lighting was used and the way the scenes were shot. I think it's mostly the costume/makeup department and "camera magic" that succeeded in making her unrecognizable. Not to mention, the plot is going so quickly with loads of flashbacks.
That final scene between John and Mary's phantom is even more bittersweet when you take into consideration Martin Freeeman and Amanda Abbington's real life break up.
Yeah I did. I remember saying to my Dad who I was watching with "Faith & the therapist really look alike dont you think" but then even though i could see it I completely dismissed it as similar actors or even the same actor playing different characters. *facepalm*
"Now your looking for the secret, but you won't find it, because you're not really looking for it.... you want to be............fooled" Michael Caine, The Prestige
The vast majority of people didn't guess that "Faith" was Bus Girl and ofc Eurus! Toby Jones the villain seemed to be like a mix of Jimmy Savile and H H Holmes. I like how you caught onto the nice connection between Sherlock assuming John had a brother and John doing the same. I guess it really is a testament to the actress that we didn't guess! I felt Faith and Bus Girl seemed completely normal but the therapist's wig/voice did seem sorta janky to me though of course I couldn't guess!!!
Now try and watch Harry Potter knowing that man (Toby Jones) also provides the voice for Dobby. Or imagine Dobby delivering Culverton Smith's lines.....
it is crazy story telling, because it is Moffatt and Gatiss who write for doctor Who and run it doing the same stuff. Making you crazy with random stuff. LOL I loved season 4 of Sherlock. A lot. Also, that was Toby Jones who played the villain. He also played the Dream Lord in season 5 (I know you have already watched that, so it is not a spoiler) of Doctor Who. He is very good at creepy.
Roger O'Donnell People believe the saying, "People see what they want to see" - but it is actually as you said, it's what they expect to see. System 1 thinking.
Roger O'Donnell And people in places. Have you ever been somewhere and a friend sees you, but you don't see them? I do. If you don't expect to see them at a certain place then you won't see them. Or at a place at a certain time. Amazing how we accept things without questioning then. A doctor in a hospital for example. The brain filtering out everything unimportant and blinding us to thinks. Powerful bit of kit.
Wonderful editing to show the drugs, the disorientation, so necessary to the story. But I have a similar reaction to needles, not as far as fainting. I just can't stand to see them go in.
I don't think anyone saw the reveal coming. Only if you watch it back to back or have a degree in criminology or psychology. I didn't, but when watching at the time we had a week of a wait which helped the reveal. The way they hid the real Faith in the beginning, never getting a good look at her face. Just the glasses, hair, lipstick, voice and dress. You just though it was the same woman. Brilliantly done and always part of the story. The full circle back to the first episode with John's sister and the villain. Hiding in plain sight. The build up to the twist was there and to be fair in other series. Like when Mycroft said "You know what happened to the other one" in His Last Vow. You focus on the story you don't realise the build up to the twist. Beautiful written the story resolves itself, you think the end is here then bang twist time. Can't wait to see your reaction for the next one.
The character Eurus doesn't actually exist in the books. She was inspired by the last dialogue of the last story. Sherlock says: "There's an east wind coming, Watson.", in reference of the WW1.
Toby Jones was also, of course-The Dream Lord in 'Amy's Choice' and turned-up in 'Captain America'. Apparently this character was inspired by an American serial Killer from the 1900s who had a 'Death House' purposefully built with inner mazes, traps etc so he could kill people at ease! Jones and Mackenzie (Pirates of the Caribbean') Crook are good in 'Detectorists' which is a rather more light-hearted show about two treasure-hunting friends.
Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss have a way of keeping their audience off-balance. I appreciate all of your reactions. All of your insights and intuitions. Thank you.
Don't worry. Most people didn't noticed they were the same person. The weird thing at the beginning of the episode I thought the therapist and Faith (the real one in Culverton's office) looked really similar lol
Did not one person understand the ending??? The first episode of Sherlock, John uses a cane because of a mental condition. This episode he sees his dead wife, because of a mental issue. Sherlock helped correct and fix those issues. That was why he said im Sherlock Holmes i wear the damn hat... Then when John looked back she was gone.
I hate needles too. And I didn't notice that the woman was the same actress. Look up the name Jimmy Saville to get the inspiration for this villain. One of the biggest monsters who ever lived.
I really like this episode, but all of the John and Mary stuff doesn't really work for me. Mary's whole "go to hell" thing makes no sense unless Mary is a total freaking sociopath, and I just don't buy that John is so mad at Sherlock for something he really didn't do. Outside of that though it's well directed, well acted, and engaging. Savor it while it lasts because the next episode is a gigantic mess.
28:22 should be a meme......sorry I had to come back, because I am about to watch your final reaction and I am so happy for you. Thank you for your reaction it was as brilliant as the show itself
I loved the scene with Mary reminding John that she really was dead. It just feels so weird that Stephen Moffat can do that so well in Sherlock, but in Doctor Who, even when someone dies, they always come back. 'I am dead', is a chilling line, and it should be, actions should have lasting consequences. On a lighter note, I loved the reveal of Hudders as the driver. >_
Different demographic - 'family' viewing compared to 'adult'. Moffat has spoken at length, reapeatedly, on the subject. Having said that, there's nothing in Sherlock my late mother wouldn't have allowed me to watch as a child, but then, her favourite Christmas film was Die Hard, and, as I discovered when I was clearing things at her house, she had a bigger collection of direct to video 90s action films than me and my friends combined (I knew she liked them, I just didn't know the magnitude of the collection), so perhaps I'm not really a shining example.
You are always so positive! I disliked this episode so much, but you made me see good things too. I can't wait to see what you'll think of next week's episode, because I really love that.
Though I have mixed feelings about the writing of Season 4, I can confidently say that Mrs. Hudson being a badass is one of my favourite things to happen on Sherlock.
A really irritating episode where the writers disappear up their own fundament piling unreliable narration on unreliable narration. It's not actually that hard to follow but it is annoying. Toby Jones is rather good
Each to their own - a little of it is fine by me but in this case the whole episode just became an exercise in pulling variations on the same twist to the extent that I found that took precedence over just telling a story. It was what seemed like the final triumph of style over substance - or writers just plain showing off.
Don’t worry about not noticing that those three characters were all the same actress - I think EVERYBODY did the same, and went “How the hell did I not see that?!” :-D
Where are all the Emmys for this episode? Really thought Ben, Martin, and Sian deserved some recognition. One of my favorite moments is the scene with the kids, where Sherlock realizes that John is starting to believe him. And he gives a little smirk. Heh. I've said it before, but I cannot stand to see Martin Freeman cry. Nope. Can't do it. And how much has Sherlock grown? Can you imagine S1 Sherlock comforting John like that?
Show of hands, who else thought for a split second that the fake psychiatrist was going to be Andrew Scott in a wig? Also, I thought it would turn out that Sherlock had been given the memory drug and that's why he was having trouble remembering. But then that didn't happen. :P
There are some wonderfully used editing, filming and writing techniques in this episode which brilliantly misdirect the viewer from making the connection that all three women are played by the same actress whilst never actually hiding her from view. It also helps she is very good at playing all three so differently and establishing their personalities in a short space of screen time. This episode is loosely based on the short story, Adventure of the Dying Detective, in which Sherlock feigns he is dying to ensnare Culvert into trying to finish him off and confess his murder of his nephew, which he does. But when the police arrive Culvert points out his word in court is as good as Sherlocks, only for Watson to emerge from behind the drapes as witness- paid homage to in this episode by having the recording device in Watsons cane. As others have pointed out this has been adapted to reflect the terrible real life situation at the BBC of its national star and once national treasure, charity raiser and do-gooder Jimmy Saville- who turned out to be one of the most horrific predatory pedophiles in British criminal history, using his position, celebratory and charity works as cover for his crimes and getting away with it until his death. Even though they made Culvert a serial killer instead the parallels are clear, it was a brave script to present to the BBC in one of their own flagship global shows.
Your reactions are the absolute best. A few of my faves: "NoooooooNoooooNooNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoooooooooo! ... Noooooo!" "What the fuck is happening? Whatthefuckishappening? Whadafukishappning?!"
27:13 That's the powerful notion that the creators relied upon. After all, how often do you watch an actor on television or films BEFORE they are famous? And, all of a sudden, you look back and see them in a lot of stuff you've watched in the past?
Great reaction. This episode is a pastiche on an original story called The Dying Detective. It might be in that book a kind subscriber sent. I didn't notice the shrink was the other 2 but I did spot bus woman was the fake daughter.
I love the part where you say, "She ain't no snitch!" I cracked up so much. Also, I knew needles made you uncomfortable, but I didn't know that they bothered you this much. I'm sorry you had to go through that discomfort. I'm now rethinking shows that I have recommended to you...
That ok, one of my best friend has a fobia to needles too. When we went to see Logan he had a realy hart time there is a needle every 15-20 min. There once one in with he had to got out for abit. But yea I di miss her to until Sherlock meet the real sister of this crazy guy n did not look like the one that went to see him. The moment o saw John’s therapist I notes it was the same woman.
I think the brilliant part about that Eurus reveal is that when u actually look, its simply just a wig, contacts and some makeup, and still most people didn't catch on, the actress "Sian Brooke" is amazing
and glasses (and the glare in the glasses) and the way the lighting was used and the way the scenes were shot. I think it's mostly the costume/makeup department and "camera magic" that succeeded in making her unrecognizable. Not to mention, the plot is going so quickly with loads of flashbacks.
George Alexander awesome thing is, Sian actually auditioned for 3 roles and then realised that it was actually one role.
Hahaha I mean to be fair I wasn't watching half of the episode because of fear of needles but still I doubt I would've seen it.
A combination of great acting, great make up, and properly varied wardrobe made that reveal something for everyone to enjoy.
Because people see but do not observe. Lol
That final scene between John and Mary's phantom is even more bittersweet when you take into consideration Martin Freeeman and Amanda Abbington's real life break up.
Don't feel stupid. I don't know anyone who notice those women were all the same person.
My dad did. Well he noticed that Faith and the therapist were the same person. Not the woman from the bus though.
I only noticed the same voice b/w chips evening spend girl and therapist. But overlooked.
I did except I just thought they were played by the same actress
i didnt tbh
Yeah I did. I remember saying to my Dad who I was watching with "Faith & the therapist really look alike dont you think" but then even though i could see it I completely dismissed it as similar actors or even the same actor playing different characters. *facepalm*
No one noticed she was all the same woman don't worry... it's one of those hiding in plain sight things
I mean I kinda did but I just thought. Oh it’s the same actress
One of my fav episodes
Don't worry, none of us noticed that Sherlock's sister was the same woman.
I want to break free... I WANT TO BREAK FREE!
Mrs. Hudson the beast in this episode.
If there's not a spin-off of Mrs. Hudson's life, I will be very disappointed.
NOBODY noticed. That was the point.
Barely anyone noticed it, don't worry.
At least now the "an east wind is coming" quotes from other eps are realised
No one noticed that it was the same actress, don't worry
"Now your looking for the secret, but you won't find it,
because you're not really looking for it....
you want to be............fooled"
Michael Caine, The Prestige
Best episode of season 4.
When she said mycroft has a ❤️
Mycroft is my favorite....I love him so much!
@@sesskasays same!
"Of course not, I was on the phone"
I love her.
The vast majority of people didn't guess that "Faith" was Bus Girl and ofc Eurus!
Toby Jones the villain seemed to be like a mix of Jimmy Savile and H H Holmes.
I like how you caught onto the nice connection between Sherlock assuming John had a brother and John doing the same.
I guess it really is a testament to the actress that we didn't guess! I felt Faith and Bus Girl seemed completely normal but the therapist's wig/voice did seem sorta janky to me though of course I couldn't guess!!!
Now try and watch Harry Potter knowing that man (Toby Jones) also provides the voice for Dobby. Or imagine Dobby delivering Culverton Smith's lines.....
Robin Hislop. toby was also the dream Lord in doctor who
Robin Hislop w h a t
The facial expressions from 25:09 onwards were wonderful.
it is crazy story telling, because it is Moffatt and Gatiss who write for doctor Who and run it doing the same stuff. Making you crazy with random stuff. LOL
I loved season 4 of Sherlock. A lot.
Also, that was Toby Jones who played the villain. He also played the Dream Lord in season 5 (I know you have already watched that, so it is not a spoiler) of Doctor Who. He is very good at creepy.
"You're not my first smack-head Sherlock Holmes." Such a turn around from rescuing her from CIA operatives.
Robin: Yeah, but she was faking her reaction in that episode and managed to hide the phone from them.
Everyone needs 'Mrs Hudson is Queen' on a t-shirt!
he's making a funny face... loved it
People see what they expect to see...
Roger O'Donnell People believe the saying, "People see what they want to see" - but it is actually as you said, it's what they expect to see. System 1 thinking.
Roger O'Donnell
And people in places. Have you ever been somewhere and a friend sees you, but you don't see them? I do. If you don't expect to see them at a certain place then you won't see them. Or at a place at a certain time. Amazing how we accept things without questioning then. A doctor in a hospital for example. The brain filtering out everything unimportant and blinding us to thinks. Powerful bit of kit.
Told you so lol.. The next episode is freaking beautiful & be ready for tears, lots of them
Don't be hard on yourself, very few noticed until the big reveal.
I swear everyone’s acting levels in this episode went up 200% everyone gave it there all
I didn’t notice her all over either!
Wonderful editing to show the drugs, the disorientation, so necessary to the story. But I have a similar reaction to needles, not as far as fainting. I just can't stand to see them go in.
I don't think anyone saw the reveal coming. Only if you watch it back to back or have a degree in criminology or psychology. I didn't, but when watching at the time we had a week of a wait which helped the reveal. The way they hid the real Faith in the beginning, never getting a good look at her face. Just the glasses, hair, lipstick, voice and dress. You just though it was the same woman. Brilliantly done and always part of the story. The full circle back to the first episode with John's sister and the villain. Hiding in plain sight. The build up to the twist was there and to be fair in other series. Like when Mycroft said "You know what happened to the other one" in His Last Vow. You focus on the story you don't realise the build up to the twist. Beautiful written the story resolves itself, you think the end is here then bang twist time. Can't wait to see your reaction for the next one.
The character Eurus doesn't actually exist in the books. She was inspired by the last dialogue of the last story. Sherlock says: "There's an east wind coming, Watson.", in reference of the WW1.
You're not the only one who didn't put it together until the end.
Toby Jones was also, of course-The Dream Lord in 'Amy's Choice' and turned-up in 'Captain America'. Apparently this character was inspired by an American serial Killer from the 1900s who had a 'Death House' purposefully built with inner mazes, traps etc so he could kill people at ease! Jones and Mackenzie (Pirates of the Caribbean') Crook are good in 'Detectorists' which is a rather more light-hearted show about two treasure-hunting friends.
Just think how famous you would be in the “reactor space” if you actually caught yourself fainting on camera.
Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss have a way of keeping their audience off-balance. I appreciate all of your reactions. All of your insights and intuitions.
Thank you.
The bad guy was the dream guy in the Amy's Choice Doctor Who episode.
Yeah and no one noticed the actress in three roles. Really well done
I don't think anybody noticed tbh. I can't wait for the next episode!
Don't worry. Most people didn't noticed they were the same person. The weird thing at the beginning of the episode I thought the therapist and Faith (the real one in Culverton's office) looked really similar lol
Did not one person understand the ending??? The first episode of Sherlock, John uses a cane because of a mental condition. This episode he sees his dead wife, because of a mental issue. Sherlock helped correct and fix those issues. That was why he said im Sherlock Holmes i wear the damn hat... Then when John looked back she was gone.
I was completely hoodwinked, I had no idea it was the same women until the reveal.
I hate needles too. And I didn't notice that the woman was the same actress. Look up the name Jimmy Saville to get the inspiration for this villain. One of the biggest monsters who ever lived.
Season three has no chill!
Yeah I didn't notice her either.
A very good episode! I enjoyed it!
I really like this episode, but all of the John and Mary stuff doesn't really work for me. Mary's whole "go to hell" thing makes no sense unless Mary is a total freaking sociopath, and I just don't buy that John is so mad at Sherlock for something he really didn't do.
Outside of that though it's well directed, well acted, and engaging. Savor it while it lasts because the next episode is a gigantic mess.
Mary is a sociopath that was said at the end of last season
28:22 should be a meme......sorry I had to come back, because I am about to watch your final reaction and I am so happy for you. Thank you for your reaction it was as brilliant as the show itself
Mrs Hudson is queen
None of us noticed it. That's good acting for you.
Did nobody notice the torchwood Easter egg
2:17
Yeah, me too
Watch him in the TV Series The Hollow Crown
You aren't the only one. A lot of people didn't catch on.
Hey, what happened to Black Mirror White Christmas reaction video? Seems to be gone
It was blocked in some countries, but it will be back up soon enough.
dobby has been very bad
None of us noticed it either.
And Eurus ruins the whole thing. It's like Sherlock goes to battle with a cheater.
I soo luv Mrs Hudson
I loved the scene with Mary reminding John that she really was dead. It just feels so weird that Stephen Moffat can do that so well in Sherlock, but in Doctor Who, even when someone dies, they always come back. 'I am dead', is a chilling line, and it should be, actions should have lasting consequences. On a lighter note, I loved the reveal of Hudders as the driver. >_
Different demographic - 'family' viewing compared to 'adult'. Moffat has spoken at length, reapeatedly, on the subject.
Having said that, there's nothing in Sherlock my late mother wouldn't have allowed me to watch as a child, but then, her favourite Christmas film was Die Hard, and, as I discovered when I was clearing things at her house, she had a bigger collection of direct to video 90s action films than me and my friends combined (I knew she liked them, I just didn't know the magnitude of the collection), so perhaps I'm not really a shining example.
Thank u
Miss Me..?!
"But... like Molly"
YEAH ME TOO!!!! SHERLOLLY SHIPPER FOREVER! 😆😆😆😆
how will you take your vaccine
Do More doctor who reactions 😁
The game's afoot...
You are always so positive! I disliked this episode so much, but you made me see good things too. I can't wait to see what you'll think of next week's episode, because I really love that.
I don't like molly
I'm sorry
I'm a johnlock shipper
Black Mirror is the Greatest show on in her channel...ANY Black Mirror episode destroys this episode of every facet of filmmaking."
Though I have mixed feelings about the writing of Season 4, I can confidently say that Mrs. Hudson being a badass is one of my favourite things to happen on Sherlock.
This episode is the most annoying yet....but with one good twist..... they should have stopped after season 2.
A really irritating episode where the writers disappear up their own fundament piling unreliable narration on unreliable narration. It's not actually that hard to follow but it is annoying. Toby Jones is rather good
WolfGratz i really enjoy that kind of playing with narration
Each to their own - a little of it is fine by me but in this case the whole episode just became an exercise in pulling variations on the same twist to the extent that I found that took precedence over just telling a story. It was what seemed like the final triumph of style over substance - or writers just plain showing off.
Don’t worry about not noticing that those three characters were all the same actress - I think EVERYBODY did the same, and went “How the hell did I not see that?!” :-D
Where are all the Emmys for this episode? Really thought Ben, Martin, and Sian deserved some recognition.
One of my favorite moments is the scene with the kids, where Sherlock realizes that John is starting to believe him. And he gives a little smirk. Heh.
I've said it before, but I cannot stand to see Martin Freeman cry. Nope. Can't do it. And how much has Sherlock grown? Can you imagine S1 Sherlock comforting John like that?
I meant for acting. Benedict was the only one nominated for acting, but Riz Ahmed won instead.
Show of hands, who else thought for a split second that the fake psychiatrist was going to be Andrew Scott in a wig?
Also, I thought it would turn out that Sherlock had been given the memory drug and that's why he was having trouble remembering. But then that didn't happen. :P
Don't worry about not noticing that all 3 were the same person, most people didn't. They did a good job at making her look different.
this episode is really emotional. i cried when john cried.
There are some wonderfully used editing, filming and writing techniques in this episode which brilliantly misdirect the viewer from making the connection that all three women are played by the same actress whilst never actually hiding her from view. It also helps she is very good at playing all three so differently and establishing their personalities in a short space of screen time.
This episode is loosely based on the short story, Adventure of the Dying Detective, in which Sherlock feigns he is dying to ensnare Culvert into trying to finish him off and confess his murder of his nephew, which he does. But when the police arrive Culvert points out his word in court is as good as Sherlocks, only for Watson to emerge from behind the drapes as witness- paid homage to in this episode by having the recording device in Watsons cane.
As others have pointed out this has been adapted to reflect the terrible real life situation at the BBC of its national star and once national treasure, charity raiser and do-gooder Jimmy Saville- who turned out to be one of the most horrific predatory pedophiles in British criminal history, using his position, celebratory and charity works as cover for his crimes and getting away with it until his death. Even though they made Culvert a serial killer instead the parallels are clear, it was a brave script to present to the BBC in one of their own flagship global shows.
"How did I not notice that!"...it's Moffat we never do
Your reactions are the absolute best. A few of my faves:
"NoooooooNoooooNooNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoooooooooo! ... Noooooo!"
"What the fuck is happening? Whatthefuckishappening? Whadafukishappning?!"
Culverton was in the last episode too. He was on a poster behind Scottish Eurus at the bus stop. I hope you enjoy the next episode.
27:13 That's the powerful notion that the creators relied upon. After all, how often do you watch an actor on television or films BEFORE they are famous? And, all of a sudden, you look back and see them in a lot of stuff you've watched in the past?
Admit it, everytime you see Culverton in this episode, you imagine him saying "Hail Hydra!"
Great reaction. This episode is a pastiche on an original story called The Dying Detective. It might be in that book a kind subscriber sent. I didn't notice the shrink was the other 2 but I did spot bus woman was the fake daughter.
It is okay to look now.......yeah, you are right, it does not work
I love the part where you say, "She ain't no snitch!" I cracked up so much. Also, I knew needles made you uncomfortable, but I didn't know that they bothered you this much. I'm sorry you had to go through that discomfort. I'm now rethinking shows that I have recommended to you...
Hahah oh god! I expect fair warning next time! Lol jk
I agree, I don't think Sherlock would work well with Irene. Besides, the show has been pushing him towards Molly.
Great reaction! Thank you, thank you, thank you! 👍
The Reason Sherlock is strange at times is because it's the same script writers who do Doctor Who.
"How did they not notice that?" - well... did YOU notice?
I actually said "How did I not notice that?" so you know....calm down.
That ok, one of my best friend has a fobia to needles too. When we went to see Logan he had a realy hart time there is a needle every 15-20 min. There once one in with he had to got out for abit. But yea I di miss her to until Sherlock meet the real sister of this crazy guy n did not look like the one that went to see him. The moment o saw John’s therapist I notes it was the same woman.
1:11 you see the flying trash can? It kills me every fucking time...😂
Both thought it is as it is... and let there be an imaginary friend
Yes! I have food and Starbucks, time to watch
Don't worry, you weren't the only one who didn't notice. I couldn't believe I didn't know
You can look now