I COMMEND YOU for your efforts...............i started by dragging small cedar logs down hill by hand to be able to get to the 4wd blazer thhat took them the distance.
Up to this point most of my logs have been moved without heavy equipment. Not easy but doable. I use ramps and a come along to roll logs up on the trailer. I subscribed!
Ok for those little twigs, had ground, and round straight logs. Try something 4 foot thick, and kind of egg shaped. We have to use all those tricks, and a machine.
I'm looking for ways to stack the wood without heavy equipment, perhaps with cant hooks and Peaveys. Is this a fool's errand, or are there some options?
Certainly there are options, but it will depend on your setup, resources, and creativity. We have used our truck to pull heavy items, horses have traditionally been used to “roll” logs up using a chain or cable wrapped around the log. I highly discourage standing on a pile or being anywhere near the pile when the logs are rolled up. The pile is not stable and will settle as those logs roll up onto it. Long chains, and long cables are important to allow you to be away from the pile.
The primary purpose of the paint is to seal the ends of the logs a bit to prevent them drying too quickly at the ends, which causes uneven drying and splitting of the wood. In this particular video, because we were working with wood species that were new to us, and we had so many logs of different species, we opted to use a different color for each type of wood (until the paint ran out 😁) to help identify it later. There are better sealants made specifically for this purpose, but the clearance paint rack at our local stores is an option that works for us.
There are a number of logging supply companies around the United States that would offer these items for sale. We also found several of our tools used from private individuals.
Using low range on the truck gives you more useable power/torque, it's easier on the truck and especially more control because it won't launch once the log breaks loose and starts moving.
With the exception of the orange cant hook, which we got from woodmizer, we actually found our cant hooks and chains at estate auctions and a friend who used to log gave us the large tongs. That said, you can find them at lumber mill stores, logging supply stores, and online. You just have to shop around.
I used to move 2000 pound bags of grain by putting metal pipes under the pallets and rolling them on my trailer floor. The same method can be used to get a log up a ramp. Put a ramp to the back of the truck and use a come-along to winch it up the ramp. Putting metal pipes or small round fence posts under the log will allow it to roll up the ramp easily. As one rolls out the back just bring it to the front. I’ve loaded onto trailers that way.
Personally, my mill won’t fit anything near that size. I generally handle logs 3000 pounds and below. However, assuming this hemlock is around 21,000 lbs you’ll probably need 4-5 men to roll it with cant hooks. Assuming your mill can handle that size log, and it is positioned on flat ground or downhill grade, I would utilize men and/or horse power, and wedges, to maneuver the big log, perpendicular, onto a series of small diameter, long poles (round fence posts or other small, smooth logs could work). The log could then be pulled with horses and the men could take the poles that roll out the back and run them to the front of the log. It’s essentially a rolling track, but you have to manually move each pole to the front of the log as a one spits out the back. The direction of the log can then be easily changed by wedging a fulcrum under the center of the log as needed. Hope that helps!
Cant hooks or peaveys are a must for moving logs. I found my best cant hook at an auction for $2. I wouldn’t know how to manually move logs without these tools.
Ok, now show me how to do it with a 35ft log with a wicked curve in it. There’s a boulder buried deep right in front, but only a couple inches of it are in the way of the log. It needs to go into the ocean, a mere three inches away, but more like 3 feet away to get it in far enough to float. The beach has mild 1:25 grade, loose shale and rock. Surely you see the problems: no solid purchase under the log for the peavey pole. No anchor point in the direction we want to go for a winch. Small but immovable obstruction directly in front. Super heavy log, not very conducive to rolling due to curvature.
If high tide doesn’t move it you’ve got two options. One is a chainsaw. The other involves a very long lever arm (I used a 14’ steel horse tongue) and successively higher platforms. It’s a long explanation but I’ve been able to lift several tons vertically this way. However, 35 feet is a long at 16” diameter would be approaching 2 tons.
@@ADifferentWay yup. Our estimate is roughy 2-3 tons. Last high was 12ft and it was touching the water. Sep 20th we’ll have a 12’ 5”, which MIGHT be enough to float it. We’ll bring a jack-all and some dunnage and try to boost-shim-boost-shim above the boulder, then maybe persuade it to fall over on the ocean side…. Might be enough. Otherwise it’s wait till Xmas for King tide. Chainsaw means changing it from a $400 salvage to a $50 salvage, if that. Thanks.
You got my "Like" just because your cat is so chill.
LOL! Welcome to the channel. And we agree, we have pretty cool cats! 😸
superb sir, u r providing such a valuable content, great job, keep doing more
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I like the video, greetings from Hungary!
Thanks for sharing!
I COMMEND YOU for your efforts...............i started by dragging small cedar logs down hill by hand to be able to get to the 4wd blazer thhat took them the distance.
exellent work!
hope you get to 10k soon, 2 800lb dollies is what I move logs with, along with log jacks and sinch straps. same principles.
Cat stole the glory with it’s balls of iron. Also, excellent video.
Thank you❤😊
Thank you
Thank you for this, I’m hoping to move some heavy stones soon without spending too much money.
You’re welcome 😊
Cool Cat!
Wow I never saw a logging cat before!
That cat not only logs, he helps with every project on the farm whether or not I need it.
Thank you this hellped
great video, Hopefully the finger healed up nicely since then!
Yes, it did. 😁
Informative and encouraging.
Happy to see an alternative to the machine heavy modern concept.
Thank you.
Subscribed.
DOUGout
Welcome and glad it helped!
good lessons there , an electric jack under your log feeder frame would make it a lot safer on your fingers to load your logs in the mill ,
Interesting and useful. By the way: I've seen people in the wood business making the same mistake for decades: too much logistics for each log.
Up to this point most of my logs have been moved without heavy equipment. Not easy but doable. I use ramps and a come along to roll logs up on the trailer.
I subscribed!
Ok for those little twigs, had ground, and round straight logs. Try something 4 foot thick, and kind of egg shaped. We have to use all those tricks, and a machine.
I'm looking for ways to stack the wood without heavy equipment, perhaps with cant hooks and Peaveys. Is this a fool's errand, or are there some options?
Certainly there are options, but it will depend on your setup, resources, and creativity. We have used our truck to pull heavy items, horses have traditionally been used to “roll” logs up using a chain or cable wrapped around the log. I highly discourage standing on a pile or being anywhere near the pile when the logs are rolled up. The pile is not stable and will settle as those logs roll up onto it. Long chains, and long cables are important to allow you to be away from the pile.
So... when you paint the log ends, is that so you can know what type of wood it is? And so you know its soft or hard wood?
The primary purpose of the paint is to seal the ends of the logs a bit to prevent them drying too quickly at the ends, which causes uneven drying and splitting of the wood. In this particular video, because we were working with wood species that were new to us, and we had so many logs of different species, we opted to use a different color for each type of wood (until the paint ran out 😁) to help identify it later. There are better sealants made specifically for this purpose, but the clearance paint rack at our local stores is an option that works for us.
wow 10000 is a great goal
Where can I get some gool tools? A cant and log tongs, for example.
There are a number of logging supply companies around the United States that would offer these items for sale. We also found several of our tools used from private individuals.
Using low range on the truck gives you more useable power/torque, it's easier on the truck and especially more control because it won't launch once the log breaks loose and starts moving.
Where do you get the tools you use?
With the exception of the orange cant hook, which we got from woodmizer, we actually found our cant hooks and chains at estate auctions and a friend who used to log gave us the large tongs. That said, you can find them at lumber mill stores, logging supply stores, and online. You just have to shop around.
How would you get a sizable log that you can’t lift into the back of your truck?
I used to move 2000 pound bags of grain by putting metal pipes under the pallets and rolling them on my trailer floor. The same method can be used to get a log up a ramp. Put a ramp to the back of the truck and use a come-along to winch it up the ramp. Putting metal pipes or small round fence posts under the log will allow it to roll up the ramp easily. As one rolls out the back just bring it to the front. I’ve loaded onto trailers that way.
How would you move a 48 inch diameter 40 foot long Hemlock that weighs several tons?
Personally, my mill won’t fit anything near that size. I generally handle logs 3000 pounds and below. However, assuming this hemlock is around 21,000 lbs you’ll probably need 4-5 men to roll it with cant hooks. Assuming your mill can handle that size log, and it is positioned on flat ground or downhill grade, I would utilize men and/or horse power, and wedges, to maneuver the big log, perpendicular, onto a series of small diameter, long poles (round fence posts or other small, smooth logs could work). The log could then be pulled with horses and the men could take the poles that roll out the back and run them to the front of the log. It’s essentially a rolling track, but you have to manually move each pole to the front of the log as a one spits out the back. The direction of the log can then be easily changed by wedging a fulcrum under the center of the log as needed. Hope that helps!
thousand pound log on truck? cat gives zero f-uu-X. what a champ
Is some of that oasge orange?
No, the stack consisted, primarily of yellow poplar, Hickory, and red oak. We also had a little white oak and maple mixed in.
They should call them, YesICan hooks
I think you saved me a few thousands dollars and more gas in the atmosphere 🙏
What if you don't have the hooks?
Cant hooks or peaveys are a must for moving logs. I found my best cant hook at an auction for $2. I wouldn’t know how to manually move logs without these tools.
Show me how to move my 6 foot diameter Douglas fir logs up a hill in mud
We used our team of horses for that job!
Ok, now show me how to do it with a 35ft log with a wicked curve in it. There’s a boulder buried deep right in front, but only a couple inches of it are in the way of the log. It needs to go into the ocean, a mere three inches away, but more like 3 feet away to get it in far enough to float. The beach has mild 1:25 grade, loose shale and rock.
Surely you see the problems: no solid purchase under the log for the peavey pole. No anchor point in the direction we want to go for a winch. Small but immovable obstruction directly in front. Super heavy log, not very conducive to rolling due to curvature.
If high tide doesn’t move it you’ve got two options. One is a chainsaw. The other involves a very long lever arm (I used a 14’ steel horse tongue) and successively higher platforms. It’s a long explanation but I’ve been able to lift several tons vertically this way. However, 35 feet is a long at 16” diameter would be approaching 2 tons.
@@ADifferentWay yup. Our estimate is roughy 2-3 tons. Last high was 12ft and it was touching the water. Sep 20th we’ll have a 12’ 5”, which MIGHT be enough to float it. We’ll bring a jack-all and some dunnage and try to boost-shim-boost-shim above the boulder, then maybe persuade it to fall over on the ocean side…. Might be enough. Otherwise it’s wait till Xmas for King tide.
Chainsaw means changing it from a $400 salvage to a $50 salvage, if that.
Thanks.
I came here to find out about moving a large log. 38" diameter. very disappointed in this video with small logs
that sounds like your problem buddy jesus christ