Moving Heavy Logs Without Modern Hydraulics
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Here's a little primitive technology that takes "impossible" out of the equation. It's a rope trick that makes life a lot easier and increases our personal level of self-reliance.
I've used your trick to clear trails in the woods in Washington state so many times now thanks to you, and every time someone sees me do it they are astonished.
THANKS A BUNCH!
The most rewarding times that I’ve seen in my life is when you are completely alone,and need to do something it takes two people to do....
After some serious profanity,a cigarette,and a beer....this is the kind of thing a guy can come up with....
It’s a truly awesome thing....
Determination,and inventiveness.
Gumption. I don’t know how I can do this, but I know that I can.
Drinking is dumb
Thanks! I’m 70 and I usually work by myself. You just gave me some valuable practical information! 😎👍
That is so stupidly simple and effective! I’d have never guessed they’d roll so easily using such a simple method. I could hear your wife in the background operating the camera. I’m a few years older then you and so appreciate my wife sharing life with me eagerly taking interest, participating, and assisting in my projects. Love is ageless. Continue to “rejoice with the wife of your youth.”
they roll downhill really good
To change direction, roll the middle of the log onto a smaller log to be used as a pivot, almost no effort expended.
Yep we do that to or use a face cut..
People would be very surprised what you can do with a 11,000 pound (tensile strength) bull rope, 6ft of chain, snatch block(s), one pry bar, and a truck. Up here in the Rockies we start gathering standing dead Pine Firewood at 9,400 ft elevation in Boulder County, CO. . No mosquitoes!! We start in August when the temps are at comfy air conditioning levels like 68 degrees or lower. In heavily Wooded alpine forests. When we first started without snatch blocks and had to go tree to tree on incline and often had to run up the mountain to switch trees to get a straight run down to the road. Firewood gathering up here is an essential part of life here. It’s survival at its finest. We love doing it. Two men, one to maneuver through the forest one to pull it with the F150. We have a 10,000 lb Warn Winch on the Front of this truck but it’s SLOW. We only use that winch when pulling very large logs UPhill. We use minimal gear and has worked for us the last 11 years. Some may call it log skidding. What we’re essentially doing is a homemade trader system. I highly recommend this life. Great video sir. Much appreciated.
I need to move 6 large logs about 20 yards over level grade to position them on top of each other to serve as a bullet stop for the shooting range. This old school moving tactic and a few others will come in handy! You can never dismiss an idea that always works! Great vid.
Smart, not hard. Love this! Great job brother 👊
Outstanding! Great practical knowledge. Thanks!
Thank you David for sharing your knowledge. I applied that technique moving some heavy oak logs into a platform and it worked wonderful.
Glad it was useful for you. ATB David
Thanks David this was very helpful with good ideas for moving and turning logs by myself. Excellent!
thanks for sharing. On our 5 acre property I do have a fair amount of trees that I remove. Even if I mill the logs in place, the end result is having a heavy piece to move to the drying rack.
As I move pieces that are typically 12 feet long, rolling becomes impractical as I don't have a wide area to roll. I do use a mechanical assist in the form of a log arch which works extremely well and I can hand pull even across uneven terrain. thanks again. stay healthy, stay safe
You are a great fella to watch, listen to your advice, and keep things simple but end up with great results. Glad to have you teach this tip to keep in my pocket in case I do end up with my own piece of land like yours and turn trees into lumber. My thanks, my best wishes and intentions to you, and just keep your face looking toward the sun for you deserve none but the best there is left in this world sir.
Thank you. And all the best to you as well.
Thumbs up. Thanks for sharing your idea.
This is an awesome video! Thank you for sharing.
Great idea, thanks.
Very simple procedure when you know how - thanks for sharing - this is great!
You are welcome.
I've not rolled logs, but I've rolled a few utility poles that way. Two guys with ropes on each end can roll and turn pretty darn quick.
Nice trick! Thanks.
Subscribed... Thats some great tip.
that was nothing like i expected and looked very easy ty Sir
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After watching this I tried it and busted my rear because my frayed rope broke. After using a decent rope I did it. Now, if the log is not to heavy I use this method and just leave my winch alone. Thanks for your help
So glad I saw this video. Had a 30” oak fall straight across the right of way to our camp property. After getting it sized down to 14’ I was able to use my 1” nylon rope to my 5k winch and easily rolled the beast of the road…instead of dragging it. What an effort savor.
That's fine for smaller logs. For larger, much heavier logs, I use the ole flip-flop winch. It's slow and tedious but it works and when you're one man working alone, you gotta do what you gotta do
Accent sounds just like my uncle from west virginia. Good tip generally. I got a bunch of junk logs dropped off at my property recently by an Arborist. He did be the disservice of stacking them a mile high and I'm having huge difficulties getting some of the logs down. But this technique helped me move some of them at least.
This "rope trick" also works for putting the log on the mill. Boards for ramps, two people and a rope at each end. Tie off one end of the rope to the mill frame and pull from the other side. If there's only one person, pull one end a foot or so at a time and tie the rope off to the mill frame or some other anchor, then do another foot on the other end, roll it right on up!
Very Effective method.
I also use a rope and a sturdy six foot branche as a lever to pull it in the length direction.
Nice demo stuff like this keeps trades alive.
Roll the center of log onto a small branch. Spin log to face any direction by hand with EASE...........
Thanks buddy that's very helpful.
Thank you very much
I'll keep you posted on how this works out 🇺🇸
Thank you!!
I've had logs about 40 ft from my mill with no tractor. And I had two 100 ft ropes.
2 stakes pounded in secure at mill at either end of bunks, 1 rope tied to each stake and both run to a log, under and back to mill. Pull the ropes, steering log as necessary left or right. Repeated for 12 logs. Was so easy I almost sold my tractor. Not.
Tried that this morning after watching this video. 👍.
Pretty cool. You just have to have open area to roll it. Great Job!
That might be the coolest thing I ever seen
Thank you!!!!
If you tied the rope ends together so that it's a closed loop you could roll it continuously without having to keep adjusting it when you come to the end of the rope.
ahhh I am gonna try that way :-)
That won’t work at all. He basically made a clove hitch and is walking the log over. If you tie the rope together it won’t have a bite on the log and it’ll just pull around the log.
You would have to wrap it around the log.
@@jbonaccorsi he just needs weight to hold it steady while the rope tightens up. For the one in the video the weight of the log does that.
I improved on this method slightly. I wrap the rope under twice, then get a good 15 get back from the log so I'm nice and safe. I then wrap one bitter end around my waist and tie a bowline where I'm in the bite of the bowline sort of like a tug of war anchor. Then I pick up the other end, pull the slack out, brace my waist/lower back against the bite, then haul with my arms. After three log moves a few feet I take a few steps back to take up the slack again and repeat. Worked very easily for me.
Great job man,and great video to the wife 😁👫team work!♥️👫
I've moved lots of very heavy logs in my 4 years off grid--- oak, cedar, sweet gum, pine, and river birch. I put 26' trees over a creek for a footbridge and even a 40' high bay shipping container over the creek for a bridge. I've been working on a hybrid log home and have some really big ones on that for the frame and roof rafters. I only use simple mechanics, come alongs, vehicles, ratchet and tow straps, steel cables and pulleys and almost always by myself. Sometimes I will put logs, poles, or boards down to use as rails it can ride on easier. The shipping container I used boards as rails and logs on that the container rolled on... You kinda have to believe it can be done first, then try and out smart the situation.
Your rope trick I have not used exactly like that. I barely tried it a couple times, usually with a strap. Tow straps are cheap and very strong and ratchet straps double as come alongs. I got the idea from old drawings of pioneers moving logs up into place on log cabins. You build a ramp up the cabin wall with 2 logs on either side, then roll the log you want uo there with wound up rope and a few men or a horse...
Be careful and take it easy out there. I hope I'm still doing what I love out there at your age.
i homestead in the mountains of MD. I'm just starting to fell trees and mill lumber. Trying to do with as little equipment as possible. I'm glad to know others are still doing the same. (at least 2 years ago)
@@bebophippie1781 still doing it now. House and land paid off. No utility bills.
Yep 2 percent rule
Hey, this faint idea just came to me a couple of days ago and.... Wola, this video appeared in my logarithm.
Also, watching you perform this I saw if you tied the two ends of the rope together you won't ever run out of rope!!
Genius. Thx
Oh wow,so simple..thanks.
Have you ever heard of a flip-flop winch? if not check it out 👍
Heck, that’s neat. I’ll be using this technique where I can, instead of waiting for help.
It will get it done.
Ive had good luck with laying a pole or small log on the ground crossways to the log that i wanted to move. Then i can roll the one i want balanced accross the ones i laid down.
Not good for every situation, but makes you feel like superman when it works.
I've been looking through the comments for this tip before posting it myself - happy to see someone else does this. I learned this when I was trying to position logs for the mill as well. I now have a tractor, but I STILL do this occasionally when it's not easy to maneuver the tractor into position.
@@tada-us1rf
Nice.
Nice job god bless
People who dislike this are too stupid to appreciate the beauty of this video.
Thanks for this video! What is the tool that you're using with the grip to roll the log onto the rope?
Log peavey with a cant hook.
If you tied the ends of the rope together, you'd have a continuous loop and wouldn't need to stand on the rope and the rope could be much shorter.
Dick proeneke would use a triangle picking up each end working it till he got to his destination
brilliant
Very good ah leverage is so powerful
It was unexpected, I was sure he will attach ropes to some kind of device..unbelievable!
It's amazing what a person can do on their own. Thanks for stopping by, Little Girl.
Thanks, David. This is called a parbuckle.
Awesome
seems to work good when rolling it downhill, how does this work on level or uphill?
I WAS JUST GOING TO COMMENT THE SAME...😁
@@bobt471
It works good uphill. Still harder than downhill, but easier than skidding.
Nice. one for the little guy.
To turn the log you maybe roll it onto a piece of wood in the middle like a see saw than just rotate the log
See I’d tie the ends of the rope together that way you can shorten the length of it and be able to keep going perpetually.
Not "Huckleberry Hill". funny stuff
That's using Brain over Braun......good vid..
Got to do something to outsmart those back busters.
All downhill almost rolled over your feet!!
I noticed that too, its going downhill. Lets see level or uphill.
Just pick it up
What is the name of that instrument he started using together with rope please?
stab your timber jack into ground to pivot your log instead of using the wood chock, it is easier on the back. before you run out of rope, run first part under the log to you wont have to do it again.
How’s this method with larger diameter logs? Great vid though
I have used it to roll 1000 pound logs.
@@DavidKralikOutdoorsThanks for the quick reply! around 12:20 you mention doing a video in the future loading a trailer (I believe parbuckling is the proper term) from the side with ropes. I may be mistaken but I didn't come across that in your list
@@DavidKralikOutdoors seems to only work downhill, when gravity is helping. Can you roll 1000lb logs up a 20% incline?
Thanks! feel stupid for not knowing this
Flintstone dragster?
Simple i like, but i have giant boulders a pretty steep hillside and a creek so its down and up either way big oaks est. 2 tons. Soon be 64 never been more than 130 lbs.
That's what mules are for
Would it be quicker to hook up two Corgi dogs to pull it? 😁 (👍)
that's clever
That is very helpful and ingenious... Truly compliment you however.... If you gave me 20 dollars I would pick up one end of the log standing it straight up and down then lay it on my shoulder and simply walk out of the bush with it. That log isn't 400lbs.... It is about 250 to 275 at the most unless my experience and eyes are playing tricks on me. If it truly is 400lbs then all bets are off.
i was thinking the same. i like the rope idea, but the bush around here is too thick for that kind of business. you'd spend all day getting the rope untangled from everything. logs that size I just caber them out, tip them up on end and drop down the direction I want to go, tip and drop, until i'm out where I can grab them with log tongs.
Now how do you lift it?
@@DavidKralikOutdoors thank you sir, I'm looking to build a log cabbin
@@okie_outlaw Check our Survival Sherpa. Todd Walker is in the process of building a small cabin using primitive tools.
Old school skills
Work smarter
Not harder
I had a bundle of railroad ties snap and roll down hill over me, there's nothing to stop that weight once it wants to start going right over you. Tore my achilles heal tendon and turn my foot inside out over the back of the heel. Logs do what they want.
OUCH!
Will that work with a chain?
I suppose it would, though I don't know what the advantage would be.
Well I'll be...!! I can see now how you got to be so grey headed... It took so long to move that there thing. Golly i almost turned grey myself just a watching you.
He’s nothing special, you know. Just your average genius
I like this guy but there’s no way that’s 3000 thousand pounds!
David Hardy 😂 Science
I wonder if you couldn’t tie the ends of the rope into a loop and run it continuously
should work you should need less rope
Please be my grandpa youre so cool
Brains and testosterone the ultimate multi tool.
A simple 2:1 pulley system could have be demonstrated in about 30 seconds.
Chainsaw and carry??
Its not firewood
*- Nice!*
*- Find the laziest engineer around to solve the impossible problems, right?*
Mechanical advantages, not hydraulics
Do it with 20 block of granite and solve the pyramid mystery lol......
its been done, look up coral castle & Ed Leedskalnin. theres some old videos of him lifting 15 ton blocks with a chain hoist and tripod
mosquitoes in nov lol
I could pull it with my pony.
Ha
Give me a peavy and I'll move a log
yer logs goin to be rotten before you get them to the mill.
Thos!e are not heavy logs! I need to move 6000# logs
I'm
Very
Sure is easy when you have almost nothing in the way but when you have to remove the trees from in a wooded area that procedure is worthless
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I can do all that without using a single thing. Get someone else to do it!
This is cute and all but utterly useless when there’s rough terrain or other logs etc in the way.
For goodness sake move along in your films a bit faster. Otherwise I will either die from boredom or apoplexy. I don’t have enough time left to waste watching a 13 minute video that could be done nicely in 3 minutes. I also don’t have enough time left in my life to provide the constructive criticism needed by everyone on UA-cam. However, thanks for the suggestions.
Yet you waste time commenting your hateful words💀
@@joeymarsh5571 Ditto.