This was fascinating, thank you again. Went and bought 'Messengers of Deception' to atone for my lack of Tau Cross in my collection (always loved Amebix, just went through a strange period of not looking up new music). Also please do a discussion with Rich I'd love to hear his insights on our current situation.
Was unable to catch it live despite trying to make it in time. But I'm glad it's up here and on Odysee. Awesome conversation, and you really got around and into some interesting topics. Thank you both for this
Thank you for this interview. The segment when Rob says the need to risk it all to speak his mind and stand by it at all costs is something I am having to tackle now, too. I hate it but it does seem like I’d rather go alone than continue to be associated at all with any scene that allows these rules to control the output of artists. Thank you both. Stand by the truth.
And thank you for standing by truth also. Both Rob and I have found that we've gained so much from 'risking it all'. We gained one another as friends, for a start.
Wonderful information here. One thing that popped into my mind with the Lash take on Gnosticism is the Buddhist take on Maya/Illusion, which is essentially created by our inability to note things as the actually are, which from a Pagan take would essentially be cyclical like Nature. Instead we try to lock onto falsehoods and then further latch onto the emotions that arise from our inability to accept reality. We act as the demiurgic force each time that we buy into fiction, and this builds the walls of the simulation. -Just as these poor fools are riding their wave of self aggrandizing holier than thou attitude based on what are essentially the shadows on the wall of the Platonic cave...meanwhile the rest of us are holding back tears because they refuse to go outside and see the Sun.
good point, From the Lash perspective he would say that the Archontic infection is at the root of that perceptive shift, those that have been aligned with the Archons either inadvertently or intentionally are bound into a synthetic World View,hence their general inability to create anything new,but masters of replication.
@Gandalf the Grape - I'm honestly not deleting or blocking you. YT obviously deems your comments to be insulting or against their T&Cs. Personally, I'd like to see your comments appear so I can tear them apart publicly.
Fantastic to find your channel and to listen to this wonderful conversation. Will be listening to your recent chat with Rob also. Have you considered reaching out to John Lamb Lash and having a "round-table" conversation with him and Rob? Am looking forward to going through your catalogue of videos on YT.
Thanks Scottie. Glad you enjoyed it. I know Rob is quite friendly with John, so perhaps that could be arranged. I feel like it would turn into a sermon though, with Rob and I as more passive participants, haha.
@@ginnythwaite I mean 'sermon' in a good way. As in, John is so knowledgeable with so much to say, that I'd be reluctant to even break his flow :) I have nothing but respect for the man.
There is not such a thing as "Judeo-Christian". It's either Christian or Jewish. The fact is, that the term Judeo-Christian is a modern and misleading term invented by US Neocons. Today, people mindlessly toss this term around without knowing what they're talking about. Christianity and Judaism, although sharing Hebraic roots, are two distinct religions that differ fundamentally in their core doctrines/tenets.
The fact is: They share Hebraic roots. Therefore 'Judeo-Christian' is a legitimate term. The Old Testament is the foundation text of both religions, therefore they share an origin.
@@fyrgen Not it's not. Nowhere in Church history, Christians used the term Judeo-Christian. This term was coined in the USA by Neocons. In the New Testament, Christians were referred to as Christians by others and by themselves. Christianity was an illicit religion in Rome, whereas Judaism a recognized and privileged religion.
Well actually The term "Judæo Christian" first appears in a letter by Alexander McCaul which is dated October 17, 1821. The term in this case referred to Jewish converts to Christianity. The term was similarly used by Joseph Wolff in 1829, in reference to a type of church that would observe some Jewish traditions in order to convert Jews. Nietzsche also used the term and so did George Orwell in 1939. It was used in the USA in the 1930s and 40s to express opposition to communist atheism. It was in the 70s that the term was associated with the Christian right in the US. The rise of antisemitism in the 1930s led concerned Protestants, Catholics, and Jews to take steps to increase mutual understanding and lessen the level of antisemitism in the United States. In this effort, precursors of the National Conference of Christians and Jews created teams consisting of a priest, a rabbi, and a minister, to run programs across the country, and fashion a more pluralistic America, no longer defined as a Christian land, but "one nurtured by three ennobling traditions: Protestantism, Catholicism and Judaism. The phrase 'Judeo-Christian' entered the contemporary lexicon as the standard liberal term for the idea that Western values rest on a religious consensus that included Jews.
Excited about the topics but the background delay speaker repeat is really distracting. Please can you try to sort that for the next one - earphones, muting while the other is speaking, directional speakers and microphones are some ways to sort this
i was an amebix fan in my teens!
Thanks Rob. He is completely on point here. I have just caught onto the themes running through our system. And can’t unsee it.
This was fascinating, thank you again. Went and bought 'Messengers of Deception' to atone for my lack of Tau Cross in my collection (always loved Amebix, just went through a strange period of not looking up new music). Also please do a discussion with Rich I'd love to hear his insights on our current situation.
“When a man lies, he murders some part of the world.” - Merlin
total support to the baron miller! hails from mexico!!
Great discussion, thank you. Love listening to Rob.
This was well worth my time guys..much needed discussion..wonderfully articulated..all the best to you both..peace and love
Thank you for saying so. Glad you liked it.
Had the pleasure of interviewing Rob last year and saw the Odysee link of this earlier, great discussion, lovely stuff lads!!!
Good to hear there are still people who will stand for what they belive instead of cave to rabid dogs. Thank you Dan and Rob.
Was unable to catch it live despite trying to make it in time. But I'm glad it's up here and on Odysee.
Awesome conversation, and you really got around and into some interesting topics. Thank you both for this
Thanks Hal. Glad you enjoyed it.
Thank you for this interview. The segment when Rob says the need to risk it all to speak his mind and stand by it at all costs is something I am having to tackle now, too. I hate it but it does seem like I’d rather go alone than continue to be associated at all with any scene that allows these rules to control the output of artists. Thank you both. Stand by the truth.
And thank you for standing by truth also. Both Rob and I have found that we've gained so much from 'risking it all'. We gained one another as friends, for a start.
We can also associate through email if you’d like!
@@Guenonymous Feel free - fyrgen@protonmail.com
Watched on odyssey came here just to comment .fantastic talk .really enjoyed it.
Excellent content, thank you
Great chat gentlemen, Amebix were part of my life as a teenager
Fantastic discussion. All my support from Dublin.
Wonderful information here. One thing that popped into my mind with the Lash take on Gnosticism is the Buddhist take on Maya/Illusion, which is essentially created by our inability to note things as the actually are, which from a Pagan take would essentially be cyclical like Nature. Instead we try to lock onto falsehoods and then further latch onto the emotions that arise from our inability to accept reality. We act as the demiurgic force each time that we buy into fiction, and this builds the walls of the simulation. -Just as these poor fools are riding their wave of self aggrandizing holier than thou attitude based on what are essentially the shadows on the wall of the Platonic cave...meanwhile the rest of us are holding back tears because they refuse to go outside and see the Sun.
good point, From the Lash perspective he would say that the Archontic infection is at the root of that perceptive shift, those that have been aligned with the Archons either inadvertently or intentionally are bound into a synthetic World View,hence their general inability to create anything new,but masters of replication.
otherworldly creatues and all that bollocks - thanks for a great laugh. and rob - please get your marbles back together.
Subbed, will be watching more
@Gandalf the Grape - I'm honestly not deleting or blocking you. YT obviously deems your comments to be insulting or against their T&Cs. Personally, I'd like to see your comments appear so I can tear them apart publicly.
Fantastic to find your channel and to listen to this wonderful conversation. Will be listening to your recent chat with Rob also. Have you considered reaching out to John Lamb Lash and having a "round-table" conversation with him and Rob? Am looking forward to going through your catalogue of videos on YT.
Thanks Scottie. Glad you enjoyed it. I know Rob is quite friendly with John, so perhaps that could be arranged. I feel like it would turn into a sermon though, with Rob and I as more passive participants, haha.
@@fyrgen I appreciate you considering it -and in whatever format you may consider!
@@fyrgen Sermon from who? Lash doesn't roll that way... Ollin Rob if you see this message!
@@ginnythwaite I mean 'sermon' in a good way. As in, John is so knowledgeable with so much to say, that I'd be reluctant to even break his flow :) I have nothing but respect for the man.
@@fyrgen Ah right, that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.
There is not such a thing as "Judeo-Christian". It's either Christian or Jewish. The fact is, that the term Judeo-Christian is a modern and misleading term invented by US Neocons. Today, people mindlessly toss this term around without knowing what they're talking about. Christianity and Judaism, although sharing Hebraic roots, are two distinct religions that differ fundamentally in their core doctrines/tenets.
The fact is: They share Hebraic roots. Therefore 'Judeo-Christian' is a legitimate term. The Old Testament is the foundation text of both religions, therefore they share an origin.
@@fyrgen Not it's not. Nowhere in Church history, Christians used the term Judeo-Christian. This term was coined in the USA by Neocons. In the New Testament, Christians were referred to as Christians by others and by themselves. Christianity was an illicit religion in Rome, whereas Judaism a recognized and privileged religion.
Well actually The term "Judæo Christian" first appears in a letter by Alexander McCaul which is dated October 17, 1821. The term in this case referred to Jewish converts to Christianity. The term was similarly used by Joseph Wolff in 1829, in reference to a type of church that would observe some Jewish traditions in order to convert Jews. Nietzsche also used the term and so did George Orwell in 1939. It was used in the USA in the 1930s and 40s to express opposition to communist atheism. It was in the 70s that the term was associated with the Christian right in the US.
The rise of antisemitism in the 1930s led concerned Protestants, Catholics, and Jews to take steps to increase mutual understanding and lessen the level of antisemitism in the United States. In this effort, precursors of the National Conference of Christians and Jews created teams consisting of a priest, a rabbi, and a minister, to run programs across the country, and fashion a more pluralistic America, no longer defined as a Christian land, but "one nurtured by three ennobling traditions: Protestantism, Catholicism and Judaism. The phrase 'Judeo-Christian' entered the contemporary lexicon as the standard liberal term for the idea that Western values rest on a religious consensus that included Jews.
Covid did vanish overnight and I still see people wearing masks this far on 😂😂😂
Excited about the topics but the background delay speaker repeat is really distracting. Please can you try to sort that for the next one - earphones, muting while the other is speaking, directional speakers and microphones are some ways to sort this
It eases after the first couple of minutes.
So did the Holocaust happen or not? Im going to ask Kanye.
I did NAZI that coming
Miller knows the truth.
Interviewer needs to pipe down and let his guest talk
It wasn't an interview. It was a discussion.
It was a great discussion and you both had interesting things to say.
This conversation is proof of the failure of compulsory education. I blame the state.
You are incorrect
Such a well-spoken holocaust denier.
When has he denied the holocaust you utter liar?