I'm a lot more excited for Valtan now. These look so fun. Reminds me of World of Warcraft tier sets basically and those were my favorite part of World of Warcraft.
Better than "yo chill bro in late game you gonna deal damage" bullshit, if you dont explain why people will keep asking the same question. Thank you Benji, this is by far the best Lost Ark video i've watched since the eu/na release.
Really nice video here. Not sure why I see classes without mana issues using the nightmare set for DPS like Gunslinger when Salvation seems to be a straight upgrade for them - 5% more damage increase and 10% attack speed in terms of DPS upgrades. Dominations appears to have the strongest damage buff but from my understanding, not every class can reach the 2 minute awakening cooldown requirement to maintain 100% uptime on it.
took some time for my boomer brain as well but it's not too bad. the vid might sound confusing because I lay out all these percentages but it all comes down to crit rate set or the damage set in the end.
Nightmare set 4 pieces also consumes 7% of max mp when using a skill... So you cant stay above 30%,. And you losing 42% dmg for cd bonus... playing a spammy class like reflux sorc or loyal comp hawkeye....
When we talk about critt % are we talking about raw 17% extra critt chance or is that like the pet where it gives 10% of what amount of critt rate you have.
2 weeks ago there was a big fuss complaining Argos was too fast, so most likely Valtan will be delayed. It's ok tho, players can allways come back as content get released. Or use the time to work in other things while we wait.
@@einarsa7196 i am chilling at 1345, not pushing anything, selling all my mats for whatever the amount it is since i don't enjoy honning and failing. Doing daily stuff and pvp mostly now. The game is dead to me almost but I like the pvp, sometimes
hmm, so gear set is the reason why the game balance changes at endgame. This is indeed more convincing than what some people were saying (an extra 300 stats point with engraving and tripod being the whole reason behind the endgame balance. I could never see it happen with just those changes). The sad news is there's only one(two??) gear set in NA/EU currently, therefore the game wont get balance until a long while??? Well, I have yet to try all class so I can't deny that gear set is a possible game changing factor later on. P.S Before seeing this video, I had a theory that the game gets balance at endgame because each class had its own skill damage multiplier "something roughly like this: (atk.power+skill.base)*damage.multiplier" which would make some class get more damage increase from higher level honing. This was just a wild guess since the game is made by smilegate, which make epic seven, and which has a weird formula for skill damage.
Hey Benji! Could you make a video talking about Lancemaster? Difficulty to play, gear cost, tankyness, mobility.. these type of stuff. Thank you and keep up the good work!
My main problem with this game is the same issue I have with "those anime people". Its just endless amounts of, "oh you class will be great, you just need to get passed this, get through that, unlock this, unlock that" "yeah the class feels bad until x y z" Rework the fucking classes then. As much as I hate games like black desert online. Within the 1st hour the classes feel amazing, and then you have awakening later that just adds to it. This just has too many layers to feel good. The get through the story to endgame, just get though T1 for gems, just get through T2 for tripods, Just get in to T3.5 for relic gear, just wait till you have your 5x level 3 engravings, Just wait till you have your runes, just wait.... I love the game, but holy fuck some classes are so shit till you meet all these annoying checkboxes.
While I kind of agree that classes can be improved to smooth out the process of reaching true endgame - isn't that a major factor in the satisfaction of progression? As you improve your skills and get gains on your class setup, your class feels better. Also, in other games besides gear pumpers (say the big tab target MMOs - WoW, FFXIV, etc), your classes feel ALOT better in later expansions with more quality of life updates and buttons added. They feel much worse in previous renditions once you've hit the latest thresholds.
It's like that cause in kr the release and updates were slow. So hitting the checkbox wasn't a problem since people usually had chars ready for the new update. In na/eu it's a problem cause we're getting stuff released so fast, we don't get time to catch up. Atleast for newer and casual players. After vultan release i think things will get smoother or hopefully it will get smoother.
So u want all the good things already so u can say "wow this is so bad" whats the point to play a mmo if u dont want to go through a progression of ur character Thas the whole idea of this kind of games...
@@erickalejandro.5271 I don't really think you understand what I was saying. Progression is nice, but some of the classes are just flat out fucking awful at the start and some just keep zigzagging in how they feel. Take paladin, its a class that's sole job is to support. You can't even support anything till you have 3 maxed out engravings. So leveling is shit, start of t1 is shit and then slowly gets better by the end of t1, but then you move in to t2 and you lose all your engravings getting new acc's again so back to not just feeling shit.. but literally being incapable of doing your job. then it happens again at start of t3. That isn't just progression. Its a bad system that could be changed. You can still progress with more swiftness/spec, more cdr on gems, more base stats from upgrading more skill points. These are decent progressions. Keep in mind in KR you just start in t3, so they basically did simple work around for these issues giving you good progression path.
it sounds like bards with awakening engraving will do good with the awakening CD set no? cuz you spam awakenings that give you more of the bar and you can do more 3bar dmg buff
Just curious about wardancers, have one in T3 now as an alt but enjoy their class because its something different from my gunslinger, do you find most builds in KR run Swift/spec? or Swift/Crit? Seems so hard to build up meter for esoteric wardancer if you don't run swift main, spec substat
once we get tier sets you will use the awakening one. youll have crazy cooldown reduction with gems and you will run swift/spec. youll probably have grudge(3), cursed doll(3), awaklening(3), esoteric(1) as a basline with that tier set for really high damage and good skill uptime. youd also switch from the big aoe awakening to the other one to instanty pop it for the buff since u have the damage reduction on the awakening skill.
Swift/spec (600 spec, rest swift) for 2 spenders build. Swift/crit for 1 spender. You can use an awakening potion at the start to speed the rotation up, but it's not mandatory.
1. No investment(no class engraving/esoteric 1): SWIFT/CRIT , sweeping kick, moon flash kick, rising fire dragon (or blast formation with purple galewind) 2. First intention 3 + FOCUS RUNE: SWIFT/CRIT, sweeping kick, moon flash kick, flash heat fang 3. Double spender(esoteric 1/3) + 3 WEALTH RUNES + 2 GALEWIND: SWIFT/SPEC ~700, rising fire dragon/wind god, moon flash kick, blast formation Build 2 is the best until really late T3, Build 1 is built with same skill/tripod as Build 2 only replacing flash heat fang to esoteric skill to solve mana issues, Build 3 is very bad now but highest dmg in end-end-game If you are using first 2 build, please go grudge & keen blunt, you can use them without penalty (combustible armor + roar of courage + wind whisper) If you are missing of runes, the build will not work
Hello. You mention set for Chaos Dungeon. Is there a way to have two sets and still do good damage? At the moment I can only have my honings on one set. Thanks.
You have to enhance both. I guess chaos dung becomes way harder latter on, otherwise, i don't see the point in going for it. Edit: Except for support dps build.
hello, i would love to know how is robust spirit soulfist right now on KR endgame 1500+? by usage % on loawa is pretty low ( really low) and i cant find why, its because its bad or some other classes are straight up just better and people just dropped soulfist?
@@macjoobyung as a main soulfist on NA ( 1380 ilvl rn) i totally get it the stress level . with robust spirit build, i have to calculate the dps burst window + skills rotation+ maybe hitting the ult. and dodge boss skills and do mechanics. another question, is arcana something like that stressful? or arcana feels like sorceress but with the Cards RNG?
quick question should i in the end game buy legendary books of engravings ? not just class one but in general the other ones(dps ones) like keen, curse doll and ambush master for example
I saw the TOP scrappers in KR are almost all Shock builds. Why is it that you are arguing they feel "clunky" without the special enhancements by support classes as Paladin with their set ? Im currently playing a shock build and its pretty straight forward to just do 1x yellow skill to buff your next attack -> use shock skill -> repeat. Is it really better to continously spam yellow skills (with Taiju skillset) or is the dmg difference marginal? Also do damage windows during boss fights matter in later patches? If so... Shock should always be better.
not arguing they are clunky, just saying they could feel slow compared to other classes. shock regen builds go full spec and then crit so zero swiftness. if you can handle it, go for it man
the wardancer gear gonna be dirt cheap cause only her and one other class uses it, now i understand why wardancer is so highly appreciated in kr, very cheap setup besides accessories and good party synergy
And what happens when a new set gets released that isn't ideal for the class? It'll go back to being trash. Gear doesn't fix the inherent issues a class has. It feel like no one understands this and they doesn't think long term. Clothes don't make the man, a underwhelming class will still be underwhelming no matter what they have on. SO PLEASE STOP SAYING A CLASS WILL GET BETTER AT T3.
Sounds like these gear sets are all concurrent, providing a number of options to potentially enhance a class's capabilities. As well, metas change in every game as new gear and class adjustments are introduced, this is just how things are and keeps the games fresh.
I'm a lot more excited for Valtan now. These look so fun. Reminds me of World of Warcraft tier sets basically and those were my favorite part of World of Warcraft.
Better than "yo chill bro in late game you gonna deal damage" bullshit, if you dont explain why people will keep asking the same question. Thank you Benji, this is by far the best Lost Ark video i've watched since the eu/na release.
So is it a random drop to get these sets? Or do you craft them?
@@domothegod9932 crafted.
Really nice video here. Not sure why I see classes without mana issues using the nightmare set for DPS like Gunslinger when Salvation seems to be a straight upgrade for them - 5% more damage increase and 10% attack speed in terms of DPS upgrades. Dominations appears to have the strongest damage buff but from my understanding, not every class can reach the 2 minute awakening cooldown requirement to maintain 100% uptime on it.
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Thank you for this video! So much information I had only the smallest idea even existed.
Thanks Benji, hadn't heard of these and helps with understanding progression to 'real' end game.
Okay this makes endgame more exciting to look forward to!
I can't wait for the mana set. I am struggling so much with mana on my sharpshooters
Same here. Being very careful about my gap closer usage helps a bit, but I still end up out of mana In very high uptime fights.
Thanks Benji! This video really made me fee confidente in WD
we need more info about relic sets man. Amazing job ty
Really informative video, I really enjoyed it.
Very good and informative video benji!
This was dope thanks for the heads up
nice video benji !! cant wait for all these cool sets to be out
more sets, hmmmmm, my monke brain is burning
took some time for my boomer brain as well but it's not too bad. the vid might sound confusing because I lay out all these percentages but it all comes down to crit rate set or the damage set in the end.
Ty
Can you do a video about the ancient gear sets? I know in the west we won't have them for a while but it'll still be nice to see
Wardancer GIGAMOKOKO
Thank u ..
Nightmare set 4 pieces also consumes 7% of max mp when using a skill... So you cant stay above 30%,. And you losing 42% dmg for cd bonus... playing a spammy class like reflux sorc or loyal comp hawkeye....
When we talk about critt % are we talking about raw 17% extra critt chance or is that like the pet where it gives 10% of what amount of critt rate you have.
raw
only the pet is like that. everything else with crit% is actual crit%.
people in NA are rapidly losing interested in this game because all we have is argos. they need to catch us up fast....
2 weeks ago there was a big fuss complaining Argos was too fast, so most likely Valtan will be delayed.
It's ok tho, players can allways come back as content get released. Or use the time to work in other things while we wait.
Yet people cry when they release a boss that people can't even run yet
and what will that do, when u cant even do argos lol....
@@einarsa7196 i am chilling at 1345, not pushing anything, selling all my mats for whatever the amount it is since i don't enjoy honning and failing. Doing daily stuff and pvp mostly now. The game is dead to me almost but I like the pvp, sometimes
I am so curious. What was the average time you learned from your timer to run 6 characters?
It came out to be around 2 hours and 30 minutes iirc
@@jimmyzhang4896 with unas tasks? or just chaos/guardians
@@GTUSBRATE It's with unas, rapport, chaos, guardian. Very optimized with next to zero down time.
the only annoying thing is starting but once u on that tier 3 target its easy. just pick alt that u enjoy so it doesnt feel like a job
I need 3 hours to complete stuff on my two chars. Tooki, events and everything else. Without anguished isle
I thought nightmare set 4 & 6 bonuses were multiplicative with the 2 piece bonus, so it would be +48.12% DMG instead of 42% right? (1.12x1.15x1.15)
that surge DB is spamming sight focus in short intervals less the 30s cd for that engraving , how is that possible ?
Great video
hmm, so gear set is the reason why the game balance changes at endgame. This is indeed more convincing than what some people were saying (an extra 300 stats point with engraving and tripod being the whole reason behind the endgame balance. I could never see it happen with just those changes).
The sad news is there's only one(two??) gear set in NA/EU currently, therefore the game wont get balance until a long while???
Well, I have yet to try all class so I can't deny that gear set is a possible game changing factor later on.
P.S Before seeing this video, I had a theory that the game gets balance at endgame because each class had its own skill damage multiplier
"something roughly like this: (atk.power+skill.base)*damage.multiplier"
which would make some class get more damage increase from higher level honing. This was just a wild guess since the game is made by smilegate, which make epic seven, and which has a weird formula for skill damage.
What set would you recommend future lance masters use to min/max their dps?
ty for the video:)
what are you using to edit it pls? tyvm
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Hey Benji! Could you make a video talking about Lancemaster? Difficulty to play, gear cost, tankyness, mobility.. these type of stuff. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Hi, please any news on Deadeye balance patch ? Is my main in EU but I'm not happy :-(
Hello how do you get those indicators that show the front and back of the gardian boss ty
its part of a korean qol update. I am surprised they didn't just add it to NA/EU on launch it is a huge help for back/front attack classes.
@@deltaoalice9281 ah ty , yes for sure, am playing bade and back attacks are crucial and that looks like a big quality of life improvement tbh
Does Brelshaza drop these sets also? or does she drop a stronger set
My main problem with this game is the same issue I have with "those anime people".
Its just endless amounts of, "oh you class will be great, you just need to get passed this, get through that, unlock this, unlock that" "yeah the class feels bad until x y z"
Rework the fucking classes then. As much as I hate games like black desert online. Within the 1st hour the classes feel amazing, and then you have awakening later that just adds to it.
This just has too many layers to feel good.
The get through the story to endgame, just get though T1 for gems, just get through T2 for tripods, Just get in to T3.5 for relic gear, just wait till you have your 5x level 3 engravings, Just wait till you have your runes, just wait....
I love the game, but holy fuck some classes are so shit till you meet all these annoying checkboxes.
That's the blueprint of the game though. You like that class? Work on it to be great. I'd take that any day to BDO systems.
While I kind of agree that classes can be improved to smooth out the process of reaching true endgame - isn't that a major factor in the satisfaction of progression? As you improve your skills and get gains on your class setup, your class feels better.
Also, in other games besides gear pumpers (say the big tab target MMOs - WoW, FFXIV, etc), your classes feel ALOT better in later expansions with more quality of life updates and buttons added. They feel much worse in previous renditions once you've hit the latest thresholds.
It's like that cause in kr the release and updates were slow. So hitting the checkbox wasn't a problem since people usually had chars ready for the new update.
In na/eu it's a problem cause we're getting stuff released so fast, we don't get time to catch up. Atleast for newer and casual players. After vultan release i think things will get smoother or hopefully it will get smoother.
So u want all the good things already so u can say "wow this is so bad" whats the point to play a mmo if u dont want to go through a progression of ur character
Thas the whole idea of this kind of games...
@@erickalejandro.5271 I don't really think you understand what I was saying. Progression is nice, but some of the classes are just flat out fucking awful at the start and some just keep zigzagging in how they feel.
Take paladin, its a class that's sole job is to support. You can't even support anything till you have 3 maxed out engravings. So leveling is shit, start of t1 is shit and then slowly gets better by the end of t1, but then you move in to t2 and you lose all your engravings getting new acc's again so back to not just feeling shit.. but literally being incapable of doing your job. then it happens again at start of t3.
That isn't just progression. Its a bad system that could be changed. You can still progress with more swiftness/spec, more cdr on gems, more base stats from upgrading more skill points. These are decent progressions.
Keep in mind in KR you just start in t3, so they basically did simple work around for these issues giving you good progression path.
Are all those from valtan?
it sounds like bards with awakening engraving will do good with the awakening CD set no? cuz you spam awakenings that give you more of the bar and you can do more 3bar dmg buff
true. but those min max spec builds really prefer the movement/attack speed buff. also, supports can just take awakening potions
Does it apply to soulfist when have 2 pieces ?
I saw that you held blessed aura on paladin at the start. When are you supposed to use blessed aura?
I wasn’t paying much attention but he was likely holding it to use the damage buff after they break the shell.
which one do you think is better for mayhem berserk?
up this.
I guess halucinmation set or the newly added salvation set
i see most of them using the nightmare set. mana save and dmg
@@macjoobyung mana is mp right? i never ever run out of mana with berserker except in nacrasena
Just curious about wardancers, have one in T3 now as an alt but enjoy their class because its something different from my gunslinger, do you find most builds in KR run Swift/spec? or Swift/Crit? Seems so hard to build up meter for esoteric wardancer if you don't run swift main, spec substat
esoteric uses swift spec
once we get tier sets you will use the awakening one. youll have crazy cooldown reduction with gems and you will run swift/spec. youll probably have grudge(3), cursed doll(3), awaklening(3), esoteric(1) as a basline with that tier set for really high damage and good skill uptime. youd also switch from the big aoe awakening to the other one to instanty pop it for the buff since u have the damage reduction on the awakening skill.
Swift/spec (600 spec, rest swift) for 2 spenders build. Swift/crit for 1 spender.
You can use an awakening potion at the start to speed the rotation up, but it's not mandatory.
You can run esoteric1, adrenaline2, for the 10% crit if you lack crit (shouldn't); but with the current cd its kinda hard to keep the buff.
1. No investment(no class engraving/esoteric 1): SWIFT/CRIT , sweeping kick, moon flash kick, rising fire dragon (or blast formation with purple galewind)
2. First intention 3 + FOCUS RUNE: SWIFT/CRIT, sweeping kick, moon flash kick, flash heat fang
3. Double spender(esoteric 1/3) + 3 WEALTH RUNES + 2 GALEWIND: SWIFT/SPEC ~700, rising fire dragon/wind god, moon flash kick, blast formation
Build 2 is the best until really late T3, Build 1 is built with same skill/tripod as Build 2 only replacing flash heat fang to esoteric skill to solve mana issues, Build 3 is very bad now but highest dmg in end-end-game
If you are using first 2 build, please go grudge & keen blunt, you can use them without penalty (combustible armor + roar of courage + wind whisper)
If you are missing of runes, the build will not work
What is the best set for robust spirit soulfist?
a lot of people use the hallucination, crit rate set
Hello. You mention set for Chaos Dungeon. Is there a way to have two sets and still do good damage? At the moment I can only have my honings on one set. Thanks.
You have to enhance both. I guess chaos dung becomes way harder latter on, otherwise, i don't see the point in going for it.
Edit: Except for support dps build.
once you farm enough mats to craft the gears, you can switch back and forth the gear set at your "P" UI so you are free to try what ever you want
@@macjoobyung but the other gear will be +0, or is there a system to make it as strong?
hello, i would love to know how is robust spirit soulfist right now on KR endgame 1500+? by usage % on loawa is pretty low ( really low) and i cant find why, its because its bad or some other classes are straight up just better and people just dropped soulfist?
if stress level of soulfist is 8/10, there are other stress free classes
@@macjoobyung as a main soulfist on NA ( 1380 ilvl rn) i totally get it the stress level . with robust spirit build, i have to calculate the dps burst window + skills rotation+ maybe hitting the ult. and dodge boss skills and do mechanics. another question, is arcana something like that stressful? or arcana feels like sorceress but with the Cards RNG?
quick question should i in the end game buy legendary books of engravings ? not just class one but in general the other ones(dps ones) like keen, curse doll and ambush master for example
How much real life money did you spend on the korean veraion of lost ark
2.5k
@@macjoobyung how much of it went to mats and stuff that makes your character stronger
I saw the TOP scrappers in KR are almost all Shock builds. Why is it that you are arguing they feel "clunky" without the special enhancements by support classes as Paladin with their set ? Im currently playing a shock build and its pretty straight forward to just do 1x yellow skill to buff your next attack -> use shock skill -> repeat. Is it really better to continously spam yellow skills (with Taiju skillset) or is the dmg difference marginal? Also do damage windows during boss fights matter in later patches? If so... Shock should always be better.
not arguing they are clunky, just saying they could feel slow compared to other classes. shock regen builds go full spec and then crit so zero swiftness. if you can handle it, go for it man
Yea, so u just get more dmg, incredible wow. Lel
the wardancer gear gonna be dirt cheap cause only her and one other class uses it, now i understand why wardancer is so highly appreciated in kr, very cheap setup besides accessories and good party synergy
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And what happens when a new set gets released that isn't ideal for the class? It'll go back to being trash. Gear doesn't fix the inherent issues a class has. It feel like no one understands this and they doesn't think long term. Clothes don't make the man, a underwhelming class will still be underwhelming no matter what they have on. SO PLEASE STOP SAYING A CLASS WILL GET BETTER AT T3.
Sounds like these gear sets are all concurrent, providing a number of options to potentially enhance a class's capabilities. As well, metas change in every game as new gear and class adjustments are introduced, this is just how things are and keeps the games fresh.
Classes do get better with proper gear and engravings and overall better everything. It's just that we don't have the stuff right now.
jesus what class are you playing? soulfist?
@@macjoobyung worse, i have striker
@@ashtonfoxx ??? my striker is my main and feels amazing. If you feel bad on striker, post your char info, you're probably doing something wrong.
because you'll never reach late t3