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  • Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
  • Before Ivan Chermayeff and Tom Geismar, logos were often literal representations of products. Read more: www.theatlanti...
    "60 Years of Logos" was created by Dress Code NYC (dresscodeny.com/). It is part of The Atlantic Selects, an online showcase of short documentaries from independent creators, curated by The Atlantic.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 139

  • @LookzA
    @LookzA 6 років тому +482

    This seems like a trailer to larger documentary.

    • @littleredsproutingkate
      @littleredsproutingkate 6 років тому +2

      yes, please!

    • @elmoelmerson172
      @elmoelmerson172 6 років тому

      Right? What is this video actually saying?

    • @-lll-ll-llll-AVE
      @-lll-ll-llll-AVE 5 років тому

      « 99% invisible » (a great audio podcast) made an episode with one of them. search for 99% invisible logos, you should find it right here on UA-cam

  • @Housewarmin
    @Housewarmin 6 років тому +375

    I am a graphic designer so this was so heartwarming. Being creative, making people happy, while influencing the world with something so small, is a happy marriage.

    • @JenJHayden
      @JenJHayden 6 років тому

      i have a question. how do you know if your design is already taken or not without giving away your idea. let's say i have a coffee shop and i have a mug i designed. how do i know someone else out there doesnt already a mug in the same exact format, style, etc.

    • @JenJHayden
      @JenJHayden 6 років тому +1

      @@LinkTGF thanks!!!

    • @obstinategirl1984
      @obstinategirl1984 5 років тому

      Could u give me ur name

    • @dannyr2976
      @dannyr2976 3 роки тому

      @@JenJHayden I'm a little late, but you could upload your image through Google images, that'll search for logos similar to yours.

  • @MrDevanWright
    @MrDevanWright 6 років тому +101

    I would really enjoy another few hours of this. More details, examples, ideas, opinions, guiding thoughts, established principles, etc, etc, etc.

    • @LookzA
      @LookzA 6 років тому +2

      Netflix has a good documentary on design called "abstract" that you might like.
      ........actually, I still need to finish watching it myself

    • @MrDevanWright
      @MrDevanWright 6 років тому

      Thank you for the suggestion, @@LookzA. It's greatly appreciated.

    • @NCISmelanie
      @NCISmelanie 6 років тому +1

      same !

  • @retractedhack
    @retractedhack 6 років тому +337

    This video was pretty lacking. I expected them to comment more on the history of design trends and to talk in more technical detail about how the nature of the logo design industry has changed over time; they do have 85 years of perspective to go on after all. Unfortunately, the content of this video is muddled in some extraneous details and kinda falls flat (I feel sorry about that BJ character because, according to this video, the only two things worth knowing about him are 1) that he's a heroin addict and 2) that he lives in England). The video essentially boils down to them just saying "we love our job and will continue to do it" which isn't exactly a novel revelation; it seems like their perspective has so much more to offer even in this short of a format. Perhaps this video could have benefitted from a longer run time, not to mention the fact that their voices were particularly hard to understand at times and could've used some attentive subtitling. Aside from that, I will admit that I feel like the filming had a really pleasant and artful style.

    • @baobabkoodaa
      @baobabkoodaa 6 років тому +13

      I rate this review 5/5

    • @Aj11117777
      @Aj11117777 6 років тому +2

      Baobab Koodaa I rate this reply 5/5

    • @lameduck1690
      @lameduck1690 6 років тому +2

      It's a three minute video.

    • @ronj9448
      @ronj9448 5 років тому

      This video illustrated the article. You need to read that as well.

  • @MyShakeweight
    @MyShakeweight 6 років тому +63

    Where is the full video?

  • @Amakhar
    @Amakhar 6 років тому +219

    What was the "revolution" exactly? I thought there would be more analysis of logos and how they have changed, instead of just these two guys talking about how much they love their job.

    • @Amakhar
      @Amakhar 6 років тому +19

      Samo Kr.stallo Yes but do you think this video did a good job of communicating that? It was very indulgent and disjointed. Many non-sequitors like “Bj was a heroine addict... so he moved to England.” Just editorially the title is misleading, and the content is a jumble. That’s what I was trying to get across in my comment. I expect better from the Atlantic.

    • @biohoo22
      @biohoo22 6 років тому +3

      Well, to be fair, the natural inclination of a heroin addict is to move to England...I guess...

    • @ronj9448
      @ronj9448 5 років тому

      You need to read the article. This merely supports the article and not really meant to stand on its own.

  • @ChicagoHypebeast
    @ChicagoHypebeast 6 років тому +2

    It's always inspiring to see the lives of designers and how they live everyone else, but still create something so meaningful and identifiable.

  • @quickathletes
    @quickathletes 3 роки тому +1

    2:48 that smile proves he fullfilled his life

  • @ThePeej
    @ThePeej 6 років тому +2

    I watched half of this video before being compelled to share it. After sharing it I finished it, then immediately shared it two more times & then watched it all the way through again. Delightful! I loved the insight about needing to observe clients to see who they really are, rather than who they say they are. Inspiring to see these two still at it after so long. Thanks for this!

  • @An-Islander
    @An-Islander 6 років тому +75

    15 seconds in, they're telling me about a heroin addict who moved to England. Whaaa?

  • @rr7firefly
    @rr7firefly 4 роки тому +1

    The red 9 is located at 9 West 57th Street in midtown Manhattan. This famous sculpture was designed by Ivan Chermayeff. It sits on the sidewalk on city property and marks the building's main entrance. The sculpture is fabricated out of half-inch steel plate weighing three tons. (2:52)

  • @ralevdotcom
    @ralevdotcom 6 років тому +1

    1:14 > " Symbols don't make it clear what you do, it just makes it clear who they are. The less they say - the better."

  • @indung27
    @indung27 3 роки тому +1

    Being able to work with passion until old age is priceless!

  • @JoshuaWysocki
    @JoshuaWysocki 6 років тому +4

    i could watch an hour of this and still want more!

  • @Rockman-4
    @Rockman-4 4 роки тому

    These guys are my fav logo designers.

  • @MrSzwarz
    @MrSzwarz 2 місяці тому

    Legends... Admire... Respect...

  • @thoseonetrains
    @thoseonetrains 4 роки тому +1

    2:13 must be some logo prototypes from 1984

  • @ralstonvaz
    @ralstonvaz 6 років тому

    A great teaser introduction to all that matters in logo design.

  • @pranaytony
    @pranaytony 3 роки тому +1

    So Inspired!💐

  • @toniislyfield
    @toniislyfield 4 роки тому

    these guys are the pioneer, godfather, the prophets of logo design.

  • @williamdexter2739
    @williamdexter2739 6 років тому

    just want to enjoy the few more hours of that these two old-timers talking about more detail of the evolution of logo design and its industry, today design trend. more importantly, guiding thoughts and advice for the younger generation in design.

  • @willpatersondesign
    @willpatersondesign 6 років тому +1

    Awesome video!

  • @ubiubi12
    @ubiubi12 6 років тому

    Just plain excellent.

  • @plef5566
    @plef5566 6 років тому

    Feature length documentary on these two please

  • @royalsteven
    @royalsteven 3 роки тому

    Probably the best most influential design company: Chermayeff & Geismar & Haviv. They designed the logos for: NBC, Enron, Mobil, National Geographic, Xerox, Harvard University Press, Viacom...

  • @jolee3124
    @jolee3124 5 років тому +1

    1:28 now that's a large pot of coffee

  • @carlshneebly7136
    @carlshneebly7136 6 років тому

    Its really amazing how the simplest logos are the biggest.

  • @_Greasyzoku_
    @_Greasyzoku_ 6 років тому

    I need more of this video. I’ve always loved logos.

  • @ronj9448
    @ronj9448 5 років тому

    These guys are very bright and interesting. Would love to see this story in greater depth.

  • @emrico
    @emrico 6 років тому +42

    Love these videos, so clean, honest, and refreshing in the age of clickbait. Keep it up

  • @admagnificat
    @admagnificat 6 років тому

    A small window into a world that I know little about. Many thanks for all of the hard work that you put into producing this meaningful piece.

  • @bridgetnash2886
    @bridgetnash2886 5 років тому

    I enjoyed the perspectives of these guys. As a graphic design student, I want to learn from their work and develop my own style along with it.

  • @dannyr2976
    @dannyr2976 3 роки тому

    Ivan Chermayeff and Tom Geismar, the GoodFellas of Graphic design!

  • @erikayoseff8015
    @erikayoseff8015 4 роки тому

    Logos were big. New York University, Univision, Chase, and Knapp Shoes.

  • @RobotUnderscore
    @RobotUnderscore 6 років тому +5

    ok now do a full movie

  • @Braeden123698745
    @Braeden123698745 6 років тому

    I love these, I wish they were longer too

  • @Otter-Destruction
    @Otter-Destruction 6 років тому +3

    Damn here i am trying to be a lawyer lol 2:47

    • @snilrach
      @snilrach 6 років тому +3

      You will get paid much more than us designers though.

  • @andrewhope9660
    @andrewhope9660 6 років тому

    Fantastic!

  • @BaghaShams
    @BaghaShams 6 років тому +17

    "BJ was a heroin addict, which was not a good thing to be, so he moved to England." um, ok?

  • @ThexDynastxQueen
    @ThexDynastxQueen 6 років тому +50

    Thanks, I learned nothing.
    Edit: Wait no I take it back I did learn one thing, being addicted to heroin is like bad but if I ever become an addict I should move to England for some reason.

  • @TeamStevers
    @TeamStevers 6 років тому

    A truly great video. More like this pretty please

  • @plusign
    @plusign 5 років тому

    Legends in the game! Glad to see them honored but agree this should be a much longer and more in depth piece...

  • @KharaokeTube
    @KharaokeTube 4 роки тому

    Give us an inside look at one project! From start to finish.

  • @jason.simone
    @jason.simone 6 років тому +6

    I liked this video, then I read the legitimate comments that it lacked substance. However, I realized that teaching art is not often done with substance. Like walking through a museum without a tour guide... I think it was important for this video to present a consistent vision of this art form. It is not a documentary, imparting purely technical details about their life and business. The video challenges you to consider the value of good design and the mindset required to create it.

    • @TracksWithDax
      @TracksWithDax 6 років тому +1

      But on the other hand, it feels a little bit like a collage of short pieces of disjointed information that doesn't actually explain any one thing or give any info.
      I feel like the main purpose of this video is just to give people the slightest taste of the story of these gentlemen so that they're compelled out actually go out and dig deeper themselves. It almost feels like the first 3 minutes to a full-length documentary.

  • @esr243
    @esr243 6 років тому

    Loved that and both of them

  • @copypaste3526
    @copypaste3526 6 років тому

    I hoped for more content. But what's there is great.

  • @evergreenrodeo
    @evergreenrodeo 6 років тому

    More please

  • @askimsong
    @askimsong 6 років тому +1

    When is the full documentary available? thanks!

  • @timotheeoliveau3568
    @timotheeoliveau3568 6 років тому

    Well I quite liked the editing actually ! (pictures showing for maybe not as much time as I'd wish) But there have been a lot of work here and I respect that ! (plus... Isn't it not that bad honestly ?)

  • @phillipleconte3715
    @phillipleconte3715 6 років тому

    Inspiring. Wonderful.

  • @alexduran5605
    @alexduran5605 6 років тому

    Rest In Piece Ivan.

  • @YellaSpiceFamily
    @YellaSpiceFamily 6 років тому

    I agree that this video felt like it was a teaser for a larger video or documentary. In looking up the company information, I noted that Mr. Chermayeff died in late 2017: did his decline cut this production short? 😞 Such a pity - I'd have loved to see more of this story through the lens of their friendship.

  • @EmmaDancesNever
    @EmmaDancesNever 6 років тому

    wholesome

  • @arjunbais1
    @arjunbais1 6 років тому +3

    I am curious as to who this BJ person is who left for England and was a heroin addict? what happened of him?

  • @rayyanjamal4983
    @rayyanjamal4983 6 років тому

    What in your opinion is the greatest logo ever? It could be anything, banks, fast food franchises, football teams, pharmacies - ANYTHING!

  • @wellesradio
    @wellesradio 6 років тому +1

    0:28 Whoah, didn’t see that coming. This video was way too short. What’s their story? Who was BJ? What happened to him? This video is a teaser!

  • @joeyb5182
    @joeyb5182 6 років тому +1

    The pacing of this video gave me anxiety.

  • @jonnypanteloni
    @jonnypanteloni 6 років тому

    here's about 7 decent comments in the comments section. To the logo makers - there's enough logos. Please conceptualise a comments system that is a meritocracy for the effort placed by the user prior to posting (meritorious within reason).

  • @saumitrachakravarty
    @saumitrachakravarty 6 років тому

    Take home message for me: 'The less they say the better' (1:19)

  • @Then.
    @Then. 6 років тому

    Poor new guy. Works 23/7 in the basement but gets only one shot.

  • @mediumstudio
    @mediumstudio 6 років тому

    man, this is sooooo good - thanks for making and uploading this ...

  • @sebastiana6903
    @sebastiana6903 6 років тому

    I fuck wit the Enron logo heavy af tho

  • @inkeys6244
    @inkeys6244 6 років тому

    so where do you find these graphic design art books?

  • @Digephil
    @Digephil 6 років тому

    Did the editor for this video have a bet with someone about how many cuts you can put into a 3-minute piece? Every two seconds...

  • @poarsvidanormal
    @poarsvidanormal 6 років тому +13

    Bad editing. Period.

  • @OwenBochner
    @OwenBochner 6 років тому

    Damn I wanna meet these fellas

  • @Ashtarte3D
    @Ashtarte3D 6 років тому +9

    I don't think it has anything to do with the scandal why people barely remember the logo of Enron; it's not that interesting or inventive of a design. But if you look at logos like Amazon's it seems simple but has a clever nature to it with the 'smile' actually being an A to Z directional shift signifying they carry just about everything.

    • @Frisenette
      @Frisenette 6 років тому

      Ashtarte thing is, that it’s the last creation of the greatest logo designer ever.
      That’s a big deal, whether you like the logo or not.
      designobserver.com/feature/the-smartest-logo-in-the-room/6237

  • @erikayoseff8015
    @erikayoseff8015 4 роки тому

    1:13 Univision

  • @andigomez1993
    @andigomez1993 6 років тому

    Why are they so cute.

  • @MrJonLott
    @MrJonLott 6 років тому +6

    This video was just a lot of fluff. I expected a little more from The Atlantic.

  • @Delta-gv8qn
    @Delta-gv8qn 6 років тому +28

    Please take this as positive criticism but this video was 3 minutes of my life wasted, what's the story? what's the point you are trying to make? A bunch of old men like their jobs then... Please put more effort into this, unsubscribed for the time being

  • @krisherrick4261
    @krisherrick4261 6 років тому

    This was interesting but guess I was expecting a video about logo design principles. A more appropriate title would've been "the visionaries of the logo design revolution" maybe

  • @world-traveler880
    @world-traveler880 6 років тому

    Neat. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mindlessgreen
    @mindlessgreen 6 років тому +3

    Although beautifully done, it felt like the video lacked substance.

  • @awesomelyshorticles
    @awesomelyshorticles 6 років тому +169

    Nice personal biopics. Still a bad, poorly conceived video.

    • @rudolphsturling5236
      @rudolphsturling5236 6 років тому +1

      Connor Amlee just absolute garbage to be honest. i can’t understand how anyone could call this ‘filmmaking’

    • @lameduck1690
      @lameduck1690 6 років тому +5

      It's about logos... What did you expect, exactly?

    • @HeyTylerAustin
      @HeyTylerAustin 6 років тому

      I don't think it was terrible, but I would have liked to see a bit of the insight that went into their work. With Chase, they touch upon it but then move on before they explain how they got to the end result.

  • @henry_brown
    @henry_brown 6 років тому

    Where have I seen this video before? Is this a reupload of some sort?

  • @isaiahcabino6431
    @isaiahcabino6431 6 років тому +19

    This video provided little history and did little to talk about the revolution. Dissapointing

  • @Buenomars
    @Buenomars 6 років тому +2

    Their "much younger" employee isn't that young either - look at all the grey hair!

  • @Amigps01
    @Amigps01 6 років тому

    Oh my god. I really hope I die before I get to that stage of my life.

  • @snilrach
    @snilrach 6 років тому

    RIP :( Ivan

  • @bryanwhite4683
    @bryanwhite4683 6 років тому +7

    Unfortunately, Ivan Chermayeff died December 2017.

  • @samshields7881
    @samshields7881 6 років тому +1

    anyone know what the name of the piece of art at 2:09 is?

  • @jzthecreator2270
    @jzthecreator2270 6 років тому

    Title somewhat misleading. This is more like a promotion/advertisement. It did work though.

  • @rezwanul99
    @rezwanul99 6 років тому

    Make the video longer.

  • @danielchan7135
    @danielchan7135 6 років тому +1

    Is this a trailer? Or _THE_ documentary?
    Based on the comments before me, none looked into this video's description to discover that this is a trailer/documentary for "60 Years of Logos." Their thoughts on this video are rightly critical and dismissive. But even for viewers like me who found the links, we're led to dead ends. The one to The Atlantic page has the same video and slightly more info, but no further details about the documentary-if there is one. It's barely treated with italics in the third paragraph. The other link to Dress Code NYC leaves the visitor at the top of the site hierarchy, leaving one to wade and wander until they find ... the same three-minute video.
    I watched a trailer. Where's the documentary? And if this is the documentary, when will you release all the footage you cut? These three minutes do not qualify a documentary.

  • @ericpatterson4248
    @ericpatterson4248 3 роки тому

    Lawyer(s)!?

  • @RyansTrashCan
    @RyansTrashCan 6 років тому

    I love being a creative. One day, I hope I can make half the impact that these gentlemen made in design..

    • @wellesradio
      @wellesradio 6 років тому +1

      Ryan Coughlin Stop using “creative” as noun to refer to a person. That’s just douchey. Either be an artist or a craftsman. Don’t take on the mantle of an adjective to boost your ego and justify your career choices.

    • @RyansTrashCan
      @RyansTrashCan 6 років тому

      What a hypocrite. What's egotistical is scrolling through youtube comments hating on other people's passions my dude. I'm sorry for all your life decisions that led you to this point in your life. RIP Mr. W

    • @theskeletonboi
      @theskeletonboi 6 років тому

      Sorry Ryan, but Mr. W is spot on. Just keep on doing your job, stop flaring your egoistic delusion.

    • @wellesradio
      @wellesradio 6 років тому +1

      Ryan Coughlin I do apologize for being so rude. Not to excuse it, but it’s one of those linguistic pet peeves of mine, which ultimately is a personal choice and perhaps a bit neophobic on my part. But I was never dismissing your dreams or work, just the label. I hate the word “creatives” like I hate the word “brights” as a label for naturalists and skeptics. It’s a term with its head up its arse. That doesn’t mean I’m going to dismiss the work of a scientist just because he describes himself as a “bright”. Ultimately, you could describe yourself as the final incarnation of Jesus and Abe Lincoln and still be doing good work.

  • @SimonAbrams
    @SimonAbrams 6 років тому

    Who are the cretins that clicked the thumbs down on this video?

  • @kareszt
    @kareszt 6 років тому

    KFC does not need a new logo.

  • @Nuthouse01
    @Nuthouse01 6 років тому

    Logo Design is interesting. But the title implies there is a "revolution" of some kind, and the video simply does not show any major changes in the industry or in the company.

  • @Libratarot
    @Libratarot 6 років тому

    So, they never bothered to buy out or whatever , the partner that was on drugs and moved to England. I wonder if they kept him on the books?

  • @wallyzielinski5097
    @wallyzielinski5097 6 років тому +2

    What happened with this vid? Shotty editing, sloppy execution, no real point ever made. You guys are better than this

  • @icefreak2272
    @icefreak2272 6 років тому

    wait i thought i was supposed to learn something but all i saw were awesome logo designs but not how they got there

  • @jgarcia8776
    @jgarcia8776 6 років тому

    Why is everyone getting so defensive about the heroin sentence. Lmao

  • @gavinreddig3969
    @gavinreddig3969 6 років тому

    0:17 What the fuck did he just say?

  • @NukTap
    @NukTap 5 років тому

    Lads

  • @robbiebalboa
    @robbiebalboa 6 років тому

    Am I the only one that feel like clients love to make their own lives difficult.

  • @WithYouIDisagree
    @WithYouIDisagree 6 років тому +6

    I have to disagree with the first statement. I think Apple and Google and Microsoft have good logos, but I despise the companies.

    • @danepotmo2513
      @danepotmo2513 6 років тому

      Apple does. Google and Microsoft suck balls as logos.

    • @wellesradio
      @wellesradio 6 років тому

      That may be the case, but you don’t put them in the same category as Enron which was so evil history erased it.

  • @splatsquatch3934
    @splatsquatch3934 6 років тому

    just kiss already

  • @JanR1995
    @JanR1995 6 років тому +1

    Far to much is going on in this video. I feel I get epilepsy just looking at this.