Hard Talk Debating Series: Feminism in the Kraal?

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  • Опубліковано 29 лют 2016
  • On the 14, 15, 16, 17 September 2015, the Wits Centre for Diversity Studies held the HardTalk Debating series (in collaboration with the Wits Debating Union). This debate was entitled: “Feminism in the Kraal?”.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 24

  • @phiwokuhleqwabe2097
    @phiwokuhleqwabe2097 6 років тому +6

    Black women are what?

  • @thebatonmaster
    @thebatonmaster Рік тому

    I loved hearing this college discussion. I wish there was a longer less-cut version.
    Thanks.

  • @crystaledson
    @crystaledson 3 роки тому +3

    Question is
    when starting a movement such as feminism - something should've been done already to empower all women to form unity and then start this movement as equal with one another. If you look at this debate- it's mostly based on black women inequality. However, not only black South Africans face this issue - look at the whole world

  • @sandilekhumalo5712
    @sandilekhumalo5712 2 роки тому +1

    💀🤦🏿‍♂️Ladies and gentlemen, this right here is the future of South Africa.

  • @velcro8299
    @velcro8299 2 роки тому +3

    do we even have a future as blacks thinking like this?

  • @prapraraowodeha-ashaka1393
    @prapraraowodeha-ashaka1393 2 місяці тому

    What is this 'our struggle' though

  • @crystaledson
    @crystaledson 3 роки тому +4

    Also, I think this debate was biased - they only gave black women the opportunity and equal treatment to speak and when other races spoke the speakers (members) was loud and disrespectful. Once again> were they fair on this topic with all members attending the debate= NO.
    In my opinion = NO.
    Everyone else felt left out and uncomfortable because of the lack of respect towards each other's rightful opinion being shared.
    Next time
    include and take all members attending into consideration
    especially the men too. How can you debate for a better world as women when you disrespect men to enforce your viewpoint on them?
    This was just unfair.

    • @samukelongwane7412
      @samukelongwane7412 2 роки тому

      I really agree with you here. I haven't watched the full episode but from the little bit that I've watched, it just seems biased and isn't really a logical debate. The problem of the current feminist movement, is that they don't want to hear and understand where the men are coming from. It just creates a space for inconsistency in what and who they are fighting against.This is quite problematic because it just strips away the man's voice (which is ironic, considering that we say that males silence us, when we also silence them by not giving them a chance to speak their truth). I'm also a female too, but it's hard to call myself a feminist because of such.

  • @jeromeadedze
    @jeromeadedze 2 місяці тому

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    Women's rights in South Africa, especially for black women, are deeply entwined with issues of land ownership and historical oppression.
    There's a critical need to redefine respect in African culture away from traditional gender roles.
    Intersectionality is key in understanding the complexities of patriarchy and feminism, especially regarding race and sexuality.
    The discourse on feminism needs to extend beyond academic spaces to reach working-class communities and everyday settings like taxi ranks and hospitals.
    Allies of feminism, particularly black males, need to actively engage in conscientizing other men about an African version of feminism.
    Religion plays a significant role in institutionalizing power dynamics and must be critically examined within feminist discourse.
    Women can also perpetuate patriarchal norms, and unity among women is crucial in the fight against patriarchy.
    Diversity and decolonization are essential aspects to consider in feminist discourse, bridging rural-urban divides and shaping everyday interactions with family and partners.
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  • @notsure1232
    @notsure1232 2 роки тому +1

    Today’s feminist might be in UNO world: They always “debate” the same way; reverse, skip, WiLdCaRD!

  • @Mikecores
    @Mikecores 2 роки тому +4

    Some of the most racist and sexist shit I've seen on this net. and it's from these "woke" souls... WOW!
    Do they think of the stuff they spew out at all? Do they have ANY kind of insight?

  • @HermatonKizambo-lc7qw
    @HermatonKizambo-lc7qw 9 місяців тому

    Fuelling hate between man and woman. .

  • @kevingumede458
    @kevingumede458 3 роки тому +4

    So basically y'all pressed because women want equal rights? I smell insecurity. Why are you so scared of someone being equal? Is it because you don't wanna be disagreed with? Then thats narcissism. If you're confident in yourself, you don't need someone to agree with you in everything you say because your confidence doesn't rely on external validation and you know you can be wrong because confidence is not arrogance. Check in with yourself and try to grow up

    • @jadenphilander8799
      @jadenphilander8799 3 роки тому +8

      We already have equal rights in South Africa. Men and women will never be equal. But we do have equal rights since 94. More women make it into varsity and more women graduate. They are not asking for equal rights they asking to be treated like men which is a problem.

    • @kabelomokoala359
      @kabelomokoala359 2 роки тому +5

      I agree with Jayden. No where in the constitution of SA says men have more rights than women. What feminism in our country wants is to be treated like men or be superior than them. That can never happen. Socially women and men are equal. But in other ways it can't happen. No matter how much feminism cries about it, it will not change.
      In the video many of the women were very misandrist but you as a feminist will never address this.
      Feminism just teaches women to be angry for what they already have, equal opportunities the same as men. Feminism also does not teach women to be accountable for what the do in the outside world.
      I would like to say that women have more privilege than men but are to angry and confused to see them. Like that women are more likely to enter university than men, they are twice more likely to be hired in the work space than men. There are support put in place for women who have been abused but for men there is none because he is a man and needs to suck it up . Did you know men are more likely to commit suicide than women aswell as drop out school or university because the way the lectures are structured is in women advantage for learning and understanding. So mam be humble and grateful with what you have because there are countries that their women do not have the privilege that you have. You misandrist radical feminazi

    • @notsure1232
      @notsure1232 2 роки тому

      IMO they intend to bypass the due process of conversation and compromise. This is done mostly by gaslighting with the “patriarchy” lines to justify their lack of compromise. Also the premise is now flawed since equal rights is last gens fight. Pop media promotes the trend to allow our politicians to continue promoting the system of trickle down corruption.

  • @xolani2321
    @xolani2321 2 роки тому +1

    this debate was biased . men didnt have representation .

  • @peleora112
    @peleora112 2 роки тому

    Is there such a thing "African"