What Is Going On With Ryobi Brushless And HP Tools? Complete Dumpster Fire!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Ryobi is saying that the company is expanding from the affordable DIY brand it started out as, but is that really true. In our experience, the new Ryobi One+ HP line, including the research and development within the United States, has been a complete dumpster fire. This includes howRyobi states the battery platform they built years and years ago is forward and backward compatible. This is all a half-baked marketing plan to sell you poorly made tools at a higher price. To top it off, Ridgid and Ryobi are sharing many tools to make things less expensive and they are pawning these off as a new improved line, while they drop the Octane Power Tools.
#Ryobi #Fail #DumpsterFire #Tools #HomeDepot
I agree 100%! Went to Home Depot when Ryobi had there open house tent event. The rep assured me that the brushless HP line is contractor grade. I ended up buying a hammer drill, reciprocating saw, multi-tool ,and their new flooring saw. Everyone of those tools burned up within a year. Tried to get the tools repaired/replaced only to find out Home Depot charges over $30 a tool to be evaluated. I was told I would get a direct replacement from the Ryobi rep, which never happened. Their customer service is useless as well as their social media. I posted several comments on their official Instagram page, only to be ignored and have my comments removed. These tools are junk . Never again Ryobi... never again
Had a similar issue and figured it is like paint. You can buy the good stuff once or the cheap stuff three times to do the same job.
It sounds like your real problem is with Home Depot.
@@JohnSmith-ux3tt I agree can you believe this guy? he abuses the gear beyond it's limits then torches it, runs it to the ground and then complains because he broke it. For some reason he thinks the equipment is unbreakable. It's like he went out of his way to break it just to start trouble. Just because you can burn your house doesn't mean you should just because you bought a fire extinguisher at Walmart that says their fire extinguisher puts out fires and then you get angry because the fire extinguisher wasn't meant to put out a house fire consuming the whole hose.
@M B No I think he has a chip on his shoulder, with all that complaining he does he should just shut uP^ move on and buy a more expensive brand.
Ryobi have a 3-year warranty so you shouldn't have any problems. All my Ryobi tools have been fine, but if yours broke within a year you should get all free ones.
This is why I love the channel. I know that if you do a review on something, it's your honest experience.
Exactly he's going to test the tool and not sugar coated it if the tool stinks it stinks it's not going to giving opinion with a half poop test and a lot of cases of may just be his opinion and other people might have different experiences
*Paid for by Dewalt... just kidding
@@classikz nah! You’re not.
Clearly Ryobi is using smoke as a signal to ease up on the pushing
😂
It's a feature! Brilliant!
Love the honesty. These big corporations don’t care all about the 💰
but gurIs think big corps care about them tho
I’m just a diy guy, i bought a 6 piece 18 volt kit. So far it’s held up well, but I’m glad I know what to look for.
I've never had an issue with my ryobi tools but I completely see where you're coming from.
Thanks for the honesty. I have probably 20 or so Ryobi tools, all the brushed. Never had a single problem and very happy with them for the price. I know they are not the most powerful but for all my home projects they have been rock solid. Again, not using them in a pro setting or constant hard use. I have no plans to replace what I have with the newer brushless tools. I just dont see any reason to spend that money when mine work fine. Still glad to see your experience with them. Keep up the great videos and reviews. Thanks!
Do they ever spark ? From the motor ?
I find all my Ryobi tools to be totally fine. I wonder if this guys tests the other brands as hard? I accept Ryobi are not top-of-the-line. But they're pretty good, and imo the best value for money. You can pay twice as much and get a tool that is 25% better. And if it's your job and you torch your tools every day for years, then that maybe worth it. For DIYers like me, Ryobi HP Brushless have been awesome.
My Ryobi One+ tools have all held up quite well for me and I own many of them - brushless and non-brushless. They get used multiple times a week doing DIY projects around my property. But I do try to pay attention to how hard I’m pushing them and if they seem to be getting a bit hot I’ll give them a break instead of continuing to push them hard. I think I could take any cordless tool regardless of brand and push it to a point of smoking if I wanted too. Until I see an issue I’m going to keep buying and using my Ryobi One+ tools. And I’m also going to enjoy every project I complete while using them. As of right now, just call me a happy customer.
I wonder why he's having problems with ryobi, massive has something to do with that giant red Milwaukee sign on his wall lol. Milwaukee fan boys are weird they just think everything that's not Milwaukee is junk
I work construction. Plumber. I use ryobi tools with no problem. If you treat your tools like crap then they will not last. I've been through Milwaukee and dewalt tools. They are good but for what i use them for ryobi works just fine.
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you really cant with a makita, bosch pro... like i never think about it, and when i used to work a lot with them it was in direct sunlight, all day, in portugal so usually 35-40c because we were installing solar panels. im sure if you literally tried to damage them you could but they dont just get hot from use and stuff, we also had like 8 batterys, and they ran all day, as soon as they used a battery we changed it and carried on. i remember using 3-4 in a row on the grinder, cutting like 4mm thick plate and no issue, i never saw one start smoking, some of the older ones ended up with bad bearing etc but thats after years of hard use
same here.
/Bklyn👑
Brother, honesty is why I come back. I appreciate you.
I've flipped 4 houses using all Ryobi tools, I love them.
My brushed circular saw has cut PLENTY of wood lol.
I was a little worried about installing the blade after reading a couple of reviews. But it was amazingly easy. Took about 1 minute. Works great ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxjpBI8OOeUXib_iT7UomCrQ-uauwZJ62c . Cuts easily and is perfect for pocket cuts I needed to make for replacing some old deck boards.
I've worked in the construction trades for over 25 years. Not once have I ever saw a Ryobi tool used by anyone on any of the hundreds of job sites I've worked at.
They don’t want to be laughed at
i personally would not let most construction workers near my tools unless i wanted to get new ones.
What? I see the nailers all over the place.
The framing nailer rocks. Like it better than milwakee and dewalts. Plus its lighter.
I appreciate your perspective. I liked Ryobi mostly because they had a wide range of different kinds of tools using the same battery lines. My original weedwacker and drill used the same battery. Now my yard tools mostly use the 40v batteries, so this is less relevant to me. It seems like they release tools with a mix of fixes and flaws. I don’t want to have to keep upgrading my tools like software. I was using an older Ryobi recip saw to cut some big tree branches. It didn’t visible smoke, but it smelled and got hot.
I thought Rigid might be a way to get better quality tools for a good price. It sounds like that may not be the case anymore. I don’t think I need expensive high end pro tools but I do want good quality for a reasonable price. I think the race to the bottom price wise has caused most of this mess.
Thanks for sharing your experience. So long as you are stress testing tools from other brands I see no problem with stress testing Ryobi (especially since they touted their protection system that doesn’t seem to be doing much).
Ryobi does not want to leave evidence behind, so their tools would self-destruct in five seconds 😄
Mission impossible quote lol
@@bluemantom77 inspector gadget
Inspector gadget tools I see
As a plumber that's drilled probably 20,000 holes with Ryobi drills I just laugh at this video
I love Ryobi and have a lot of their cordless tools but I never push it hard to the point of smoking.
I do agree that it’s not as powerful as some of the major brands but it does the job for me.
Great video and thanks for the honesty 👍🏽
LOVE this post. It's telling when they cut or minimize communication with you and ask you not to post the video. Communication should ramp UP if they actually cared about delivering on their promises.
As a home owner, I started out with the blue line long ago as I moved from corded to cordless. After several years, my wife purchased a new bag of the green line as a Christmas gift. The small black 2 amp batteries was not very good, but they were cheap compared to others. When I purchased the 4 amp batteries, these tools preformed much better. I am now deep into the line of Ryobi many years later. Do I think they have gotten to contractor grade, no…….. I think your videos prove that. As I watch some of the home improvement show on TV, I see lots of Ryobi drills. Product placement on these shows doesn’t mean their great. It just means they got them at no cost. Thanks for the video. I will keep watching.
Product placement $$$$. Look at Flex, they are advertising everywhere right now. They are working to buy their share of the market without having to prove they have the better tool.
@@WorkshopAddict But they all do that, which is why so many people watch for real world user reviews...
@@ZeoCyberG But the tool companies have picked up on that years ago and that 8s why you have a lot of contractors who post on IG or YT and are sponsored by tool ccompanies. Finding real world is impossible.
@@WorkshopAddict Sorry but that's like saying channels like yours don't exist. There's plenty of channels with reviews that aren't all sponsored and show real world use. Those that don't are typically discredited and people see them for what they are. So it goes both ways, don't confuse frustration with there only being one extreme to everything!
@@ZeoCyberG I guess in my head, I see all the guys we go to events with who are "real world" and think they are who you are talking about.
It sounds like TTI is just looking at numbers.
No TTI is looking at homeowners that think they want contractor grade tools but complain at the price
I've had my old Ryobi stuff for four years. They've done the rounds, no problem at all. I get brushless is supposed to be an improvement, but I like the simplicity and reliability of brushed tools. They just work.
I never liked the idea of Ryobi going Pro. It feels like all the DIY brands are trying to go pro and that leaves the DIY guys unable to stick to the platform if they can't afford the pro stuff. The whole point of Ryobi was to be the tool for the everyman, and they've done exceptionally well in that regard because DIY guys far exceed the number of contractors and all the Ryobi fans swear by them.
I don't know, maybe they tried to bring these out too soon. Time will tell. I just hope they don't try to phase out their DIY range.
As far as I can tell, they are essentially splitting their range. They have the brushed models for the everyman, the brushless generic for the DIYer, and the HP brushless for the contractor/Pro-sumer. Essentially trying to expand their reach to newer markets currently held by tools that can be up to double or more the cost. However, if their tools are going up in smoke literally for the contractor, there are obvious issues to be addressed.
Agree... diyer here. 15+ year Ryobi user and I have had little, to no issues with them. I abused some at times but I don't think they could stand up to everyday contractor use. Although a few of mine have been dropped more than once from the top of a barn while building it and survived. I do like their specialty tools. I am a crafter just bought both size glue guns....and couldn't resist the stick vac which sucks! I mean it actually sucks very well. I love it. But again I am in the category of happy Ryobi diyer where their market should remain.
If you can't afford Ryobi "pro line" then it's time for a change in work.
@@jonlake4754 it's not that I can't afford it, it's just that there's no need for it. I'm not even talking about me, I'm talking about the guys and girls that don't have the expendable budget to afford anything else. That isn't because of a career choice - jobs with a much higher salary aren't limitless.
@@littlemissblueyes100 I had an XR drill that dumbass coworker left on a roof for a year that I was in school. Texas bipolar weather. The chuck rusted out on it. I used it for well over a year after and would have to either bang it on a rock or throw it off of the roof onto pavement to get the chuck to unstick. I got real good at throwing it and making the drill land bit upwards. The drill still works but the chuck finally went out. I plan on replacing the chuck but have been putting it off because of how difficult it is to change on this particular model
My point is that the professional grade tools tend to be near indestructible outside of fringe happenings
2 years later and I find this video incredibly valuable. Was about to drop major dough on a full Ryobi setup as a DIY'er, but even as a DIY person, I have ZERO desire to see tools so easily go up in smoke.
As a tradesman I would not consider Ryobi, as a home owner I own and love a bunch of their tools, a big difference in what I expect out of a tool. At work I expect to push a tool to get the most productivity and I do not consider it abuse. At home a more leasurly pace. As a footnote at work 90% of my tools are corded because the battery stuff just does not have what I require for my jobs.
I’ve seen UA-cam videos about people using Ryobi to make money.
Well, it works.
I use it.
My across the street neighbor's hired contractor use it.
Why not?
It works.
I just recently bought my first ryobi tool. I purchased their 4 gallon sprayer and a small fertilizer spreader that they make. I was hesitant to get into a new battery format as I already have Ego, Milwaukee's M12 line and Dewalt's 20v tools. But Ryobi does make some very interesting niche tools and most importantly they are priced right.
I also have the sprayer, it's good - and a drill I don't use which was cheap enough to use as a battery/charger purchase - initially I was powering it with a dewalt battery rigged up :-D Plus one on 20vMax and M12, those are my main sets.
I have a dozen Ryobi tools now, having chosen them because so many van-lifers were using them, and I wanted to be compatible with that crowd. All my Ryobi tools are brushed, and I've had no problems. But I'm a light-duty DIY'er. And I'm now in my 70's. For my uses, I'm happy with them. BUT, if I were 40 years younger and wanted tools that I was confident in their longevity, I would choose another line of tools.
@@joshm2243 It's important to know WHAT was burning. If it was the motor I don't think it would have kept cutting like it did. Send that thing to AvE.
TTI quality control sucks this as their diy line they Don't really Care actually they care more about Milwaukee not even AEG /Ridgid as much in my personal opinion a lot of tool manufacturers have terrible quality control and I'm not talking about the cheap Walmart Amazon Chinese crap I'm talking name brands it's like the quality went down and the price went up
I left a message too for AVe the test that crazy flex tool line disassemble it and give us the stats on what it's made of and how it it's going to be interesting if he actually does it cuz I know that that's all hype and smoke it ain't real I watch that video it was a joke that they put out they held back those professional tools so that theirs can be the top competitor if they really let the smoke fly on the Milwaukee it would have killed flex end of story and I'm not a fanboy of any particular brand if it works and does the job and can handle what I put at it and doesn't smoke like this Ryobi I'm all over it I buy what I can get a deal on on what does the job for me
@@joshm2243 Right! On a sawzall the blade should give up long before the tool!
@@bluemantom77 actually no you're wrong. There are plenty of vids out there showing flex is more powerful than milwaukee. By unbiased reviewers and reviewers that support milwaukee. Plenty of vids out there proving flex is the real deal. They arent just some new company. They have been around for decades. They actually invented the angle grinder. They were more common across the pond and more for grinders and polishers for metal finishing and autobody. But now teamed up with chervon to expand their line of cordless tools.
Great job both reporting and demonstrating the issues you’ve had. I’ve had my Milwaukee tools temporarily stop but not one of them has smoked. I’m not loyal to specific brands, so this video is really helpful.
Great job comparing oranges to orange juice... Techtronic Industries (TTI) wants you to think Milwaukee is competing with Ryobi... even though TTI owns BOTH brands! So long as you keep drinking the koolaid. 🤫
@@FourDollaRacing This isn't news to me, these larger companies' ownership of these numerous tool brands is public knowledge. Why make assumptions about me? Explain how I'm drinking koolaid.
Great information, and I couldn't agree more. My Ryobi tools are nailers, fogger, fans, pressure washer, sprayer/mister in the 18 volt line. That's it. My drills, saws, carpentry, and mechanical tools, Milwaukee and Dewalt all day.
Thanks for your HONESTY !! the reason why I watch your channel. Thank You!
Thanks for making this video. I am solidly in the DIY category, but I have had two tools burn up on me. One was the orbital sander and the other a 1/2 inch impact wrench. The local service center was kind enough to fix the problem, and it took a couple weeks for them to get the parts. I was quite excited for the newer and better tools which allowed me to keep my old tools and batteries. I hope this issue gets resolved. I probably have 20 ryobi tools and could not imagine the cost to move to a different line. I love the thought I can grab a new tool, such as a brushless drill, without having to move to a new battery as well.
You guys have always been one of my favorite channels for power tool reviews and torture tests. You’ve always been open honest and forthright and I always take what you guys say into consideration when making a purchase. Thanks for the honest videos I truly appreciate them. Congrats on the weight loss btw looking good man!
Only guys with stereo that aren't loud use Ryobi... Jk. I just now subscribed to this channel, love it. Been a subscriber to yours for a while. Great vids on both channels! 💪🏽💪🏽
I used ryobi for a long time never had a tool fail yet. I am a DIYer and I push my tools hard. From drills to nail guns to hedge trimmers to saws to radios. I definitely wouldn’t spend the money on the HP line. All my tools are the brushless line with 3Ah batteries
how hard can you push the radio before it would smoke?? lol
@@loueber ..yes, I never, ever buy things like the radios, flashlights, etc., because I don't want to discharge my extra batteries I may need for my tools on stuff like that, and every discharge/recharge cycle you put the batteries through to use them on items like that, that's that many fewer cycles from their lifespan to use on your real tools..I don't need a radio, and I have plenty of maglites, heavy duty rechargeable flashlights, and the handy little LED pocket flashlights, so I don't need to put wear on my expensive cordless tool batteries to use them on a flashlight....
Totally in agreement with you. TTI building you less for more. I have almost all of the Rigid line and cannot believe how their new max output batteries lack performance compared to their old standard hyper lithium batteries. I have both in 2 + 4 A/H models - performance is no better + run time is approx 1/2. Cheap casings / cheap china cells and more money. Outright lying to us!
@@loueber I’ve had one of the radios for over a year now. It actually sounds amazing and with the 4.0AH HP battery it go for over 10yrs.
I am feeling pretty good about my old blue tools right now.
I don't use ryobi tools, but I am curious how exactly hard you pushed the tools. Because i think you can make any tool from makita, milwaukee or dewalt smoke up if you push them hard enough.
Truly appreciate you risking your connections (among other things) to show and spread the truth. You are one of a chillingly small few who have made a conscious decision and chose truth and consequences over lies and corruption. Cannot express how commendable and important an act that is.
I'm aware it's no consolation prize compared to what you have sacrificed and in all likelihood will continue to sacrifice in order to have your message heard, but you have made a fan for life! Sincerely, Thank you!
I love your honesty. My experience, as a home owner who uses Ryobi tools, has been good. Of course I very seldom push them hard for extended periods of time and I dont have many BRUSHLESS and none of the HP stuff. The reason I started with Ryobi was the price (started when they were blue and using nicad batteries). I had a few Dewalt but then they changed battery design and it was cheaper and easier to switch brands.
Watching the video... those tools were definitely communicating... you just apparently can't read smoke signals. :-)
IU am just an idiot behind the camera. :)
Best Honest Tool Review channel when actually using tools. And this dude does not yell and shout out who is watching for half the review! Yes ALL Tools brands Red,Green, Yellow, etc make some real crap tools, they just are damn slow to admit it if ever!
I always dig your reviews 🤙 Regardless of whether or not the smoke is grease, seals, or anything in between I can't imagine the embarrassment of having a home owner watch my tools go up in smoke. They would lose all confidence in the work you're doing. Great video!
yep, showing up with ryobi makes you look like the tool that works for cheap
BUT, any guy with skil can build quality with low end tools. Tools help IMHO, but......
William
Not if the home owner is smart or knowledgeable about how tools can fail, etc. FYI, I've personally seen a contractor's DeWalt tool fail in the heat.
To me ryobi has always been the brand for the new guy just starting out with no tools at all that can go get all of them for a decent price and then upgrade to dewalt and milwaukee as they can. That said I do personally know of one of their tools that is truly contractor grade. Their 18v caulk gun. They cost about $40(us) last time I bought one tool only. I used to do commercial refrigeration 100 hours a week for fortune 500 companies and that caulk gun is legit hands down. Reliable and issue free. They were popular with us because once you gummed it up too much with butyl it's a $40 replacement part that will otherwise run hard for years. And when I say run hard I mean 30+ tubes of butyl a day.
Got the caulk gun, totally legit. Only issue I have with it is a lack of an adjustment of the speed control on the trigger. Fine for people who do things with consistent gaps, not so good for a DIYer like me where the gap varies wildly.
@@jandrewmore good point. Ive only used it on walk in cooler builds and reach in cooler connections. You go full speed for both.
What I’m seeing in these videos are standard home/DIYer tools that will barely hold up to fairly normal or light usage over time. These tools seem suitable for the home user that will use them once or twice a year. I hate to say it, but a beginner would be better off buying cheap hazard fright tools for their first set.
Which is not t say that there aren’t one or two good tools in their entire collection, like you found with the caulk gun.
@@MarcosElMalo2 You're probably correct. I think you need to do your homework regardless of brand and make sure you don't have a dud. Even the mighty DeFault sometimes makes a bad tool.
@@jandrewmore Do those caulking guns support the large tubes of subfloor adhesive or just the small sized ones? I'd love to use one of those at work when I build prefab stairs and save my wrist.
I just bought the new impact wrench , I have used it quite a bit , it works great , I have a lot of the tools and they have medium homeowner use , no problems with any of them
I've never left a comment on any of your other videos in the past. That said, the honesty and transparency here certainly warrants one. Love the channel and your reviews. Thanks for looking out for your viewers and not selling out to the big guys!
Agree fully. Have really old Ryobi tools that have used for 6 years or more but now have brushless HP tools that are burning out 6 months from purchase. The worst ones are the circular saw brushless HP and the Multitool.
Agree burnt out the new multi tool in several hours after buying it
I have used ryobi for a few years and love all of their products that I have used. I am not a pro by any means, but I do use them quite a bit for personal use. I would definitely not recommend them for any pro but hey, you get what you pay for with tools!
Agreed. My old blue Ryobi kit served me really well and being able to upgrade to lithium batteries was great. The green hp circular saw that I bought last spring felt incredibly cheap. I don't push my tools that hard, just a home gamer, but I like to keep them around rather than throwing them away every couple years so I returned it. The Makita kit I replaced it with is on a completely higher level in every way.
I don't share your experiences at all. My first brushless Ryobi was a 1/2" drill. I brought it home, charged the batteries and loaded up a 1" Diablo paddle bit. I spent the next couple of hours drilling hardwood stumps for stump remover. The second brushless was the recip saw. It's performed very well while doing some demo work on my house. Then I picked up the 7 1/4" saw to check out your claim about the blade. I also picked up an aluminum Empire square just like your, plus a 12". I didn't use the Ryobi blade though. I put on a fresh 24 tooth Diablo blade and the saw was dead-on, right out of the box. There is a little metal tab on other shoe that serves as a stop. If it's bent, the blade won't zero. In 20 years or really close to it with Ryobi cordless, I've only had one drill burn up on me. It was my first Ryobi cordless drill and probably 15 years old. As for the old NiCads, they were only 1.5 to 1.8ah and the tools now are much more powerful. I've since added the brushless compact drill, the right angle drill, compact 1/4" impact driver, jig saw, 6 gallon wet/dry vac and a flashlight. So far, so good with them all. As they say, your mileage may vary.
I have several Ryobi tools, most HP and have never had a problem except for having to replace an air pump. That pump served me well for years and was the first cordless tool I purchased. We own a 40 acre movie ranch and these tools get a daily workout as something is always breaking...but not the Ryobi tools. I just purchased their 18 ga brushless nailer today at HD and will be using it to finish a movie set tomorrow. I will keep you apprised.
Thank you for the straight up honest information.
I have some "blue" Ryobi tools from a kit I bought years ago and every one of them still works very well.
Most recently I've migrated to the Ridgid line and I'm very happy. Personally I'm willing to pay a little more to know that I'll only have to pay once.
We the viewers count on you the content creator's to help us make informed decisions on how and where we spend our money.
I've watched many tool review videos where no matter how well a certain tool worked the individual was clearly biased toward their particular favorite tool brand, so I choose not to watch their videos anymore.
As long as you continue to put out straight up honest content I'll be here as a subscriber.
Thanks again for standing up for us and posting the video.
Being honest is all I have going for me. LOL
I watch a lot of tool reviews. I can tell you I listened when you said the HP line isn’t holding up. I started off with ryobi 12 years ago for home use. A year ago I got a new job that I had to use my own tools and I started with the Ryobi HP but I bought some Milwaukee stuff and haven’t looked back sold or returned my Ryobi. Part of that decision was because you’re one of the few reviewers that call out the tools that don’t claim they are something when they are not. I trust you more than most and when I want a new tool I look to see what you say before I buy.
You earned a subscriber. I have a boat load of Ryobi tools and most are fine for limited use ONLY. Again Most are not anywhere near contractor grade tools though there are a couple of exceptions (in my reality). In the last month I have had a circular saw and a recip saw go up in smoke. Motors were cheap and easy to replace and both tools are now back online. However, reality is now sinking in as I am using my tools more and more... and thus the weakness's are becoming more apparent. I'm a retired ex-pat living in the Philippines and just GETTING High Quality Tools is difficult, and if you can get them they are usually almost Double in Price especially when considering shipping cost. I can't even buy a Evolution Metal Chop Saw here for any price, so I'm stuck using a messy DeWalt abrasive chop saw... which is bullet proof by the way. I had several DeWalt tools shipped to me here in the Philippines but I have to use a voltage step-up as everything is 220V here and the U.S. is mostly 110V. DeWalt sold me a Miter Saw through Amazon that has a recall on the blade guard and they will ship the replacement to a U.S. address ONLY even though they shipped the original saw HERE. They also said my warranties are void because I use the tools "Out of Country," but I was never told about this when making the original purchases. Hence, if you ask me... most all tool manufacturers are only in it for the money and taking care of loyal customers isn't a high priority.
Thanks for being honest ! It is a hard character to find these days !You are holding the smoking tool ! Indisputable evidence.
Thanks for the video. I have a bunch of Ryobi tools and have been happy with them for use as a homeowner. But I guess I'll wait on buying into the HP line.
Wow! Last year I bought a brushed ryobi hammer drill and it saved my behind! I beat the crap out of it and it's still kicking butt!! I actually love it. I now have all the other brands but my ryobi has a high place in my heart!
PS: I made 140, 1" holes in my rack system I installed at home, and my ryobi got a bit hot but it never quit!
P213 here, 2-1/4 inch auger, and I've drilled 30 holes, no problem, and around 50 holes in masonry with a 10mm drill
So refreshing to see an honest review calling out the shortcomings of such a popular brand and big company. I have honestly been getting disillusioned by UA-camrs / "influencers" that "review" tools (and generally) products by simply unboxing and after limited "testing" (cut a few 2 x 4 or drill in few screws) and call it good to avoid upsetting their "manufacturer rep / contact". Not to mention manufacturers that outsource and / or fail to follow through on their warranty!! So its refreshing for a change to see a video / channel where the tools are put through its paces and review is honest feedback with the good AND bad to help the consumers make a more informed decision. Keep up the great work! 👍 And as someone who's considered a "big guy" and deals with related struggles, hats off on the dedication and discipline needed for the healthy changes! 👌🏻
I have been using Ryobi for more than ten years. It does the job done for half the price.
I love Ryobi, because I'm so invested in their one + batteries. But I hope Ryobi watches this video, because I have also had my fair share of issues. Bought their impact driver 2 years ago and in less than a year the chuck came loose and could no longer hold a shank. But I've also had some Ryobi tools that really blew me away, like their 18 gauge brad nailer, which I think blew away the competition. With Ryobi you really gotta do your homework and see if its legit or garbage.
@Ellis The DJ I am a carpenter and none of us on any job sites use Ryobi, we all know there is a high possibility the tool will die and we will loose a days work. Ryobi is not even a back up tools for us. We use air nailers, Hitachi, Dewalt or Milwaukee.
Ryobi nailers aren't even considered as a mater of fact when you look around a job site no trade carry Ryobi
@@rickyperkins232 maybe in your area. But i use them specially the 18g brad and 23g pin. Gets the job done.
Had same problem
I really like my nailer as well!
@@rickyperkins232 We use Ryobi all the time around here. They're fine, and especially great for the price. You're paying for a brand name. Dewalt is not what it used to be.
I have been using the Ryobi line for about 12 years. I have several of the old blue ones that still work for me every day. I have many of the new ones also, and they do seem less durable. I have also burnt a few up and been very disappointed. I think they are definitely lighter duty tools; that being said I feel that when you have a really tough job a good, corded tool still works best.
Good input
I've been on the Ryobi platform since 2006, when I inherited my dad's combo kit. After seeing how well they performed & how much cheaper they were than the Dewalt combo kit I currently "had". I sold my Dewalt kit almost immediately & hadn't looked back . . . until the last couple years. All of my original blues, though beat to death in so cases, ALL still work. I've NEVER had to or wanted to return any of my old blues. I have returned at least 60% of the green tools I've bought in the last couple years, including the LINK tool box trio, ordered them the 1st day they went on sale & returned them the next day. If you did the same, you may have noticed that by the time they were available in the H.D. stores, the mold for the big rolling box had been retooled. It also appeared they tweaked the telescoping handle too, as every one I tested in the store(s) worked much better. In short, I agree with you that the quality has dropped over the years & the prices have gone up substantially. That said, I haven't purchased any of the brushless Ryobi tools, mainly because they're selling off the brushed models at a great discount with the same warranty. I also picked up a used Ridgid combo kit at an estate sale a few months ago & I'm highly impressed with their build quality, so now I'm shopping a 2nd brand these days. Anyway, thanks for shedding light on this problem & I can't say I'm surprised, though disappointed, because I have several thousand $$$ invested in the Ryobi platform.
I support everything you said in this video and thanks for being brave enough to call a spade a spade. I too have the same problem with the Ryobi Circular saw not being 90 degree and it's frustrating to use because your cut is always bent or the saw continuously cuts off. It came that way from the factory and it's disgusting that Ryobi and the parent company is shovelling this kind of crap around, eventually the consumers will stop buying from that "parent company " all together because of their corporate Greed.
.."parent company" is in China...our own fault for allowing this sort of thing to happen, IMHO...
You have to set the bevel screw in any circular saw to 90°. It needs to be calibrated. Most circular saw will be accurate out of the box, but not always. Put it in a vise upside down. If you don't have an angle finder, just use a speed square, loosen the bevel adjust and the set screw that halts it at 90°. Adjust the plate to 90, screw in(or out) the set screw until it's making contact with the plate, tighten nut on set screw.
If the Ryobi saw doesn't have this bevel screw, I don't know what to tell you, but I've never seen a circular saw without one.
Lol "brave"
As a homeowner/diyer ryobi tools are great but i was skeptical about the hp line. It made no sense to me. At the prices they want i can get milwaukee tools. I own a lot of milwaukee/ ryobi. Thanks for the honest video.
Something is definitely wrong with the full size brushless reciprocating saw and the brushless sds rotary hammer. I have burned both. My older hammer drill is brushed and I have had to use it after burning the reciprocating saw and it still works today. Last time it got so hot I couldn't hold it anymore but I let it cool down and it kept going. I have probably 75+ ryobi 18v tools and everything else has been great. The 7 1/4 circular saw brushless has torn through so many remodels and waste boards I can't believe it's still going.
They are using thinner contacts and traces with lower quality mosfets and their thermal protection either isn't there or is set too high. When you pull current from a 9ah battery it will deliver it fast and they didn't build properly.
It also may be a bad shipment of parts. It happens to every company at some point but they have to fix it because the burnt oil smell then smoke then breakdown of the reciprocating saw is obviously happening to all of them. My replacement is still working but it still stinks and smokes so I give it a break before breaking it. Blades also matter a LOT. Harbor freight blades are trash. Spend the money on blades and it makes life much better!
I'm still not going to spend triple the money on Milwaukee because I'm not removing truck tires all day. It's just not worth it. I can take the ryobi back to home depot and swap it out for another no problem. They will eventually get the point.
They need to follow makitas lead and use dual 18v instead of 40v to keep people buying within the same platform. It would be a better way to utilize the batteries and keep design and R&D costs down. I have the ryobi dual bevel sliding miter saw which uses the dual batteries and it will go nonstop and is very accurate.
If I ever switch it'll be to makita. Milwaukee and Dewalt don't make enough other tools like yard and cleaning for me to switch.
I've got a lot of regular Ryobi tools that have seen a good deal of action and I've never had one smoke up on me. Some of them I've had for many years and I've never had to replace a tool yet. Maybe it's good I never bothered shelling out for the brushless. The basic tools are great, and unlike Dewalt or the other "Big Guys" who rape you on battery prices, Ryobi likes to throw them at you in bundles and cheap sales. I'm swimming in Ryobi batteries now and none of them have gone bad on me yet.
I've not personally had any problems with my Ryobi tools except for the recip saws. They never last for me. Granted I push them really hard, I tear apart pallets and use the wood for my projects, it's my hobby. But when the Harbor Freight $20 recip saw lasts longer and works better than my much more expensive Ryobi's, something is very wrong.
..speaking of the recip saws, has anyone else had issues with the Ryobi recip saws shaking the batteries loose and damaging the clips on the batteries?...I certainly have...not on any other of their tools, just the recip saws...
2 days in, my Ryobi drill just lit up and smokes like nothing I’ve seen before. Glad to see I’m not alone. Great Video
The big problem with brushless tools is their very complex and delicate control electronics. They cannot be repaired and the entire circuit must be replaced. Brushed motor tools are extremely robust and their 4-pole versions are very powerful, which is why they still exist. many dewalt xrp series tools 15 or 20 years old working today.
Thanks for your honesty, great video! I have some Ryobi tools and I only had an old blue Ryobi drill break on me. Other than that I have never had any major issues. However I do suspect that if a pushed my Ryobi tools as hard as other tool brands that I would experience a higher number of failures with my Ryobi tools.
Proof that Ryobi tools run on smoke: let the smoke out and they quit working.
I Purchased a Ryobi leaf blower and Weedwhacker combo. The weedwacker went up in smoke on me and I took it back to Home Depot. No questions asked and they gave me a new one. The warranty is why I will buy more stuff from them.
One thing I have learned is when I get a Ryobi cutting tool, I don't even put the included blade on. I put a Diablo blade on. Makes a huge difference and tool runs much easier and cleaner cut.
Well done!! I appreciate the truth without any “alternate realities”! Keep it up. Companies need to be taught that it isn’t about controlling the narrative, it’s about making quality products.
Dumpster fire says it all. Many people aren't telling it all. They do a few basic reviews and never use them again because they are likely promoting the tool for more clicks and their deal with the company
Kobalt XTR over Ryobi
I was going to go with the XTR line instead of the Ryobi HP, but the trigger on the Kobalt is way too stiff. I'm not looking to cause myself anymore pain through the day and that was a huge turn off for me. Trigger weight is everything when you're going hard for 8-16 hours a day.
That's great until the Kobalt line is discontinued. I have no faith Lowes will keep them around forever.
@@TheImtoomuch i bet theres more of a chance of home depot dropping husky ridgid or ryobi than lowes dropping kobalt. Chervon owns both flex and kobalt, but they are completely different class of tools and at completely different price points for a completely separate market. I highly doubt lowes would drop kobalt to make craftsman their house brand. That would just be a really stupid move. Lowes is more for the homeowner/DIYer and home depot is more for contractors which is why kobalt isnt going anywhere.
@@jacksmith2315 Ridgid may die, but not Ryobi. Not going to happen anytime soon.
Mobile Carpenter here: I was thinking of dropping my makita 18v platform for Ryobi HP. I guess not any more.. thanks for real review..
I see my self as a prosumer and have tons of Ryobi..and love'em. The old brushed ones take soo much abuse, ironically only thing I have returned on warranty is the new HP compact drill. I got the money back, but actually bought a new one because the formfactor is very fitting for my hands and use. Man...10/10 for honesty, keep it up!
It’s amazing what companies will do to try to keep you from finding out and just what type of product they make and if it is a dumpster fire which is certainly looks like I appreciate you informing us of the issue
I have not tried the brushless tools, never had any issues with the standard range, very powerful never had a problem yet. May be the brushless stuff is not worth the money?? Literally bought a Jig Saw today, and will be putting it through it's paces tomorrow. I bought if for a job that needs to be done tomorrow. PS, I am not sponsored by Ryobi, would love to be though.
I can understand why Ryobi isn't happy about your video. I am glad to see you put out an honest, real life test of a tool. That is why I follow your channel. I needed a cordless 7 ¹/⁴ chop saw and because I had an old Ryobi blue corded 7 ¹/⁴ chop saw that has never failed me, I bought a new brushless cordless Ryobi chop saw. It sucks. That first time I used it to cut a 2 x 4, it cut out half way through the cut. I was using the battery that came with it, which was 4 amp hour battery. I have never used it since and just recently through it in the garbage. Thanks for your videos.
with weak saws, you can sometimes give them new life with a thin (kerf) blade. I do that on the $50 circ saw from McCoy's.
@@wim0104 I had a brand new thin kerf blade on there.
I have 7-year-old Ryobi hammer drill and it's still going to this day
You are spot on! I have a neighbor who is a Ryobi fangirl. She's only had Ryobi on her jobsites (she's in her mid-60's now). But, like you said, the Ryobi of today is not the Ryobi she remembers. I get openly criticized by her for going with Makita (now Milwaukee since Makita made a poor choice with their new battery platform implementation, in my opinion). I'll tell you, I have Milwaukee's brushless hammer drill/driver and I used that thing to drill a 2.5" diameter by 8" deep hole through brick! 15 solid minutes of drilling and it did it! The drill got hot for sure, but it didn't smoke. Very happy to have moved to Milwaukee so far.
ppl who pick on other's tool choices are id10ts; figure out why it works for them, and learn sth.
I am sure it was just fun neighborly banter.
My dad is a Dewalt guy through and through, but recently used my Milwaukee hammer drill and was very impressed with it. He actually pulled it out of the brick and looked it over like it was alien technology.
I've use a Milwaukee Fuel 1/2" hammer drill at work for about five years now, and that thing is a beast! I've used it to drill with a 2-1/2" forsner bit through 2x6s, because someone stole my Hole Hawg, I've drilled 1/2" holes in concrete for concrete bolts, I've drilled out a broken piece out of the hub of a 4" ABS santee with a special tool that fits down in the pipe and there is a blade on the edge of it that cuts the pipe out of the hub, if that makes sense. That bordered on abuse! She was too hot to hold with your bare hands by the time I had it cut out of the hub. That was about three years ago, and I still use that drill every day.
When did Fisher-Price change their name to Ryobi?
I purchased a small, run-down house several years ago to fix up for rental income. I was a DIYer and had no tools. Friends advised Mikita and Milwaukee, so I have a mix of both. Later I regretted spending that much, thinking I would have done fine with Ryobi. Now I’m glad I went with top of the line, as they will last a lifetime.
I love this channel and I love your honesty we need more people like you on UA-cam
Marketing is all about smoke and mirrors. In this case, literally! Shame on Ryobi. I'll hold on the HP !ine. Great video.
I do diy stuff at home and use ryobi but at the steel mill it’s dewalt, I think ryobi is good for home use not contractor grade no matter what they say.
I just picked up a Ryobi PBLHM101 hammer drill before Christmas. I already own the batteries and had a good experience with one of their lower cost drills. While going through the functions of the drill, before even using it, I noticed the clutch wouldn't go into the lowest setting. When I turned the clutch through its settings, it got stuck around 6 and I had to force it past this detent to to put it back in the drill position. It was defective right out of the box. I returned it and got a replacement that seems fine. I hope I don't regret this purchase.
I have an old 5-6 year old impact driver that goes hard all day long, I’ll be honest I’m a tool snob, tradesman for 25 years, tools of choice Makita, Hitachi, and Blue Bosch, no cheap tools in my collection. I needed them for work so they needed to perform everyday. I have hand tools and power tools that are 25-30 years old. When I bought the impact driver it was for a reno at home, great tool still is, but the brushless Ryobi drill I bought 2 years years ago not very good when asked to do a normal days work. My 8 year old blue Bosch still kicks it’s arse, I’ll be honest still rather run a cord, power all day no issues. Corded 750 Watt Makita drill and saw go all day long without missing a beat.
Most reviews from big tool review channels are as honest as WWE is real. They don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. I only watch them to see what's new but I pay no attention to their opinions because they all sound like salesmen to me.
What’s wrong with sales people? Sales is one of the highest paid professions, with good sales people making well over 6 figures. I’ve been in tech sales for over 30 years, educating customers, analyzing issues and recommending solutions.
@@martylucas8557 there is nothing at all wrong with sales people. I personally don't trust sales people to tell me the whole truth about the products they are selling. So my point is, I don't pay attention to the opinions because they will only be telling me the reviews the brands want people to hear
I don't believe you are alone with these tools going all to hell, I myself was interested in the new brushless one hand saw until I saw some of the customer reviews on the HD website and yes they seem to stink. I love Ryobi it is the only tool/battery platform that I have used for several years but now it's time to pay close attention to what the users/customers are saying.
I just keep seeing things with Ryobi that I don't like. Decided to standardize on the brand a couple of years ago. But other than a charger, two different sized batteries, a hot glue gun, and a digital display tire-inflator.... I haven't bought any other Ryobi tools. Just worked out that way. Maybe I'm fortunate it did.
The tire-inflatoe is great. Bit loud, and the display is always off by 2 PSI. But consistently off by it. Just add two more PSI to get what you want. Saved my bacon for a week of work before I found out at the mechanic's garage what was causing the slow, consistent leak in my car tire. Then again, any tire-inflator could have done that. Plus, not as though that's a cordless tool that gets pushed hard. I guess I haven't gone too far down the Ryobi rabbit-hole, and can standardize on a better brand. I do own a DeWalt router.
I just bought the Ryobi HP kit. It is outstanding and works like a dream. Every machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.
I've been using ryobi for 15 years. All my old blue tools just wont die. I got a combo kit at my job they are great. I bought the new hp 3 inch cut off tool and burned it up in 20 minutes the first time i used it. Love the old tools. The new stuff is junk
Ryobi makes great brushed tools but their brushless designs are hit and miss.
I agree with you the quality of the new tools is horrible. I bought the rotary cleaning tool and it stopped working after 30 minutes of use. I called Ryobi and complained and no one cared. I saw a Ryobi rep at my local Home Depot a week later and asked why I should continue with buying additional Ryobi tools when the quality is obviously down he said he would bring up my concerns with management. So I doubt anything will change. It’s great they are bringing all these new tools but if they don’t last why bother.
I used to be into RC cars so I know a thing or two about brushless tech. Ryobi said they were making these tools smaller and lighter. Looks like they went too small. They need bigger torque and bigger motors that won't overheat and use less amps doing so.
Thank you for being a cool dude telling the truth! I just hope the Milwaukee tools won't follow this trend.
I hope so too
They make tools solid in the beginning and over time tbey make them cheaper and cheaper once they built the confidence that the quality is there
Hay, honestie is always the right choice! AND THANK YOU.
I totally agree with you. Thank you!!! I thought I’d try and give them another shot myself after having a total disappointing experience with their tools years ago. I bought the new garden pump sprayer. On my 2nd time using it, it stop staying about 1 minute into spraying!!! What a piece of crap!!! Returned it.
Best Regards,
Cesar
This is sure disappointing to see. I have a lot of Ryobi’s brushed tools and never had an issue with them while I used them. The only brushless tool I bought was their belt sander. I know people that still have the blue tools from 20 years ago and they are still going strong. They better get their act together!
This guy either has the worst luck or something is going on here. He also blew a non brushless circular saw. So many people never had any issues so I have no idea why is.
In the Ryobi tool fans Facebook group I've seen some of the same comments about the older tools being more durable. My guess is that TTI is trying out cheaper parts/designs to see what they can get away with. Expectations for Ryobi are lower to begin with so if a design or part doesn't work out no big deal for TTI.
I AM A CONTRACTOR DOING REMODELING AND I HAVE NEVER EVER HAD A TOOL BREAK DOWN. I DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING BUT THATS CRAZY! I HAVE UPGRADED SOME TOOLS BUT MY HELPERS ABUSE THE HELL OUT OF THE RYOBI TOOLS AND NEVER HAD AN ISSUE. ACCTUALLY THE BATTERIES LENGTH OF LIFE BLOWS AWAY DEWALT.
Not sold on the HP Brushless systems. I got into the Ryobi line years ago ( green color casings ) as I worked at a barn and would use my wages to get cordless tools. In no time I was all over the place being able to do work faster. I was building a stall for my horse and bought the small chop saw. Did ok but had to flip the 4x4s several times in order to get the cut. Too slow. Found a 36v Ryobi radial arm saw and that thing was a beast. I'm quite satisfied with the Ryobi platforms except for a recep saw that began having that burn smell to it. Another UA-cam vid showed a guy with the same problem and discovered the cooling fan assembly didn't work. It runs but I took advantage of the Ryobi sale buy a battery day sale and pick up a free tool and got a new recep that doesn't smell. As I understand TTI has acquired Ryobi and they make several tool lines including Hart at Walmart and according to the Tool Bear with the few tweaks and casing color being white instead of green it's a Ryobi.
I don't buy " upgrades " just for the sake of it being new and improved. I'll replace if/as I need.
Good shit Brian...Never BS on this channel....☝️
And you're right....there's definitely something wrong with this lineup..it's on video...smoked em all and didn't really push em too hard ..really just like they should be used.... I've never had any trouble with my Ridgid Gen5X and Octane tools not really sure about the new lineup (I don't have any) but my Ridgid tools have never failed me...
Well, Ridgid HP and Ryobi HP are now the same. Good luck in the future. Hope the LSA works!
@@WorkshopAddict exactly the same tools on the inside?
I have a decent amount for ridgid tools, and my bro has a lot of ridgid tools. We both started with the gen 5x, before they went brushless. We both had to have recips and drills repaired. Him more than me but hes harder on his tools and uses them everyday doing HVAC and homeowner/DIYer. Im a mechanic and DIYer so i dont use those tools as often as he does, but they have both been a problem for both of use. Their impacts and everything else have been great though. Neither of us have got any of their new line, but he does have some of their sub compact stuff which has also been solid. We are both looking into slowly switching platforms. Hes probably going to go with flex or metabo hpt, most likely flex, and im probably going to switch to makita.