Aaron, you have great brothers. Owen is a born salesman. Good to hear from mom as well. You guys are hard working and neat. Thanks for the different views and keep up the good work.
Would highly suggest a fire extinguisher on tractor or bailer or both. With that dry of material, new or old bailer still have a lot of friction. 4 wraps is good, as long as there not falling apart.
You need a fire extinguisher on the tractor and one on the baler. Big one's I saw a few burn to the ground. I had a old New Holland 847 catch fire and if I didn't have a extinguisher I would have lost it.
Great video, Would highly suggest not using the end gate to stop bales coming out, you can leave the PTO on and not worry about throttling down,definitely recommend a fire extinguisher with you as well. I have found 3.5 wraps on corn stalks is about perfect even with finer chopped stalks, 2.5 is a great amount on hay, you can always put more on if handling them a lot, it’s personal opinion as well sometimes hopefully this helps.
Leave the PTO on, and don't throttle back when you are ejecting a bale. The belts have to engage the spinning driver to get in to place when the door is closing. The finer the material, the more wraps of net are needed. Mature, 1st cut grass can be moved with 2.5 wraps, later cuts of shorter material means more wraps of net, but 3-4 should be ok for shredded stalks. Great video, and good luck with that machine! I definitely recommend a fire extinguisher on it, you may save yourself some heartache later.👍👍
I use New Holland 5x6 balers to make 5-8,000 stalk bales a year. We do not stop the PTO or slow the engine down to dump. 3.25 turns of net has been working very well on everything from long tough stalks to the finest driest stalks. Pritchett net. I would suggest applying a fraction of a turn over an even number to utilize your last turn of net most effectively. .2 turn over is enough. I agree with the comment not to use the door to catch bales. That is asking for trouble. I would highly recommend carrying a water fire extinguisher. Round balers are tin cans, especially with the door open and they are also Zippos.
Don’t be shy when wrapping, couple more turns will keep you’re bales together and stronger. This when loading, unloading and stacking will prevent wasted round bales. There’s nothing more frustrating than picking up a bale from storage and can’t make it to the barn. You’ll see watch I mean this winter. Keep on the good work.
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I always make my wraps at 2.25, 3.25 or 4.25 - and use 4.25 in dry stalks - the extra 0.25 I think ties in the 4th wrap otherwise the 4th doesn’t help with keeping the bale together. I have had real good luck with Vermeer balers.
3 wraps is usually ok on cornstalks with good quality net. 4 sure isn’t going to hurt if you’re handling them multiple times though, especially with shredded fodder. I like to see 2-3 ft minimum of overlap at the ends of the net but an extra half wrap is more than you need. One thing you want to be aware of is that the baler monitor isn’t necessarily accurate on how many wraps you’re applying. The monitor applies net according to a timer based on bale size and your net setting number. If your pto rpm varies it will throw it off. You just have to pay attention to how much overlap you’re getting and adjust accordingly. On our baler for 2 wraps it needs to be set on 2.3, for 3 wraps it needs to be set on 3.4, and for 4 wraps it needs 4.3. Yours will probably be a little different though. Hope this helps.
Don’t use your gate to stop the bale. You can spring your gate a little bit and it won’t latch rite. I would bale about 3.000 bales a year. I loved round baleing it was awesome. And I did a lot of custom baleing also.
Another great video! Excellent use of the wagons and I love seeing the “M” in action. The round baler is a good investment and with all the family help you should be able to do some custom work. Thanks for sharing.
We put 4.2 wraps on everything. I know that’s a lot for hay but I figure for the extra $2 a bale or whatever it works out to be it’s worth it. Especially on bales that sit outside. Those extra dry cornstalks will be nice this winter!!
Thanks for another great video. The fun of baling. For me I set the throttle and leave it. I’m running a little bit bigger baler since I don’t have to worry about hills. I am doing the 5 foot wide. But when it comes time to wrap and dump the bale I don’t throttle down.
Great video. That's going to be dusty material when you bed up the cows. Looks a good baler. We've used an older John Deere baler for years. All the best 🇬🇧.
I haven't ran a Deere round baler, but have ran a couple Claas balers and a Case IH. Case IH is a belt baler Claas are both steel roll balers. I start the PTO and run the throttle up to PTO speed and leave it there until I'm done with the field. When ejecting a bale, clutch stop in the windrow and dump the bale, close tailgate and keep going. That's how everyone around "here" runs a round baler. I haven't seen any reason to do anything different. Unless Deere says otherwise, I'd think backing up and throttling down is unnecessary steps to make and extra shifting. As always, a couple good looking Deere you have there!
Also DONT use gate to catch bale - you WILL bend something. Dump the bale up slightly up the hill but parallel with slope & they will stay there. Never dump down hill. On steep ground I slow rpms down but don’t turn pto off. We bale 2K per year, most on steep ground
4 wraps for corn stalks and 3 on hay for moving around. Most people do 2-2.5 on hay though. 3 for straw is what we do. Run PTO at PTO speed at ejecting the bale and we just turn around and back uphill and let the bale bounce once and it will most of the time settle in place if we are not on flat ground.
Always a learning curve starting with new equipment. Looks like you're making nice bales. Our neighbor has made a number of corn stover bales and has commented that the dirt/dust are harder on bearings. Sure a good way to make use of wagon space!!! Teamwork gets it done on your farm.
Aaron plz don't tweak that gate. U r better off to drive to a flat spot than tweak that door. I'm on some steep stuff in our area and it's easier to travel them bales to a good area
4 wrap s . 569 premium 😊pulled by. 4440 I never backup to dump, as soon as b bell goes off a swerve out of windrow and look for good place to dump. Dry materials go cross ways to start bale. I never shut the baler off.
Leave it throttled up and pto going yes you need 3 wraps of hay because cornstalks put more pressure and will want to explode apart unlike hay. At least that is what works for me.
We use a Massey Ferguson RB4160V to make 4x5 bales. It makes a really nice bale, and we put 4 wraps on. I don't idle while wrapping or shut it off. When I used to bale with a New Holland BR740A, I tried 3-3.5 wraps but would have a bale explode every so often. I haven't had an issue after I went to 4 wraps. I use a Hiniker 15 ft. windrower to chop. I make a first pass with the windrower opened up to spread the stalks out. I let it dry a day or two and then run back over the fields with the same windrower and actually windrow the second pass. The Hiniker has an auger the moves the stalks to one end so what I like to do is turn right around and lay two windrows side by side for a nice double row. I tried using a v-rake a few years ago, but the bedding had so much more dirt and dust in it.
On the rolls of Deere netwrap it has a recommendation chart on a small piece of folded paper that gets pretty close. Personally I always run 3.5 on corn fodder and bean stubble 2.5-3 on dry hay and 3 on haylage. Biggest thing is don’t idle the tractor down until it is completely wrapped or you will get inaccurate net wraps for example you have it set on 2.5 and you’ll get that if you’re at PTO speed if you idle down you can possibly get 1.5 or 4 it’s just something they do.
Most farmers don't do this but we always did . Power wash off all our equipment and grease it after we're done with it and store them away til next season
I think a lot of farmer pressure wash their equipment. I plumbed my electric washer in directly so I can just pull up and start washing. Clean machines are easier to maintain.
I usually never slow down engine speed. It's best to keep the belts turning in the same speed for tensions. I gave up on corn stalks with a round baler just too much dirt and abrasive. Went to a big square baler and tractor clutch life got much better.
This is what I googled. "jd 450m round baler how many wraps for corn stalks". and this was the response. "The recommended number of layers of netwrap for corn stalks is four. " This is all I have being a non farmer. But I'm interested
I bale with a 458 round baler on hills just like yours. Obviously just make sure you are completely parallel to the contour, don't stop the PTO and I don't mess with trying to catch them with the end gate. If it's a really steep field, I'll drive to somewhere it's not quite so steep to unload. And loosing a couple a year is totally normal. I'm curious to see how you are going to unload those wagons
Did they buy a Cadillac? Or a tool to make the farm more efficient? Upkeep and improvements are constant things. Even when milk prices are low, you still have to spend $ to maintain and improve.
I don't think they spend much at all. I'd say they run a pretty tight ship. That tractor is over 20 years old. They were built from 1999 to 2002. And the other two John Deer's are about the same vintage. They just look new because they take good care of them. The rest of the tractors are old old. Silage chopper has to be at least 20 years old. That corn picker probably came west on a wagon train. Like the one gentleman said, you gotta spend some money for improvements and upgrades. I'd say any purchase they make is well thought through before they make it. I bet their balance sheet looks pretty good too.
I have a 468 I had to put baby powder on the rubber roll for the first 4 to 5 rolls of net wrap to keep from wrapping I use 3.5 wrapping on corn stalks
I would not use the gate to stop the bale you will bend your gate or your cylinders. I don’t know if it makes a difference but I do throttle down when I let a bale out on hill sides
Dry dry corn stocks are very hard to bale.Your doing very well at it. Some farmers put a fire extinguisher on thier baler. Day stocks wlli start on 🔥 sometimes, Just saying. Thanks 😊.
❤😊 EXTRA WRAP IS NEEDED FOR DRY STALKS !!! WE HAVE A NEW HOLLAND ROUND BALER WE LEAVE IT RUN !!! I WAS DOING THE BACK UP TO THE FLAT OR DRIVE DOWN TO THE FLAT ❤😊 WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU ❤😊
Why back up to dump? I have never seen another farmer do this. Sees strange. My Uncle farms in SE Ohio on hillsides that are steep and never had a bale to roll down hill.
I hate to tell you guys this. I think the more you use this round bailer the less you will like bailing small squares. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy watching you make them. I just hated to do it. For me that was the worst job on the farm. Just my opinion I suffered with hay fever and got no sympathy.
Aaron, you have great brothers. Owen is a born salesman. Good to hear from mom as well. You guys are hard working and neat. Thanks for the different views and keep up the good work.
Would highly suggest a fire extinguisher on tractor or bailer or both. With that dry of material, new or old bailer still have a lot of friction. 4 wraps is good, as long as there not falling apart.
DEFINITELY a Fire Extinguisher on the baler! JD doesn't have greaseable bearings on the rollers, and they will cause fires!
Cousin had his burn up on year definitely a good idea
I always did 3 wraps on stalk bales 4 if it was real dry
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You need a fire extinguisher on the tractor and one on the baler. Big one's I saw a few burn to the ground. I had a old New Holland 847 catch fire and if I didn't have a extinguisher I would have lost it.
That is a great idea to fill the chopper boxes with corn stalks... Free storage.
Nice since they store them inside.
Great job guys. Video was really good. Thanks for taking me along.
Corn stalks are abrasive as hell, start observing, watch for any excessive wear in that baler. Looking good.
Great video, Would highly suggest not using the end gate to stop bales coming out, you can leave the PTO on and not worry about throttling down,definitely recommend a fire extinguisher with you as well.
I have found 3.5 wraps on corn stalks is about perfect even with finer chopped stalks, 2.5 is a great amount on hay, you can always put more on if handling them a lot, it’s personal opinion as well sometimes hopefully this helps.
Leave the PTO on, and don't throttle back when you are ejecting a bale. The belts have to engage the spinning driver to get in to place when the door is closing. The finer the material, the more wraps of net are needed. Mature, 1st cut grass can be moved with 2.5 wraps, later cuts of shorter material means more wraps of net, but 3-4 should be ok for shredded stalks. Great video, and good luck with that machine! I definitely recommend a fire extinguisher on it, you may save yourself some heartache later.👍👍
Great advice
@druewilson1079 Thanks, I've been at it for a few years... 👍👍
I use New Holland 5x6 balers to make 5-8,000 stalk bales a year. We do not stop the PTO or slow the engine down to dump. 3.25 turns of net has been working very well on everything from long tough stalks to the finest driest stalks. Pritchett net. I would suggest applying a fraction of a turn over an even number to utilize your last turn of net most effectively. .2 turn over is enough. I agree with the comment not to use the door to catch bales. That is asking for trouble. I would highly recommend carrying a water fire extinguisher. Round balers are tin cans, especially with the door open and they are also Zippos.
Don’t be shy when wrapping, couple more turns will keep you’re bales together and stronger. This when loading, unloading and stacking will prevent wasted round bales. There’s nothing more frustrating than picking up a bale from storage and can’t make it to the barn. You’ll see watch I mean this winter. Keep on the good work.
Your brother is awesome, such energy you keep it going 💯!
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I always make my wraps at 2.25, 3.25 or 4.25 - and use 4.25 in dry stalks - the extra 0.25 I think ties in the 4th wrap otherwise the 4th doesn’t help with keeping the bale together. I have had real good luck with Vermeer balers.
Aaron your dad did a great job baling corn stalks
Four wraps on corn stalks, 2.5 on grass hay. Run full pto speed when closing gate. Corn stalks are the hardest thing on a baler, in my opinion.
3 wraps is usually ok on cornstalks with good quality net. 4 sure isn’t going to hurt if you’re handling them multiple times though, especially with shredded fodder. I like to see 2-3 ft minimum of overlap at the ends of the net but an extra half wrap is more than you need. One thing you want to be aware of is that the baler monitor isn’t necessarily accurate on how many wraps you’re applying. The monitor applies net according to a timer based on bale size and your net setting number. If your pto rpm varies it will throw it off. You just have to pay attention to how much overlap you’re getting and adjust accordingly. On our baler for 2 wraps it needs to be set on 2.3, for 3 wraps it needs to be set on 3.4, and for 4 wraps it needs 4.3. Yours will probably be a little different though. Hope this helps.
Don’t use your gate to stop the bale. You can spring your gate a little bit and it won’t latch rite. I would bale about 3.000 bales a year. I loved round baleing it was awesome. And I did a lot of custom baleing also.
Great use of corn stalks. bailing them that dry is a pain but it makes better bedding.
Another great video! Excellent use of the wagons and I love seeing the “M” in action. The round baler is a good investment and with all the family help you should be able to do some custom work. Thanks for sharing.
We put 4.2 wraps on everything. I know that’s a lot for hay but I figure for the extra $2 a bale or whatever it works out to be it’s worth it. Especially on bales that sit outside. Those extra dry cornstalks will be nice this winter!!
Thanks for posting Guys
Thanks for another great video. The fun of baling.
For me I set the throttle and leave it. I’m running a little bit bigger baler since I don’t have to worry about hills. I am doing the 5 foot wide. But when it comes time to wrap and dump the bale I don’t throttle down.
Great video. That's going to be dusty material when you bed up the cows. Looks a good baler. We've used an older John Deere baler for years. All the best 🇬🇧.
When I round baled corn stalks i would put 3 wraps on a bale. They stay together a lot better.
I haven't ran a Deere round baler, but have ran a couple Claas balers and a Case IH. Case IH is a belt baler Claas are both steel roll balers. I start the PTO and run the throttle up to PTO speed and leave it there until I'm done with the field. When ejecting a bale, clutch stop in the windrow and dump the bale, close tailgate and keep going. That's how everyone around "here" runs a round baler. I haven't seen any reason to do anything different. Unless Deere says otherwise, I'd think backing up and throttling down is unnecessary steps to make and extra shifting. As always, a couple good looking Deere you have there!
Some SERIOUS tires on that baler. I guess they help immensely to hold all that weight on the hillsides.
Great job baling Aaron
Also DONT use gate to catch bale - you WILL bend something. Dump the bale up slightly up the hill but parallel with slope & they will stay there. Never dump down hill. On steep ground I slow rpms down but don’t turn pto off. We bale 2K per year, most on steep ground
4 wraps for corn stalks and 3 on hay for moving around. Most people do 2-2.5 on hay though. 3 for straw is what we do. Run PTO at PTO speed at ejecting the bale and we just turn around and back uphill and let the bale bounce once and it will most of the time settle in place if we are not on flat ground.
I remember years ago we chopped corn stalks one time or another into chopper wagons a blew in into the straw mow.
4 wrap s corn stalk , 3 grass, 2 wrap alfalfa.
So glad you are getting some good bedding put up
Great video nice team work. Great hoodie Owen
Always a learning curve starting with new equipment. Looks like you're making nice bales. Our neighbor has made a number of corn stover bales and has commented that the dirt/dust are harder on bearings. Sure a good way to make use of wagon space!!! Teamwork gets it done on your farm.
Looks like a lot of hard work but enjoyable work with your family! Thanks for sharing!
Great video Aaron
Aaron plz don't tweak that gate. U r better off to drive to a flat spot than tweak that door. I'm on some steep stuff in our area and it's easier to travel them bales to a good area
1st and 2nd alfalfa 2.2 wraps 3rd 4th 3.5 5th 4 grass 3 corn stalks and straw 4
Owen has way too much energy still after a full day 😂😂
I think I would use the fancy saw mill to make some lumber to build a bale wagon.
You need to get " over the edge" net wrap. Stalks are quite slippery and will want to internally slide. Not like hay.
4 wrap s . 569 premium 😊pulled by. 4440 I never backup to dump, as soon as b bell goes off a swerve out of windrow and look for good place to dump. Dry materials go cross ways to start bale. I never shut the baler off.
Leave it throttled up and pto going yes you need 3 wraps of hay because cornstalks put more pressure and will want to explode apart unlike hay. At least that is what works for me.
Baby powder on the rubber roll periodically helps prevent the wrap from wrapping on the roller instead of going into the baler. Plus it smells nice 😂
You guys will need to pick up a runinng gear and mill out some lumber for bunks to use hauling bales.
Great video. Those bales look to be really tight. Any guess on the weight? Thanks for the video.
i like seeing your farming activities. Thank you.😊😊
Hey guys! Baby powder on the rubber roller that net wrap goes through. Yes extra wrap on corn stalks. I run a 459 silage special john deere.
We have a 560M and we put four wraps on our corn stalk bales!
Nice to see Owen gettin into it.]
Owen’s mustache is glorious
New to your channel,love the video and very informative
I always counted to ten on one side move over to the other side count to ten for even bales , stop belts to dump bale , hope this helps
Nice job! My jd 459 baler book says leave it run while wrapping
Just a suggestion. Great videos
We use a Massey Ferguson RB4160V to make 4x5 bales. It makes a really nice bale, and we put 4 wraps on. I don't idle while wrapping or shut it off. When I used to bale with a New Holland BR740A, I tried 3-3.5 wraps but would have a bale explode every so often. I haven't had an issue after I went to 4 wraps. I use a Hiniker 15 ft. windrower to chop. I make a first pass with the windrower opened up to spread the stalks out. I let it dry a day or two and then run back over the fields with the same windrower and actually windrow the second pass. The Hiniker has an auger the moves the stalks to one end so what I like to do is turn right around and lay two windrows side by side for a nice double row. I tried using a v-rake a few years ago, but the bedding had so much more dirt and dust in it.
Another great video!!
Another great video
On the rolls of Deere netwrap it has a recommendation chart on a small piece of folded paper that gets pretty close. Personally I always run 3.5 on corn fodder and bean stubble 2.5-3 on dry hay and 3 on haylage. Biggest thing is don’t idle the tractor down until it is completely wrapped or you will get inaccurate net wraps for example you have it set on 2.5 and you’ll get that if you’re at PTO speed if you idle down you can possibly get 1.5 or 4 it’s just something they do.
We used to square bale thousands of corn stalks. Working the wagon and breathing that dirt all day was nasty.
How are the food plots doing?
Most farmers don't do this but we always did . Power wash off all our equipment and grease it after we're done with it and store them away til next season
I think a lot of farmer pressure wash their equipment. I plumbed my electric washer in directly so I can just pull up and start washing. Clean machines are easier to maintain.
I've gone to plastic wrapping all my bales,corn stalks included.
I usually never slow down engine speed. It's best to keep the belts turning in the same speed for tensions. I gave up on corn stalks with a round baler just too much dirt and abrasive. Went to a big square baler and tractor clutch life got much better.
I do 5 wraps so bails when stored don't get flat on bottom also you need a kick plat on the back of bailer those are very nice to have
Nice video Aaron
Always seems after those first couple bales things need to get dialed in with any machine you use.
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Mom is a tractor driver also. That is great
This is what I googled. "jd 450m round baler how many wraps for corn stalks". and this was the response. "The recommended number of layers of netwrap for corn stalks is four. " This is all I have being a non farmer. But I'm interested
I bale with a 458 round baler on hills just like yours. Obviously just make sure you are completely parallel to the contour, don't stop the PTO and I don't mess with trying to catch them with the end gate. If it's a really steep field, I'll drive to somewhere it's not quite so steep to unload. And loosing a couple a year is totally normal. I'm curious to see how you are going to unload those wagons
We never ran net rap always ran poly twine
We make 54 inch bales that we put in the shed.
Yeah that was a really great video I enjoyed it I'd like to see your milking operation sometime and how many head you have?
My baler is an old gehl 1865 twine only always bale with a foot throttle and idle down when i dump but thats just me😅
3.5 on a John Deere 561m in corn stalks
GO PACK GO
21:35 i like this sence, so beautiful. What time? When you camera that sence
Milk must be bringing good money the way you guys spend money. Good for you
Did they buy a Cadillac? Or a tool to make the farm more efficient? Upkeep and improvements are constant things. Even when milk prices are low, you still have to spend $ to maintain and improve.
@@MorganOtt-ne1qj I agree with you milk prices haven't been that good for a long time.
I don't think they spend much at all. I'd say they run a pretty tight ship. That tractor is over 20 years old. They were built from 1999 to 2002. And the other two John Deer's are about the same vintage. They just look new because they take good care of them. The rest of the tractors are old old. Silage chopper has to be at least 20 years old. That corn picker probably came west on a wagon train. Like the one gentleman said, you gotta spend some money for improvements and upgrades. I'd say any purchase they make is well thought through before they make it. I bet their balance sheet looks pretty good too.
Don’t see any new diesel pickups no outside labor they make it work mom even helps and works off farm job 😊
I have a 468 I had to put baby powder on the rubber roll for the first 4 to 5 rolls of net wrap to keep from wrapping I use 3.5 wrapping on corn stalks
We keep the tractor running 520 while dumping the bale
Haven’t seen video if u picking your own corn . U said u going combine that corn has that came out yet
Cool you have a lot of bedding for the year ahead.
Otto KIlcher has a channel. Check his video Bowling with Bales.
I do 3.5 on corn fodder I run a 568
Like my new T shirt thanks
How farms work mentioned 3 wraps
That's a good example they sure do wrap a lot of fodder bails.
How did the rental field do?
I would not use the gate to stop the bale you will bend your gate or your cylinders. I don’t know if it makes a difference but I do throttle down when I let a bale out on hill sides
Did you mount a fire extinguisher on that baler? If you didn't I would.
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Dry dry corn stocks are very hard to bale.Your doing very well at it. Some farmers put a fire extinguisher on thier baler. Day stocks wlli start on 🔥 sometimes, Just saying. Thanks 😊.
We put 3 rapes on our corn stock bale but we have a new holland round baler.
@24:20 Owen you should get rid of that ugly green hoodie and replace it with a Gierok Farm hoodie. Or one that has a blue Lion on it! LOL
Where did the curly hair come from
We make 72 inch bales
❤😊 EXTRA WRAP IS NEEDED FOR DRY STALKS !!! WE HAVE A NEW HOLLAND ROUND BALER WE LEAVE IT RUN !!! I WAS DOING THE BACK UP TO THE FLAT OR DRIVE DOWN TO THE FLAT ❤😊 WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU ❤😊
❤😊 THANKS MOM FOR HELPING ❤😊
520 pto speed
Why back up to dump? I have never seen another farmer do this. Sees strange. My Uncle farms in SE Ohio on hillsides that are steep and never had a bale to roll down hill.
I hate to tell you guys this. I think the more you use this round bailer the less you will like bailing small squares. Don't get me wrong. I enjoy watching you make them. I just hated to do it. For me that was the worst job on the farm. Just my opinion I suffered with hay fever and got no sympathy.
John Deere never really made good bailers.
The 14T was an excellent one. That is the only one I know.
i know this corn stalks will flat eat belts and bearings out of a baler few guys i know baled corn stalks and vowed to never bale them again