Hi Folks, just finished a carbon copy of this. i'm really pleased with the results; didn't have a clue before i saw this. Gives me a bit of confidence going forward..... CHEERS
I was the same,a year on since i made my first comment on this,ive made various hills for my layout,they are not by any means perfect,but i enjoy making them.It trully is a great how to video.
I have to complement you . For years I've been reading the hobby magazines.Each one is more complicated and therefore more expensive than the last one.Frankly it gets very discouraging Who has a 20 foot x 36 foot room ?. You on the other hand, have simplified a lot of the details and taken it back to the basics .I thank you.
Thanks Bill that's our aim. The hobby magazines are only interested in layouts that cost a fortune and/or took ten years to build. They are interested in perfection only, not fun or enjoyment, and they really only discourage newcomers from getting involved, as the perceived costs and required skill levels are too high.
When you see that Rod Stewart has a gigantic layout with two full time "assistants" to "assist" him. Then you see that the latest "star" of the magazine is a retired commercial artist. Who is extremely talented to be sure. I just hear them sniggerin' at the efforts of Harry Bagocrumpets the lorry driver with 4 kids and 4 square feet of shelf out in the unheated shed This all takes a lot of the wind out of your sails. But dammit it's MY choo choo and I'll run it any way that I want to!! Harrrummpphhhh!!
You put it so well, Railway modeller and esp Model Rail are not for he man with 30 year old locos, a small unheated shed and no money, and yet he enjoys himself and has fun. Take a look at Barrie Davies videos on you tube for further inspiration.
Thank You. The American mags Model Railroader and Railroad Model Craftsman have had a complete change in staff and direction recently. The main topics seem to be huge layouts and computer control. I don't have the room and I have no interest in any more computers in my life. I've let one subscription expire and the other doesn't look good for them either I have some old Athearn units that back to the early 70's.
There is a small kick back here against DCC, we have a new free model mag which is more open minded and they have given space to people who question why DCC is so good, esp given the price. ( We have featured three times in the pages) . But the mainstream is perfection layouts and DCC obsessed , I even saw an article the other day about how to get started and it only mentioned DCC!
@@BudgetModelRailways she is so-so. A couple more hospitalizations in the last month, and she's backing-out & falling quite a bit; I've caught her a few times...it's getting very scary. *Thank You* for asking! 😊💜
At the beginning I was doubtful that this would turn out well but your method of quick and simple once again produced a very acceptable model for very little money, Budget Model Railways you've done it again!
I had never thought of building hills as separate modules! Brilliant. I always have in the past made a mess by doing them in-situ! I will take your approach on my current 009 project! Thanks for the idea.
Give the PVA about 10 minutes to dry before sticking it together, saves at least 50% drying time 😸 cement & sand instead of plaster, rock solid hardshell, just paint it on. Nice trick with the tea strainer 👍
Have you tried hanging basket liner for grass? You peel it in half (so you get a fluffy surface and double the liner!) and then you tease the fibres out. Then you spray it green and voila!, you have cheap (£4 for over a metre squared) and really good looking grass! The one I use and recommend by other modellers is Gardman Easy-Liner. Hope this is helpful
Brilliant idea, just started building a layout with my two kids and this channel is invaluable! This hill is a great idea as our layout has to be moved out of the way and stored up right so detachable hills are ideal. Started making our first today following this video, fingers crossed!
A trick for stopping the leggo rock mold from sticking is to have a small container of talc and dip it in, bang off the excess then the wet filler is less likely to stick to it. Reapply as necessary. Watching lots of your vids in one sitting and they look good.
I am a recent convert to your channel and I absolutely love it and I've binged my way through so much, both you and Douglas are excellent and explain things in a way I can understand. What id like to know is what trees you buy, I cannot for the life of me find cheap Chinese trees.
Hi, many thanks for your support, much appreciated. I get them from eBay, just search model railways as a general search and there will be quite a few companies listing them. Mostly they are buy it now which is still cheap but sometimes they list them as an auction and it's usually possible to get them cheaper still
Oh and a trick that was suggested to me at the recent train show in Littlehampton is to use a half-decent electric fly swatter with a teas strainer as much cheaper than the £50 static grass efforts (I consider that £5 is an expensive indulgence!). Best, jkhn
Thanks Al. .90p is a result. Cheap filler, paints and glue work just as well as the very expensive model products. I saw one guy spend £25 on rock and water products to end up with pretty much the same look as my pond which cost me £3!
Hi John. We made big hills this way on our exhibition layout, it's been to four shows, stored in two different places and moved around lots, and the hills are fine. People tend to over engineer hills and raised areas, this way is cheap, simple and quick, and lots of messy fun! Thanks for watching
Anyone else fascinated trying to read the news headlines? But seriously this is excellent and what I think modeling (art) should be rather than buying very expensive scenery.
Hi, I've really enjoyed watching your videos they have been a great inspiration. I am at the moment in Australia visiting my family. I am in the process of making the hill for my grandsons model train, but I am wondering what paint you use for the dry paint process. Hope you can help me Kind regards Janet
Interesting. For my hills I make up some water pva mix and then scrunch up newspaper, soak it in the mix and then build the hill like that. Also have you seen the DIY & Digital YT channel? He does a series on what he can find at the dollar store which he can use on his railway
a great looking hill I like your idea of making things as cheap as possible have you thought of using wall paper paste to stick your cardboard & newspaper in stead of pva?
Hi, yes we did think about wall paper paste but didn't have any to hand, it would work just as well, and cheaply. Hopefully our projects still look good and don't look budget priced ?
That was great, thank you for sharing. I have an O gauge 1945 Lionel train set , was wondering how I would measure out a hill like that for "O" Gauge.. Cheers
Looks like a very good hill. I use a very similar method for my hills except I use off cuts of old chicken wire (from various fencing projects) and newspaper stops mixed with some very cheap wall paper paste.
Hi Luke. Anything left over is always a bonus, it's where the roofing felt we use as bassist mat came from. I think wall paper paste would make a very cheap and effective alternative, thanks for the idea.
Nice, thanks. Two points: Have you ever used the old flour&water method than pva? Secondly, I enjoyed this, even though I was hoping that it might have been a 'how to model tracks on slopes' video. My thinking being that a gentle spiral could give the appearance of a long branch working in a limited area . . .
Very educating video, thanks so much. You mention in the end, something about trees that you get from China. Do you have a link to a Web page to order from perhaps? best regards, Kim from Denmark
Hi, thanks. There are quite a few sites on eBay where you can get them direct from China if that's any help. Nice to hear from Denmark, I've seen some great layouts of Danish railways.
I have bit of a question, is it possible to use foam board as the base of a layout or is it better to use a wood board? I am about to start my own n scale railroad so anything you might suggest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Depends on how big it is, and if you need to move it. Foam board is lighter but needs some ply support, or take a look at our various videos on cardboard base boards?
Hi just wondering if you have a shopping list compilation video of products and tools you have used continuously through out your projects .. ? .. sooo i could go and stock up from said locations .. lol cheers fab vids .. mr novice here...
Hi, that's a good idea, we will have to see if we can find time to do that. Mostly its pound land and DIY shops. We were novices ourselves just four years ago and have learnt from trial and error and enjoyed sharing ideas.
Hi Folks, just finished a carbon copy of this. i'm really pleased with the results; didn't have a clue before i saw this. Gives me a bit of confidence going forward..... CHEERS
Hi Chris, glad we could help!
I was the same,a year on since i made my first comment on this,ive made various hills for my layout,they are not by any means perfect,but i enjoy making them.It trully is a great how to video.
"Today's news is tomorrow's model railway hill" great vid, was looking at expensive pre moulded scenery but will definitely give this a go instead.
I have to complement you . For years I've been reading the hobby magazines.Each one is more complicated and therefore more expensive than the last one.Frankly it gets very discouraging Who has a 20 foot x 36 foot room ?. You on the other hand, have simplified a lot of the details and taken it back to the basics .I thank you.
Thanks Bill that's our aim. The hobby magazines are only interested in layouts that cost a fortune and/or took ten years to build. They are interested in perfection only, not fun or enjoyment, and they really only discourage newcomers from getting involved, as the perceived costs and required skill levels are too high.
When you see that Rod Stewart has a gigantic layout with two full time "assistants" to "assist" him. Then you see that the latest "star" of the magazine is a retired commercial artist. Who is extremely talented to be sure. I just hear them sniggerin' at the efforts of Harry Bagocrumpets the lorry driver with 4 kids and 4 square feet of shelf out in the unheated shed This all takes a lot of the wind out of your sails. But dammit it's MY choo choo and I'll run it any way that I want to!! Harrrummpphhhh!!
You put it so well, Railway modeller and esp Model Rail are not for he man with 30 year old locos, a small unheated shed and no money, and yet he enjoys himself and has fun. Take a look at Barrie Davies videos on you tube for further inspiration.
Thank You. The American mags Model Railroader and Railroad Model Craftsman have had a complete change in staff and direction recently. The main topics seem to be huge layouts and computer control. I don't have the room and I have no interest in any more computers in my life. I've let one subscription expire and the other doesn't look good for them either I have some old Athearn units that back to the early 70's.
There is a small kick back here against DCC, we have a new free model mag which is more open minded and they have given space to people who question why DCC is so good, esp given the price. ( We have featured three times in the pages) . But the mainstream is perfection layouts and DCC obsessed , I even saw an article the other day about how to get started and it only mentioned DCC!
We're budget, so we do it cheap! I love these videos. Great tips.
We did paper mache modelling in school years ago so old tricks are never forgotten...flour and water and old newspaper..
I use pva or wall paper paste but yes still the same idea, and it's cheap
Many thanks I will definitely do it this way on my first ever layout.
It's been delightful to watch you and your son grow together over these last few years. 😊💜
That's very kind thanks. He is 19 now and at University but we still get to do projects together
Ps, how is your good lady other half
@@BudgetModelRailways she is so-so. A couple more hospitalizations in the last month, and she's backing-out & falling quite a bit; I've caught her a few times...it's getting very scary. *Thank You* for asking! 😊💜
Hello, I have a litle bit of a suggestion for you, use crumpled aluminum foil to make the edges of the rock, it works very well.
Hi Carlos, thanks for the tip, I have seen it mentioned before and it's on my must try it out list!
At the beginning I was doubtful that this would turn out well but your method of quick and simple once again produced a very acceptable model for very little money, Budget Model Railways you've done it again!
Thanks
I had never thought of building hills as separate modules! Brilliant. I always have in the past made a mess by doing them in-situ! I will take your approach on my current 009 project! Thanks for the idea.
Happy to help, thanks for watching and commenting
Give the PVA about 10 minutes to dry before sticking it together, saves at least 50% drying time 😸 cement & sand instead of plaster, rock solid hardshell, just paint it on. Nice trick with the tea strainer 👍
Have you tried hanging basket liner for grass? You peel it in half (so you get a fluffy surface and double the liner!) and then you tease the fibres out. Then you spray it green and voila!, you have cheap (£4 for over a metre squared) and really good looking grass! The one I use and recommend by other modellers is Gardman Easy-Liner. Hope this is helpful
Brilliant idea, just started building a layout with my two kids and this channel is invaluable! This hill is a great idea as our layout has to be moved out of the way and stored up right so detachable hills are ideal. Started making our first today following this video, fingers crossed!
Im sure it will look great, the main thing is to just have fun
A trick for stopping the leggo rock mold from sticking is to have a small container of talc and dip it in, bang off the excess then the wet filler is less likely to stick to it. Reapply as necessary.
Watching lots of your vids in one sitting and they look good.
Thanks for watching and supporting, there is quite a lot of them now ! Another due out tonight.
some absolute UA-cam classic tunes going, your production value has come a very long way. keep up the good work!
Currently trying this out! So far so good! Just waiting for the paint to dry!
That was a brilliant tutorial.. Excellent stuff.. Thank you for making these vids..
Happy to help, thanks for watching
Just to say A JOB WELL DONE, very impressive and well worth the EFFORT
Thanks , very kind. It is a bit time consuming buts it's cheap and effective.
Thanks for the hints I'm just half way through making mine and all good so far
I am a recent convert to your channel and I absolutely love it and I've binged my way through so much, both you and Douglas are excellent and explain things in a way I can understand.
What id like to know is what trees you buy, I cannot for the life of me find cheap Chinese trees.
Hi, many thanks for your support, much appreciated. I get them from eBay, just search model railways as a general search and there will be quite a few companies listing them. Mostly they are buy it now which is still cheap but sometimes they list them as an auction and it's usually possible to get them cheaper still
Well helpful in just starting a small scrapyard layout and wanted some Hill effect at end 😀
Glad we could help
Oh and a trick that was suggested to me at the recent train show in Littlehampton is to use a half-decent electric fly swatter with a teas strainer as much cheaper than the £50 static grass efforts (I consider that £5 is an expensive indulgence!).
Best, jkhn
There are lots of UA-cam videos on the conversion of low-cost, high-voltage fly swatters to such static grass applicators.
This looks really good, I will give it a go for the tunnel on my layout. My Poundland has everything for 90p which is even better!
Thanks
Al.
Thanks Al. .90p is a result. Cheap filler, paints and glue work just as well as the very expensive model products. I saw one guy spend £25 on rock and water products to end up with pretty much the same look as my pond which cost me £3!
Good ideas
foam is faster and quicker to put ground cover on glue water dish soap Works
Thanks for making this video. I was going to make a much more complicated and expensive job of my hill.
Hi John. We made big hills this way on our exhibition layout, it's been to four shows, stored in two different places and moved around lots, and the hills are fine. People tend to over engineer hills and raised areas, this way is cheap, simple and quick, and lots of messy fun! Thanks for watching
One of the most informative and useful vids I`ve seen and I will definitely be using this method on my forthcoming layout.
Thanks, glad it was useful, they got a lot of interest when we exhibited at a recent exhibition.
Great how to video , anything to keep costs down . Thank you for sharing .......Peter
Thanks Peter.
Great video, puts Woodland Scenics out of the running, hehe, fantastic cheers.
Fantastic tutorial that can be made in any shape. Thanks
nicely done on that hill thank you for pointing me in this direction I got many more to watch but fab job guys.
So clever; last time I buy manufactured products! And much more enjoyable to do with a more realistic result, in my view - thanks for sharing.
Thanks that's very kind
brilliant exactly what i was looking for thanks BMR
This is brilliant - going to use this method on my N scale project to make some hills!
Thanks it works really well and is cheaper and lighter than conventional methods, it's also great messy fun!
Another cheap option i use, is Wilkinsons sample paints, 99p a pot, dozens of range of colours, and can mix paint also, thanks for sharing
Thanks for the heads up.
Anyone else fascinated trying to read the news headlines? But seriously this is excellent and what I think modeling (art) should be rather than buying very expensive scenery.
Lol. We found some 1970s newspapers under a carpet in a house once, spent ages reading them
It's even cheaper if you use wall paper paste instead of PVA. Same results just cheaper. Regards Michael
Yes we did think about that. Mind you PVA is cheap enough
This is helpful and I will consider this soon :)
Thanks im thinking of making a model battlefield
Fantastic video. Really helpful. Many thanks!
Another great video well done chaps!
Hi, I've really enjoyed watching your videos they have been a great inspiration. I am at the moment in Australia visiting my family. I am in the process of making the hill for my grandsons model train, but I am wondering what paint you use for the dry paint process. Hope you can help me
Kind regards Janet
Just cheap emulsion tester pots for both the rock colour and the dry brushing. Black wash is just cheap kids poster paint. Have fun
Thank you for your prompt reply.
Some excellent, simple ideas. Keep 'em coming !!! Well done !
Many thanks
Many thanks for your support.
Many thanks for your support.
Oh So many Thanks there! :-)
Very nice, just goes to show what can be achieved without spending lots of money...Simon
Hi Simon, thanks. It's what we are all about. Mike
Very effective, I'll give it a go. I like the idea of making the scenery away from the layout.
Thanks John. It saves covering your layout in crap from various building projects.
Thanks, I am going to try this.
Enjoyed the video very much .Take care
Thanks
Interesting. For my hills I make up some water pva mix and then scrunch up newspaper, soak it in the mix and then build the hill like that. Also have you seen the DIY & Digital YT channel? He does a series on what he can find at the dollar store which he can use on his railway
a great looking hill I like your idea of making things as cheap as possible have you thought of using wall paper paste to stick your cardboard & newspaper in stead of pva?
Hi, yes we did think about wall paper paste but didn't have any to hand, it would work just as well, and cheaply. Hopefully our projects still look good and don't look budget priced ?
hi no your projects look fine I think a lot more modellers are doing the same making items and finding things to use that are cheaper I know I am
that's looks outstanding!!
That's very kind, thanks.
That was great, thank you for sharing. I have an O gauge 1945 Lionel train set , was wondering how I would measure out a hill like that for "O" Gauge.. Cheers
Using this method, how do you mount the trees?? Great video :) :)
Punch a small hole in the hill and glue it in
Thank you very much
Glad we could help
Liking the channel I too try and do stuff on a budget and aim for a top result still ,hope to help others too on my channel 👍🏻👍🏻
Whats your channel called please and I take a look
Budget Model Railways “Peaks 47” 👍🏻
Looks like a very good hill. I use a very similar method for my hills except I use off cuts of old chicken wire (from various fencing projects) and newspaper stops mixed with some very cheap wall paper paste.
Hi Luke. Anything left over is always a bonus, it's where the roofing felt we use as bassist mat came from. I think wall paper paste would make a very cheap and effective alternative, thanks for the idea.
Hi Luke, send us a picture of your hill and we can put it in the newsletter?
I will do as soon as possible.
From the beginning of the video, I wonder how I can build the cardboard base for the hill first?
Nice, thanks. Two points:
Have you ever used the old flour&water method than pva?
Secondly, I enjoyed this, even though I was hoping that it might have been a 'how to model tracks on slopes' video.
My thinking being that a gentle spiral could give the appearance of a long branch working in a limited area . . .
We have built an incline on our very first layout. I guess any suitable glue will work, will paper paste should be good
@@BudgetModelRailways thanks, I'll look for that first video. Best! John
Yes . A mouse liked it a lot and destroyed the scenery for its nest.
I'm guessing one could utilize a series of smaller hills like these to make uneven terrain?
Should paper mache it down to the board to make it look like it's more part of the board
Hi Guy, yes that would give you a better look
Superb, thanks..👍🏻.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Its the next Budget Model Railway layout; Poundland Sidings
Again simplicity is the key...
Very educating video, thanks so much. You mention in the end, something about trees that you get from China. Do you have a link to a Web page to order from perhaps? best regards, Kim from Denmark
Hi. If you search just for model railways on eBay you should find them ok.
Hi, thanks. There are quite a few sites on eBay where you can get them direct from China if that's any help. Nice to hear from Denmark, I've seen some great layouts of Danish railways.
Wonderful great
Thanks
25 people apparently couldn't find enough old papers.
Excellent,lol!
Can Douglas come to the US and work on my layout?
I have bit of a question, is it possible to use foam board as the base of a layout or is it better to use a wood board? I am about to start my own n scale railroad so anything you might suggest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Depends on how big it is, and if you need to move it. Foam board is lighter but needs some ply support, or take a look at our various videos on cardboard base boards?
Hi just wondering if you have a shopping list compilation video of products and tools you have used continuously through out your projects .. ? .. sooo i could go and stock up from said locations .. lol cheers fab vids .. mr novice here...
Hi, that's a good idea, we will have to see if we can find time to do that. Mostly its pound land and DIY shops. We were novices ourselves just four years ago and have learnt from trial and error and enjoyed sharing ideas.
This is great because if you use wet paper mache to fill the voids it can end up going smelly
nice
Me reading the headlines on the newspapers while they are being scrunched up:
Lol
very good!
What was the grass stuff that you shook on called?
Lots of different trade names, generally called scatter I beleive
how do you get an area flat to place a light house
Just build a platform the right size into the cardboard formers
What sort of black paint is that? Thanks.
Any acrylic or model paint will do, even emulsion or poster paint
Thank you very much for the reply.Regards,Michael.
Exceptional demonstration so easy to follow and the result is amazing🤙
Thanks
What is the name of this song?
can u put a list of stuth tat we need to make this
newspaper
pva glue
grass scatter
polyfiller
green paint
brown paint
cream paint
Grey Paint
do I see lego train stuff in the background?
Doug was into Lego before model railways
@@BudgetModelRailways I was into it too.
Brilliant tutorial . Could do without the awful , repetitive ' music ! '
Thanks, I guess music is a matter of personal taste , I'm a heavy metal fan and know that won't suit everyone.
Budget Model Railways - Here Hear 🎶👂 i'd love to blast 'em 🔊 with some early Punk . . . but i fear that would NEVER Do ❗
I think the more traditional modeller might not appreciate sham69 or perhaps Saxon?!