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Collective Soul: What Happened To the Band Behind 'Shine', 'December' & 'The World I Know?'
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- The history of the band Collective Soul.
0:00 - Introduction/Early Years
2:44 - Birth of Collective Soul/Shine
4:35 - Signing to Atlantic/First album
7:27- Self Titled Album
10:06 - Legal Problems
11:07 - Later Years
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Collective Soul is a band I’ve always always associated with Hootie and the Blowfish and Matchbox Twenty.. All three bands had a number of hits in the 90’s but they never got much respect. Coupled with matchbox twenty, collective soul was sometimes dubbed as a faceless band -a group wiith a bunch of hits. People knew the songs, but couldn’t pick the band members out of a lineup.
Adored by radio, hated by critics Collective Soul would be one of the most successful bands to emerge out of the mid to late 90’s. I want to thank Trevor for suggesting this story. I actually ran into him at work one day and he said Sidd when are you gonna do collective soul, so here it is Trevor. Enjoy.
Early Years
The band’s history begins with the Roland brothers Ed and his younger sibling Dean. Growing up in Stockbridge Georgia, an atlanta suburb, their father was a baptist preacher and the head of the local youth choir. They grew up in a strict conservative household only being allowed to listen to christian humns, elvis and jerry lee lewis. Their father majored in music in college and got involved in some record burnings too before he became the head pastor of the biggest church in town. The boys sundays mostly revolved around the church going to sermon in the morning and then returning in the evening for choir. They’d spend their saturday nights with their mother who played piano and their father rehearsing hymns for the following day’s service.
Ed would tell the LA Times about Stockbrige’s music scene revealing It’s a small place, only about 20,000 people--There’s nowhere to play there, but it’s close enough to Atlanta, which is really a cool place. The music scene is very diverse. There’s the R&B; scene, the Indigo Girls folk scene and a rock scene. Being from Georgia you would expect Roland to have been influencedby the likes of Molly Hatchet and lynyrd skynyrd, but he would admit to earofnewt that his influences weren’t southern rock bands, but california rock - fleetwood mac and the eagles. He’d cite other influences like elton john as well.
Both brothers soon got into guitar playing and following high school Ed moved to Boston to attend the Berklee School of Music and study guitar.. The experience was a culture shock for Ed. He got exposure to artists he had never previously heard of and credited jamming with professional musicians as making him a better guitar player and expanding his musical horizons.
It was after a year he’d return home landing a job at a local 24 track recording studio called Reel 2 Reel which was owned by Will Turpin’s father. It was now the 80’s and he was also playing with two local musicians Shane Evans and Ross Childress in the local act Marching Two Step. The idea for Ed was to get a major recording contract and it was a long time coming. He’d spend nearly 12 years chasing that dream playing clubs in the southeast and recording ideas but nothing seemed to get the attention of record labels.
Marching two step’s time came to an end and Ed was about to give up on his dream of being in a successful band. It was now january of 1993, but the band’s manager pushed him to try his hand at getting a publishing deal whereby he could write songs for other people or score film and television. He’d spend the next 3-4 months coming up with a demo tape. But some of those songs were up to five years old.
Roland would toy around with his own musical ideas while he was off work in the recording studio. Meanwhile, during the day he’d producing, mixing, and engineering local Atlanta artists.
Roland soon had a demo, 90% of which he created himself. The demo would consist of nearly a dozen songs and one of the last songs written would be called Shine. Roland would remark how the song was considerably longer than anything else on the demo.
That demo would end up being Collective Soul’
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@@rnrtruestories dude you still have a regular crappy job after making all these videos? Everyone thinks that you’re very well paid by UA-cam for all your excellent work… I should’ve thought you were really doing this full-time… Are you anywhere close to getting there yet? And what kind of work do you do otherwise?
Love your channel but you didn't do enough jounalistic digging on this one... Ed Rolands wife cheated on him with original lead guitar player Ross Childress...kicked him out of the band, broke up his marriage..there used to be video online of him bad mouthing him at a show. Thats the kind of hot topic issue thats should be brought up with this kind of band. Rock on! Keep up the good work!
@@mkultra5752 bruce Dickinson’s wife did the same thing with nikki sixx. Bruce, being the English gentleman, he is, quietly divorced her, and did not shame her publicly as much as she deserved it, and hurt him.
Saw them in February of this past year at a small venue in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. Everyone in the band is so nice, especially Ed. Their tour bus was parked right outside the venue so you can see the band and crew walk from their bus into the venue and vice versa. I like to show up to venues extremely early, to make sure I get a spot at the rail and to get a chance to meet the band. Doors didn’t open till 6 but Ed saw me and another dude waiting outside since before 1:30pm and he came right up to us and introduced himself to us and talked with us for a bit and took pictures with us. I did meet and greet with the band before the show and Ed told the band how I had been waiting outside since early afternoon. Then they proceeded to rock the small venue as best as they could. It was an AMAZING show! One I’ll never forget!😁✌🏼😎
We got to meet them a few years ago when they were in my town, and we waited by the buses for a short while before someone noticed us. Within minutes we were taking pics and chatting about music and such. Amazing, down to Earth guys with a great body of music to enjoy.
@@DeathMetalDerf that was my thought too. So down to earth and engaged with fans. While a bunch of people were waiting in line about half an hour before doors opened, or before they let in VIP ticket holders, they went up to all of us in line and talked with us, took pictures, etc. They loved playing at the venue there, Culture Room if anybody wants to look it up. It’s tiny, and they loved playing there because it was way more intimate, closer to the crowd. Even after the show, they stayed behind to sign stuff for fans and take more pictures and went to a bar right next to the venue and drank with fans. Show was 10/10, dudes were 10/10, and 100% I would go see them again.
That sounds like a blast!! Hopefully we'll get a chance to see them again sometime soon.
@@DeathMetalDerf
I believe they are going to tour with Hootie And The Blowfish next year, so that chance is more than certain!
Cool story
What Happened to Collective Soul? - Nothing. Still going strong, putting out great music and touring almost non-stop. Incredible band.
They haven't been good since they fired Ross Childress
@@dr.loomis4221 Not true! Listen to Contagious, What I Can Give You, or Right As Rain. Terrific songs.
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They couldn’t keep Ross around after what he did to Ed. Ed is a very kind and gentle man and he did not deserve to get stabbed in the back the way he did.
What happened between them? I still enjoy them and we saw them at Summerfest this past July and they were great! I love a band that finishes their show with, "Thank you and God bless." Soul Asylum were on before them and were also very good.@@sjd1446
@@dr.loomis4221I agree, but I thought that Ross quit?
With Ross, they were one of my top favorite bands
they had 7 #1 singles you can't deny that.
So did the Osmonds.
@@WesleyGravolet lmao 🐹
@@WesleyGravolet🤘🤣🤘
@@WesleyGravoletDid you ever know that you’re my hero? 🌬️🪽
I’ll be laughing about that comment all day. Merci beaucoup.
@@genghis_connie ❤️
Dude, Collective Soul is awesome and I don't care what any damn person says! That Dosage album was spectacular
Damn Skippy
My favorite of theirs
Still have their drumsticks from Spring fest in Downtown Mobile ,Al about 20 years ago. Still listen to them often.
I am baffled by how underrated that album is! I have never stopped loving it!
One of my favorite bands.
I'm 72, grew up loving 60's & 70's rock n' roll. When Collective Soul came on to the scene in the 90's I was blown away....What? Straight forward rock and roll in the 90's?
Heavy is such a great track as well, always crank it daily. Always enjoyed Collective Soul
Most underrated band of all time.
agreed
King's X, holding on line 1...
Lol
You’ve never heard of Biffy Clyro then
Yes they are very underrated but I think the title of most underrated band goes to Jimmy Eat World
One of my favourite bands of all time. I didn't know they went through all that trouble with their former manager.
Their music has helped me through a lot of tough times, and good times too. They deserve all the good that shines down on them
Shine was the reason I finally got into playing guitar. Have always loved them and Ed has been one of the two biggest influences on me, musically. I've seen them multiple times, and the first was the most special. I had just moved to the city and was unable to get a ticket as it was sold out. I went to their autograph signing to at least get my Dosage CD signed. In doing so, and talking with the band, Will asked me if I was going to be at the show. I said unfortunately not and explained why. He asked for my name and left two tickets for me at the door. It was so surreal and an amazing experience. It was also my first"real" concert given I had just moved here from a small town. Since then, I've seen them five more times, met them two additional times during that, and have one of my acoustic guitars signed by the band. Mostly worn off now, but it's the memory that matters most.
When I was learning guitar in the mid 90s, Collective Soul was a huge inspiration to me also… he was definitely an underrated riff writer, his riffs were so fun to learn and play….
Thank you for doing a video on them. They are such an underrated masterpiece ensemble. I remember my mom introducing me to them in 1995 when I was 9. She was a MASSIVE fan of theirs. I played her favorite song of theirs “The World I Know” on her deathbed 4 years ago from lung/breast cancer. My hands down favorite (and makes me weep because it’s so gorgeous) is “Needs”
Sorry to hear about your Mom.
🙏RIP🙏
“Needs” is awesome!!!
I was in my mid-thirties by the time Collective Soul came along, and they were a breath of fresh air.
One of the few bands worth listening to at the time.
Dosage is such an underrated album. There's not one weak song on that album!
I used to listen to the Dosage album start to finish when I was in my 20s working in a warehouse. One of the few discs I didnt have to take out and change in the primitive times we lived before MP3 players!
I completely agree! I haven't stopped listening to it since it's release.
You're right! Dosage is a sparling modern rock record.
I remember working at a record store when that album came out and this customer insisted it was pronounced ‘doh-sauge’
That's how I feel about the first album (the blue one). I legit like every song on the album. Rare. Dosage was good but not as good as the first imo.
Right up there with SOAD Toxicity, Steal this album, and Dr. Dre chronic 2001. Very rare to have albums where *every* song is good.
I love collective soul they are awesome still are I want to see them live ❤
Collective Soul is/was a great band. Have a lot of memories of their music growing up as a kid in the late 90s. All four of their albums they released in the 90s were awesome.
Solid video. I saw them live reluctantly about 5 years ago and once they were done with their set, I became a huge fan. Solid band and tons of hit songs.
They are still putting out great music today. Never understood why they aren’t more popular.
I really liked a few of their singles back in the 90's (when I was in my 20's) but it wasn't until 2014 that I checked out some of their songs that didn't get radio play. I was checking out a new living room amplifier. It was the first time I had ever spent serious $$ on an amp and I was pretty impressed by how big/clean power changed the sound of my system. A friend of mine came over that day and brought some music along...he handed me the "Dosage" CD...and that was it. It was a head smacker..."how did I miss out on this band for my entire adult life?" Dosage blew me away...cool sound, cool tunes and superb recordings. In the next few weeks, I owned all Collective Soul albums. Another unique gem from the South. They are one of my favorites to this day.
I have a special place in my heart for Collective Soul because they headlined the first rock concert I ever attended. I also distinctly remember being genuinely excited each time their song "Where the River Flows" came on my local station 94 FM (now Rock 94).
I'm a huge fan of their three albums from the 1990s. Collective Soul (1995), Disciplined Breakdown and Dosage are their peak IMO.
they never even left the launch pad, never mind peaking.
Me too 👌
@@megaflux7144All you have to do is watch this video to know that what you said is complete nonsense.
But hater's gonna hate...
@@thedude4672 yea.. they had album of the year.. outsold EVERY other musician.. changed the landscape of music... oh wait they did NONE of that.
Two of my favourite bands of that time were Collective Soul and Pearl Jam. Two very different bands that appealed to a similar audience.
Mine too still today😁
This band is amazing!! I met Ed in 2009, but my health was extremely poor during that time. It was worth leaving the house to see him.
😢sorry to hear about that bro 🤘🤘
@@davidcurry332 Thank you David! I appreciate it. I had no appetite and lost a lot of weight (prostate issues). The catheter was complete hell.
"The World I Know" came out when I was in high school, and to this day is one of my favorite songs. It spoke to me then, and still does. I love the balance between the 12 string acoustic, electric guitar, violins and cellos, with Ed's rich, dynamic vocals-it's absolutely perfect. Collective Soul helped shape me during my formative years in the mid-late 90's more than most. I also got to see a small private show by Collective Soul in 2015 at a company event in the Grand America Hotel in SLC, Utah (one of our employees is a close friend of Ed's). All the comments about Ed and his bandmates being kind and down to earth are absolutely true. They could have easily played a handful of songs and been on their way-but instead, they played every single hit and then some with the same energy they would for a sold out stadium. They even invited one of my co-workers up on stage to play drums for one of their songs, and another co-worker yelled out that he "knew how to play cowbell," so they brought him up and gave him something to hit like a cowbell for the entire song. We need more people in the industry like these guys.
Their song "Why, Part 2" is one of my all-time favorites. Brings back so many college memories.
Yeah that seems to be something of a forgotten track…really dig it though!
Yeah, that one and Precious Declaration are all but forgotten gems from them.
They might be the most underrated good band of all time. Idk what that list would look like, but they have to be on it.
I was late to the Collective Soul world but have loved exploring their discography. Great songs and a solid sound. Glad I revisited them!
I DIG THIS BAND!! I don't care what any critic says.
Just went to see them yesterday in Queenstown NZ, bloody epic.
One of the best live bands I’ve seen
I saw them play here where I am last September. During the song December, he came out into the crowd and my Wife ended up hugging him during the song lol It was a fantastic show. Loved every minute of it. Its a band that nobody realizes that they know a lot of their songs
It(first album) was a breath of fresh air in a flood of grunge and despair. It was also great!
Their self titled album is one of the best to come from the 90’s. Every song is just amazing.
Great concert, love Collective Soul as a teenager . Have every one of their albums
Always enjoyed Collective soul. Their selftitled album is timeless. Never got a chance to see em live unfortunately.
Great video my man. Appreciate your work!
🤘🔥🤘
Thanks!
They're still active and still touring, so you might stll get a chance to see them live.
@@bangslamwham88 I hope so! One of the few bands on my list from the 90s I still want to see.
Cheers! 🍻🤘
They're just so good live. Don't miss them next time you get a chance!
Saw them live in 1998. I've seen many bands live... Metallica, Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden, Bob Dylan, etc.
Seeing CS live in 1998 is one of my top 3 favorite lives shows of all time
I have seen them 3 times in the last two years and they are still awesome, and probably the best live band still touring.
Collective Soul rocks. I’ve been a fan since the 90’s. They’re still going strong.
Me too. But I think I don't know their new sound.
Always loved these guys. Had the opportunity to see them live in Akron, Ohio back in the early 2000s,, still one of my favorite concert memories.
❤
I just love their records and I saw them twice, amazing shows, thanks for bringing that band.
Regards from Argentina
I've loved this band for so long! Collective Soul used to be my whole world and, they still remain one of the most listened to and most rehearsed bands on guitar and bass. I seriously hope I get to see them once before they hang it up for good.
One of the best live bands I've ever seen. I love all of their records, Vibrating (2022) is one of my favorites. Hope to see them on the road again soon.
Talked to Ed in person along w/bassist Joel before a concert in Tempe, Arizona=Great band and awesome songs!
I heard shine on the radio. It was unique. I instantly liked it and started buying Collective Soul cds. They are awesome!!!
I’ve been listening to Collective Soul since the beginning and have all their albums. I wouldn’t call the my favorite band but enjoy the music. AYTA is a great pop rock song!
My parents always listened to collective soul when I was growing up. They were a big band of my childhood. Finally saw them live earlier this year. Awesome show!
I saw them in '99 and '01. Both shows were among the best live shows I have ever seen. Great band!
Saw them a few years back at an outdoor show in Cornwall, Ontario. What a great concert that was!
When I was in college, I first heard the song "run" on my friend's computer. And I immediately fell in love with the band Collective Soul from that moment on. The song "run" had become a kind of "national" song at that time among students, 😆. For me, this band is more than just a work of art, for some reason the lyrics of their songs are very strong and influence people's views depending on their mood. I love you CS... Keep making music...
That's exactly why they went into the rat race of the music industry... So people could feel "things"... They really did want to make a difference 😉👍🤩🎶🎶🎶
Love Collective Soul - saw them years ago at Ohio State University in a small venue. Amazing live performance!
Just saw them a few weeks ago. They were great! So glad they’re still out there doing their thing!
Seen them 7x , seen them last year too.
They're still going strong.
Dosage is my favorite album from them and one of the best albums ever.
Now that's a true fan 😁
Their music still totally works for me.
Still one of the best bands I have seen live. I saw them in Fresno at the Wilson, and they rocked the place.
Collective Soul was of its time . When most alternative rock groups of their era were grim and depressing; it was a novel idea to become the grunge Beatles .
The 1990s were an optimistic time in America with seemingly endless and dazzling hope and possibilities, and in which wholesome and not so family acts could flourish .
Collective Soul was the soundtrack of my teen years .
Couldn't be happier I haven't heard them for 20years
Love these guys. They are still making great music. They just get better and their concerts are the best.
I saw this band 15xs...every show was excellent..
Gave my wife a 50th yr Bday present..meeting the band (current members) backstage preshow..class acts..
Seen them live, right by the Stage so close I could almost touch the band/Ed Roland
Most wonderful concert I’ve ever attended
They're criminally underrated. The band has put out some incredible tracks, many of which were never released as singles. Their library peaked with Dosage, but there are some gems to be found after.
They still put on a solid show and they're so infectiously positive when you see them, it's hard not to walk out of the venue with a smile.
"Up Around the Bend" was the song that made me decide to pickup a guitar, but Collective Soul's first 2 albums were my source material to learn how to play 🥰🥰🥰
SHINE seemed to describe a state of mind when you are having fun and adventure with friends you love.
I saw them play at a bar in Charlotte around the year 2000. They rocked. Great show.
I have seen CS at least a dozen times, they're great live! The energy is undeniable!
Im from New Zealand and collective soul are one of my favorite bands of all time they've got something special in their songs i cant explain the only band wen i heard their songs on the radio that would make me wanna leave work go to the bottle store and drink in my shed until i could drink no more especially on a beautiful sunny day,incredible songs incredible band 😊
When they started their Dosage Tour, first stop I was security for the concert in Milwaukee, Wi. I already bought the CD because I loved the song "Run". And I knew the owner of the theater and got in to see them Free, again because I was security...well one of them. It was GREAT!!
Yeah man 🤩😃
I saw them in New Orleans several years ago and I thought they still sounded great and looked great too! Thank you for this video!
One of the best bands following the Grunge era. They sort of came out at the end of it. They're just a good rock band. Sort of garage like. And have a lot of good songs. And the fact that they're still around after 30 years is amazing. Time tells all!
Amazing how critics didn’t get it. Music comes down to an energy. Their early albums had some aggressive guitars, gritty/vocals with unique tone, and relatable themes. It was different in a good way.
Critic, meh. They have a unique sound and good lyrics. A fun band to see live and still very popular.
They didn't kiss ass - the crowd always loved them but the "industry", anyone getting paid, couldn't abuse them so they didn't promote them but thank God Nick Caris got their song in a movie cuz that sh*t lasts... 👍👍👍😯
Had a chance to see Collective Soul about ten years ago. Great band.
Excellent breakdown on evolution of collective soul
Have always loved this band! Will never change.
About 10 yrs ago I was driving to the store in my truck in Rockford, IL. and for some reason the end chords to "The World I Know" were dancing around in my head. I soon turned on the radio, 93XRT Chicago and those exact end chords were playing. There IS a God!😀
What are the chords???
Top five favorite bands ever. I definitely recommend you see them live. He sounds better now than he used to
We saw Collective Soul a couple years ago with 3 Doors Down and Soul Asylum. They ended their set with the song RUN, which my wife had never heard before. She nearly cried. My wife wanted to initially go because of 3DD, but she left a huge fan of Collective Soul. I already was. Great band, great show.
Funny enough, an old girlfriend of mine used to make fun of me for loving Collective Soul.
One day I emailed (in the early days of email) her a "poem."
She wrote me back and said that it made her cry because the poem was so poignant. That's when I told her that the poem was the lyrics to the CS song, "Run." She felt kind of duped, but became a CS fan after that.
Most underrated band ever still listening to them
Keep on rocking
They have so many catchy songs it's almost unbelievable
Fortunate enough to see CS a few days ago at a winery concert tour in New Zealand absolutely bloody amazing!!!
Totally - saw them in Hamilton a few days later - awesome!!!
I smoked rock in 93' and saw them back in Toronto. Great show.
LOVE CS! Such a great band. Beautiful melodies, personal, thought-provoking lyrics and good energy. They have 4 platinum albums yet always seem overlooked and forgotten. Got to see them live- finally, around 10 years ago. Ed's an awesome frontman and they sounded great. Newest album, Vibrating, is really good and like a long-lost 90's album of theirs.
Thank you 🙇♀️
I watched them live in 2001 at the Sun City Super Bowl in South Africa to a packed house (6000 capacity venue), then saw them again live in 2006 at The Manchester Academy in the UK in front of maybe 400 people...that was surreal...both times they absolutely smashed it though!
One of the most underrated bands of the 90s, I still hear KISW playing their hits and "The world I know" seems so relevant now than it did back in the 90s
Man Collective Soul are one of those bands that hits real close to home for me! The self titled album was the only cassette and only album I had left when I was homeless in '95 for a short time. (still have the cassette I think to this day) Mainly because it was in my Walkman at the time. So that band and album holds so many precious memories of hardship and attempted suicide during that time. I was 20 years old at the time and now I'm 49. God and that album really helped me out of my rut and I'm so very thankful for that! Thanks so much for doing a video on this wonderful, unique and amazing talented band! God Bless!
We're the same age. Their music hits deep for me, too. Very meaningful. Incredible band.
Glad to hear that you are no longer homeless, my friend. God bless you
@@thedude4672 Thanks so much man! And God Bless you as well! 1974?
Their self-title album is one of my favorite albums of all time.
I still jam their cds. They got riffs, man.
Saw them this summer for the first time! Free show at our summer exhibition… thousands of people there. Absolutely amazing! They rocked hard & the sound quality was superb. Fantastic live show!
We saw them at Milwaukee Summerfest this year. Where did you see them?
They have so many hits. The perfect “they sing that song?!” Band. Yes, they do. I’ve seen them 44 times and I have every stub from the past 25 years
Saw them over the summer (2023) in San Diego. Awesome venue. They’ve had their lineup changes over the years but damn, they can still put on a great show.
Agreed 👍🎉🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
Had no idea the critics didn't like them. My college vocal ensemble did several of their songs. We loved them.
Still love Collective Soul. Thanks for the video.
you're welcome.
Just saw them in New Zealand today - very good.
I just got into this band recently!! Thanks for this!!
Welcome!!
Very nicely done! The best band!
Thanks
I saw them in 2014 at the BIG music festival in Kitchener, Ontario. They were GREAT. IT WAS REALLY, Really nice to see them after all that time.
Kitchener Ontario? Is that where Kitchener Leslie is from?
Got to play on stage with them when I was 13 in Las Vegas, life changing.
Everyone has that random band that they love, and mine is Collective Soul. I was in my teens when they were popular and have loved them ever since. Whenever they're in the area I do my best to try and catch a show - they can still rock it. Great pop rock song writing, killer harmonies and catchy hooks. What else do you need?
Love these guys and their songs. My favorites are December and light shine.
my parents used to absolutely rock out to Collective Soul when I was a kid. Its so weird because they were not into any other 90s bands at all. They were all about AC/DC and 80s hair bands, then Collective Soul.
Been my fav band since they started with shine. I’ve seen them a bunch of times. Awesome shows
Collective Soul is the best rock band out of the 90s. Period.
Their Vibrating plays like a Greatest Hits album. So good. They continue to make great music.
The world I know was the first song I ever really connected with as a teenager.
It's good for people going through stuff ~ alone... 👍🎶🤩🙇♀️
Awesome band Awsome musition great to listen to much respect guy's please don't stop