The TRICK To Leading With The Right Shoulder In The Downswing
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The swing thought that changed my game years ago was “right shoulder down, under, and through”. The down part assures that you’re not immediately spinning it out, over the top. The under part helps maintain the right side bend. And, most importantly, the through part gets it driving towards target, and keeps you from bottoming out behind the ball. I rarely “save” videos, but this one is going in the bank. Great stuff, guys.
Can you clarify the down?
@@pmaxerox People that swing the club “over the top” are missing the down part. They immediately spin the right shoulder “over” from the top of the swing, in transition. It almost looks like they’re trying to push the club to the ball. This gets the shaft standing up steep, and results in a very slappy swipe across the ball. The down and under are basically the same move, in a way. Thinking about it this way basically keeps me from reaching impact with level shoulders. You should feel right side bend through impact. This not only allows you to swing from the inside a bit , it also delays the release, and helps stabilize the face. However, just as they pointed out…. Without the through part(rotating towards target), you’ll be left stuck inside, and underneath, having to flip the hands at the ball. It’s a low-point nightmare. He demonstrates this perfectly, as he’s talking about what his problem used to be. This is honestly one of the best videos on UA-cam. They weren’t kidding about that. I just thought of a good way to describe this feeling…. Imagine that your buddy just bet you that you couldn’t sling your club completely through the drywall in your house, from ten feet away, using a golf swing. I promise you that you’ll sling it underneath, put weight into your left side, then apply the brakes with your left leg. You’ll also finish facing the target, with right side bend. I hope this helps you out, man. Let me know…
Whenever I’ve hit it the best I felt on the way down that my right shoulder took the place of my left should at the top. So it feels through the ball as if my shoulder doesn’t dip and then shoots up. It feels level. We all have crazy different feels.
@@shanehicks6461 Yes we do, my friend. Golf is a weird game, for sure. Haha
LOVE that!!
Eric. This is a great video. It works for irons and driver. Granted, my shots are not perfect, but I have vastly improved.
My misses, I have a left bias, some with a pull draw.
I need to work on head staying centered and double check ball position.
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Thanks Stephen! Great to have you here with us!!
Awesome instruction!
Thanks John!
Thanks for all you do!
Happy New Year Eric.
Thanks for an amazing year of tuition! All the best for 2024!
Appreciate it Steve----same to you and yours!
Excellent clinic, it shows clearly how the pros do magic striking move from the top.
Thank you! Hope it helps!
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Thanks :)
Haha good question we'll have to ask him that!
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I love it. Free golf lesson from the dude from jemiroquai. Great tips, thanks lads.
I assume this doesn't work for driver though right?
Thanks :)
Driver will be a bit different due to setup differences (more tilt) and head more back in downswing.
Same idea with the shoulder down and forward and club head working under the stick but head/shoulder can be a bit more BACK for downswing until past impact
Explained the iron vs driver differences with upper body in downswing here...oldie but goodie:
ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGRyaXZlciB2cyBpcm9u
@@CogornoGolf thanks, will check it out.
Excellent drills that I am now working- thank you! Not having a collapsible antennae, I grabbed plastic 2 garden stakes out in my garage that are inexpensive and short (11 and 17 inches) that can be used for these drills!
Love it, Gordon! Hope this one helps!
Great tip, just what I needed, it helped me hit my irons better than I have in a good while. thanks!
You got it John!
Eric this video is great! It goes along with what Steve Holmes has been working on with me. I get the right shoulder going down too much and right tilt too early and not good contact. Thanks for this video!
Yes! Thanks Bruce!
The two most fundamental keys are the straight, locked in front arm and the trail elbow is kept close to the body on the downswing. Rotate the upper body around the spine and hit out of the hinge and everything else falls wonderfully in place. Here, you don't have to ever consider what is happening with the shoulders-they will naturally follow your best, natural swing plane...for whatever club you are using.
Another great video. Getting my right shoulder rotated forward is my number one goal for 24. You sold me - my checks in the mail for coaching. Also you should market a shoulder antenna. Best teaching aid of 24.
Thanks Steve :)
I like that idea!!!
I have always struggled with the correct swing sequence…the feel/move between right shoulder drive vs. left shoulder pull. Thx this helps!
Glad this one helped!
Happy New Year Eric. Great lesson. Does this also work for the Driver and Fairway Woods?
Thanks!
Lots of the same principles---yes!
There are some micro differences with driver due to setup and head more back in downswing we explain in more detail here:
ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGRyaXZlciB2cyBpcm9u
ua-cam.com/video/vj3py9jZ6q8/v-deo.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGRyaXZlciB2cyBpcm9u
This is the best tip/concept/image!! Thanks guys! (Hi Ty, I beat you here. :-)
Appreciate it!!
Trevor Salzman the absolute man
100%
Brilliant. Only word for it.
Appreciate it :)
Excellent video !
Thanks Steven!
Eric....I used to do this drill you have at the beginning, but I hated how it made me pull the club inside during the back swing. My normal backswing would always clip the alignment stick. It definitely helped on the downswing, but because I normally hinge my wrist a little early to ensure the club stays in front of my hands, it was a disaster of a drills. What am I doing wrong?
hey!
Not necessarily anything wrong....maybe just need to find a different drill to accomplish the same downswing goals.
I would need to see your swing to suggest WHAT drill that might be (can send to www.cogornogolf.com and I can help)
its OK for takeaway to go more OUT.....SO LONG AS....it comes back down on plane well!
What a great video !!!
Thanks Carlos!
Beautiful.... how high is that angled stick from the ball? From top of ball to tip of the stick? Thanks
I like to go a little more than a grip length above
Heres another video where I explain similar setup:
ua-cam.com/video/ybEg1AmnuBY/v-deo.html&pp=ygUhRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHN0b3AgcHVsbHMgYW5kIGZhZGVz
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It seems like another benefit of the 2nd drill is it helps keep the trail arm connected to the body.
100%!
I thought the best part of the video is when Eric showed the clip of the pro and said "inside the trail heel". That makes the most sense to me.
Thanks Mike---love that part as well. Credit to the team for editing that in perfectly!
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Eric, could you please clear something up for me? Are we still trying to do this move with getting the trail shoulder forward on 40 to 60 yard pitch shots?
Yes....assuming a neutral ball flight. For lower trajectory I would do it more....for higher I would do it LESS and let club THROW more.....but you still need to turn chest to get club to hit ground after ball and not hit fat.
Less of this inside 30 yards
Yet another way to describe the "tilt" in the context of shift turn shift turn described as by others. The real question is whether to teach positions or full motions to achieve solid ball contact.
:)
Ty
You got it!
Pete Cowen explains it quicker and much simpler. But thank you for all your videos
Thanks Tom!
My coach tells me the easiest way to maintain my spine angle on the back swing and downswing is to make sure I make side bend my main thought back n through, everything else falls into place if I maintain good ' side bend'.
Love it!
In previous videos, corgno has said it’s ok to let head move towards target (a little) in transition while moving trail shoulder down and towards target. And in the early part of the video Eric’s head moves like this when he swings. Later in the video (with the second drill) this guy tells him to have steady head? So which is it? I find a little head movement necessary to keep low point from being behind ball. Is this still ok?
Sorry about the confusion there
1. Yes....its OK to have the head move forward toward the target....it must.
2. But the timing (WHEN) is important
3. The head moves forward from the top of the backswing until left arm parallel in the downswing.....so only like the first 1/4 of the downswing
4. Then is STAYS THERE and doesnt CONTINUE to move forward.........thats the key.....it stays there......all the way through impact until arms parallel in follow through where it then releases to the finish
We have some videos where I explain this in more detail if you do some digging.
I think these are some:
ua-cam.com/video/TMMCQz3nlmw/v-deo.html&pp=ygUyRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGhlYWQgbW92ZWVtZW50IGdvbGYgc3dpbmcgaGVhZCBzdGVhZHk%3D
ua-cam.com/video/hbsHxC3bIw4/v-deo.html&pp=ygUyRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGhlYWQgbW92ZWVtZW50IGdvbGYgc3dpbmcgaGVhZCBzdGVhZHk%3D
ua-cam.com/video/BQpqfiHks9I/v-deo.html&pp=ygUlRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIHNoaWZ0IGFuZCB0dXJuIGRvd25zd2luZw%3D%3D
Gotcha. Makes sense. I think this is the missing link for me - the shoulders (and head) moving forward/down during transition/very early downswing until arm parrellel as you said. I was always afraid of getting steep or sliding with this move but predictably I would hit behind ball or blocked out right. I think this move is what’s meant by getting the right shoulder “in the slot?” And “covering the ball?” This move puts right shoulder in line to fire at the target. Once in this position the head now serves as an anchor and the swing becomes more rotary although hips still extend to target. I will check out video links and appreciate the detail and quick response. Keep up the good work!
Good videos especially the first and third one. Just to clarify head is anchor from arm parrellel to arm parrellel down swing. Pelvis and shoulders linear and rotary. One exception is driver where head can go back a little. Thanks for sharing.
This only works if you have the correct right wrist angle. Also, the right arm has to release during the down swing, terrible to try and hold angle which many people do. It's a good exercise but I think it's only scraching the surface.
Appreciate the feedback!
Update - Anyone watching shouldn't brush this off as just another video. After two swings in my simulator, using the second drill, my smash factor went up to 1.4 +, a huge improvement. I have never hit the ball so clean and so consistently. Thanks guys.
Love to hear this, Steven!
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:) Happy New Year my friend!
What about driver? Same move?
Hey Jake!
Driver will be a bit different due to setup differences (more tilt) and head more back in downswing.
Same idea with the shoulder down and forward and club head working under the stick but head/shoulder can be a bit more BACK for downswing until past impact
Explained the iron vs driver differences with upper body in downswing here...oldie but goodie:
ua-cam.com/video/TJtx-qVSgVU/v-deo.html&pp=ygUbRXJpYyBDb2dvcm5vIGRyaXZlciB2cyBpcm9u
ALL the answers to golf questions are contained in THE GOLFING MACHINE BY HOMER KELLEY. As far as the right shoulder is concerned, keep the right shoulder back but also down on plane or you will run out of right arm. Automatic clubhead throwaway.
Thanks for the feedback Lawrence!
Dang I missed out on it.
Can always join our monthly :)
Is it me, or does Trevor seem like a guy who should be giving you snowboard lessons. 😆
Haha Jack of all trades :)
Hi Eric, I want you know that your drill on how to lead with the right arm has significantly improved my ball striking. That being said, I still have a serious problem that is making me consider giving up golf: I'm a short knocker, and can only hit a 7-iron 140 yards. I'm 67 years old living in Florida and in good physical shape, but in the last 20+ years I've lost a lot of clubhead speed. My buddies tell me I have a good swing, but the good swing is not translating into more distance. It's very depressing to see tiny LPGA ladies hitting a 7-iron 15 - 20 yards longer than me. It makes me sick to the point I want to vomit.
Here's one good excuse: maybe my clubs are not right for me. I'm hitting an old set of PING S57 with a stiff shaft. If I can't add another 20 yards with irons and 50 yards with the driver, I'm quitting golf.
Where in Florida do you teach, and do you have a Trackman to analyze the swing and perhaps increase my length by 20 yards? I hit my driver fairly straight (most of the time), but I've lost approx. 50 yards in the last 20+ years.
Hey there!
Glad to hear that video helped! My in-person lesson schedule is completely booked in Pompano Beach, FL at this time, but please email service@cogornogolf.com with the subject "lessons" and we'll add you to the email list/notify you of any new openings. We have an awesome indoor setup with launch monitors and cameras. Would love to work together!
Pete Cowen!!!