SHOULD BIKES STILL HAVE RIM BRAKES IN 2023??
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I need to know right now!!! what looks better? this 2022 bianchi oltre xr4? or there new bianchi oltre ultimate?
This one!
Yes.
To be honest. None of them 🤣. Would stick to my giant contend 3 to both of those
this
Rim brakes hands down & yes as others have said allow choice is all that is asked. If not then the big companies new offerings can remain uninteresting to myself & others no problem.😉
Yes. It’s not a debate if rim brakes vs. disk brakes is better. It’s all about providing a customer a choice. Nobody likes being told what is good for you.
agree 100%
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉!
not always better, in a few areas they have advantages in a few areas they have disadvantages
But that’s simply not how business works. Sure, the industry may want to give the consumer a choice but when the profit margins no longer allow for it things change and or products die off. You wanting a choice has nothing to do with it.
@@LifeCycle1978 In a free market economy. The consumer has a choice. Industries will try to force products into consumers to rob them of any choice. But consumers still reserves the decision to purchase or not.
This is why boycotts works. If a company behaves badly. Consumers can refuse to buy your products. To force a company to lose money or go out of business.
Direct mount rim brakes with grooved brake tracks have insane stopping power. Just didn’t get sold long enough for enough people to try them. Light bicycles rim pads are also the best carbon pad I’ve used, especially in the wet. They bite hard but last 10x as long as Swiss stops. The tech is still improving, people just gave up on it based on 2015 rim brake tech.
Have you tried Light bicycle's grooved carbon wheels? I'd assume their pads would work best with their own wheels
@@coryabraham9199 I have a set of falcon pro’s. They do work great together. I also train on some vision kom wheels that came with the bike. They have the worst super smooth brake track and the light bicycle pads make them useable, both wet and dry. With normal carbon pads I couldn’t stop on flat ground in the wet on those wheels.
This hits the nail on the head, Dura ace 9100 rim calipers are insane, more than enough power to skid a tire which is all you need! Far more modulation than disc brakes.
Interesting. I love my LB wheels but the pads were so hard they wore through half the rim over three years with less than 2mm of pad wear. Also racing in the rain in a peloton of 70 when you're one of 5 with rim brakes is a bad time.
@@jordanmiller42 weird, I’m just about all the way through my first set but I haven’t noticed any wear on the tracks at all, groove still seems deep. But I’ll watch for that. Braking was definitely better in the first half of the pad. That is sketchy if it’s really wet and you’re in a bunch w/ only disc brake bikes it’s a bad mix. I will eventually cave and go disc and that is one of the few reasons.
Nothing better than a rim brake!
Absolutely. I raced for over 30 years on rim brakes, made it to 6 National championships and 2 Olympic Trials. Never once did I ever wish I had more braking power.
why need brakes.... just get more speed
@@GCPerformance18 not exactly if you ride in a big city like %90 of cyclists.
Exactly, If rim brakes were good for Lance and Chriss Froome, then they will be good for everyone
@@ozgurinsan Just buy a shopping bike with a basket on the front for in-town performance ;)
@@ozgurinsan Where did you get that number from?
YES! Keep up the rim brake support! Weight and maintenance cost FTW.
Another factor not often mentioned is that a lot of us who have been in the game for a long time have a ton of old parts lying around from rim brake bikes. I ride well over 10,000 miles each year, so I like having a spare bike with parts that are compatible if/when problems arise, as well as having other spare parts from past bikes. Sooner than later I'll be forced to go to disc brakes for, at least for me, no gain, which will then make most of what I have incompatible, and will be by far the most expensive single bike purchase I've ever made because it'll have to be a complete bike. It's not that I think rim brakes are "superior" - it's that it will be extremely expensive for no gain (for my riding style), and that I'll then have a TON of obsolete equipment that I've acquired over 30+ years of riding.
I am definitely in the same boat. I have no issue with disc brake bikes but currently do not see the need as we mostly have small climbs in Cape Town. I have 2 rim brake bikes and spares aplenty. I am starting to feel the bike industry squeeze as there are no new rim brake frames that I like and the mainstream groupset manufacturers are moving away from it. Will hold off for as long as I can as I will need to school myself on disc brake maintenance too 😜. Let the used market shopping and hoarding spree begin 😊.
It's easy to ensure you have àll the spares you need. Your fault if you are ever " forced" to go disc- brake.
Les groupes mécanique rim brake sont incassable ta pas de soucis à te faire il faut juste avoir quelques pièces au cas d un problème mécanique
Yes, we should still get the rim brake option. This bike is one of the few "modern" current catalog bikes I almost like enough to buy (if it had a 27.2 seat post and if it weren't so expensive). Social pressure and UCI rules have pushed disk brakes onto many, many riders who do not need them and do not want them.
I think Look still has some rim brake bikes.
Rim brakes for the win. Dead simple.
i would NEVER give up my 2007 Look 585, for any modern-day carbon road botched abortion.
so glad i scored a 2017 Izalco Max.
rim brake and full external cable routing FTW!!
Lol that's just holding on to tradition and being bitter about new tech
How to say “I can’t afford a new bike”, without saying “I can’t afford a new bike”.
yup 2007-2017 was about the best era of lightweight, fast, sensible bikes that didn't cost a fortune.
I agree, have 3 disc brake bikes and 1 2012 rim brake bike...I ride my rim brake bike more and see no benefit from disc
@@bonbonflippers4298 Where do you ride? That is very dependent where you ride
Rim brakes just looks much better that the disc version
I thought that for a while but after being so used to disc brakes, I think rim brakes now look weird
I personally prefer discs, however, I prefer having choices even more!
discs rub more than most people realize, resulting in huge power loss.
As someone who transitioned from riding a fixed gear to road bikes, having two brakes and a freewheel is already an massive improvement over one or no brake and a fixed rear hub. Also, because of my fixed gear riding history, I really like to service bike on my own. Rim brake bikes are just easier to service than hydraulic disc brake while offer better braking feel than mechanical disc brake.
Yes they should make rim brakes. 💯🚲
Rim brake oltre looks so much better, only thing I dont like with one piece aero stem/bars is when you have a few spacers on there it just looks massive. Sick bike though, love my rim brake supersix evo. I'd be hyped to have more options in rim brake in a new bike, probably would get the winspace slc2 if I were to get a brand new frameset anytime soon.
Since I retired from racing, and racing in the rain, I have no need for disc brakes.
discs are great for that reason for sure
That bike looks so much nicer with rim brakes. Love the paint job too. Rim brakes for the old school road man home mechanic is so much easier.
This is a beautiful bike. Definitely this Oltre XR4 over the new one.
Both options should be available, we all have different preferences. I prefer and have no issues rim.
Just gone back to rim afther 3 years on discs, brake rub, integrated headsets. All pain points and working on a rim bike is so easy.
what's interesting is that if you took a blind survey of World Pro Tour riders and mechanics what they prefer, I would say a large percent of them would say rim brakes. Yet the bike manufacturers feel the need to force feed 'disc' brakes to them. Some of the pro peloton's daredevil descenders did it many times in the rain on rim brakes - riders like Paolo Salvodelli, David Arroyo, Sammy Sanchez and Vincenzo Nibali.
I rode with a fast local group ride last weekend, in mountainous Colorado, and about a third of the 30-35 riders were on rim brakes. Some of these Cat 1/2/3 guys are on 7-8 year old bikes with 105 and Ultegra, maybe half of them on carbon wheels. Everybody's fast, everybody stopped.
I really hate seeing disc breaks on tt bikes. It makes no sense, but it's up to the sponsors
@@charliedillon1400 yup. I'm here in the bay area-Northern California and in our P12 criterium fields, there are still a good number of riders on rim brakes and mechanical shifting. Even in the 'minor' leagues in Holland and Belgium, look closely at kermesse photos and you will spot rim brake bikes and mechanical shift levers.
I hated my rubbing disc brakes…
If you don't ride in the rain and wet (on a road bike), rim brakes are fine. Mountain bikes need disc brakes. As per most of the comments I see here, road bike riders want a choice. Don't cram disc brakes down their throats. They weigh more, are harder to adjust and maintain. For road riding, give me rim brakes and quick release wheels. At least give me a choice.
I have always rode Specialized but looking at a 2023 Giant TCR Pro 1 because of rim brakes @$3600.00.
I bought a 2021 TCR Pro PC2 rim brake edition in early '22. I love it and so will you.😎
Best deal out there. Ultegra, carbon wheels, power meter.
The frame looks awesome, but I would not have picked those colors. Celeste all the way!
Yes I love Celeste too. WITH R BRAKES thanks❤
RIM BRAKE ALL THE WAY❤❤❤
ALL THE WAY TO THE PAST 🔥 🔥 🔥
@@DJWolves97 and it will function very well in the future
@@stevensantana8049 My disc wheels will too! Yours won’t 😢
@@DJWolves97 well my brake pads last me for 7-years.. disc brakes well... a year.. rim brakes maintenance very easy to maintain with no problems.. picking up oils or chemicals on the road or contaminate your brake pads on disc breaks I've seen that alot
@@stevensantana8049 I’ve also seen carbon RB wheels warp and delaminate after a descent; you can more affordably maintain and replace DBs than RBs.
Yes yes yes I've just arranged 105 rim brake bike this morning a pair of nice mavic wheels my best bike for the 5/7 years😊😊😊
Im glad they still sell it. But one thing i like about disc brakes is no wear on the rims, no heat on the rims. My disc brakes have been trouble free. A good thing because I'm a mechanical anti-talent and they seem tricky to mess with.
This was the main reason I bought a disc brake bike. I’m heavy and live somewhere cold and rainy with lots of mountains. The climate would eat rims like crazy. If I lived somewhere flat and sunny I don’t think there’s any benefit to rim brakes.
Rim brakes are easy to understand and maintain, and the power of direct mount brakes is a plus. Good to keep options to have customers deciding what they like.
This is the perfect bike for me, and I love rim brakes
Thanks for showing this beauty.
Love my rim brakes on my rebuilt CAAD10 Swisstop pads work brilliant 🤩 and yep I also own disc brake Cannondales
Yes, absolutely! Campy is still offering rim brake versions of all their road 12-speed gruppos (supporting up to 28 mm tyres), so why not have decent frame choice to build a rim brake bike in 2023? No need to start the old discussion about advantages and disadvantages but if somebody wants to revive an old frame with up-to-date components or build a new but classic-looking bike, it's still great to have them around and also have decent frame options.
Bad ass bike. Thank you brother for showing me what I and the rest of the rim/ light weight weenies wana see!
Seeing as I commute on a low end rim brake bike year round in all weather conditions (save for blizzards, hurricanes and tornadoes), I’d say it’s good to give the consumers a choice. Each has pros and cons, and different people will prefer different set up’s
Oltre XR4 rim brake 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Oh...and those are direct mount brakes. The bite those rims , realy hard with good braking power
yea direct mount was a nice improvement over regular caliper brakes I liked them alot
As above being a huge rim brake fan it's not the fact I hate discs I've had 4 disc road bikes but prefer my rim brake road bike...
The issue is I'm being FORCED to change to a system that's more heavy (disc groupsets are heavier than rim) they're also more expensive.... For a system of no benefit to me. In the wet I use alloy rims..... And when it's really bad weather like 99.9% of us I ride the turbo so while discs may have slightly better braking in wet conditions over an ALLOY rim it's invalid for me as I just don't ride in really wet conditions.
Now I'm having to look at a Time Alpe D'Huez just on the basis as I'm now being forced by lack of wheelsets and groupsets I want a frameset that is faced correctly.
It's a real shame it's come to this options being taken away = forced change for a lot of us. I think it's a disgusting move by the industry.
People that say rim brakes are dead it's hardly surprising when it's very difficult to get them now 🤦♂️🤦♂️ fact is if all manufacturers gave the customer and pros a choice.... It would be a different story....
I was on the side of the road adjusting my front derailleur. A guy on his ride on mower came up to me to make sure I was alright. It took me about 5 minutes but I fixed it. Guy way impressed. But it’s a 10 year old bike so easy to work on! Like with many of these new bikes, I’m hesitant because I’m not sure how to fix them.
I love my 2019 trek domane ultegra mechanical rim brake bike. I run 28mm tires.
me too i got a black xr4 rim 2 months ago. i thinks it good design still.
That is one Cool looking bike. I have rim-v-brakes and prefer them over anything else. Thanks 4 sharing! Cheers !! 😎😎😎
No problem 👍
I have this XR4 rim brake. The best carbon frame i had so far
I always am glad when I see a bike with rim brakes, but I also like the more modern look of discs. Choice is nice and bike manufacturers would do wise in listening to their customers instead of just ALWAYS trickling down racing technology. 99% of us cyclists will never race, but 100% need brakes, and we should still have a choice in that. But I love my discs on my 2022 Roubaix, they let me put wider tires on it.
to me rim brakes ride more lively and less complication compare to disc counterpart
disc have its purposes in certain condition. rain mud snow and crazy descent.
i think everyone should ride what they like and what fits their lifestyle
rim brake as makes amazing travel bike 😎
You have the wrong top headset for those Vision Metron handlebars. Your using the one for a standard stem the aero top cap blends in better with those handlebars.
Now I have Winspace rim brakes with Campy 12 Speed and wheels campy WTO 45 I would like to meet you so can see it GC performance
that sounds amazing!! send me an email gcperformanceyt@gmail.com
The irony of "rim" brakes essentially being a 700c disc is not lost on most of us... 🤷♂️
Rim brake for sure. Some people don’t want the complications of the Disk Brake. I bought a Disk Brake bike and I really did not like it. Also when you loose pressure (system needs bleeding)you can lose brakes.
mechanical over hydraulic
yea especially for ease of home maintaince it is huge
I've just got back into road cycling and went for a TCR Advanced 2 with rim brakes. I was looking at a Tarmac SL7 or Emonda SL7 but my TCR was a third of the price and it's lighter ! I've swapped the rims for carbon and it's just over 7kg.
Cool bike! Beautiful color and aesthetic. I’m surprised it’s not lighter. I have a steel bike that is only 7 oz heavier
probably because the extra paint, it was paionted locally
My disc friends have brake issues, off to the shop they go. I have brake issues, I'll usually have them resolved in less than 2 minutes.
I service my own bike so I aim to never ever own a disc brake bike. My time is too valuable to be constantly fiddling around with disc brakes for a useless "improvent" since I absolutely never compete or race.
It’s terrible that most manufacturers aren’t giving consumers a choice.
Just got a new bike with discs and rival etap. Gears great but heavy braking performance is great but what a bloody nightmare with rubbing and now a slightly buckled front disc wish I had never purchased the thing all I want to do is ride I am not a bloody mechanic oh and I every now and then I get a squeak from the bottom bracket which then mysteriously disappears!. Thank god I still have my old rim brake bike!!.
Yes , we should still have the option rim brake or Disc brake . I’ve got both but still love my rim brake SWorks tarmac better the my Disc brake bike that was bought to replace it . Its all about choice .
If pros had their way, they would all still be running rim brakes. There are almost no instances in the pro peloton that they would need such a high braking power. Even on high mountain decents, rim brakes are enough for modulated braking. Remember the time when Tadej was still swapping to a rim brake bike when climbing up the mountain.
If pros had the choice before using disc they wouldn't have changed because they are very fragile little things that have been racing using the same equipment for many years. Now they have used them I'm sure most wouldn't go back. Same in the comments here, most of the comments are from life long cyclists who like the thing they have always used
There is a pro team TODAY running rim brakes in the Giro. So yes.
I'd buy a bike like that with rim brakes. I have 2 very nice sets of Princeton Carbon Works Wheelsets. My Trek Emonda is a 2019 getting kinda old buy now. I'm fairly lightweight, it's flat where I live and doesn't rain much so I really don't need disc brakes.
It seems that it would be minimal cost for Shimano to offer a viable wireless rim brake option. They already have the shifter electronics and Bluetooth system from the hydro brake shifters. They just need a need lever housing for rim brake and the old rim brake calibers. The rest of the group set is the same as the disc set.
If you meant having wireless brakes Di2 i wouldn't dare touch that. There's so much safety concerns associated with it. There's already been iterations of Di2 rim brake, further advancing it to complete wireless is not ANY bike manufacturers should pursue.
I WANT ONE!
Freaking awesome! I'm definitely into rim brakes! So cool looker!
I think he is seling this model
Very clean. Beautiful ❤️
Yes. Really not about people thinking rim or disc is superior. I haven't ridden rim brakes in a while but if I wanted to buy them, I SHOULD be able to.
seems it would be the best solution but I am sure for these companies it is hard to gauge what to make before the season start and to make half rim and half disc and not sell through might be hard
@@GCPerformance18 Same gamble they have to take with super small or big frames and whack ass paint schemes.
Beautiful build, love the rim brakes!
So disc brakes have caught on because carbon fiber tech has stagnated. You cannot build a bike that is lighter, stiffer, and more aero. You must make a choice to trade off. Discs double down on the choice that aero is more important than weight. The UCI, who obviously works with frame designers and conglomerates and promotes their interests, chose to not update the weight minimum for racing bikes. This decision made discs viable for the peloton, as disc brake bikes even now cannot hit the 6.8kg minimum, except for perhaps the Spec aethos. If the weight minimum was dropped to even just 6kg, discs would be much less of a sell. I think discs are practical for heavy riders and in certain situations, but it is artificially being pushed as superior to rim brakes as far as racing is concerned.
100%!!! only time i ever feel rim brakes are not as good is if im descending fast with carbon wheels in the rain. But i don't ride in the rain so its not an issue. Rim breaks are lighter, require less maintenance and look better!! Disc is great for gravel and MTB for sure but not needed on road cycling that i do at least.
Yes. I just bought a 2017 S-Works Tarmac, Dura-Ace 9100, Roval CLXII’s, rim brakes. I specifically wanted rim brake. So, Specialized lost my sale on a new bike because they don’t make rim brake Tarmacs.
SWORKS SL6 here, in my oppinion, if I had a choice on a new frame, I would go back to rim brakes.
really? after a while now I kind of like the disc brakes and odnt think i would go back if I had both options
Never offered rim brake version in UK. Bloody annoyed they stopped offering the specialissma in Rim brake. Disc version looks woeful.
This is all about choice, user friendliness and economics. I have been racing bicycles since 1987 and I hate the direction the sport has gone in. Today it is more of a upper middle class to wealthy user sport. Some disc brake bikes look really cool and have cool electric tech but I prefer the simplicity of a rim brake, mechanical set up. ie; I don't want the extra stress of worrying to remember to charge the batteries on the bike. I can go on and on about the maintenance challenges with modern bikes. I want choice. BTW, cycling is definitely not a green sport any more!!!
Bianchi rim looks the bollocks and i wish there was a lot more out there so you dont have to go hunting just leave a choice for people who still want to ride rim brake im an oldie so very happy to stay on rim brake great content 😂.
Cool bike! Want those lively colors back. For hills/mountains I would never go without disc brakes. On the flats rim brakes are OK - except when it rains. I rode a lot of very steep hills back in the 1980's - scared the hell out of me. My conclusion: never rim brakes again. YMMV.
yea im the saame way I had to many close calls with rim brakes in the rain, I prefer discs now, now that I have them for so long I wouldnt go back to rim brakes
Yep they should, just bought an older bike so i could have mechanical rim option.
Beautiful bike. Would happily ride it!!!
It resembles the color of the Keisei Electric Railway in Japan.👍
THIS Oltre is BETTER. Hands down! Theres a CLASSIC look that older bikes have that older bikes just dont have 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 As beautiful and catchy as the newer bikes are, if you go hack to basics, all we need is a bike that looks good (just like this) a bike that can he upgraded if you choose (like this) and has a timeless design.
My bianchi only came with disk brakes. I ride mostly on the flats and in dry weather so I don't really need disk brakes.
alot of people feel the same way
No - move with the times or get left behind as you type on your typewriter
hello gc , i am a rim brake rider , i would like to upgrade my brakes to EE brakes since the current brake caliper is the old 5800 105, the rear wheel is kinda rubbing when i am climbing or getting up ever since i upgraded to the winspace hyper wheels which is wider .
Direct Mount brakes are absolutely glorious!
I’m gonna buy a new rim brake bike ASAP and just put it away in storage for 5-10 years!
I have a mechanical Ultegra 11 sp groupset sitting on a shelf in boxes, brand new, for the same reason.
Rim for normal riding days and disc for wet weather but hate to said that manufacturers are going disc and I guess sooner or later disc is the future. All of them have their pros and cons.
Yes, rim brakes and lightmess for the win
Personally I think this looks much nicer than the new Oltre Ultimate, I am a Bianchi owner myself, I have 2 rim brake Specialissima’s only weighing 6.2 kilos all up, but this is heavy at 7.5, I’ve just built a Factor Ostro Vam on Sram force for a friend that only weighed 7.5 kilos including power meter, pedals, Garmin mounts and bottle cages, I’m neither for or against rim brakes vs disc brakes, but I struggle to see the point buying a new rim brake frame these days, it won’t be long before you can’t buy anything for them!
I just bought a rim brake gravel bike, 14 Trek Crossrip. All but one of my bikes, the MTB, are rim brake. I have no need for disc brakes in Michigan.
Hell yeah it will continue to exist 💯
I get it that Disc are so much better overall for stopping, modulation is much better, performance on long DH runs (less brake fade), and they are also better in the wet. In addition, Carbon Rims will lasts forever with Disc Brakes, but then again, I have heard of guys going 10k miles with their carbon wheels that uses rim brakes. Disc are a must for Mountain Bikes (XC, Trail, Enduro, DH), but for me, I just prefer Rim Brakes for Road/Gravel Bikes, they are so much easier to set up and maintain. I just scored a brand new 2017 Trek Boone 7 at my LBS, and it was the only gravel bike they had in stock with Rim Brakes, and it was at more than 50% off, so I just had to grab it. I plan to keep my 15.5 lb Road Bike, and my 18 lb Gravel Bike forever, so I I just hope rims (for rim brakes), as well as rim brake pads are always available in the future.
Rim for Road, Disc for Dirt. This is what you call a super bike, just replace those wheels with a shallower depth to make it lighter
Nah, replace the wheels with deeper ones so that it actually goes faster. Because the thing that makes a bike a super bike is its ability to go fast, not weight, lmao
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 you sound like a Rapha rider lmao. "Aero" is all marketing bullshi*
Io adoro i freni Rims
Ho 2 bici disc e una delle 2 è già venduta
Terrò la Wilier 101 Air rims Ultegra R8000
E spero di trovare un gruppo Sram Force come questo per alleggerirla ancora di più
I ride rimbrakes on my daily endurance bike. That said im not running carbon wheels. Ive seen the delaminated carbon wheels following a descent in switzerland...nasty stuff.
Rim brake frames were thicker and stiffer. Ride a tarmac sl3, sl4 or sl5 with rim brake and youll see what i mean. Feels like a Rolls Royce compared to mega thin disc frames, which by the way, have an unbalanced front fork.
Yeah they have to bulk up the fork to combat the torsional torque so they lose weight elsewhere like the BB shell, which is where you get your watts. I'll take discs on a MTB, not road.
@@charliedillon1400 it does make for a more comfortable ride with disc, but it just feels like driving an SUV instead of a supercar.
My XR4 weighs under 6.8 kg, standard mechanical Dura ace
Both systems have their pros and cons.
I love good rim brake setup, even on longer decents.
I don't say that discs are bad.
But i have to say.. personaly, rim brakes looks better on road bike - just cleaner and more pure.
(I'm also fan of vintage roadies)
Maybe the industry will make full circle and in future we will se more rim brake options.
It will not be first time, that some thing will make full circle.
I MUCH prefer the aesthetic of disc brake wheels - the brake track on rim brake wheels just looks ugly to me. I was a mtb rider for years before I got a road bike though, so I'm biased. I suppose anybody who has ridden rim brakes for years is biased too. We're all stuck in our way, one way or another!
@@Pablosammy1 Well adjusted rim brake with good pads are really good.
But as mechanic, I rode many discs, and not all are created equal.
Many are not as good as good rim brakes..
But it also applies vice versa.
Disc are also good.. but I love the æshetic of round tubing vintage bikes.
They're not perfect for riding now, but still rides well.
I don't ride every day my neo-retro bikes, they are for most of time home decoration.
It's bit like owning vintage car..
The headset to stem area just looks off to me but everything else on this build looks badass!
yea I am not gonna lie I hate the look of those headsets
@@GCPerformance18 yeah maybe with it slammed it would look better but awesome build!
@@GCPerformance18 and the hoods being so small looking without the hydraulic pistons.... just don't see to many like that anymore
Unless you ride many, long hills in the wet: no need for disc brakes in my view. I actually experience my disc brakes loosing a lot of their breaking power in the wet, I assume due to all the road dirt incl greasy components which accumulate on the discs. So at the end of the day no big difference in the wet between rim and disc
This looks awesome.
It looks cleaner, more minimalist than disk brake.
Additionally, rim version is 12oz to a pond lighter, which is a lot better
Rim brakes should never become obsolete, nor should mechanical shifting. This market will always have entry level riders who do not need that extra stopping power. It's also a cheap way to save a little bit of weight. It's just a simple and proven system. If it was good enough for Lance Armstrong it's good enough for almost anybody.
I want a 6.8kg bike with rim brakes.
Imagine something like the aethos with dura ace mech. 12speed and eebrakes , syntace post and stem ,cane creek ti canks!???!!!
I still have all rim brake on 3 bicycles but Rim brake on carbon rim is an engineering mistake for climbing. I have warped two rims. one when I wasn’t experienced and another one when I was experienced enough to avoid much braking. But on 108 degree Fahrenheit day and 30-40 min long %6-15 descent with sharp turns eventually carbon rim gave up at the bottom of descent. As for the look of disc brake I don’t find them ugly.
On a road bike 100% yes. I absolutely hate the faff of disc brakes. My ultegra rim brakes have perfectly adequate stopping power, even in the wet.
It’s a logistical nightmare.
Most people who *want and love* rim brakes aren’t really buying any in 2023. Or 2022. Or 2021. Or 2020.
Let’s be real, how many rim braked Factor One, Dogma F12 and TCR Adv. SL have you seen on the road or in-stores? 😂