Yamaha Tracer 9 GT+ Review: The Ultimate Sports Tourer?
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2023
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I have to smile when I hear anybody saying "Too much tech...nanny features" etc. When I was very young, back in the 1970s, we had a motorcycle meet-up every August & truly ancient stuff would turn up. One was a pre-WW1 Norton (I think) that had fuel mixture & spark advance controls. The equally ancient owner could be heard lambasting "modern bikes" & how riders don't need auto-advance & carburetors that give the correct fuel/air ratio at all times "if they know how to ride....what're you going to do when it breaks?" Etc etc etc.
I really like the look of this Yam bar that last minute afterthought tacked on brake master reservoir boggles me no end.
I think the Multistrada V4S cruise is tied into the lean angle sensor - it applies a slowing of the bike when leaned to a certain degree to ensure traction. This is most likely why the Tracer slowed on cruise in the corners. Of course it may also could have been because you were bunched up in corners, being on a press ride and all. Anyway, always a good review, Motobob.
👍🏼
I've just done 500 miles over a little under two weeks, mix of moorland an motorway riding on mt09 GT (no cruise control), it's a very easy bike to ride and comfy too, plenty of grunt and a joy to ride on the twisty roads, it's pretty tall and heavy to drag around your garage or car park but other than that 👍👍😃😃😉
Contrary to what you say, this is their tourer and as such, should have decent wind protection.
Contrary to what you say, Yamaha claims the bike to be a sports tourer, not a tourer. Something with better wind protection would be the FJR1300, although Yamaha also claims that to be a sports tourer
The plus model has a higher screen than others and I think an accessory option for an even taller windscreen is available
@@jatinthakur3491no matter how tall screen you get, the wind management is bad on the tracer. I know,i own one. Installed 3 screens untill now. The issue is that the front cowling is to low mounted,and to narrow. And tje windscreen mounting flexes alot with a big screen...only viable option is madstead,but that is ugly as well and expensive
It's not an issue, as it can easily be fixed - I swapped screen for MRA Touring Vario, no issues with wind protection and buffetting at all.
@@adrianmathe3578 I fixed it easily, swapped the screen for MRA Vario Touring, no wind buffetting at all, fully satisfied with wind protection now. (i'm 180cm)
I already have a 900GT and I'm totally fine with the bike I have so for me there is no point in upgrading to the current spec but if Yamaha launched a Tracer 1000 based on the CP4 I'd be first in line. Now that would be a smashing bike with all this tech!
Loved the quick comparison with how the Triumph tiger 900 engine is different. That is really valuable to know 👍👍
Far to many manufacturers going down this Road
Learn to ride Your bikes, concentrate on the road, and take regular breaks
Gr8 to see adaptive cruise in an affordable bike ! which is a godsend in the busy motorways in UK. Anything that reduces fatigues is a safety feature. Not a fan of the front end .
Beautiful bike,cracking video 👍👍
Personally, I have the Tracer 9 GT, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. The engine is an absolute delight, and the versatility it offers is unbeatable. Incredibly fun.
I would be very interested in a Tracer 9SP - a Super sports tourer!
Looks gorgeous
Great bike. I`m a owner of GT+ since 3 weeks, coming from 2016 Tracer. The handling of GT+ is awsome and create a big smile in my face at every km. The dashbord is fantastic and operation is intuitive. The ACC is a nice feature, nice for me, but it´s a decision by yourself. I´m happy to have bought this bike.
Where did you get that from? I'm still waiting (UK) for a place to contact me to say it's available!
@@Termys In Germany the GT+ is available from the end of July, but only if you ordered in 2022 or early 2023. I´d ordered in November 2022. I think if you order by now you´ll get the GT+ in 2024.
What are the differences comparing with your 2016 Tracer? Is gearbox noise still present in new model?
I got my tracer 9 GT as a treat for my 50th last year , if I had known the + was coming out would of waited the spilt screen is the only thing I’ve not got on with. Great bike and the tech is incredible even in comparison to my 2010 R1
Hi may I know behavior of GT+ radar during lane filtering? will it do the braking? TIA
I’d stick with the gt , to many gimmick’s ( driving aids ) taking over the enjoyment if riding the bike , been riding 51 years , cruise control ( you learn to stop every 100 miles approx , top up bike , have a break ) used to doing 500 mile trips in a day . Keeping your distance etc , you’ve got eyes to keep your distance ( defensive driving technique) , car pulls into the gap in front, slow down . Abs and traction control is all you need , go on advanced driving courses etc 😊😊👍👍👍
With you there, but I do 200mile hops(3hrs)...just brought a new VW Golf GTD up the road for a mate,terrible thing, it pulls you into potholes you are trying to avoid, slams on the brakes when making an overtake on the m/way(i literally hit the steering wheel with my head,as I wear my seatbelt clipped due to a neck/nerve problem, goes automatically onto stop/start everytime you set off(the most useless feature in Scotland, where a battery last about a fortnight, never mind the starter motor?)... why haven't they learned from the Tenere, keep it simple,sell them by the boat load?
Well Said
I am torn between this, the lighter Triumph Tiger Sport 660 whifh has no cruise fontrol :( or a Kawa 1000SX. I have an R7 for a bit of fun but looking to back it up with a more comfortable cruser...a lot of nights thinking about the choice. Planning on finishing the garage later with Kawa RS900 Cafe... So wans thinking Id have a 2pot, 3 pot and 4 pot...(if I dont get the 1000sx)...
Love to know what you'd think of the adaptive cruise if added to 1000sx? Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx+???
All the extra tech seems mostly pointless to me but I’d want that bigger tft screen on the 9GT please. I’m guessing next year’s model
We collected our gt+ yesterday 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great review, thank you for taking the time to do them! What would you suggest for everyday riding in the city between this bike and the Africa Twin?
No, get a scooter.
Best answer your going to get 💯
Once I saw the Tracer 9 GT overalll styliing and addtional technology, it just didn't work for me and I hurried and found a new previous model Tracer 900 GT. I love that bike.
I just got my Tracer 900 GT ( previous Tracer 900 for sale now) 2 weeks ago and I agree with you absolutely about styling. Don’t see the point paying thousands more for the new model. And it doesn’t look like bargain anymore.
I think the Tracer would compare to the Versys 1000, which is a bit bulkier and probably better if you carry a passenger. Regardless, nothing can beat the reliability and drama-free ownership of a Japanese bike. Thanks for the video.
Makes me love my ealry 2000 bike even more.
The non plus version of the Tracer 9GT would appeal , if they got rid of the Dame Edna / Wall-E / Groucho Marx dashboard LCD and had this one instead.
I'd read some stuff about combined braking on the 2023 Tracer 9GT+, and from reading it, it didn't appeal. I'd need a long road test , doubt I'm going to get one of those !
The split screen is one of the main reasons that I'm sticking with my 2015 tracer rather than updating/upgrading to the new model. I'd also rather have the 10kg weight saving over the radar tech
This might be a contender to replace my Kawasaki Z1000SX. I'll have to give it a try
I have a 2022 Tracer 9 GT, it is a brilliant motorcycle. Before I made the purchase I did research and looked at the Tiger 900 GT Pro, Kaw SX1000 GT, Suz GSX1000 GT+, BMW F900, Suzuki VStrom, and The. Kaw Versus. The Kaw SX1000 and Suzuki GSX+ are great motorcycle but the insurance costs are very high. From a performance standpoint, I think the Tracer is better. The one motorcycle that I was torn between is the Tiger 900 GT Pro. I think Triumph makes one of the best motorcycles on the market. The Tiger 900 is nicely equipped. I ended up choosing the Tracer 9GT. In reality, I am not going to be doing the " Long Way Around" trips anytime soon. The performance, safety features, cruise , heated grips, and pillion bags as standard plus yamaha dependability you can't go wrong. It is a great sport cruiser that you can crush a lot of miles on it.
I have both, the Tiger and the Tracer. Tracer is much more comfortable for long distance trips on paved roads. Much smoother engine and no vibrations on highway. However, Tiger will be more comfortable on lower speeds and dented roads.
@@SergeyVikultsevNicely said Sir! First person on here that actually has Common sense 👏👏👏
I’ve sat on it. It’s small for a 6 foot plus rider.
Stunning bike! But I still don’t understand why Yamaha couldn’t design a proper headlight unit, an actual touring screen and a comfortable seat for the GT+
Thanks for another quality post MB🤘
Call Yamaha and complain 😂
Guessing calling it the GT$ is a bit too bold.
I’d be quite happy with the standard Tracer 9 if it came with that instrument panel instead of that hideous split thing it currently has.
It is hideous screen, maybe someone will figure out a swap for old models 🤔
I just wish Yamaha would stop screwing around and throw the MT10 engine in this platform. The triple is okay but a crossplane I4 would be a prefect match for this sports tourer.
Maybe so but fuel mileage is holding that back. Stopping every 120ish miles for fuel is not to good for a sport tourer. Maybe a 6gallon tank would make it viable.
Another excellent vid! Nice "job" if you can get it... Good Day, mate! ✌️ Out dp.
I have the Tracer 9GT. It's a great bike - I don't mind the twin TFTs, but the windscreen is awful. I've tried two alternatives and still not completely happy. The bottom line is that even though I love the bike the finish is poor quality. Despite cleaning and ACF50 some components look bad after just one winter. Yamaha wouldn't entertain my warranty claim (dealer supported) and said they can't take into account road salt. Well, my five year old Triumph was still like new. Unacceptable. As for the GT+, I think it's far too expensive and definitely not worth the extra money.
Glad you got that off your chest 😮💨 we were sooo worried 😂
I have a Tracer 9GT and find the standard seat a bit of a pain after 200 kilometres, mainly because it jams you against the tank because of its forward slope. Is the new seat on the GT+ much better. If so, is it available as an accessory to fit to the 2021 Tracer GT?
standard seat is a pain in the ass, the wind protection is screaming in my ear to stop riding and buy a different bike, seating position with bent knees is so aggressive I feel like sitting on a sport bike and thats why I sold it. Best decision ever. My Tenere 700 is way more fun.
@@meoffjack I feel like if you ended up with the Tenere then you flat out chose the wrong type of bike to begin with. Should have figured that out on the test ride or even just sitting on it.
@@JtwizzleI agree with you 👍😂🤣
so do you think this bike is the replacement for the FJR1300 or there will be a replacement for that bike? with bikes like Tracer 9 GT is the FJR still considered as a sport touring or just a touring bike?
Call Yamaha and ask they 😂🤦♂️
The only time I use cruise control is on the interstate here in the U.S. when there is no traffic around. When I'm around traffic I just turn the cruise off, so adaptive cruise is something I would never use.
Exactly 👍
Tired of hearing the whining about how lazy people are & how they need CC on a motorcycle 😂 Go drive a car & sit in traffic 🤡🤡🤣🤣
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve💯👍🏻👏🏻
Good job Bob, ...I think this new Tracer 9 GT+ will soon replace my BMW R1200R of 2017, because i think seriously that BMW is now to much expansive : the same bike (R1250R) = up 22 000 € 🤬
I looked at one yesterday and I have coupe of observations vs. my current bike 2021 Versys 1000.
- It’s more compact compared to Versys 1000. I wouldn’t recommend for 2 up.
- It does have adjustable suspension however rear is still manual adjustment.
- Radar is a nice idea but I find it useless as it takes away from the fun of riding and being of control.
Wind protection. I didn’t ride it so I can speak to it but based on looks it doesn’t look adequate for highway riding. Could be wrong here.
- TFT looks busy. I’m a function over form guy.
Maybe you can write Yamaha and make your suggestions 👍😂🤦♂️
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve maybe. At least one of us would do something useful.
I'm in for a surprise when I finally purchase a new bike. I just recently bought a bike with ABS after nearly 40 years of riding.
I agree 😂
Looks the absolute business !! 🤤
This bike was on my shopping list. I do not want all the electronics, radar, traction control etc. might look at the basic one and buy ohlins for it.
My thoughts too 👍
$16.5k starting price in US
Versys 1000 SE+ for the win
Yamaha should have kept tracer as a little brother and made a seperate 1200-1300 cc 2 up touring machine. Touring on tracer 9 works fine with single rider or short day trips with passenger and weekend luggage. Yamaha has no competitor in the segment of regular full fledge touring bikes. Not sure why yamaha stopped producing or remake of FJR1300.
@pointsonly They discontinued ST because of emission regulations. Same related to FJR. Hope they will introduce something new any time soon.
Perhaps I missed opinions on the following, but what about: Garage manners; easy to maneuver in the parking lot? Maintenance schedule? Seat and ergonomics still “super comfortable” after eight - ten touring hours? What’s the fuel type/range/consumption?
That's the pilot...wrong Y/T channel
Buy one & give us your thoughts 🤡😂
Still waiting on a Tracer 10 😕
My dream
The bags look terrible kind of an afterthought I guess. Everything else looks good and that motor is a Gem. The price is a bargain compared to other models in the class. It’s around $5K less in my local dealer than the Tiger 900 GT🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Nice
Until they fix that crappy suspension settings (just 2), all this tech is a waste. Id rather take progressive manual damper setting than what Yamaha thinks is best for me. Btw own the GT and ridden around 20k kms. The good thing though is the engine - powerful and fuel efficient for touring
Well said 👏
I want more HP, I’ve been dying for a sport tourer with 200hp
How much do you rekon it would cost without all the tech? That’s the interesting question.
Maybe you can special order one 👍
Let me know how that works out.
Gsx1250 bandit best all-rounder ever for price tec just spoils the ride
Hi, is the 23 identical to the 24? Thanks
Yes exactly the same 😂🤣🤦♂️
I want a three cylindred 1200cc from Yamaha… 😇🥰
Take back all this tech,and give a comfy seat
Yamaha always king ❤❤
I may have missed this, but is the suspension the latest version? Reviews of the original (semi active) were not overwhelmingly positive. Just wondered if it’s been updated since launch. Great review. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
I still hate the fact that it has only one light, It just looks odd
5 years down the line and all that tech starts getting a bit flakey. No thank you.
I say by the style of the bike, it's more adventure tourer. Definately not a sports tourer.
I do like the new dash instead of the older split dash.
Ah sorry, but it is definitely not an adventure tourer. It IS a Sport tourer. Yamaha made it as such. It Is not designed for off road. You can convert it, sure. But it is built to be a Sport tourer. Yamaha's adventure tourer is the Tenere.
Am I the only one that thinks a real GT should have shaft drive?
Yes you’re 😂
I would be curious to see it against the mv Agusta turismo véloce …. ;)
Go test ride them & find out.
We will wait for your report 🤔
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve i would but my mv store dont test ride unless you have 2 full years with license A (where you start with A2 here, so i m out but still need to have 2 years)
Yamaha i have tested mt09 its nice and in fact i am considering it for changing bike.
Surely us bikers only ride on motorways or highways when we absolutely have to, we generally seek out the twisties or more interesting roads.... so the radar system is largely redundant and little more than pub bragging rights? 🤔
Be no good for a track day either. Ho ho.
Shaft drive would have put it over the top.
Unfortunately they put all of these gadgets and still have that absolute rubbish screen and seat that you need to replace just after buying it ! It is a disgrace for Yamaha not to solve this basic trouble well known by all their users at probably just a minor cost.
For this price I would have Ducati V2S!Much better suspension and comfort
9:28 Yamaha 🎉 from 150cc .
Not for me. I've already got this type of tech on my motorway weapon of choice, my car. Don't need it on my bike as well.
My guy put your feet corrcetly on the pegs, anything else makes it look like you'd crash the second you met a corner on a trackday.
I felt like your review was spot on, thank you for the info!
Yamaha, are you listening? Produce a Tracer 10, CP4 engine with a bigger fuel tank. Thank me later!
RE are selling well... people wonder why 😂
That old split screen scuba mask screen was total shit in my opinion. Yamaha defo made an improvement with that part
That upper headlight kills an otherwise good-looking bike.
I'd still take the kawasaki versys 1000 gt over this anyday
Crazy how this has too much tech while their middleweight (MT07 and XSR700) barely have anything aside from ABS.
They at least should add traction control, slipper clutch, or even a better suspension to these aforementioned bikes for the price they are sitting rn.
This one is comparable to xsr900 which has quick shifter and cruise control as standard
Has some cool tech but the Honda NT1100 seems like a better bike
Probably is
Come on Yamaha, where’s the shaft?
In the super tenere. 😜
In your car 😆
Minute: 2:12 is too funny 😂
Funny how reviews kinda miss big points. So here goes:still a crappy seat,sloped forward,and you end up hitting the jewels to the tank. Do not bother with the comfort seat,still crap,and way to expensive for crap. Windscreen still crap,wind protection is a hit and miss on the tracer. Buffeting,and the windscreen mount to flimsy,if you install a tall screen,it will bend from the mouting. And you compare the bike with the big boys. Sorry,not just,yeah,it is cheaper but can t compare spec to spec to the big boys in the class. Nice screen, adaptive cruise is cool only for commuting or riding on bigger roads,i can live without it,most of us can. Same brakes as the gt,but linked now. Linked is nice. But the brakes,you say are good,well,i beg to differ. They are just enough,but not great. Semiactive still only dampening, and manual preload. But the suspension is bad. Can t really adjust preload with real measurements as the bike is not rolling, so if you do a semiactive suspension,do it all the way. Still only 2 settings? Difference is little between the 2 settings. No other adjustmens. So,i would gladly pay 17k euro for a tracer ,but with better brakes,suspension,and screen. It just feels they gave it some gizmoes,and increased the price by alot. So,i will gladly keep my tracer 9 gt, not upgrade to the +. Not worth it. To be honest, i would br better off getting a tracer 9 , when they give it the dash. Add qs and heated grips. Buy aftermarket sidecases and topcase, and do a full suspension upgrade ,with professional setting. That will get you a better bike😊
Nicely said Sir!!👏👏
Most of the people on here are 🤡🤡🤣
@@ChrisSauer-oe5ve thx . I say these things after 20.000 km on the gt. I really love the bike, for it s great engine, light and flickable character. But on some points ot s a miss. And these are design mistakes that should have been solved for the next generation, + model. And it got sooo expensive compared to 3 years ago... I will just pay 3k extra and get the tiger 1200 gt,then to buy the +.
yeah acc only useful and safe on motorway
All these gadgets controlling the bike, people taking autostradas, sat nav…I don’t get it. Where’s the “adventure”? ,ignore as well get a good virtual reality headset
i have a fj09 and i think it has too much electric crap on it. just give us a bike with a throttle and a brake with a clutch
wish it had shaft drive. ??!!
No!
Go buy a car if you want a driveshaft 🤦♂️
Seriously? 😂😂😂
Panniers are too small
Too much tech. Too much tech in general on new bikes
How the F is this not a touring bike? Especially when you compare it with Tiger 9? That Kawi isn't on the same planet as this motorcycle. I didn't understand this review very much.
Fvck that shit, having the brakes and gas apply themselves would freek me out.
That didn't take long
Don't want one, don't buy one
Nobody cares mate
@@BN1960 If you need the bike to apply brake and gas for you , you have no business being on a bike.
@@spartanx169xHe needs a chauffeur to drive it for him ☝️ 😆😂
I don't want all of the Electronic Crap .. I want the basic bike with manually adjustable suspension ..
where triumph 400 review
We haven’t been able to ride it - I believe not until November 😔
@@motobob i was waiting for your review. It would be good to have a different opinion to ours here in India. Anyway, great video on the Tracer
Cardo breaks and doesn't stand by their products. I use Sena now, i hope their products will be of better quality and won't break within first year of ocassional use.
Do tell 🤔
Any bike that is chain driven, can't be defined as a touring bike.
Sorry dude but this ain't a review, rather is promo video for Tracer GT+. This coming from the owner of Tracer 900 GT.
Well said, I was thinking exactly same thing 👏😂
What is the point of doing a bike review and not including the sound of raving the engine?! 🤷♂️
The only thing I don't like is an ugly exhaust. The shape and sound is good, but the material is bad and after a few thousands km it looks really ugly, Otherwise a great package and fun bike.
The seat is junk!
There you go.
Your welcome 🤗
I don't want any bike that starts to think without my permission and take over controls. I guess I am a curmudgeon.
Lol 😂 not too much tech, very little compare to top tourers. 😂
Radar??? How about Radar and Laser Jammers so Cops can't clock you speed and give you a speeding ticket?
👍😂🤣🙌
A bike with so much of the alphabet, and then some, it should be designated it's own flag?😂