Well There's Your Problem | Episode 126: The 1946 Naperville Wreck

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  • Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
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    CHAPTERS:
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:06:45 The God Damn News
    00:20:44 Main Topic
    00:23:30 Main Topic, Really
    01:46:07 Safety Third
    01:53:48 Commercials
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  • @grantmaurer9921
    @grantmaurer9921 Рік тому +494

    So Roz is sick and we don't even get the Muppet voice again? This is ridiculous.

    • @QuarrelsomeLocalOaf
      @QuarrelsomeLocalOaf Рік тому +97

      The woke moralists cancelled Roz's Professor Lobster voice! 😭

    • @ianhomerpura8937
      @ianhomerpura8937 Рік тому +5

      What episode was that again?

    • @grantmaurer9921
      @grantmaurer9921 Рік тому +34

      @@ianhomerpura8937 Episode 109: Rhodesia

    • @Pheonixco
      @Pheonixco Рік тому +32

      @@grantmaurer9921 Yes the episode I nearly died of oxygen deprivation from laughing so hard.

    • @danielled8665
      @danielled8665 Рік тому +5

      I know! I feel so cheated.

  • @HeavyMetalMan3
    @HeavyMetalMan3 Рік тому +314

    Podcasts are an audio medium, which makes it weird and impressive that this one is improved so much by Devon despite being completely silent

    • @Deimonik1
      @Deimonik1 6 місяців тому +2

      He's the WTYP Charlie Chaplin.

    • @agmlego
      @agmlego Місяць тому

      @@Deimonik1 *they

  • @assert_justice3783
    @assert_justice3783 Рік тому +519

    Liam is the source of all audio problems. Even when it's not his fault, it is in spirit.

    • @RedSaint83
      @RedSaint83 Рік тому +26

      Having seen his van, I can only imagine the Rube Goldberg machine that his computer setup must be.

    • @danielled8665
      @danielled8665 Рік тому +7

      ​@RedSnt if it works it works? 🤷‍♀️ LOL there's been exactly one WTYP that I physically couldn't listen to because Audio, but I think it was a guest issue.
      Still, that was probably a Liam Audio Curse as well, I'm actually fairly confident Liam was actively at the guest's house spraying water on their mic. Lmfao

    • @assert_justice3783
      @assert_justice3783 Рік тому +2

      @@danielled8665 The Process bonus episode (which I think you're talking about) is pure torture.

    • @kgaumont
      @kgaumont Рік тому +3

      @@RedSaint83 if I had a gun to my head and I had to guess, I would hazard that his gain is up too high
      (which would explain getting bleed-over from his headphones? and also why his professional quality mic still sounds like a gamer headset)

    • @RedSaint83
      @RedSaint83 Рік тому +3

      I'm just worldbuilding, not dissing Liam for the record, I'm sure he has a cleaner setup than myself. It's still fun to imagine what goes on behind the scenes based on just the sounds.

  • @DMarsh1394
    @DMarsh1394 Рік тому +509

    It can't be said enough that the addition of Devon's commentary is amazing. They are an international treasure

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid Рік тому +45

      Counterpoint- it's different than what I was used to and it therefore terrifies me, the American voter😢

    • @leejay3339
      @leejay3339 Рік тому +53

      They fill the hole in my heart left by Activate Windows' absence

    • @deadasfak
      @deadasfak Рік тому +9

      They just have to find a less annoying way to make notification noises. Or I have to get used to it

    • @HugoEckener127
      @HugoEckener127 Рік тому +14

      Their running commentary is, itself, a silent podcast with text about the disaster that is WTYP

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 Рік тому +5

      Is Devon actually that jacked?

  • @ironcladlou
    @ironcladlou Рік тому +420

    I very much appreciate the addition of Devon to the podcast. They are delightfully sassy.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar Рік тому +7

      This 100%!

    • @LifesNeverHumDrum
      @LifesNeverHumDrum Рік тому +17

      In this house we live and appreciate Devon!! NB solidarity

    • @ValerieEnriquez
      @ValerieEnriquez Рік тому +21

      I agree. Devon's text commentary is a treat like the the footnotes in a Discworld novel.

    • @lyndonwesthaven6623
      @lyndonwesthaven6623 Рік тому +7

      I hadn't realized how essential it was that the editor editorialize, but I've seen the light

    • @RedSaint83
      @RedSaint83 Рік тому +10

      Also, having the occasional "ding" and other sound effects really help me focus. Great addition indeed.

  • @tessacarter5615
    @tessacarter5615 Рік тому +281

    love that the "why train not fast" episode comes out the day that Andy Byford gets hired by Amtrak to make the train fast again

    • @birkobird
      @birkobird Рік тому +62

      Andy Byford and his namesake the Byford Dolphin

    • @Cynbel_Terreus
      @Cynbel_Terreus Рік тому +8

      OH SHIT YESSSSSS

    • @litkeys3497
      @litkeys3497 Рік тому +8

      TRAIN DADDY😍

    • @nataliella97
      @nataliella97 Рік тому +8

      this is the best possible place I could've learned this news thank u

    • @Vanq22114
      @Vanq22114 Рік тому +7

      MTFA: Make Train Fast Again

  • @curiouskarl5485
    @curiouskarl5485 Рік тому +85

    Miles was giving such pleasant descriptions of all these old trains that at 57 minutes when they said "this will be important later when it wrecks" I honestly went "no! it wrecks? but the train is so nice," completely forgetting which podcast I'm listening to.

  • @masonturner0
    @masonturner0 Рік тому +96

    Devon deserves all the praise they are getting but I would feel bad if nobody mentioned our unsung heroes, Milkshake and Pizza Boy.

    • @smatthewson2613
      @smatthewson2613 Рік тому +12

      Yes, I approve of cats, and am particularly happy to hear they are house cats with defined mealtimes. Yay Milkshake and Pizza Boy!

  • @user-xsn5ozskwg
    @user-xsn5ozskwg Рік тому +178

    I really do love this podcast. The disillusion and sadness that come with "this tragedy happened and will happen again without systemic change" coupled with friends just goofing with each other is a great pairing to keep things from getting too depressing.

    • @user-xsn5ozskwg
      @user-xsn5ozskwg Рік тому +22

      Also, damn, Dev is an expert editor. They're an aces addition to the team in so many ways.

  • @moonbeast1312
    @moonbeast1312 Рік тому +253

    I appreciate Alice reusing bits from trashfuture in case wtyp listeners haven't heard them

    • @pamdemonia
      @pamdemonia Рік тому +56

      It's very ecologically friendly!

    • @scorinth
      @scorinth Рік тому +71

      Only Alice can reduce all podcasting to a souplike homogenate.

    • @VeggieRice
      @VeggieRice Рік тому +2

      i feel the opposite, but when you frame it in that light it's not so bad

    • @VeggieRice
      @VeggieRice Рік тому +16

      @@scorinth that doesn't sound very rigid...

    • @HamburgerTime209
      @HamburgerTime209 Рік тому +9

      I don’t listen to Trashfuture so I appreciate it

  • @pedantsunited5368
    @pedantsunited5368 Рік тому +30

    Liam: "I'm really not getting the echo it's weird"
    Narrator aka Devon: "the echo was coming from Liam's mic"

  • @xmlthegreat
    @xmlthegreat Рік тому +198

    Devon you are a perfect beautiful lovely angel for removing poor Justin's coughs. I understand how much work it was. You are greatly appreciated.

    • @user-xsn5ozskwg
      @user-xsn5ozskwg Рік тому +3

      Seriously, some expert work

    • @RatPfink66
      @RatPfink66 Рік тому

      a little cruel of him to leave the 1-3 second silences in there though. at least for those of us whose wifi likes to drop a perfectly good connection every hour or so.

  • @Phood54531
    @Phood54531 Рік тому +89

    I appreciate Devon doing the full Waldorf and Statler through captioning

    • @felgraf9811
      @felgraf9811 Рік тому +4

      Statler: "This podcast's about a disaster!"
      Waldorf: "I think left an extra letter in that sentence."
      Both: "DOHOHOHOHOHO"
      (This podcast is great I just love me some Statler and Waldorf)

  • @AlRoderick
    @AlRoderick Рік тому +62

    Regarding safety third: this is an interesting conundrum because one of the most important things in woodworking and machine shop work is to not wear gloves around rotary tools like table saws, lathes and other sorts of things because what they will do is catch the glove and pull you into the machine. Far better that an industrial cutting tool takes off a piece of your finger rather than entrapping and crushing your whole arm. So while those cut resistant gloves are perfect for a manual knife or even something like a mandolin slicer, I'd argue that using them on a power deli slicer is probably a bad idea, far better is the actual safety device on those machines, the hand guard that grips the end of the meat for you. Or even better, most modern slicers have a self-driven food tray that slides itself up and down the blade. Your hands don't even have to be on the machine, you set the guides up before you turn the thing on and then when it's running you back the hell away.

    • @scottishgentlemen6038
      @scottishgentlemen6038 Рік тому +16

      Agreed. Gloves and rotary tools are a bad combination. In this story, it was even mentioned that the gloves were too large and dangling off the end of the fingers. You have to wonder if that's the reason the glove caught in the slicer. Of course, the boss asking his employee to operate dangerous equipment without training is the real problem here.

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid Рік тому +3

      Yeah, I would use the mail glove to slice a hoagie but not the cheese. I'd just get a second thing of cheese to put on the cheese to create pressure when the cheese was getting slicered. Saved the cheese butts for Food not Bombs.

    • @wrenmarshall2101
      @wrenmarshall2101 Рік тому

      As someone who both works a deli counter and has lost the tip of my thumb at a deli counter, the self driven tray is great in theory, except when it's designed in such a way that bumping the slicer can trigger it accidentally, making the entire thing slam with surprising force into the blade

  • @andersonneil2293
    @andersonneil2293 Рік тому +77

    Miles is a wonderful guest. Their presentation style makes me feel like I'm on a tour through history

    • @scout8145
      @scout8145 Рік тому +6

      Same! I felt like I was on a lovely guided tour

    • @augustthenerd4213
      @augustthenerd4213 Рік тому +2

      Same!

    • @RatPfink66
      @RatPfink66 Рік тому +5

      that ability to talk about an event that happened in 1946 or '47 as matter-of-factly as if it happened last week is something precious. we're taught history as true myths, or as Shorty McFrenchface called them, "lies agreed upon." it is a subtly subversive act to demythify it.

  • @dufourea
    @dufourea Рік тому +34

    miles surfing the chaotic energy of this episode is so gloriously aspirational

    • @InterurbanEra
      @InterurbanEra Рік тому +6

      Hahah, thanks! It was super fun as always.

  • @TickTockTimeTraveler
    @TickTockTimeTraveler Рік тому +78

    oh Alice please don't tell my mom "God respects an Aperol Spritz," she's alread bulk buying the Costco Aperitivo on the monthly

    • @TickTockTimeTraveler
      @TickTockTimeTraveler Рік тому +30

      Alice Caldwell-Kelly California wine moms over 45
      🤝
      dying on this hill for Aperol Spritz

  • @colin591
    @colin591 Рік тому +87

    devon is our hero because they are the invisible 4th podcaster that we all imagine ourselves to be

  • @huntermorgan4201
    @huntermorgan4201 Рік тому +11

    Devon screaming "It was Liam" from the ether of post-production makes me cackle

  • @CabooseSP
    @CabooseSP Рік тому +13

    Sleepy Roz at the end there looks like he's going to be visited by three spirits of blueprints conceptual, final, and as-built

  • @joshuagreen3185
    @joshuagreen3185 Рік тому +11

    kinda surprised that no one brought up the very obvious parallel between mixing heavyweight and lightweight cars in a train, and mixing tank-sized SUVs/pickup trucks and sensibly-sized cars on our roads

  • @xorxy
    @xorxy Рік тому +148

    Wow I can't believe my best friends Justin, Alice and Liam uploaded this podcast just for me to listen to!

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 Рік тому +44

    I've been on the California Zephyr quite a number of times. Even though trains are slow and don't run often enough in the US, you still end up seeing a bunch of scenery that you won't see if you go in a car.

  • @holo_val
    @holo_val Рік тому +18

    41:30
    [Miles] "It'd be funny if they actually put bondo on airplanes."
    [Me, working at aerospace fabricator] "uhhhhhhh"🤫

  • @Xogzi003
    @Xogzi003 Рік тому +69

    Stop interrupt me listening to other podcasts with Alice

    • @Loeb5
      @Loeb5 Рік тому +7

      The greater trash future podcast universe

    • @jasonyoung5628
      @jasonyoung5628 Рік тому +11

      All hail our velvet voiced queen!

    • @HamburgerTime209
      @HamburgerTime209 Рік тому +1

      Literally same

    • @jacobrzeszewski6527
      @jacobrzeszewski6527 Рік тому +3

      Is this pinnable. That grammar is not… hmmmm…

    • @Xogzi003
      @Xogzi003 Рік тому +9

      @@jacobrzeszewski6527 they wouldn’t pin me, i’m just a little birthday boy

  • @blackmagemasher4031
    @blackmagemasher4031 Рік тому +118

    Thank you everyone who makes these possible, they are a bright spot on my dim days

    • @DeHeld8
      @DeHeld8 Рік тому +5

      Hang in there, comrade. Even though the world is dark, there is still goodness and light out there. Rest, and you will find new strength to see that light.

    • @thomasgiles2876
      @thomasgiles2876 Рік тому +5

      They are a bright spot for those of us that are just dim too.

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid Рік тому +1

      For real though. Typing this comment while wearing sunglasses inside bc my head is explode

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Рік тому

      You have to be careful using bleach cleaners on your dim days. You get stains that way.

  • @muscledad3113
    @muscledad3113 Рік тому +24

    The hit marker sound effect gives me life every time

  • @Wolfie123123
    @Wolfie123123 Рік тому +10

    Devon dropping in red arrows *complete with checkerboard transparency background* fucking makes my day in the smallest possible way. Thank you.

  • @KapuraIII
    @KapuraIII Рік тому +85

    I love the hits Devon puts in when adding to the convo. Keep up the good work

    • @Aaron24371
      @Aaron24371 Рік тому +10

      lets me know to tab in so love em

    • @qtipmotha
      @qtipmotha Рік тому +7

      They've been a nice edition to the podcast

    • @tinnyfish
      @tinnyfish Рік тому +5

      They're fantastic on UA-cam, but when I'm listening to the audio-only version (e.g. on Spotify), they're not so great.
      (I still love you Devon ❤)

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Рік тому +6

      As a fellow enby I appreciate the nonbinary orneriness that is Devon. 😊 Warm and fuzzy.

  • @GojiMet86
    @GojiMet86 Рік тому +99

    This accident single-handedly limited most passenger speed limits outside the NEC to 79 mph, so thank you Naperville.

    • @ww32
      @ww32 Рік тому +2

      We are slowly clawing our way back up

    • @Dankleberrrrg
      @Dankleberrrrg Рік тому +13

      @@ww32 we may even reach 80 mph in 20 years

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren Рік тому +2

      Why not 80. 79 is such a weird number

    • @Taschenschieber
      @Taschenschieber Рік тому +15

      @@MrJimheeren Because the law says you need a train protection system for speeds of 80mph and above, and you will notice that 79 is the biggest whole number below 80. (Which they say on the podcast at 23:55.)

    • @William-Morey-Baker
      @William-Morey-Baker Рік тому +2

      ​@@MrJimheeren just a guess, but i imagine it prevents people from "only speeding a little bit" because going from 79 to 80 is visually obvious and hard to miss, where as if they put the limit at 80, whats 82 gonna hurt?

  • @pearceburns2787
    @pearceburns2787 Рік тому +35

    Only 'Well There's your Problem' reduces everyone to a baby-like slumber in 4 hours or less.

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid Рік тому +6

      I like to check the comments at bedtime to add some likes and replies to boost engagement. It's parasocial but healthier than twitter.

    • @RatPfink66
      @RatPfink66 Рік тому +3

      i fell asleep on the Exposition Flier and woke up in Texas City after the blast.

    • @_allegra
      @_allegra 3 місяці тому

      I'll put an ep on when I go to bed pretty regularly.
      Not that it's boring - it's a comfort listen (I binged when I was in a really bad place mental health-wise, so there's an association between WTYP & peace), and all the hosts' voices are at a nice, soothing pitch for me.

  • @TheShortStory
    @TheShortStory Рік тому +30

    As someone who edits video as part of my job, I have to say Devon is doing the Lord's work and their creative contributions elevate the podcast to new heights.

  • @adams3627
    @adams3627 Рік тому +17

    When Safety Third started and I saw the meat-slicer pop up, a deep and powerful feeling of dread bubbled up in my stomach

  • @newsjunkie7135
    @newsjunkie7135 Рік тому +5

    German here. The German word for "design" is "design". I think most people would say "designt" (pronounced like "designed"), but "gedesignert" also sounds good to me.

  • @rookiek1315
    @rookiek1315 Рік тому +13

    I received notice of this episode while in the Museum of Science and Industry, having taken the BNSF through Naperville. Excellent timing

  • @warmachine5835
    @warmachine5835 Рік тому +16

    Devon, thank you for the Miles counter on this derailed podcast about derailments. I lost my shit every time.

    • @warmachine5835
      @warmachine5835 Рік тому +2

      Also, now that I've finally gotten around to finishing this--I was on the safety committee for a grocery store for my last few months in that industry. I didn't really need more incentive to stringently follow safety regs, but its always nice to hear first hand accounts from my seniors of shit they've seen as an object lesson to why we do all these inspections and pitch a tent inside the asshole of anyone who isn't complying with them.

  • @Mini_Celeste
    @Mini_Celeste Рік тому +6

    It must be said, we need an episode with both Miles AND Gareth as guests at the same time. It'd be perfect in every way.

  • @rowansinger3876
    @rowansinger3876 Рік тому +25

    All the ❤ to Devon, fantastic edits and side notes all through.

  • @LifesNeverHumDrum
    @LifesNeverHumDrum Рік тому +10

    I definitely interpreted “Miles trying to get back on track” as a distance and not the person, one of those moments where I heard a word but reading it doesn’t register as the same thing. So I just took it as a cute joke about derailing the podcast, like “we’ve gone several miles away from the subject of the pod”. Oops.
    Regardless Ty Devon, the casino jackpot noise got me, and the audio track receipts 😂

  • @ValerieEnriquez
    @ValerieEnriquez Рік тому +34

    As someone from Illinois who lives in Massachusetts, I can't tell you how confused I was when I found out about Quincy, IL vs Quincy (Quinzy), MA. Then again we also have Athens (Aythens), IL vs Athens, GA and Cairo (Cayro), IL vs Cairo, Egypt. Illinois is a strange place. Not least of all Pekin, IL, whose high school mascot used to be the Ch*nks because Pekin/Peking.
    Also, yes please to having Shocks on the podcast, perhaps for some maritime disaster.

    • @jsrodman
      @jsrodman Рік тому +9

      Let me tell you about Delhi (dell HIGH), New York.

    • @BitterWillow
      @BitterWillow Рік тому +6

      What fucked me up the most as a Canadian was finding out about Moscow USA.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Рік тому +6

      As a Texan, I had been through Cut N' Shoot. A couple of years ago, I found Point Blank, and I know of Gun Barrel City.
      😳
      ...I've more recently read that Cut 'N Shoot was a sundown town.
      So presumably that was a prescription for what to do to _certain people._

    • @capsjukebox
      @capsjukebox Рік тому +5

      As a man who grew up in Chatham, IL I can confirm all these statements of Illinois’ weirdness
      Also New Berlin, IL being pronounced as if it’s one word (Newburlin)

    • @chedzeesheeda1019
      @chedzeesheeda1019 Рік тому +7

      Consider: Vurr-Sales Michigan.

  • @scout8145
    @scout8145 Рік тому +18

    I love Alice’s wholesome Anastasia story. I did have to rewind like 4 times in order to hear it, because of the triple crosstalk, but I wouldn’t have my WTYP any other way ❤️

    • @smatthewson2613
      @smatthewson2613 Рік тому +5

      Yeah, that totally emotionalised me, in a highly affirmative way, too.

  • @twiexcursori
    @twiexcursori Рік тому +6

    Alice: "Start a podcast with your friends"
    Liam: "Start a podcast WITH YOUR ENEMIES"

  • @Kokoshi
    @Kokoshi Рік тому +6

    Miles said the aviation industry didn't do anything like retrying the accident. But they did 8 years after this disaster with British aviation on trial. The first intercontinental jet airliner, Comet went through 2 fatal & publicized disasters. Since this is 1954 and the best thing vacuum tubes could compute were decrypting German war communiques & Fallout style clocks, so that wouldn't do. So de Havilland (the original one with Mosquitoes, not the equally cool one right now flying Beavers & Twin Otters and your welcome for that image) grabbed a fuselage of their Comet & dunked it into a giant tub of water which filled & emptied for thousands of flight cycles (takeoffs AND landing flights, Indy) until metal fatigue replicated the doomed flights. But tough luck, as many lost faith in Britain (until the Beatles showed up) & were replaced by Screaming Eagles with blazing Tommy guns 'Murica with the Boeing 707 (yeah, Tex barrel rolled it as a sales pitch, so what?) and the DC-8 (first commercial airliner to break the sound barrier and survive & future Cold War relic freighters, good morning UPS & DHL vets).
    That said, we could go to WTYPP turf & talk how the first incarnation of Piper literally drowned when Hurricane Agnes flooded the Susquehanna River & washed away the Piper Factory in Lock Haven, Pennsylvania. After losing many tooling for aircraft building, they did the stereotypical thing (of that era) for anything over 45 would do in Pennsylvania & move everything to Florida. But before they tasted that delicious bath salt, they donated their waterlogged aircraft to NASA which used an old Apollo landing mechanism to test aircraft safety improvements with a fast recording camera, a bit of luck, & Newtonian pendulum motion to simulate a pilot 'having a good time' with the good earth for many years at their Langley facility.

    • @InterurbanEra
      @InterurbanEra Рік тому +3

      Oh! Yes, I oddly did know about the "Comet in the Bathtub" but in this case, if we're doing direct testing equivalents, they aren't putting pilots in direct danger by taking the Comet up to altitude with a full flight crew and trying their hardest to recreate the mid-air disaster. It's one of the great aviation stories, and worthy of its own WTYP episode if it hasn't been done already. It's such a cool story of practical engineering and forensics to solve a problem.

    • @Kokoshi
      @Kokoshi Рік тому +2

      @@InterurbanEra Very true! It's an ingenious pre-computer era simulation, especially in an era where proper aircraft disaster investigation was still in its infancy. Most accident recreations are done in the simulators, but there are some in the past where the factors were something new that the simulators couldn't faithfully recreate. So there are some where pilots dared to risk it to recreate the crash factors (albeit with witnesses, recording equipment, sensors, etc.). The ones I can remember, of the top of my head, where a few done by in 737s to figure out about the uncommanded rudder action which destroyed many 1st & 2nd gen 737s (a WTYPP episode onto itself). Others have flown recreating icing conditions with a KC-135 blowing water at them in cruising altitude. I need to confirm it, but NASA pilots purposefully flew into wind shear conditions to confirm if it killed some Delta, Pan Am, et al. flights.

    • @InterurbanEra
      @InterurbanEra Рік тому +2

      @@Kokoshi I'd love to see the (most likely high end color film) of them testing that! Set it to stone analog synth music and you've got a great homage to discovery Wings

  • @ww32
    @ww32 Рік тому +21

    So if any of you here watch Hyce's channel he used to work at BNSF's shops in Seattle, now for the Colorado RR Museum, and in one of his his last videos he was just like "yeah they tipped over two of my old locomotives (BNSF 2104, 2827)," I just thought that was kinda sad.

  • @yakovgolyadkin
    @yakovgolyadkin Рік тому +5

    That Safety Third gave me flashbacks to the brief time I worked at Whole Foods in the "prepared foods" section. They put me in the little counter that served up the premade pasta salads and shit, but on like my third day, someone was off somewhere and there was a line at the charcuterie counter, so my manager sent me over to deal with it. I had never used that machine before and there were no gloves of any kind, and they told me I needed to either go figure it out or quit. There's a reason I say the time I worked there was brief.

  • @hpalpha7323
    @hpalpha7323 Рік тому +68

    Devon is now the main character of the podcast

  • @effluviah7544
    @effluviah7544 Рік тому +5

    The little pings to alert to Devon Commentary set off my misophonia so badly, but I still love Devon. The ear pain and instinctive panic is worth it lmao

  • @samiyarossini
    @samiyarossini Рік тому +14

    Devon's editing/quips are A+

  • @MarchHare49
    @MarchHare49 Рік тому +7

    Re: Safety Third- used to be a deli clerk, never did like the Meat Destroying Saw; felt like a good reminder that 'you're made out of this too, jackass'. ... This machine knows the difference between metal and flesh, and it *likes* flesh, y'know? Anyway managers are universally way too careless about the digit remover and that is why I jumped tracks to decorating cakes as soon as the opportunity presented itself- a baked good has never made me feel in danger of traumatic injury.

    • @RatPfink66
      @RatPfink66 Рік тому

      what's the best typo you ever made lettering a cake?

  • @lhaviland8602
    @lhaviland8602 Рік тому +7

    This one really puts the "That is itself an engineering disaster" in "A podcast about engineering disasters that is itself an engineering disaster"

  • @dappercyborg7697
    @dappercyborg7697 Рік тому +9

    This safety third reminded me of the time the apprentice at my work set himself on fire…. I should probably write that up

  • @seth5362
    @seth5362 Рік тому +42

    1:46:30 My father did get part of his pinky sliced off in a meat slicer when he was working at a butcher at 13.
    I can only assume that they didn't have regulations in the 1960s since they were allowing a 13 year old to use the industrial meat slicer. Amputations build character.

    • @sweetprimrose
      @sweetprimrose Рік тому +5

      I almost lost a big hunk of my thumb on a meat slicer in a powerfully safety 3rd arsed butcher deli on what was probably an antique slicer, Now I'm not 13 but I'm as tall as one in a place set up for a 6f 5 dutchman, it was on the back of a table too tall for me and there was no barrier between me and my hand and a half side of bacon. Luckily, the ER was LITERALLY across the road in a place with free healthcare.

    • @davidwright7193
      @davidwright7193 Рік тому

      Or it could be Arkansas in 2023. Thank you Braindead Barbie for bringing child exploitation into the 21st century.

    • @unicorn4031
      @unicorn4031 Рік тому +1

      I work in a grocery store and a former employee in the deli lost a small piece of his thumb to one of those slicers. Which is why I will not work in the deli. 😡

    • @CopenhagenRayne
      @CopenhagenRayne Рік тому +2

      prettty sure that sort of stuff would be covered by the FLSA from 1938, so fairly certain it was already illegal then, kids were not allowed to use powered machine that could cause serious harm

    • @danielled8665
      @danielled8665 Рік тому +4

      I once dropped a tomato slicer while I was working at Tim Hortons and my dumb ass decided to catch it. By the rows of razor blades designed to easily and cleanly slice soft tomatoes on contact.
      My fingers looked like I tried to shake hands with Freddy Kreuger.

  • @hunger9
    @hunger9 Рік тому +15

    Roz should get an automatic feeder for the cats. Pizza Boy can go bite that instead.

  • @gravit8ed
    @gravit8ed Рік тому +32

    I delivered vermouth for a distributor in Oregon and I can tell you that it isn't one single thing or style of apertif, there are literally dozens of brands imported into the U.S. and most of them have some different take on the flavor profile than everyone else. You''ve also got specialty blenders, Lustau in particular sell single-maker small batch series that are nothing like our 'top seller' , Dolin, which only offers three 'dryness' levels and none of the bespoke blending from Lustau. There are probably a dozen mid-level offerings from associated producers that import under the same umbrella labels as well.

  • @Stjaernljus
    @Stjaernljus Рік тому +17

    white vermouth is good, keep it refrigerated, its very sweet.
    i once downed a large bottle of it infront of a cop yelling at me for underage drinking and public intoxication.

  • @Josiahiswatching
    @Josiahiswatching Рік тому +7

    You know, it’s gonna be a good episode when it starts with Liam and Alice getting into a no stakes argument

  • @jasonbates9906
    @jasonbates9906 Рік тому +14

    Devon's backseat podcasting is fantastic.

  • @piparalegal2019
    @piparalegal2019 Рік тому +7

    Thank you all for another entertaining podcast to brighten my day when my CRPS and fibromyalgia are conspiring against me to keep me in pain and miserable. Devon, your commentary never ceases to amaze me! It is brilliant; keep it up! Justin, I hope you have recovered from plague round three.

  • @ThePwnageHobo
    @ThePwnageHobo Рік тому +8

    Devon adds these little treats that audio-only podcast listeners just miss out on. The biggest tragedy in today's age is that these people will never know what they're missing. Like if cri evrtiem

  • @nblargh
    @nblargh Рік тому +9

    as a washington resident, i don't know how to pronounce half of the place names for the bits we stole either, it's all good

  • @molliemicrobe
    @molliemicrobe Рік тому +20

    If you use wine preserver (inert gas, usually argon, you spray in the bottle that sits on top of the liquid and prevents oxidization) in your vermouth and refrigerate it you can stretch it way past 1 month, I've got vermouths that have been open 2 or 3 months and are still totally good. Also if your Vermouth has actually spoiled, don't just pour it down the drain, you can still cook with it as you would with wine
    Also, French Vermouth is 1000% better than Italian, so grab yourself some Dolin Blanc, some Foursquare Probitas rum, and some Pierre Ferrand Dry Curaçao, and make yourself an El Presidente. The martini of Tiki drinks. Thank me later.

  • @logangagnepain7154
    @logangagnepain7154 Рік тому +5

    Devon is the most editor of all time.
    I love this person.

  • @nausium
    @nausium Рік тому +17

    I physically recoiled at Justin's pronounciation of Anacortes

    • @sleatersan
      @sleatersan Рік тому

      Oh man, I haven't gotten there yet and now I'm SO excited

    • @Hail_The_Fish
      @Hail_The_Fish Рік тому +2

      glad they didn't put a train on the ground in sequim

    • @joshuagreen3185
      @joshuagreen3185 Рік тому +2

      @@Hail_The_Fish Fun fact - there actually was a rail line through Sequim at one point! The Milwaukee Road had a line from Port Townsend out to Port Angeles that they served via rail barges. Sadly, it was abandoned in the mid-1980s and is now a rail trail.

    • @PersiRoberts
      @PersiRoberts Рік тому

      @@joshuagreen3185 That would be the Seattle and North Coast Railroad, with the baller old-school Supersonics colors and logo!

  • @craiglindecamp9589
    @craiglindecamp9589 Рік тому +4

    Devon putting random things into the slideshow is a game changer. Now I have to listen to the podcast at work and watch the UA-cam after.

  • @pennyforyourthots
    @pennyforyourthots Рік тому +5

    I've actually cut my finger on one of those deli slices before. They're so sharp that it doesn't actually hurt, but I had to have basically the entire tip of my left ring finger glued back onto my hand with medical strength super glue. I basically had to wait for my body to heal the tip of my finger back on, and even afterwards I had no feeling in the tip of that finger.
    I cannot recommend slicing off the tip of your finger in exchange for some pepperoni like it's a sacrifice to the old gods

    • @yourpalfred
      @yourpalfred Рік тому

      I had a shop teacher in high school who sliced off the very tip of his finger while using an exacto knife against a straight edge. It was in the 70s and not much of the tip, apparently, so they just let it heal! By the time he was my teacher in the 90s, he no longer had the ability to sense heat or cold in that finger. But he did have a great Safety Third for the beginning Shop students on the first day lol.

  • @germandog123
    @germandog123 Рік тому +10

    Alice making camera jokes so casually and with a niche specificity makes me feel seen lol

  • @thomhayes3170
    @thomhayes3170 Рік тому +27

    Holy crap an episode about the town I live in. This feels surreal.
    If you hang a right at the train station downtown, directly across the tracks from the old 5th Street station at an out-of-the-way point about halfway between the station and the RR traffic crossing (which is directly across from a really cool Frank Lloyd Wright house), you’ll see an interesting statue commemorating the wreck. Right by it is the one little area of the station’s parking lot (it’s a portion behind a wall) where the kids go to smoke and hook up in cars.

    • @RatchetSly
      @RatchetSly Рік тому +2

      It felt pretty weird to see my city in the Halifax Explosion episode, I know how ya feel

  • @jeremysmithslc
    @jeremysmithslc Рік тому +5

    I grew up in Naperville - living there or nearby for nearly 20 years (until the late 90's - ie before that wack memorial was put in) and this is the first I've ever hear of this incident. On many occasions I took the train in from Naperville station which I see is location just a few hundred ft from where this happened. Thanks for educating me on my own home town.

  • @melasn9836
    @melasn9836 Рік тому +5

    RE: The Safety Third - can confirm, at the supermarket deli where I worked, we were supposed to assemble/disassemble the machines and clean them with the metal gloves, but most of us (self included) didn't bother with that due to their awkwardness (also, it SUCKED when they got wet). Also, we weren't required to wear them when doing actual meat slicing like in the story. Kind of astonished now that no one lost any fingers during my 5 years there.

    • @silaskuemmerle2505
      @silaskuemmerle2505 Рік тому +2

      I currently work at one, and yeah, even if the cut gloves were required nobody would wear them. Where I work, we have plenty of pairs of crappy level 3 gloves (which the slicer could probably go right through to be honest) which are awful, but after one of the things bit me, I got a good pair of rubberized level 5 cut gloves.

  • @aquaguy34
    @aquaguy34 Рік тому +11

    Was thinking this morning about how y'all should cover this for an episode. Glad that wtyppod can read my mind

  • @kogure7235
    @kogure7235 Рік тому +5

    "Awh, train autism is so damn cute, especially when trans girls are involved"
    I think to myself as I sit here, painting my nails black with an e pill under my tongue
    ...... I'm also a train autism trans girl aren't I

  • @a.p.2356
    @a.p.2356 Рік тому +4

    As a Washingtonian, listening to East Coasters try to pronounce our place names makes me happy every time.

  • @triton199
    @triton199 Рік тому +5

    My dad worked on the milwaukee road and later on the SOO line and IC&E back in the 70s thru the mid 90s during the rock island lines and all the other bankruptcies. plenty of stories about running milwaukee power over the rock island lines with most of the route track limited to 5-10mph and watching the tops of the cars see-sawing back and forth several feet because nothing had been kept up for years. Add to that the fact that everybody was running wore out shit dating back to the 40s/50s well into the 80s and 90s. might start out the day with 7 locomotives and maybe 4 of them running by the time they got where they were going.

  • @emmab4281
    @emmab4281 Рік тому +5

    thats a terrifiyingly good 30s radio announcer

    • @InterurbanEra
      @InterurbanEra Рік тому +1

      Many years of watching old industrial films originally inspired by Mystery Science Theatre 3000 and later genuine interest. I also was hired to do the voice for a retelling of Flash Gordon a couple of years ago, which was fun!

    • @emmab4281
      @emmab4281 Рік тому +1

      @@InterurbanEra oh that's so so cool!

  • @tarasaurus98
    @tarasaurus98 Рік тому +5

    Thank you so much for posting this on the day I'm riding Metra to and from Naperville station

  • @Man2quilla
    @Man2quilla Рік тому +8

    I missed Alice being petty with the drops

  • @gwithheadphones
    @gwithheadphones Рік тому +4

    As a former deli worker, those machines are death traps. Within 5 minutes of my first shift they had me on a machine, slicing ham and hopefully not my fingers

  • @johnadams4427
    @johnadams4427 Рік тому +8

    Ayyy, if this is Naperville Illinois, can we get a mini bonus episode on the war my hometown (Wheaton) fought with them in the 1800s?
    It was over who got to be the Counry Seat- we won, which has cost us a shitton of money in hosting an increasingly-un-attended County Faire and the rights to a bunch of utterly unnecessary administrative garbage- there were I believe 17 casualties including 1 death when we raided their town hall for the deed in the middle of the night

    • @admiralrozhestvensky5189
      @admiralrozhestvensky5189 Рік тому +1

      I had absolutely no clue that this was even a thing that happened! As a native Napervilian myself I’m not too surprised though. Where should one look if they wanted more information on this dispute?

  • @tarasaurus98
    @tarasaurus98 Рік тому +3

    38:20 I was literally at MSI looking at it when this episode dropped! I'm now convinced y'all are psychics and making this show specifically for me and nobody else.

  • @keithpedersen3653
    @keithpedersen3653 Рік тому +2

    I am from Naperville! Will edit with comments:
    1. In Illinois, people either say ILL-in-oy or ELL-in-oy. Both are common - I can't say which is more popular.
    2. Older generations and south-siders tend to say shi-KAW-go, while the newer generations tend to use the high Midwestern-A and say shi-KAH-go.
    3. When is WTYP doing CSX 8888?
    4. In addition to the Zephyr you can walk inside, the MSI in Chicago has a fully restored Type IX U-boat you can walk inside.
    5. Naperville has more than one bronze tribute to the crash. Another is a large bronze map of Naperville outside the main library that labels the site.

  • @justicar5
    @justicar5 Рік тому +21

    everyone at SVB was insured to $250k...that is all they should have recieved. Dudebros need to suffer, VCs need to suffer, not a dime for them, have the bank collapse, and they loose everything.

    • @ferky123
      @ferky123 Рік тому

      The money was all there, it was just tied up in long-term Treasury Bonds. If the accounts were to not be made whole then some of the companies that banked there wouldn't be able to meet payroll or be able to pay for services rendered. Peter Thiel should just fuck right off.

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian Рік тому +4

      Also anyone putting more than 250k in a single account is really stupid. If you have more cash than 250k, you can just open another account.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer Рік тому +5

      Capitalism is supposed to involve risk for the capitalist. 🤬

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins Рік тому +2

    I've never seen a deli counter use chain mail gloves but hearing that such an option exists I can't believe they don't

    • @silaskuemmerle2505
      @silaskuemmerle2505 Рік тому +1

      The thing is they're a real pain in the ass, and if they're provided, they're generally a few levels below where they really need to be

  • @zman1508
    @zman1508 Рік тому +3

    If you guys want a fucking joke of a railway disaster the Granville railway disaster is an absolute mess. I've worked on that rail line for years and it's deeply depressing.

  • @andresribone4848
    @andresribone4848 Рік тому +10

    I miss the whistle voice of 2nd round covid Roz

  • @CassandraForAGlobalTroy
    @CassandraForAGlobalTroy Рік тому +2

    Just to be clear, the $250,000 insurance wasn't ever the only protection for depositors. When a bank goes into receivership, its assets are sold off and the claimants are repaid based on a set of rules in which the first priority for repayment is depositors.

  • @_-KR-_
    @_-KR-_ Рік тому +3

    1:10:20 Ive walked on tracks so many times but only once have I crossed **through moving freight** Ive crossed through stationary freight some, even with a bike. The trains had a bad habit of attempting to intirupt my commute on one particular marked crossing. I have also not yet lost any race with an engine though to be fair Ive backed down from a good few. But one time instead of waiting for the last mile of cars to pass at 5-8 mph I climbed up onto a car and passed between over the linkage to the other side. I managed to do this and hop off the other side successfully, but travelled a little farther than I expected in such a short amount of time; Nothin crazy just a few strides further than where I expected.
    The scariest part of it all was when I was over the car link I looked down and was struck with a very slight bit of vertigo while imagining how mulched I would be if I had slipped and fallen. Thankfully I had a good and firm hold onto the car railings feet be damned.
    5mph is faster than you think.

  • @laurenstewart9582
    @laurenstewart9582 Рік тому +4

    Planes do actually have their own form of bondo: its called speed tape and it’s just airplane duct tape and it is used,,, liberally on many commercial aircraft

  • @fanboycrossing
    @fanboycrossing Рік тому +3

    Came for the podcast, stayed for public shaming by Devon.

  • @Chemical7ree
    @Chemical7ree Рік тому +5

    I am totally up for a new Off the rails segment in the rotation

  • @__-jt4tv
    @__-jt4tv Рік тому +3

    17:40
    "We don't do it so well Alice"
    In fairness, here in the UK we still had 1950s era Class 20s in service into the 2020s, whilst a handful of early 1960s Class 37s are still around...
    Then not forgetting the 70s era Class 43s that have gone from fast passenger to 9000hp rolling stock movers...!
    ---
    Also, "got a little sleepy and put a train on the ground" probably isn't far out from how my uncle ended up leaving British Rail...

  • @odb_roc_hound4186
    @odb_roc_hound4186 Рік тому +1

    Safety Third: A guy I knew had a butcher shop, he told of a new guy(one of the gung-ho type that knows everything and is always in a hurry) after being shown how to operate the slicer, proceeded to try to set a record at slicing. After a couple minutes the butcher, grabbed the new guy by the shoulders, told him to turn off the machine, “now pick up your fingers.” Working with cold food, your fingers get cold and you don’t have as much feeling in them, he didn’t know he had amputated them.

  • @u805
    @u805 Рік тому +4

    Concerning the Safety Third: I used to work at a grocery store in the meat department, we had a slicer for cutting up things like bologna tubes for customers since we sold that there, however we couldn't use it for that because it was in the same room where raw meat is cut so it just took up space. Anyway this story is not about that but does show how sharp those blades are. In the deli a guy was cleaning one of their slicers for the day and thought the best way to do this was to take a rag and wipe along the top of the blade. The blade easily cut through the rag and over half way through one of his fingers, the machine wasn't even on. So he bled everywhere and had to go to the hospital but did eventually come back to work like a week later.
    It wouldn't be much of a Safety Third but I can also tell you that those old guys were nuts when it came using the band saw in the meat department without any of the safety equipment going insanely fast slicing incredibly thin slices of meat. There is so much in a meat department that will grievously injure you beyond the knives or the band saw.

    • @Athenor
      @Athenor Рік тому +2

      You have brought back long-dormant memories of how sometimes the meat slicers would get gummed up with cheese, which would then harden as the night went on... so when it came time to clean them and we were in a hurry, we'd sometimes use a knife pressed against the spinning blade, like a scraper. The cutting blade on a deli slicer's only exposed at the edge that contacts the meat, where you basically pull the meat backwards into the slicer. This particular exposed edge rotates counter-clockwise (anti-clockwise) so it points downward and helps eject the meat. Naturally, this means that the scraping blade needs to be facing upwards, and held at a particular angle. Thinking back, I'm struck by the fact that the only time I got sliced open was on some sharp sheet metal in the deli display case when I was cleaning it out one night.

  • @adamevans1989
    @adamevans1989 Рік тому +7

    Vacuum your vermouth bottles, people. Also, Liam needs to try a cocktail with Antica Formula in it. That shit slaps

  • @personaderuso3459
    @personaderuso3459 Рік тому +5

    this is by far the most sleepy episode of WTYP

  • @KiwiTheIguana
    @KiwiTheIguana Рік тому +1

    Dev, I cannot overstate how much I appreciate your additions. Also the thing you started doing in the last(?) episode where you have the hitmarker noise whenever you put in text is great for someone who usually listens to the pod while painting or playing games.

  • @Skullair313
    @Skullair313 Рік тому +4

    Going 79 miles per hour (~127 kph) without an automatic train stop is bonkers oven on it's own.
    Most infrastructure operators (at least in western europe) only allow like 30 mph without train stop, and only ~ 80 mph to ~ 100 mph with lower-tier automatic train control (like inductive train stop or coded track circuits).

  • @nadavpais-greenapple5669
    @nadavpais-greenapple5669 Рік тому +1

    y'all should do an episode about the Noronic and Hamonic, two Great Lakes passenger liners which catastrophically (and predictably) burned in the 50s or 60s in almost identical situations, which basically ended the passenger ship industry on the lakes for decades. love the show!

  • @zechsblack5891
    @zechsblack5891 Рік тому +3

    I "don't drink" but love making sodas that are basically bastard cocktails with no spirits. I've never spent more than 17 bucks on a bottle so I probably have never even had a good one. I stopped buying soda a while ago but a few times a week I want some bright crispy drink. As a means of self control I've kind of forced myself to make the soda if I want one which cuts down on how much of it I drink.
    Vermouth is super useful for adding a mysterious fruity base and for reducing bitterness. White vermouth, quinine tonic, lime, and sometimes coconut cream and ango makes for a great little refreshing drink.
    The vermouth adds this nice fruit backing that makes it taste less like glass etching fluid.
    Sweet red vermouth, a questionably large volume of ango or cacao bitters, cranberry (the fuck you 100% stuff that makes you pucker) as the base, sometimes pomegranate or cherry juice, and some tonic is also a nice one.

  • @maddiepaige715
    @maddiepaige715 Рік тому +9

    Rolling stock is famously similar to that one weird breed of goat. They just fall over if you startle them.

  • @Not_an_alligator
    @Not_an_alligator Рік тому +2

    Funny you guys mentioned it, I have to walk through the Steel Bridge railroad crossing on the way to work every morning. I get stuck there waiting for freight trains to cross at least once a week and they do indeed go that slow