Ruger Mark IV vs Smith & Wesson model 41
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- In this video I compare two popular .22 rimfire pistols to illustrate which one is best for target shooting, hunting and general outdoor use. Both the Ruger Mark IV, and the Smith & Wesson model 41 are superbly accurate .22's, but which one is best suited for you. I hope to provide that answer in this video.
My Model 41 is one of my all time favorite firearms. I was able to buy it from my Boss’s estate after he passed which makes it even more special to me. He was a wonderful human being and the 41 reminds me of him every time i pick it up.
Nice story. I'm sure your boss would be proud to know you cherish something from him, especially his memory.
The model 41 is a work of art.
I agree with you about the mk iv trigger . I bought and installed the complete Volquartsen trigger replacement kit with hammer, sear, connector and trigger and it’s like day and night difference . My model 41 is the Performance Center model and it is the best 22 pistol I’ve ever owned. It’s like a Swiss watch and is a beautiful pistol. Head to head my S&W is the best shooter though my modified Ruger is close and it’s because of upgrading the trigger. My best shooting Ruger is my 2003 MK II Olympic competition 5 1/2” slab side . The factory trigger is excellent. Great truthful video!
You have a problem with the ruger triger pull as some trigger pull can make the difference and with the ruger you pull to the right so S&W you shoot better I have seen both guns shoot head to head and it’s a tie most times
@guns4fun I feel the exact same way about a ruger security 6 I got after my brother in law passed absolutely cherish that thing right there along with my grandpas side by side shotty and his old Marlin bolt action 22 definitely not my most valuable guns but those would be the first 3 I’d grab heaven forbid RIP gentleman love and miss you every day
FINALLY!!!! someone that does a review and uses a rest to do some testing, what is the point of an off hand accuracy test?? and at 20 yards ! most of these You Tube muppets test at 10 yards, I have a mk 4 and all of your comments are spot on, it shoots a 1in group at 25m with CCI std ammo, great video and keep up the good work, I love the format and the fact you are down to earth and not playing ego games, thank you.
Thanks for the comments. I appreciate that you see that I am trying to give viewers a fair test of both guns, with equal comparisons. A rest does take much of the human factor out of the equation.
I bought my first Ruger in 1985. They are very rugged and well made pistols. In fact, I love their single action revolvers. But, in almost every other handgun platform, I find the Smith and Wesson’s are far more refined, more ergonomic, and more aesthetically pleasing. I realize this is totally subjective and others may have a different viewpoint.
I tend to agree. I own four Smith & Wesson's of various calibers and styles, and all of them just melt into my hand, and the triggers are what triggers are supposed to be.
I mostly agree, and I love Ruger’s and have several. But in a .22, the Ruger Mark series is the benchmark, other than in seriously high end, out of the reach of the casual shooter, .22 target pistols. The Mark IV is awesome. Like all Ruger’s, some people feel the need to upgrade everything, but out of the box, they are more than adequate.
Yes nice is why I haven’t bought a mOdel 41 my Ruger get code enough for me I am not a professional I just hunt .
I wonder how the other Smith's shoot and function? (22lr victory and mp22)
We all have our favorite , but I have different makes an models and I’m really always impressed by all of them
I have a slab side competition model Ruger and absolutely love it!!!! I’ve always wondered how these two guns stacked up against each other and thanks for the test!!! I run CCI 36 grain mini mags and have NEVER had one misfire!!!!
Very nice video, and thorough comparison. Nice job showing everything so clearly.
Thanks. I appreciate your comments.
I keep watching these videos about the 41. I’ve had one for probably 8 years but never fired it. I have other 22 pistols that are everyday shooters, so I thought I’d save it as an investment ( it was $1200 out the door brand new) but since S&W appears to plan on continuing production it doesn’t seem it’s a good bet on significant appreciation. This thorough video is the final straw breaking my refusal to shoot it. Well done comparison, hopefully you don’t mind being responsible for the termination of multiple squirrels at my farm:)
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I finally found a vintage model 41 a couple years ago, a friend of mine has a gun shop and I told him if he ever got one to call me. He called and said I have something you want! I went over and about freaked out! It was in the original box with paperwork. Perfect condition. He said make an offer, he wanted $1500, I got it for $1375 and was happy to get it! The 41 is a work of art! I own Woodsman’s, a match target, high standards, Rugers. The 41 is my favorite in my collection!
That's great!
You seems like a great guy. I like ammo test videos, lets face it that's one of the most important parts that make shooting enjoyable. (accuracy and function) Thanks for the video!
Those model 41s are so nice and so are the old woodsmans and Hi standards but for the money it’s really hard to beat the value of the Rugers.
Nicely done review. I have a Model 41 that I bought new in 1965. Plus a Ruger Mk3 and a S&W Victory ( with Volquartsen grips and a Tactical Solutions barrel. All of these are better at being a gun than I am at being a shooter. Lots of fun for sure.
I appreciate your comments. Thanks.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsmanare you sure I can buy one as of now and where. Let me know please
I bought mine on Gunbroker. If you want a new one, they are listed there as well.@@craigfinley2507
Freaking year I was born.
Great last line there!
Have owned and shot most every brand of 22 rimfire over past 70 years, Have shot for fun and for money and in my opinion you just can't beat a Ruger.
I’m shopping for one of these pistols, thanks for the excellent review.
I love your video. Maybe it’s because I am older too, and don’t relate to the younger reviewers. Nice shooting. I have a MK4 that I recently bought to get back into the sport of target shooting and appreciate your video.
I know how you feel about that my friend.
Really enjoying your videos, particularly the 22 ones. I owned a mk2 ruger slab side for a few years. Didn’t really bond with that gun and sold it. Picked up a ruger mk2 50th anniversary for $150 when they came out in 1999. Love that pistol. Just found a used s&w model 41 and waiting for it to get here. Always wanted one and you were the catalyst to go for it. 😬🤠
I guess I'm' just a bad influence. I hope you enjoy the 41 at least as well as your Mk 2.
Outstanding video, thanks. The quest for the particular ammunition for the pistol or rifle of choice seems to never end. So far, my search has found CCI standard velocity and the German produced WOLFF .22lr not the ELEY match pistol seems to preform to my expectations for match grade results in my High Standard Supermatic Citation, Colt Woodsman match target series2, Ruger Mk2 match and S&W 41's and more .22 rifles, too many to mention here.
I enjoy watching your video and the great target range you have. I have not shot the 41 but I'd pick the 41 over Ruger MK IV. I once had a Ruger MK II, it's a perfect pistol with nothing to complain about, a couple of years ago I bought a MK IV, it came with a design defect and a front sight drilled off center.
I love .22 firearms! Great video! I love the Ruger MK series but you have me considering the S&W. Thanks for the video.
You’ve done it again, great video comparison of two of my all time favorites. I have a Mark II Competition Target and a 41 that is identical to yours. While the Ruger is nothing to sneeze at, the outcome was not a surprise. I broke down a few years back and added two classics to my collection, the 41 and a pristine 6 inch S&W Model 17. I believe we both share a love for .22 firearms, rifles and handguns. I also have another .22 favorite, the S&W models 422, 622, and 2206 which I refer to as the “poor man’s 41.” I have owned a number of these over the years and just can’t seem to separate myself from them. If you own any of these models, I would like to see a review of them. Again, great job, your channel has become my #1 channel on UA-cam.
I once owned a S&W 422, but ended up selling it. I am on the hunt for a S&W Model 17, and/or the Colt Diamondback, but I'm sure I'll have to fork over some serious dollars for either one. I had the chance to get a Model 17 about 2 years ago, but I was a bit too late. I still own a 6 inch Charter Arms Pathfinder in blued steel and walnut grips. It's not a S&W but a great little revolver by todays standards. Not too long ago I picked up a S&W model 14 Masterpiece in 38 special. I got it for $300 and was smiling all the way home. It is a 6 inch model with highly polished bluing, goncalo-alvez grips, pinned barrel with wide trigger and wide hammer spur. A real gem that shoots "lights out". After reading your posts, I am convinced that we are on the same page in terms of hunting, shooting, and guns in general. I'm still just having fun making these videos, so it's nice to see that you enjoy watching them. Thanks again Wayne.
Great deal on that Model 14. My first centerfire handgun was a Model 15 Combat Masterpiece, still have it. The FFL I deal with received a Model 17 today that he’s been looking for for awhile, the 8 3/8 inch version. I sure would like to meet you in person someday, I’ve got a feeling we’d have a lot of common interests to share. You sure hooked me on those Remington 581’s.
@@waynejenkins6259 Maybe we can arrange that some day. Perhaps if I go to east Tennessee for a turkey hunt. I understand you are somewhere in Virginia, so maybe we can meet up somewhere along the line. I have always wanted to go grouse hunting, so I would have to go eastward of my location. Maybe some day in the fall?
Had a Mark III Slab side, fully polished with Pachmayer grips, Buris scope and Volquarsten trigger kit, a blast to shoot at 100yds., wish I still had it, enjoy yours!!!
Fantastic shooting and well put together video.
Thanks for your comments.
I bought my m 41 in the early 80'S, and never looked back. Carried it on the trap line for decades, and it was always right there when I needed it.
In the mean time, I've owned a plethora of .22 handguns, including Rugers, but none have come close to the Smith. Until now. I splurged, and bought the MK 4 Hunter. Well, the factory's rear sight was way out of whack to the west, so I gave it a chop to the east. That helped some, but I was a little soured on the gun because of it. Then I ran into a relative with a MK4, and he had put a reflex sight on his, along with the Volquartsen trigger. It was great! So I did the same. A world change! The Volquartsen trigger gets you down to 2 lbs. Fantastic! Between the trigger and the reflex sight, the Ruger MK 4 now rubs noses with the Smith 41, Awesome! If you go for a MK 4, definitely spend the extra loot for the Volquartsen trigger. (It's not simple to install, but they will do that for you for a reasonable up-charge.) Well worth the loot, and you'll have a pistol that rivals the Smith, and for much less money.
That's some great advice. I may have to do the same with my MK4.
My first handgun purchase was a blued 6 1/2” Ruger Single-Six. LOVE it. I would like a pistol as well. Trying to decide between these two.
I've owned a ruger mk2 target 5.5 inches barrel for 29 years now my thought is Say When
thanks for the demo, looking for a Ruger hunter model
A good friend of mine has the hunter model, and he loves it.
First video of yours I've seen and it's very interesting. Over the years, I've owned and shot Ruger, S&W, Colt and Browning. All are good guns, I kept my 41, wife prefers her Colt Match Target, youngest son Browning and oldest son Ruger Target...
All very fine guns. Enjoy them whenever you can.
I just bought the Ruger mark 4 target 5.5” blued barrel. I put a 2x6 scope on it and a Volquartsen trigger. This is a great set up for squirrels. I plan to use it at LBL this fall. We hunt with Feist dogs and that will be fun. I enjoy watching all your videos.
That is interesting. I have thought of installing a lighter trigger on my Ruger. BTW, I live about 30 minutes from LBL, but have never hunted there. Are you in Tennessee or Kentucky?
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I’m from Southeastern Ky but hunt the LBL 2-3 times each squirrel season. I haven’t been there after the tornado but hear lots of downed trees. If you would like to go sometime with the squirrel dogs you are welcome to come hunt a day with us. I’m 74 now but still able to hunt by the grace of the good Lord.
Just bought The S&W 41 and as a former match shooter, I could not be more impressed with the accuracy. Mine is an older model and is not set up a scope or red dot.....but soon will be!
Wow amazing accuracy with both guns. I would be happy with either one.
Both awesome guns but I love my old hi standards talk about a beautiful trigger
I have a Mk2 stainless 6 7/8" target that I bought new in 1986. Paid 208$ tax and all back then. I did a trigger job on it, and pull weight is about 1.5 lbs.. The accuracy is outstanding with match ammo. Prices have gone up a lot since then. LOL You have some fine pistols there. Nice video.
Great content! I hope to get a model 41 soon.
Nice shooting and video CO! Thanks for sharing. I personally have found that Ruger and other companies put out products that you can modify for "better" accuracy and performance in conjunction with aftermarket support from companies like volquartzen. It's all a marketing strategy for us to spend more money to achieve the same thing we get from old guns like the S&W 41. Just my opinion and experience. Happy Father's Day weekend! 👍🙏🇺🇸💪
Quite right. The one gun that came to mind when I read your post was the Ruger 10/22. You can literally re-build it with aftermarket parts.
ruger accuracy is there out of the box. but for most people to achieve the accuracy potential you need a trigger kit.about 150 dollars . a blued mark four can be had four under 500. 650 vs 1350 four the smith.i have a 2500 dollar pardini still can't shoot it any better that my ruger with a trigger job. you can put a volquartzen mark2 to kit in a mark 3 and probably a mark four. it take mag safety out.i think part that has to be added.allthough still looking at the 41 though
Not going to tear apart a model 41 and fit it with optics, grips etc for steel challenge. That's what the ruger is for.
Great video. A little slow, but everything was well covered and easy to understand. Will probably go with the model 41 pc, for the integrated rail. Thanks for your time, friend.
Love my victory with a tandem cross trigger and volsquarten barrel. Hard to beat.
As a young man I owned a High Standard semi auto pistol. (Disclaimer: I don’t advise doing what is described here, I was rather foolish, but it was still pretty safe). I was at the range one time, nobody else there, and somebody had left a three inch diameter steel pipe leaning vertically against the embankment of the 100 yard range. I sat down and leaned my back against one of the 8 x 8s that was holding up the shelter of the firing range, resting my forearms on the inside of my thighs. Using iron sights, nothing added to the gun except a factory weight beneath the barrel, and just a standard box of ammo, I was hitting that pipe 70-80 percent of the time, sometimes four and five times in a row. The pipe was ringing with each impact letting me know I had connected. In the meantime, somebody else had arrived and was getting set up, and he was flat amazed at what was going on. He inquired as to the make of pistol I was using. “Oh, it’s a High Standard I traded for,” I replied. I inherited my father’s primo Colt Targetsman about forty years later. He never shot it, and had it in his travel trailer. It’s a sweetheart. It is as new, bought back in the Seventies.
Thanks for sharing that story. I am always amazed at just how accurate the .22 rimfire can be.
I would love to add either one of these fine pistols along side my Browning Challenger. I got say that Ruger Competition is a thing of beauty.
Great review i have had both these pistols. Ruger mk 4 recently good but not great . S&W 41 some years ago excellent wish i never sold it .
Might buy a new one soon.
I have the same results with the CCI std volocity! Great 22 lr ammo!
Looks like fun! I like the S&W 41 too! I have the M&Ps!
The mod 41 smith was unbelievable that I got to shoot,and I own mark 2,and I own a mark 4 ,both are the very best,but 3 for the price 1 is a no brainer,all take the mark 4 all day long,i just ordered volquartsens compitition kit and a volquartsens. Target grip,can't wait to see how much better it shoots.
I am seriously thinking of installing a trigger kit in my Mk IV. I know it will be easier to shoot more accurately with a lighter trigger, and it is capable of amazing precision. I'm certain you will love yours. Let us know how it goes.
Great video Smith & Wesson says not to use high velocity ammo it could damage the Model 41
Have had several of each over the years. Still have 2 older mod 41s actually what you get with a 41 is a good trigger. My opinion is my rugars shoot every bit as good as the mod 41s. Just need a good trigger in the rugars.
I have an old MK 1 and a newer MK 11 stainless slab side. I would love to be able to hunt with them.
You do a absolutely great job on your videos sir! Which one would you recommend for squirrel hunting?
Nice shooting. I'm impressed.
Thanks for the video.
You are quite welcome.
Great video thanks!
The model 41 S&W is like a Mercedes Benz and the Ruger Mark IV is like a F150 pickup truck. And the cost difference is comparable.
Check out the Weig-A-Tinny mount for that 41. I have several of Jacks rails. Best made rail you'll find!
I met a very nice man at the range who let me shoot his S&W 41 which had a 9oz trigger, i put 2 shots right in the bullseye ! Amazing gun but a little expensive for me.
I just purchased a Mark IV 22/45 Tactical and it shoots very nice but I think the trigger pull makes it harder to be as precise as I was with the S&W 41. I do have a Volquartsen trigger with a 2.25lb pull supposedly arriving any day ... hoping that will make the Mark IV a little easier to be accurate with.
I’ve Never Owned or Shot a S&W Model 41 But Have Handled a Couple There Very Nice Smooth Operating Pistols 🔫🔫🔫 My Go To Target Pistol is My Colt Woodsman Match Target Series 3 or my High Standard Supermatic Citation Model 103 But My Fun Pistol is My 1950 Ruger Standard Pistol I Love All My 22’s I May End Up With a S&W Model 41 Someday 😀 Thanks For This Informative and Very Interesting Video Looked Like You Really Had Fun Making This Video 😀😊😎👍🏼
The Colt Woodsman is another pistol I would like to own some day. They are very fine guns indeed. Another one from Colt is the Diamondback, and along with the Colt Python is a very desirable gun to own. They are extremely expensive though. Thanks for watching, and your comments.
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Just bought a new blued 5.5” mark4. But with my old eyes I will be putting a compact 1X scope and better trigger in it. Great pistol.
I still have the Ruger Mark I Target bought for $57.00 in an adjacent state just before the NFA of 1968 went into effect. I was 17, but nobody asked as it didn’t matter. I have two model 41s the 1961 version is very particular about the magazine. As stated model 41s have interchangeable barrels even between early ones and recent cnc manufactured ones.
I have the hunter, beautiful pistol and takedown on the mark IV is a farcry from the I,II,III
The S&W Model 41, in either length barrel, was without doubt the finest .22cal handgun ever made in the USA. Modelled closely on the Walther Olympia of the late 1930s, and then on the Hammerli 208, it was, when introduced, a masterpiece of fine engineering, and remains so even now. I have no reason to doubt that S&W lost money on every one they made, being so much different to anything else on the US market. It was then, and remains, alone at the pinnacle of US firearms manufacturing expertise.
These are both excellent guns. The Ruger is built like a tank, and often will take many decades of very hard use to break. I consider it one of the best gun designs ever. It needs to have a competent gunsmith to tune the trigger though. But once that is done, it will be good enough for almost all shooters. Only the best of the really good shooters can use the advantge a modern pistol, like a Pardini or Feinwerkba, will give you. To dry fire a .22, cut a small strip from a bicycle inner tubing, and place that on the breach face.
This is a GREAT video. Thank you for doing this. I do have some questions. I'm interested in getting started in target shooting at a shooting range, but am not sure if I want to shoot competitively. Would you recommend going ahead and getting one of the high-end models from this video or going with something like the Ruger Standard Mark IV or one of the Browning Buck Marks? I guess I'm asking if it is worth the extra money for someone who will probably just do hobby shooting at a target range once a week. Thank you again for your good work.
In terms of inherent accuracy, there is not much difference between the Ruger mark series pistols and higher end guns like the Colt Woodsman, Browning Buckmark, or the S&W model 41. You can get trigger kits for the Rugers, and install them or have a gunsmith install them. This will make the pistol shoot better for you at the range. The S&W 41 is more expensive, but if you can find one used at a reasonable price, and in good condition, it is well worth it. Great triggers, well designed sights, in-hand feel and balance, overall fit and finish, attention to detail, etc. I really can't explain how sweet the 41's are, you just have to shoot one to know what I'm talking about. Thanks for the comments.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Thanks! The S&W 41 sounds amazing!
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman that colt you are talking about was one good shooting pistol.
Beagleman
Excelente video, considero mas precisa la Smith & Wesson y en especial el modelo con cañón de 7/38 de pulgada
Thank You Sir!😊
Was debating whether Mark 4 or Model 41. Ended with MK 4: 1. Cost, Ruger is way cheaper, 2. Can dry fire Mark 4, 3. Easy disassemble/assemble, 4. Mark 4 is plenty accuracy for me.
That's great! I always like to hear about someone making the right choice for themselves. Congratulations sir.
Glad to see you shoot Mini Mags in your M41. Lot of people are convince this gun should only shoot SV.
I like that Redfield scope for my .44 Mag! Would it hold up?
I had a mark 1 and now have a mark2. Both excellent pistols
Thank You . Great vidio . Steve from Ohio.
Nicely done, sir. So refreshing to stumble on a channel with no hype, just good info presented with class (subbed now, of course, and looking forward to exploring more of your presentations). My first gun a Mark 1 bull barrel target model (5 inch, 5.25”? I forget which) bought in the mid-to-late 70’s which i still have - and yes, have developed some reasonable mastery of its devilish disassembly (not that hard really, you whiny spoiled sots! Haha. Would i like a nice Mark 4? Well DUH!.... Classics are nice though, which is what I'm rapidly becoming myself, euphemistically speaking ;)
I suppose i could hunt with it, even with its (relatively) abbreviated length barrel but being a city boy most of my life haven’t had much opportunity to try that - btw, what does squirrel taste like anyway? I’ve eaten rabbit, but don’t tell my now-adult kids that....they grew up with several of those fluff balls as pets and recoil (no pun intended) at the mere suggestion of ‘rabbit-cide’. 🥰🐰LOL
👍🏼Thanks for an elucidating and enjoyable video on the enduringly awesome, if puny, .22 cal and the superior firearms that make it a joy to shoot!
Yes indeed, time has a habit of slipping away on us all, and suddenly we find ourselves to be of senior citizen status. I hope you find my other videos enjoyable. Thank you for your support.
Excellent video. While both guns are great, that model 41 is truly a real gem.
I like the way how u are comparing und exampleing guns
At 33:49, that was an interesting thing to watch! My immediate impression was that the second group was bigger, but that the center of both groups was in the same place. That makes sense in retrospect! Also, I have the impression that the makers of these target pistols call for Standard Velocity ammunition, and I am trying to make that work personally. I have a lot of Mini-Mags that I THOUGHT were right for these things, but now don't think so. Too bad! Both pistols have easily changed recoil springs that are available, but higher velocity ammunition just seems wrong for target shooting. Ah, I have seen a version of the S&W one for sale that used .22 shorts! Well, I'll get back to you if I ever get everything working smoothly. Might be a while!
Thx for 22 dummy rd idea. Smart
Excellent video. Nice camera work. Too bad the Model 41 is so costly.
I recently bought a Performance Center Smith & Wesson Model 41. It’s very high quality, I have a Leopold Deltapoint Pro mounted on it and it’s a lot of fun on the range. Great video!
S&W 41's are legendary for a good reason. Yours will serve you well. Thanks for sharing.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman This is hands down the best pistol I’ve owned. I also have S&W Model 17 that I really enjoyed, I couldn’t tell you which one I like more because I really like revolvers too.
Luckily, my 41 has no problem with 36 grain high velocity rounds, there’s nothing in the owners manual that suggests it only takes standard velocity ammo. I feel very fortunate and both these guns will probably get passed down someday. Thanks for the reply!
@@mikem2132 You are a man after my own heart. S&W model 17's are right up there at the top of the...... (my) list as well. Two years ago I had the chance to get one at a bargain price, and I so stupidly let it go. I wish I had the chance again, and am on the lookout for one of these as well as a Colt Diamondback. Maybe some day.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I got my Model 17 at Guns.com, they have a good selection of used ones or the new model. The Colt Diamondback looks really nice, but I ended up going with the new Model 17 with the dreaded Hillary hole and I couldn’t be happier!
I also like to shoot a long gun on occasion and my go to is the Henry Golden Boy. Since the ammo shortage began, all I shoot is 22lr but I’ve still been having fun- have a nice day!
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The Model 41 is my favorite pistol. My Buckmark is my next favorite shooter. These guns are fun!!
Owning both a Ruger Mk IV Hunter and a S&W M41, I have always found the 41 to be consistently more precise. I try to work more with the Hunter and try to love it and get better with it but it never approaches what the 41 is capable of.
Same here. I leave 41 in the safe. It is almost like cheating .
Great walk through. Like you I prefer the classic looks of the 41. Seeing this video makes me want one. And seems out of the box it probably is the better match gun. However, i really liked the fair side by side comparison you gave as you can tell in the hands of equally skilled shooters the Ruger would definitely compete with the S&W. That said I actually one a Mark IV Ruger 22/45 Bull barrel. If you can't get a model 41 in your price range (big difference there as you point out), the Ruger is a very serviceable option. And has a following of it's own (lots of accessories, interchangeability, etc). And after a bit of of tuning is the performance differences are a bit lessened.
Ruger would compete with the s&w? Your confused, you have it backwards.
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You can't be serious can you? Talk about confused. SMH
Just offhand I would suspect you're inexperienced
Good comparison video. I have a Browning Buck Mark pistol that will hang right in there with both of these. It’s the same style pistol as both of these and is a true squirrel killer.
If I were to buy another .22 semi-auto pistol, it would be a Browning Buckmark. Great little pistols, and superb shooters. If I get one, I'll be doing another video comparing it to my other .22 handguns. Thanks for watching, and sharing.
I have have a buckmark and the Taurus competition model will shoot with it all day long I bought one and was so impressed by the Taurus that i bought another one that also shoots great and so simple to clean even I can do it.
Beagleman
The Buck Mark is a low quality comparIson as I own all three! Buck Marks are fairly accurate, but cheap materials and poorly finished!
I have two Taurus competition models I think that will outshoot either one of these pistols Taurus has made a lot of improvements in their pistols I can shoot a very small group at 35 yrds. I did have a redot scope when I shoot but you should try one especially at the price. I know what that Smith cost I have tried to find one. I think you would like the Taurus competition model. Good shooting bro keep up the good work.
Beagleman
Nice video. You may have convinced me to get a scope for my Ruger MK3 hunter. Take away? Use what your gun likes.
I have tried almost a dozen different types of 22LR out of my rifles to find one that shoots consistent groups at 50 yards. I now have each of three rifles marked to only shoot CCI standard. The other ammo, HV, sub-sonic, etc. all grouped like your demo of the Federal. The sub-sonic sometimes would not cycle my Ruger 10/22. The Remington Golden Bullet was just as good as the other but you always get a dud in the group. I put them aside for my bolt action. I need the 1.5 inch group at 50 yards consistently so CCI standard is my standard. I even tried the S-K flat nose that some have raved about but for me, it was not any better than the others and not worth the $10 for a box of 50. My rifles are low end that everyone can afford except maybe the Marlin 39A now.
Ahhh.....The Marlin model 39A. That is one rifle I have been on the lookout for. As time goes by those older classics get harder to find. Consider yourself fortunate to have one!
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Just lucky, it was handed down from a cousin many many years ago.
I'm really interested in the Ruger Mark IV with the 10" barrel. I think that would make an awesome camp/backpack gun. You could mount a scope or red dot for accuracy for taking small game.
great job
I have a Rugar ll, I use CCI mini mags for hunting. I have taken many woodchucks and squirrels with it.
Like your pod cast . Having been on the all army pistol team i had the opportunity to use both of these weapons. In competition shooting although we could only use 1 hand freeform and timed both shot really tight groups usually a good shooter could pue five rounds in a group that was almost the same hole. I prefered the model 41 i could shoot a tighter shot group with it and was more comfortable using it . Wish I could afford to buy one if anyone has an extra you can send it to me. Good shooting.
I have the model 41 and the mark III hunter, both equipped with red dots. I would rate the 41 just a little better 100 vs 98 both great semi automatic. I also have the S&W model 17 revolver, a great gun also.
Fortunate to have an original 41 and a 52! Both can outshoot most shooters….
I bought a used S&W 41 a few days ago in 99+% with a Trijicon RMR on it for $1000.00 As soon as I saw it, I knew I'd be buying it. I shot it the other day with some very old (15-20yrs old) bulk pack Remington Golden Bullet HV hollow points at 44 yards. I shot 2 back-to-back 3 shot groups of 1 1/4'' and 1 3/8''. I can only imagine how accurate this pistol will be when I shoot some actual target ammo through it. Do you have any recommendations for target ammo in the model 41?
Thanks for the great videos
I always had pretty good results with CCI Standard vel. I got some SK Semi-auto ammo, and I'll be trying it and several different loads in an upcoming video. Thanks for the comment.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Thanks for the info. I have a cople boxes of the CCI standard velocity to try in it. Looking forward to your next video
Goodnight. A $1500 MSRP on the model 41, whether 5" or 7" barrel. It's really 2x better than the Mark IV? Because the price is.
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
You should try shooting some of the High Standard pistols. I'm sure that you world be very pleased~!
high standard made a quality pistol
Well done sir.
I've owned rugar mark 1 used to shoot cotten balls off a tree with it but it got away from me. I bought a model 41 I bought used 150bucks has a blueing on the barrel issue but not bad lucky day accrate as hell. Will never got rid of it. I prize this one.date code is 1977. Great video.
I just purchased a model 41 , dated 1977 in really nice condition , been wanting one for quite some time . I had a High Standard Olympic ISU 22 short back in the late 70's that I paid $50 for that I regret selling ! I called it my James Bond gun because it was so cool looking !Ha !
I bought a Smith & Wesson target pistol.
I sold it and bought a Ruger Mark IV with a 6" barrel. Best pistol for just plinking or serious target practice.
Good shooting
Can’t see the squirrels. Thank you good job. 41
They were a bit hard to see and aim at for me as well. Thanks for watching.
I have the same Ruger Mk. IV and I found the trigger to be mostly complete poop, worse than any of the Mk. I, II, and even III I’ve shot, and the III aren’t known for decent triggers. A Volquartsen trigger totally solved the issue. A 41 is still on my bucket list as there’s no question they’re one of the finest rimfire pistols on the planet.
That's some good shooting there Mr.
Your 41 is still in great shape and shoots like a champ, but that ruger really suprised me. Wow.
I have a soft spot in my heart for my m41. It's a 1968 model I bought when I was 16 in 1988 but my vision has gotten to the point where its hard to shoot as well as the pistol can. I have a 5½" bbl for it I got in the 90s that wears a scope now and it keeps me competitive with the rifles. Sometimes that's all I take to the range and I go to the rifle range and ring the prairie dog target at 100 yards 10 out of ten times. (Sadly, I can't do that with iron sights anymore).
My brother's Ruger 22/45 is a decent shooter as well, not too far behind the 41. Great really, for what he paid for it in the 90s.
I had an elderly freind who had just bought a browning buck mark with the 5" barrel, but he'd gotten terribly ill and couldnt get out to shoot it. So he asked me to take it out and see what it could do. We were both impressed with the targets I brought back and was happy to find out it was a good purchase. The pistol shot nearly as well as my 41, but the trigger wasn't very good in comparison. Sadly, Bob passed from pneumonia less than a week later. When I went to visit his wife, that target was still on their kitchen table.
Got a Ruger 45/22,and it shoots great. But ,,is picky about what to feed it. But that ok. As long as it shoots tight groups.
I’ve been torn between buying (if and when I can find a new one in stock) a Ruger Hunter and a S&W Model 41 performance center with the shorter barrel. Based on both yours and others reviews I am leaning seriously towards the Model 41. In my research, it seems that there is no proven accuracy difference between the 5” and 7” Model 41’s. Some reviewers even expressed a preference for the shorter barrel in that it was more manageable shooting free hand. What are your thoughts? BTW.. as of June 2022 both the 5” and 7” are the same price. The 7” is rarer…
PS: I’ve owned a Ruger Mark lll Target 6” bull barrel stainless for 10 years and while I love it’s accuracy, I don’t shoot it anymore due to it’s absolutely insane take down method. I intend to trade it in when I make my purchase.
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video. In regards to your choice between the Ruger or the S&W, I think the model 41 is a better gun all around. I know they hold their value better, and they do have an edge over the Ruger in terms of shooting them more accurately. That doesn't necessarily mean that the 41 is more accurate. In my opinion it is just easier to shoot more consistently, for me anyway. As to the difference between the 5 inch and 7 inch barrels, I have never shot the 5 inch version, so I can't say one way or the other. I would tend to think that the longer sight radius on the 7 inch barrel is an advantage for more consistent accuracy. But that's only my opinion.
Buffalo Outdoors has the 5" and says he chose it for better balance, but the 7" barrel will fit the same receiver. I don't own a 41 so i don't know if you can purchase the barrel's separately. If you can hold each and see which feels better.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Thanks for your advice. I ended up purchasing the 5” barrel version of the S&W Model 41 Performance Center. After watching many reviews and reading many articles and owner reviews, I’ve come to understand that the 7” feels less balanced and in head to head shooting using both barrels on the same frame for like 100 rounds of the same ammo at both 25&50 yards there was no discernible difference in the group size… so I went with the 5”.
@@brianwest5348 Thanks for the info and see above reply…
22s are very picky about what Ammo the shot well. Even with two exactly the same guns. Also shooting 5-10 fouling shots with each Ammo,before shooting for groups helps greatly.
This should be a comparison between the Ruger and the S&W LIBERTY for a very good test. I had a Liberty til my grandson shot it then I never saw it again. But I really likes the Liberty.
Sin duda el Smith &wesson mod 41 es infinitamente mejor! Yo tengo uno y realmente me sorprendió gratamente su precisión! Soy hermosos y su terminado es espectacular!
an upsude down "t" shape target works well for square open sites. although obviously you have to draw your own and is not as convenient
or even a square sized to match front site