I bought a 916 new in 1997 and still have have it, the maintenance is not really that bad. The only real issue was the voltage regulator and once that was sorted its been 100% reliable. The original ecu finally failed in 2019, not bad, and Ducati still sells the dang thing! Change the belts, check and adjust the rockers, change the oil, and DON'T over rev them, they will just go and go and go, and people still love it to this day, every time I ride I ride I get at least a thumbs up from somebody, it's uncomfortable, and and blah blah blah but nothings handles like it, or sounds like or makes you fell like a hero, which I'm not, its just so unique. I also have a 2008 1098r and a 2003 ST4s. I will have no plans of selling any one of them.
I'm italian and a i am a Ducati super fan owner. To a group of people you shoud call them: "ducatisti", plural; to one person you have to say: "ducatistA". Super cool! Good job guys.
Glutamine, is the first time that I hear about the term "ducatiani". In the italian Ducati website there is the same article, probably this word was used in the past. In italian we say: "Io sono un ducatista" = "I'm a ducati fan/owner"; "Noi siamo dei ducatisti" = "We are ducati fans/owners".
Excellent video. It could be an hour long and I still wouldn't get bored! I've owned a 1098 in the past and also several IL4 Japanese bikes. The engine character, torque of the 1098 makes it a much more visceral and pleasurable riding experience than any other sportsbike I've experienced. You have to ride one for a little while to get it! The 1098 is fun even riding slow while the IL4 bikes only feel great when you're revving and riding them hard which isn't always practical on the street.
@@david2881 I have not! I'm sure it is amazing. You could add TC to the 1098. Although if you're experienced and have a steady wrist, I don't think you'd need it.
I have the same feeling: My 998 gave me a much better feeling when cornering than the Panigale. I prefer the trellis frame chassis for that reason. The 916 you're riding here looks great.
I'm a Ducati fan, once I got my 1299 S I was hooked. The Xdiavel S and the V4 S soon followed, now this V4 R . Well I guess I'll be on my way to the dealership after the holidays.
The last trellis framed Superbike before the Panigale began is my fav of this bunch. Monster midrange torque, L-twin, chassis feedback. Styling was great as well.
Please do this with the Honda line up. Would love to see a comparison from the 929 to present day of each generation of fireblades. Hell wouldn't mind seeing a RC51 in the mix to keep us on our toes lol.
If not the CBR, then maybe each V4 up until the RVF1000 when it arrives in another billion years. I really don't think anybody would _really_ mind more V4 goodness Alternatively, every open-class Ninja up to the H2 would be sweet as well
I'd love to do something similar with the Fireblades, but finding good running examples, getting them all in one place, and having the owners let me ride them on a racetrack is super hard! I still can't believe we made this Ducati comparison happen.
GREAT VIDEO! I'm no Ducatista, but I am a loyal Ducati owner. I have a 748S, an 848, and a 959 Panigale, and every single one of them is an absolute delight to own. I'm probably gonna sell the Panigale, though. After 26,000-ish miles, the 959 just feels a little soft. I like analog bikes that can't wait to kill me, so I'm thinking about getting an old 750 Sport from the 80's, or maybe an F1.
Agreed with elmo, get a 1098/1198. They are about as raw/analog as they come, and they will try to kill you with a lot of suspense leading up to your death. The 848 is a total puts in comparison. You won't be able to ride the bike without a clear mind and full attention, its an animal.
This is by far one of the best if not THE best Motorcycle.com video you guys put together. Kudos to Troy and whoever came up with this idea. Entertaining, fun and educational. Thank you, guys!
I'm a huge Ducati Superbke fan and own all 6 Generationsof R models from the Final Edition 888 to the 998R, 999R, 1098R, 1199R, and am curretny awaiting the arrival of my new 1000cc V4R. And I have ridden the current Panigale 1100 V4S at the Missano World Circuit this past July ar World Ducati Week 2018 and it is an incredible bike - handling, power comfort and confidence. But to rate the different generations, the 2nd genertion 916 released in 1993 (which I also owed and later ugred to a 926cc R verson ) was the best superbike of the time, period. Nothing else from the Japanese manufacturers handled as well, and it had enough power at the time. The 2nd Gerneration ended in 2002 with the larger displaceement 996/998Rs which kept the same incredible handling and offered the power and torque increase to beat the latest Japanese competition. (Note: I would later add to my collection a 2nd Gen 2004 998S Finale Edition which was modified with the new 999R Testastreta engine, a similar NCR bike which Frankie Chili raced in 2003 to beat the new factory 999RS race bike their first year in World Superbike) With the next 3rd Generation 999R and 4th Generation 1098R (actually 1198cc on the R models) the bikes got bigger and more comfortable to ride, and the engines where much more powerful, but i don't think they handled as well as the Generation 2s, until we came to the arrival of Generation 5 Panigale 1199R. This is the best Ducati Superbike ever, to match and surpass the lightweight, handling of the 2nd Gen bike, but with an amazing personality of an engine with a torque curve that only a V-twin tuned to 220hp can provide. This is my favorite of the Ducati Superbike family. When I rode the new 1100cc V4S on the track at Missano it did blow me away in handling and braking as being just incredible, despite the V4 engine's added 20lbs of weight which you just don't feel when riding it. And the V4s power was awesome, but the 1100cc V4 is now so smooth, just like a Japanese in-'line four, that it has lost the much loved personality of the classic Ducati V2. I'm looking forward to owning and riding the new 1000cc V4R because I except the higher state of tune of the 235hp engine will help to put some persoanlity back into the feel of the power. I cant wait! - Jim Gianatsis / Editor, FastDates.com
Thank you for the detailed perspective. Much better than the Fuckin video lol. I hear that the ducati 1299 is more raw with the character but the V4 are missing that.... I am sure I winch love the 1198S. And the 1299.... Is the V4 a better bike to have though? Conflicted. Love love love the character of ducati bikes. Congratulates on being able to enjoy them in life. I hope to do the same in the future.
I also owned the 999R and it is a Magnificent Motorcycle, Im gutted I sold it, but need the money at the time and sold it for £5,000! So now having test rode the V4S I think its time to get the top of the range V4R! Cant wait till June 2019 when it arrives!
Great video nicely thought out. I am a Ducatista and employee of Ducati. Amazing products, i have been a Beemer loyalist however just ordered the V4r. I cant wait!
Great video, guys! Hats off to Shahin, and to those who loaned their bikes for this, and to that lucky so and so Troy for getting seat time on so many cool rides in a row. :)
Love the beauty and brutality of Ducati but Aprillia's current platform seems much more refined. The bigger displacement next year indicates further domination is likely!
I really wish Aprilia would update the style of the bike. I can’t tell one year from the next. They all look the same. Not taking anything away from the RSV4. It’s a great bike for sure
@@cnealmartin Just like Porsche, but the ugly sister... I agree they could update the style, I think it's been 10 years? I don't think they will ever look as good as Ducati or MV for that matter, but it's obviously not their priority.
Ducati has always made style a priority and the sales show it. I do love the RSV4, the polished frame is beautiful. But 10 years? People COME ON I am thinking that sort of thing is very expensive to do on a R&D level.
Aprilia is not more refined, it is a race bike (note downforce wings on the 19), which received a few updates- still a race bike. Ducati v4s is one of the most advanced bikes for the road/track and way more versatile and easy to ride than rsv. Watch 44t’s review of v4 vs rsv4.
Max Mazourov The Duke has incredible power but is still no faster around the track. It's questionable chassis is heavily compensated by electronics. Everyone is saying it needs refining and major setup.... and then there's the recall on several parts...I would say they are both track bikes and at present The V4 is a little underwhelming for the price.
Great vid guys. On my way right now to Barber with my v4s speciale. and this video help me for 16 minutes of my drive of course in the passenger seat thank you again 😁
@@TroySiahaan it was pretty decent there's never a bad day at Barber but they were booked so you can imagine there were a lot of people on the track and Monday got rained out unfortunately.
You also have to go back to the 907ie, which was the first with Liquid Cooling and Fuel injection, before the 851. Granted the 907ie was more of a tour motorcycle, but was a all around road machine. 851 was first of the 4 valve motors with liquid cooling. But without the mistakes found in the 907ie, the 851 would have been much worse. Also, the 888 was an improvement on the 851 as well. Now riding a 2017 Supersport S, which puts me back into the sweet spot of the Ducati lineage. Owned 907ie/851/888/916/ST4/Elephant/ and now the Supersport S 937. there are quite a few of those I wish I still had.... Great video...
I own a 998 and a 1299S. I must say that the throttle control on the newer bikes suffers from a strange delay due to E-gas. Don't get me wrong, all help systems works great but it's not the same 100% control.
Being an Aeronautical Engineer & Biker , all Italian exotic craftsmanship beauties r great on Winter season but especially in Summer season they've really big heating issues... KTM also have the same issue.. Japanese m/c , Britt's Triumph , Norton & German's BMW , Horex , MZ have no such heating issues like them.... Thanks.......
I had an 1198s, multistrada 1200s, Diavel dark, and an ST4. The 1198s, Multistrada and Diavel have the same engine but way different tuning for each. Definitely not beginner bikes.
999s best old skool feel and great power overall usable power and amazing Ducati feel. But love them all. My s4r 996 is amazing easy flickable and fun and suprises with the grunt and mid range.
As a professional motorcycle journalist I’m astounded at the banality of your analysis. This could have been a brilliant retrospective but it was asinine.
Can you guys stop standing in front of the 999 all the time XD You are blocking its magnificence! I think out of these bikes it's the most Ducati to ever Ducati. Last line of the fully analogue models, pinnacle of its age, and the looks are just so ahead of its time, still stand out today, and honestly I find it a lot more aesthetically pleasing than the 916 with its wide front and froggy headlights. The 999 looks so focused and centered around performance, while still being elegant. It's like if Da Vinci were to create a fighter plane, you just know he would cook up something mad, yet stylishly beautiful.
@@Real_MisterSir ugly hayabusa looks better than the ugly 999, heck, its so ugly that ugly capetownian pier terblanche lost his job and has never been forgiven :) 1098 is the true successor to the most beautiful bike ever crafted, :D sorry you ugly too
As a guy lucky enough to becoming a first time Ducati owner by this weekend's end, I've been soaking up Duc vids. You guys had a rare opportunity to do something great here with this stable full of Italian studs. Now don't get me wrong (a term you used way too much in this vid) This was fun. Loved seeing and hearing the bikes. Your banter was entertaining. Sadly, after your great Ode da la 851, this vid fell short. I thought we would get a proper comparison. An average group of middle aged weekend warriors could have done this. You missed the mark.
This guy’s boss Arun (ah ruin) is the Gm at Motocorsa. He is a legend and a hell of a nice guy! I used to pick his brain for dealership issues! 916 is still the most beautiful bike ever built!
Really late responding here, but the 848 isn't a superbike. Its basically a 1098 with a small displacement, however I think the point here was to compare all the generations that were actually used in World Superbike.
I'm totally with you. The 999 is the pinnacle of the analogue Ducati line, really the best of its age. And oh wow did it age well. Looks much more elegant and focused than most other bikes of recent years
@JIGA BACHI I honestly think the 999 looks awesome! It really has an exotic look like nothing else. Problem was at the time, it was SO far away from the sexy 916. Im kinda a style snob. Other than huge power numbers, the style of the 1299 was a major factor of my purchase. I can’t see any reason to have the V4. The 1299 has so much power, all I can do to manage it on and off the track.
cool vid, except for a glaring historical omission! I think you'll find that it was Fred Merkel on an rc30 that won the first two WSB championships before Ducati managed to get their mits on the hardware in the third season of WSB. Granted, they kinda of owned it after that for many a season...
@@848evo4 Raymond Roche won on a bike where at least the stickers said 851, with the original more bulbous bodywork. Same for Polen in 1991. To your point the engine rapidly evolved from 851cc to 888, 904, and 926. Ironically the 916 was never raced as a 916cc, Fogarty and others always raced 955 or later 996cc versions.
@@848evo4 Many of the WSBK Ducatis prior to the 916 used the original 851 bodywork, even in '92-93. Fogarty used the new body in '93. The SP model his bike was ostensibly based on in 1991 was called an 851 SP2 with 851 decals, but to your point the actual capacity of that bike was 888cc. Polen's '91 & 92 bikes had 888 decals at some races (Ducati museum bike has them), but used the original bodywork not the Terblanche refresh of '92. He may have switched late in '92 to the new bodywork but most pictures with his #1 plate are of the older shape.
Would like to see like 5 riders, ride the same bike from a beginner every day to a veteran rider to a amateur weekend racer to a semi pro to a gp rider. To see the difference of lap times.
...how many miles were you away from home when you said that? Look #1 if you have to read an owners' manual to survive a ride on a bike, that's not a good sign. Riding it in stock trim with the default settings should be fine. Not saying that it's optimized, but still fine. If it's not then you're not a good rider, because good riders don't kill themselves riding bikes. It's part of the code.
my humble opinion: As ugly and grotesque the 999 is , , , , , it rivaled literbikes of its time with " EQUAL 999CC capacity ON TWO CYLINDERS ONLY" and gained 3 world championships. . . . . ugly as it maybe . . . that is THE CHAMPION in my book. . . . pierre d id something right. :)
The 999 is not the redheaded stepchild of the Ducati family. It is the Pontiac Aztek of the Ducati line. I don't know of an uglier superbike out there, and whoever came up with it's styling should be staked down to an anthill between some gator nests, in the Florida Everglades, have honey poured on him, during Mosquito season! I don't care how good it performs, I will NEVER purchase one. It's the 998 for me, thank you very much.
Not a Ducati fanboy myself, back in the 90's a $27,000 literbike was getting smoked by $6000 super sports, and I mean like 2 seconds. Everyone would say V-Twins have a lot of torque and they're faster on the street and I'd always say lap times don't lie. I like the way they look and appreciate their place in the industry but always bought Japanese.
@@crt33 comparing race bikes to street bikes is apples to oranges, I'm just pointing out a fizzle for the buck compared to it's competitors. Fallacies abound when trying to sell an inferior product for more than 4x the money, saying things like "exclusive" ... Don't get me wrong, I like Ducati as a brand and their bikes do provoke emotions on their looks alone but it's like trying to excuse dropping 40K on a Hublot when the Chinese make better replicas for $200 Go Davies, hoping he's next year's champ cause was the only reason WSBK was worth watching till mid-season 18
@@crt33 I threw out all my old magazines so not sure if it was the 916 Senna but it was some special model, the price was so insulting I'm indignant to this day lolz
brilliantradience funnily enough I think the same after watching EICMA and seeing the ludicrous price of that MV Claudia F4. HP Race I can get on board with but £70k for a 'luxury' bike is just beyond words.
I bought a 916 new in 1997 and still have have it, the maintenance is not really that bad. The only real issue was the voltage regulator and once that was sorted its been 100% reliable. The original ecu finally failed in 2019, not bad, and Ducati still sells the dang thing! Change the belts, check and adjust the rockers, change the oil, and DON'T over rev them, they will just go and go and go, and people still love it to this day, every time I ride I ride I get at least a thumbs up from somebody, it's uncomfortable, and and blah blah blah but nothings handles like it, or sounds like or makes you fell like a hero, which I'm not, its just so unique. I also have a 2008 1098r and a 2003 ST4s. I will have no plans of selling any one of them.
I'm italian and a i am a Ducati super fan owner. To a group of people you shoud call them: "ducatisti", plural; to one person you have to say: "ducatistA". Super cool! Good job guys.
What about ducatiani?!
"Ducatiani" in italian is wrong, means nothing and dosen't sound funny.
Clearly, Italian isn't my first language...
Glutamine, is the first time that I hear about the term "ducatiani". In the italian Ducati website there is the same article, probably this word was used in the past. In italian we say: "Io sono un ducatista" = "I'm a ducati fan/owner"; "Noi siamo dei ducatisti" = "We are ducati fans/owners".
They merican don't expect miracles lol.
Excellent video. It could be an hour long and I still wouldn't get bored! I've owned a 1098 in the past and also several IL4 Japanese bikes. The engine character, torque of the 1098 makes it a much more visceral and pleasurable riding experience than any other sportsbike I've experienced. You have to ride one for a little while to get it!
The 1098 is fun even riding slow while the IL4 bikes only feel great when you're revving and riding them hard which isn't always practical on the street.
Have you ever riden the 1198? Any thoughts,thinking of getting a 1098 and add traction control..
@@david2881 I have not! I'm sure it is amazing.
You could add TC to the 1098. Although if you're experienced and have a steady wrist, I don't think you'd need it.
@@Gautam454 ok thanks
1198 my favourite one and the last one with steel frame!! 💪aa and the most beautiful one!
I have the same feeling: My 998 gave me a much better feeling when cornering than the Panigale. I prefer the trellis frame chassis for that reason. The 916 you're riding here looks great.
Love the 998. I wish I could be a first owner of either those or the 1198 and keep it forever while riding it for my pleasure.
I'm a Ducati fan, once I got my 1299 S I was hooked. The Xdiavel S and the V4 S soon followed, now this V4 R . Well I guess I'll be on my way to the dealership after the holidays.
Holy shit! Congratulations in life! I'm dying to have a ducati
Now THIS is the video the motorcycle world has been waiting for. Bravo!
Thanks!
The last trellis framed Superbike before the Panigale began is my fav of this bunch. Monster midrange torque, L-twin, chassis feedback. Styling was great as well.
If you're talking about the 1098/1198 family, then yes, I have to agree. That model is one of my favorites.
Yes I wish I could be the first owner of a 1198 corsa and keep it forever while riding it for my pleasure.
Thank you amazing video and bikes. DUCATI LIFE 4 EVER!!!!!
Please do this with the Honda line up. Would love to see a comparison from the 929 to present day of each generation of fireblades. Hell wouldn't mind seeing a RC51 in the mix to keep us on our toes lol.
RC51 vs 954 is what I always wanted to see
If not the CBR, then maybe each V4 up until the RVF1000 when it arrives in another billion years. I really don't think anybody would _really_ mind more V4 goodness
Alternatively, every open-class Ninja up to the H2 would be sweet as well
@@hvymtal8566 I just want to see Honda shove the CBR600RR up their ***** and instead make an RVF600. One can only dream
I'd love to do something similar with the Fireblades, but finding good running examples, getting them all in one place, and having the owners let me ride them on a racetrack is super hard! I still can't believe we made this Ducati comparison happen.
That would actually be more interesting.
GREAT VIDEO! I'm no Ducatista, but I am a loyal Ducati owner.
I have a 748S, an 848, and a 959 Panigale, and every single one of them is an absolute delight to own. I'm probably gonna sell the Panigale, though. After 26,000-ish miles, the 959 just feels a little soft. I like analog bikes that can't wait to kill me, so I'm thinking about getting an old 750 Sport from the 80's, or maybe an F1.
Analog bike that can't wait to kill you?? My friend, get a 1098.
Agreed with elmo, get a 1098/1198. They are about as raw/analog as they come, and they will try to kill you with a lot of suspense leading up to your death. The 848 is a total puts in comparison. You won't be able to ride the bike without a clear mind and full attention, its an animal.
How about a 1098? I think its the ultimate analog bike. And the last one. And ive got a nice one for sale!
This is by far one of the best if not THE best Motorcycle.com video you guys put together. Kudos to Troy and whoever came up with this idea. Entertaining, fun and educational.
Thank you, guys!
Wow. Thanks so much for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed it.
I love the 999 in that paint scheme
I'm a huge Ducati Superbke fan and own all 6 Generationsof R models from the Final Edition 888 to the 998R, 999R, 1098R, 1199R, and am curretny awaiting the arrival of my new 1000cc V4R. And I have ridden the current Panigale 1100 V4S at the Missano World Circuit this past July ar World Ducati Week 2018 and it is an incredible bike - handling, power comfort and confidence.
But to rate the different generations, the 2nd genertion 916 released in 1993 (which I also owed and later ugred to a 926cc R verson ) was the best superbike of the time, period. Nothing else from the Japanese manufacturers handled as well, and it had enough power at the time. The 2nd Gerneration ended in 2002 with the larger displaceement 996/998Rs which kept the same incredible handling and offered the power and torque increase to beat the latest Japanese competition.
(Note: I would later add to my collection a 2nd Gen 2004 998S Finale Edition which was modified with the new 999R Testastreta engine, a similar NCR bike which Frankie Chili raced in 2003 to beat the new factory 999RS race bike their first year in World Superbike)
With the next 3rd Generation 999R and 4th Generation 1098R (actually 1198cc on the R models) the bikes got bigger and more comfortable to ride, and the engines where much more powerful, but i don't think they handled as well as the Generation 2s, until we came to the arrival of Generation 5 Panigale 1199R. This is the best Ducati Superbike ever, to match and surpass the lightweight, handling of the 2nd Gen bike, but with an amazing personality of an engine with a torque curve that only a V-twin tuned to 220hp can provide. This is my favorite of the Ducati Superbike family.
When I rode the new 1100cc V4S on the track at Missano it did blow me away in handling and braking as being just incredible, despite the V4 engine's added 20lbs of weight which you just don't feel when riding it. And the V4s power was awesome, but the 1100cc V4 is now so smooth, just like a Japanese in-'line four, that it has lost the much loved personality of the classic Ducati V2. I'm looking forward to owning and riding the new 1000cc V4R because I except the higher state of tune of the 235hp engine will help to put some persoanlity back into the feel of the power. I cant wait! - Jim Gianatsis / Editor, FastDates.com
Thank you for the detailed perspective. Much better than the Fuckin video lol. I hear that the ducati 1299 is more raw with the character but the V4 are missing that.... I am sure I winch love the 1198S. And the 1299.... Is the V4 a better bike to have though? Conflicted. Love love love the character of ducati bikes. Congratulates on being able to enjoy them in life. I hope to do the same in the future.
Excellent video! I owned and RACED the 916SP and love the ducati brand, about to put in my order for the V4R!
I also owned the 999R and it is a Magnificent Motorcycle, Im gutted I sold it, but need the money at the time and sold it for £5,000! So now having test rode the V4S I think its time to get the top of the range V4R! Cant wait till June 2019 when it arrives!
Great video nicely thought out. I am a Ducatista and employee of Ducati. Amazing products, i have been a Beemer loyalist however just ordered the V4r. I cant wait!
6 years I have owned my 1198 it still surprises me how quick it is... I am going to upload more gopro vids of it I think
How is the 1198, thinking of getting either 1098 or 1198.. like to take to track once while,mostly city driving?
Just looking at the line up tells you that the 916 is in a Class Act all by itself. Possibly the most beautiful looking motorcycle ever made
749/999 last of the handbuilt ducatis ... Icon ..
+1
I'm a very lucky owner of a 999 for 10 years now. I still can't part with it. 60k kms and counting.
would you rather get a 749 or a 848 ?
Thanks for talking about the 851
I know a Desmo would not be easy to get. But it definitely had influence on the be V4
Great video. Ducati 999R is my favourite.
Great video, guys! Hats off to Shahin, and to those who loaned their bikes for this, and to that lucky so and so Troy for getting seat time on so many cool rides in a row. :)
Thanks! And yes, I'm definitely a lucky SOB. I'm still pinching myself. :)
Love the beauty and brutality of Ducati but Aprillia's current platform seems much more refined. The bigger displacement next year indicates further domination is likely!
I really wish Aprilia would update the style of the bike. I can’t tell one year from the next. They all look the same.
Not taking anything away from the RSV4. It’s a great bike for sure
@@cnealmartin Just like Porsche, but the ugly sister... I agree they could update the style, I think it's been 10 years? I don't think they will ever look as good as Ducati or MV for that matter, but it's obviously not their priority.
Ducati has always made style a priority and the sales show it. I do love the RSV4, the polished frame is beautiful. But 10 years? People COME ON
I am thinking that sort of thing is very expensive to do on a R&D level.
Aprilia is not more refined, it is a race bike (note downforce wings on the 19), which received a few updates- still a race bike. Ducati v4s is one of the most advanced bikes for the road/track and way more versatile and easy to ride than rsv. Watch 44t’s review of v4 vs rsv4.
Max Mazourov The Duke has incredible power but is still no faster around the track. It's questionable chassis is heavily compensated by electronics. Everyone is saying it needs refining and major setup.... and then there's the recall on several parts...I would say they are both track bikes and at present The V4 is a little underwhelming for the price.
This is one of the best episodes on Motorcycle.com
Please continue this
Consider the 25 year old Fireblade Lineup please :)
Cheers.
Thanks! Would love to do the Fireblades. The hard part is getting them all together and convincing the owners to let me ride them!
Missing the best bike ever, 1198
1198 missing here
well, 996 and 998 as well. but cool anyways :-)
It's basically just a 1098 with a bit extra power.
1098R=1198,with superior engine and parts
Great vid guys. On my way right now to Barber with my v4s speciale. and this video help me for 16 minutes of my drive of course in the passenger seat thank you again 😁
Thanks! By the time you read this I'm guessing the Barber trackday has already come and gone. How was it?
@@TroySiahaan it was pretty decent there's never a bad day at Barber but they were booked so you can imagine there were a lot of people on the track and Monday got rained out unfortunately.
You also have to go back to the 907ie, which was the first with Liquid Cooling and Fuel injection, before the 851. Granted the 907ie was more of a tour motorcycle, but was a all around road machine. 851 was first of the 4 valve motors with liquid cooling. But without the mistakes found in the 907ie, the 851 would have been much worse. Also, the 888 was an improvement on the 851 as well. Now riding a 2017 Supersport S, which puts me back into the sweet spot of the Ducati lineage. Owned 907ie/851/888/916/ST4/Elephant/ and now the Supersport S 937. there are quite a few of those I wish I still had.... Great video...
907ie was 1991. 851 tricolore was 1988.
Nice vid, I have a 853 (748 with 916 head, google it!) and my dad has a v4r. Quite a glorious noise when we go out.
Keep em comin guys. What an absolute treat. Troy you lucky son of a gun... lol
Glad you liked it. And yes, I'm definitely a lucky guy!
Cool music, especially the engine sound @ 6:18. Awesome stuff!
I own a 998 and a 1299S. I must say that the throttle control on the newer bikes suffers from a strange delay due to E-gas. Don't get me wrong, all help systems works great but it's not the same 100% control.
Yeah, the fly-by-wire on my 959 feels really disconnected, and the computer is constantly changing how it feels depending on how you're riding.
Call bren tuning they can help you with that.😉
I know what you mean about the Panigale throttle response. Look up Panigale Spacers - life changer! It totally gets rid of the throttle slack.
Get it tuned.... Then see what the bike is like
Being an Aeronautical Engineer & Biker , all Italian exotic craftsmanship beauties r great on Winter season but especially in Summer season they've really big heating issues...
KTM also have the same issue..
Japanese m/c , Britt's Triumph , Norton & German's BMW , Horex , MZ have no such heating issues like them....
Thanks.......
I had an 1198s, multistrada 1200s, Diavel dark, and an ST4. The 1198s, Multistrada and Diavel have the same engine but way different tuning for each. Definitely not beginner bikes.
The 999 is hands-down the best looking bike Ducati have ever made!
prozeza omfg
prozeza you just trolled me, well done!
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3rd-Desmosedici RR
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6th-1000SS DS
7th-888 Sp5
999s best old skool feel and great power overall usable power and amazing Ducati feel. But love them all. My s4r 996 is amazing easy flickable and fun and suprises with the grunt and mid range.
Awesome report guys... love the track tooooooo!
As a professional motorcycle journalist I’m astounded at the banality of your analysis. This could have been a brilliant retrospective but it was asinine.
It's 'Merika! Fuck Yeah. Like planet earth, but different. Did you expect balanced objective informed analysis?
I agree. thanks for for slaughtering them in the kindest way possible lol
Can you guys stop standing in front of the 999 all the time XD You are blocking its magnificence! I think out of these bikes it's the most Ducati to ever Ducati. Last line of the fully analogue models, pinnacle of its age, and the looks are just so ahead of its time, still stand out today, and honestly I find it a lot more aesthetically pleasing than the 916 with its wide front and froggy headlights. The 999 looks so focused and centered around performance, while still being elegant. It's like if Da Vinci were to create a fighter plane, you just know he would cook up something mad, yet stylishly beautiful.
Daniel Kemnitz haha haha, 999 is ugly, like you
I love it
@@Alex-ei6qr what a mature response :D I thin you don't qualify for youtube age restrictions mate
@@Real_MisterSir ugly hayabusa looks better than the ugly 999, heck, its so ugly that ugly capetownian pier terblanche lost his job and has never been forgiven :) 1098 is the true successor to the most beautiful bike ever crafted, :D sorry you ugly too
The desmosedicci rr was not only the ultimate ducati bust also the ultimate super dreamy bike of all time....and the most beautiful...
Excellent motorcycle review 👌 thanks for making this entertaining video
If you turned off all the electronics on the newer bikes, would you say the 999 handles the best of them all?
As a guy lucky enough to becoming a first time Ducati owner by this weekend's end, I've been soaking up Duc vids. You guys had a rare opportunity to do something great here with this stable full of Italian studs. Now don't get me wrong (a term you used way too much in this vid) This was fun. Loved seeing and hearing the bikes. Your banter was entertaining. Sadly, after your great Ode da la 851, this vid fell short. I thought we would get a proper comparison. An average group of middle aged weekend warriors could have done this. You missed the mark.
This guy’s boss Arun (ah ruin) is the Gm at Motocorsa. He is a legend and a hell of a nice guy! I used to pick his brain for dealership issues! 916 is still the most beautiful bike ever built!
848 is way underrated (and not mentioned)
Really late responding here, but the 848 isn't a superbike. Its basically a 1098 with a small displacement, however I think the point here was to compare all the generations that were actually used in World Superbike.
Absolutely cool video. Loved it 👍
Got a 1299 but this has really got me tempted in test riding a V4. Great review!
999 is life . . . F THE HATERS !
What's with the random porta-potties in the inland ? LOL.
JIGA BACHI it’s for the guys who have the poop flap option with their leathers.
The 999 has a very unique look. I think it looks as modern as ever. Nothing else compares to it.
@@cnealmartin I feel it has aged VERY well precisely because of that subdued style compared to today's Insectoid/Transformers/Origami looks.
I'm totally with you. The 999 is the pinnacle of the analogue Ducati line, really the best of its age. And oh wow did it age well. Looks much more elegant and focused than most other bikes of recent years
@JIGA BACHI
I honestly think the 999 looks awesome! It really has an exotic look like nothing else.
Problem was at the time, it was SO far away from the sexy 916. Im kinda a style snob. Other than huge power numbers, the style of the 1299 was a major factor of my purchase. I can’t see any reason to have the V4. The 1299 has so much power, all I can do to manage it on and off the track.
cool vid, except for a glaring historical omission!
I think you'll find that it was Fred Merkel on an rc30 that won the first two WSB championships before Ducati managed to get their mits on the hardware in the third season of WSB. Granted, they kinda of owned it after that for many a season...
you are correct, and I believe it was the 888, which may just be an evolution of the 851 but it definitely looks better
@@848evo4 Raymond Roche won on a bike where at least the stickers said 851, with the original more bulbous bodywork. Same for Polen in 1991. To your point the engine rapidly evolved from 851cc to 888, 904, and 926. Ironically the 916 was never raced as a 916cc, Fogarty and others always raced 955 or later 996cc versions.
@@sburns2421 Polen was on an 888 for 91 & 92
Whelp, I gotta eat that one. I worded it wrong (I definitely know about Fred Merkel) and got carried away by the numerous titles Ducati have won.
@@848evo4 Many of the WSBK Ducatis prior to the 916 used the original 851 bodywork, even in '92-93. Fogarty used the new body in '93. The SP model his bike was ostensibly based on in 1991 was called an 851 SP2 with 851 decals, but to your point the actual capacity of that bike was 888cc. Polen's '91 & 92 bikes had 888 decals at some races (Ducati museum bike has them), but used the original bodywork not the Terblanche refresh of '92. He may have switched late in '92 to the new bodywork but most pictures with his #1 plate are of the older shape.
Great video 👍
Great show, thanks!!!
spontaneous greeting with mic lead in tow... nice
Would like to see like 5 riders, ride the same bike from a beginner every day to a veteran rider to a amateur weekend racer to a semi pro to a gp rider. To see the difference of lap times.
Great vid!!
Awesome video, dreaming of owning a V4 Ducati :) to replace my current ride. Just listen to the sound ! drool drool
This video is my dream.
Love the steel trellis frame of my CBR 250R for the same aforementioned reasons.
Nice video Troy👍
999 is love
Makes me really wish I'd bought that 888.
Hmm... MotoCorsa? Looks like I now have a good reason to visit Portland.
There goes no nut November, thx guys
Nice effort!
Love my Duc's. My 916 tho, my favorite... Looks so sexy, and it LOVES turns!
Ride a V-4? Like a Aprilia? Or a Honda V-4?
WOW...AMAZING!!!
Not worried about the 851, or the 599 whatever.
Where's the 1299 v-twin?
...how many miles were you away from home when you said that?
Look #1 if you have to read an owners' manual to survive a ride on a bike, that's not a good sign. Riding it in stock trim with the default settings should be fine. Not saying that it's optimized, but still fine.
If it's not then you're not a good rider, because good riders don't kill themselves riding bikes. It's part of the code.
putting a Ferrari bade on a Ducati which is owned by audi...There is always that one guy..
Spelling the word "bade" instead of the word badge, makes you that other guy😂
Only joking brother, I could not resist 🤗
Always sad that no one has anything to say about the 1098 :(
They were amazing
916 all the way, and enough power to learn how to ride without shitting your pants
Poor me. The only Ducati I'll manage to ride since I'm on my way up financially is the V4's.
Guys what's the actual rear wheel horsepower of a MotoGP bike and the torque in Newton meters??
TheRich EnglishGentleman no idea, they have around 250-270hp and weigh about 157-160kg.
This is sick
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916 / 748 forever
So im a say the 1098 was the transition.
Please do this with Yamaha R1 series.
my humble opinion: As ugly and grotesque the 999 is , , , , , it rivaled literbikes of its time with " EQUAL 999CC capacity ON TWO CYLINDERS ONLY" and gained 3 world championships. . . . . ugly as it maybe . . . that is THE CHAMPION in my book. . . . pierre d id something right. :)
I love it. I don't don't it ugly. Different but not ugly. Have a beautiful day
How do I apply for a job ;)
That 916 is awesome !
Awesome comparison, but is that 1199 has a dry clutch conversion ?
Wet clutch with a see through clutch cover, mechanically the same besides the cover.
Tdfries Those covers look great.
No 1098 footage 😪 why did they just jump it ?? Did it break down ?
An aftermarket part broke that day before I got a chance to ride it.
uhhh...isn't that Ridge Motorsports Park in Washington?
Yep, Shelton WA
That’s what I thought too lol
Fast forward to 3:27. Says Shelton, WA right there.
Good point, trellis frame are the best feeling!
My dream came true... ❤️
DNA is lost on the 1199 and up. As a Ducati owner and ex owner of a 1199s I can said that very clearly...
I feel like a 900ss should have been in this lineup
888???
What about mike hailwoods tt winning machine.
beware headphone users... beware
Well that could have been 5 minutes shorter
Should have been the R 1199
I wish this video analysis was done by Casey stoner
No Desmosedici..?
The 999 is not the redheaded stepchild of the Ducati family. It is the Pontiac Aztek of the Ducati line. I don't know of an uglier superbike out there, and whoever came up with it's styling should be staked down to an anthill between some gator nests, in the Florida Everglades, have honey poured on him, during Mosquito season! I don't care how good it performs, I will NEVER purchase one. It's the 998 for me, thank you very much.
Where is the Desmosedici!
Not a Ducati fanboy myself, back in the 90's a $27,000 literbike was getting smoked by $6000 super sports, and I mean like 2 seconds. Everyone would say V-Twins have a lot of torque and they're faster on the street and I'd always say lap times don't lie. I like the way they look and appreciate their place in the industry but always bought Japanese.
brilliantradience not sure what you're smoking but Foggy won pretty much everything on that bike. Double wins, multiple WSBK championships.
@@crt33 comparing race bikes to street bikes is apples to oranges, I'm just pointing out a fizzle for the buck compared to it's competitors. Fallacies abound when trying to sell an inferior product for more than 4x the money, saying things like "exclusive" ...
Don't get me wrong, I like Ducati as a brand and their bikes do provoke emotions on their looks alone but it's like trying to excuse dropping 40K on a Hublot when the Chinese make better replicas for $200
Go Davies, hoping he's next year's champ cause was the only reason WSBK was worth watching till mid-season 18
@@crt33 I threw out all my old magazines so not sure if it was the 916 Senna but it was some special model, the price was so insulting I'm indignant to this day lolz
brilliantradience funnily enough I think the same after watching EICMA and seeing the ludicrous price of that MV Claudia F4. HP Race I can get on board with but £70k for a 'luxury' bike is just beyond words.
brilliantradience aw, you’d always say that, cute, and makes you look really stupid - did you notice people avoid you afterwards?
Trade mahsoul for the new v4...plus cash
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Wow this review sucked! Great concept but damn. It's a review not a sales pitch.
Good effort but I agree. They chilly have made it sooo much better. Try again guys. Keep up the good work