@@Nyquest I saw it... good stuff. I was a kid when Face Dances and It's Hard came out.....then I found out about the Moon guy. Those albums are fantastic and I think have had a bit of a Renaissance. Great channel. Scott Gorham interview was great too. Thin Lizzy..... Fantastic Band.
John Entwistle was the most honest member of the band when he said he wanted to still play in a band no matter how old he is and Pete says hes mad but he`s still in the Who 42 years later
Narration says Pete was reluctant before Moon passed and would walk away from the Who, he's still talking that way today! Thank God it's not been so easy
@@mikeivey8169 Hell yeh, I ran around with my older cousins so I got a head start so to speak lol, great times I’d love to be poolside at the giant pool everybody used to go to.
He was tremendous with the Small Faces. That break in the middle of Happiness Stan where the drums come thundering in, going back and forth. One of the most memorable drum pieces I’ve ever heard.
I was heavily into the Who in 79, its great to see Pete and Roger still doing it even after the deaths of Keith and John!!!! How fucking time flies! Enjoy what you can every time you can!!!!
I have been following the WHO since 1971. They always Amaze me!!! Traveled 70 miles to see " The Kids Are Alright" film in 1979!!! I own all of their Studio songs. They have too many Live albums. Was glad they continued as a band and STILL are performing in 2025.
Hearing Pete's last statement while having just seen him live on stage only 3 days ago at the age of 78... some things just turn out different than we think.
@@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot At this point in his life Pete appears to be burning out or having residual drunkenness.😅 I'm sure half the time he doesn't really mean what he says.Deep down in his heart he really loved both of them.
The 1979 Tour was my favorite Who tour. Great setlists and great performances. With Kenney and Rabbit, they played songs that they either couldn’t play with Keith or couldn’t play as well live, e.g. Music Must Change, Punk and The Godfather, Who Are You.
Yeah I also liked the horns and the improvised songs like 'Dance it Away', 'How Can You Do It Alone' and 'That's Rock 'n Roll.' I want the shows recorded on that tour released.
Yes, I wish The Who would release a deluxe, full-length, remastered concert cd and dvd of the Chicago show and the London show. Give this tour the same attention the 1969-70 Tour has received. Also, what about the 1980 Tour? Never saw any professional releases from that one.
Roger Daltrey hates Kenney Jones on drums so he's probably stopping any 79 - 82 releases....the only one being WHO'S LAST that has no songs from either FACE DANCES or ITS HARD....
The Who was unique in that The Who wasn't actually a band in the accepted understanding of that term, but rather a compilation of four soloists, each doing his own thing, which were incredibly able to do together what not one, or two, or even three of them could have done apart from the others. When even a single component of The Who was missing, they were no longer The Who, and that which made them unique was gone forever.
As I sit here thinking about the bands that I'm still listening to NOW, there actually are more than I realized that fit the "let's ALL go crazy but keep listening to each other" mold. I agree with that comment about the Who, and that's obviously true for Cream, and I'd add Jefferson Airplane. I've heard people say the same for Led Zeppelin, and The Doors, but arguably no band has as much experience organizing various groups of people into a collection of soloists - or at least "people who defined their collective sound" - as the Grateful Dead. All of these bands had "people who defined their sound" either leave, or die. If you're willing to think of Blind Faith as "Cream with Jack Bruce's replacement(s)", all of them except the Doors and Led Zeppelin reformed, and even The Doors toured and recorded as a trio after Morrison's death. The results were bands who didn't sound the same, and that has to be ok. You can STILL find people who think the Grateful Dead didn't do anything good after Pigpen was too sick tour in the early 1970s - what they did was good, it just wasn't the same.
Regarding people criticizing Pete and John's unemotional reponses to Keith's passing; if you hang around enough Brits, it's their "stiff upper lip" showing in their comments. Actually, I am more amazed and touched by Roger's feelings. Since Keith's death, Roger has been his strongest champion.
Kenney is a lovely guy, almost universally liked by all. He may not be as flashy as Moon, but still a serious, talented drummer. I agree that the problem w/Roger mostly revolved around money.
@@Capri-x8m I think that is true also. I have read both Kenney and Roger's memoirs. Differing points of view on what the problem was. It's hard to replace some one as beloved as Keith Mooney. Big shoes to fill and perhaps resentments can build. Too bad. Both of these guys are talented and very good people. I believe Roger said he liked Kenney, but in his opinion, wasn't right for the band.
I admire The Who for continuing on after Keiths death. Two bands who lost their drummers, Led Zeppelin and Rush lost their prominent drummers and called it a career as bands. The Who still goes on today with Roger and Pete still performing in 2023 as a duet. Check out their performance that occurred in June 2023.
And if we're giving credit to bands who went on after their prominent drummer died, let's give tremendous respect to The Stones, who havent missed a beat since Charlie's passing.
Rush is simply not Rush without Neil Peart. I think Geddy and Alex will probably play together live again someday, possibly only in Toronto, but they will definitely not be going by the name “Rush.”
As their manager Bill Curbishley said, keith Moon death was predictable, John Entwistle death was unneccesary. Just glad roger & pete are still with us. Legendary Band.
Saw The Who on 2 Farewell Tours 1982 1997, A few gits whined "no Keith this sucks" as if he missed the 1982 gig for a silly reason. Oh yeah said Pete and turned up the volume another 20dB.
Kenney was the best choice for the Who at that sad time. Kenney was a close personal friend of Keith and had great love and respect for Moonie. Small Faces and Who often toured together and were all friends. Kenney has said that Pete told him he would have no one else as Kenney was almost family. Kenney ALWAYS acknowledged there was only one Keith Moon. Bless you Kenney ❤
@@cindyfalstrom7231 Jones had been used as a rehearsal drummer for the Who for several years as Moon lived in Los Angeles or was otherwise unavailable.
I see what you're saying, but they all saw it coming from 1,000 miles away. He'd been in a serious state of decline for years, and the band was being severely hampered and crippled by his more and more frequent incapacity: Inability to play during recording sessions, passing out frequently, messing up during live shows. After some initial grief, I think they all kind of breathed a separate sigh of relief and were ready to move on -- strange as that may seem. The Who always had, among its 4 members, a tighter professional relationship than friendship. That doesn't mean they didn't learn to respect -- even love -- each other to a certain degree. That *has* to happen after years and years of touring, travelling, recording, talking, being in each others' lives. It's just that the foundation of their unity in the first place always remained the most dominant: Playing music, getting the job done no matter what. Keith Moon, perhaps, said it best himself in an interview in the late 60s: "I'd probably choose different friends...but never different musicians."
@@doorswhofan Thank you. I probably would not have enjoyed hanging out with him but there's such love in my heart for Moonie, the clown who wept privately.
I wasn't surprised. Moon was already a finanical liability. On one tour, they netted less than $100. You can't survive on that and that was all Keith's doing. His need to be funny and make people laugh cost a lot more than hearing loss.
We see it from a fan's perspective in that we saw Moon the Loon every couple years, laugh at his exploits and then go home. I'm sure they loved him dearly but conversely they were around him for some 15 years. 15 years in the midst of someone going full throttle and having to deal with the day to day fallouts of his exploits would be tiring at best and down right horrible at it's worst. As well at the end of the day they are a business, they have a product they need to produce and sell. If one of the four members starts to be an anchor to those commitments well.... As other have said as horrible as it was it wasn't a surprise to any of them. I know he was trying to get better but again that's a lot of water that went under the bridge.
I saw The Who in Ahoy Rotterdam. without Moon and John Entwistle. they were very good. In the pre-program The Cult, they were great too. 2 for the price of 1
Keith Moon was in Zappa’s 200 Motels where his character gets told they will die by OD on pills 💊 and years later he did, sadly 😢 Kenny Jones was perfect because the Who of the 80’s wouldn’t be the Who of the 60’s now would they?
This is what worries me about getting old. I was the biggest Who fan who read everything and went to NY to see the premiere of 'The Kids Are Alright'. I paid $100 bucks for a seat to a show that I already had a ticket for but this was closer and thru all that I can't remember Roger having short hair at the time and I saw them on this tour also and I remember Pete with the "Punkish" hair style that looked ridiculous on him.
Got to see 76 msg nyc by numbers tour..glad i saw moon .then saw.both jones tour msg .n shea stdmn...saw ox in 70's also academy music 14st nyc..now?? Im old
I saw the band around that time, the show after the death of the fans in Cincinnati. That was tragic. Keith Moon dying was more expected than tragic. I'm not saying that to be callous, but his wounds were self-inflicted and he made bad choices that took him where he ended up. He was a great drummer, my favorite from that era but a grown man who gets a kick out of destroying other people's property and pulling stunts like driving a car into a swimming pool is extremely immature and hedonistic, and by default pretty selfish. I can see why Townsend said he didn't mourn the guy. He expected him to die sooner than later I imagine. I'm not condoning it or supporting it, but I get it. I had friends who got lost to the drug culture and all of them were selfish as well. I was selfish as hell when I was a drunk. Like I say, Keith Moon was a great drummer, a real talent who left a mark. But he wasted a lot of years he could have had.
It’s obvious that after moon that version of the who was over. People should have realised it was going to be different. Page plant and jones didn’t want a new version.
Interesting to see the Setlist. “Dreaming“ seems to be referring to “Dreaming From The Waist’“ and is there twice. Won’t get fooled again isn’t there at all.
@@polishrocker93 Really? The devil/religion/government doesn't need much help demonizing drugs. It's pretty clear that without substances, a large percentage of the population would still be living.
@@polishrocker93 then expect to die young. Daltrey enjoyed himself but didn’t need the chemicals and is still enjoying life today. Keith was a mug I’m sorry to say.
What do you do when a legend dies. Hendrix, Morrison, Bonham. Bon Scott. Etc. It's sad, but the Who had several good songs after Kieth died. I actually remember when I was a child.
Simon Phillips was by far the best drummer The Who ever had, but Keith Moon was the best drummer for The Who. Starkey was the best choice after Moon died
No disrespect to Kenny but his style absolutely does not fit the Who. Hearing him play Baba O'Reilly just neutered the song. Thank god they found Zakk Starkey.
Kenny a much more structured drummer completely different stile brought the Who back to life. He was fantastic live. Great drummer enjoyed him playing with Who.
@@apollomemories7399 it was only ever Kenny Jones. A well documented story. Loads of people apparently offered, but it wasn't on the table. And they made right call.
@@heftosprod I wouldn't be too sure about that for several reasons. Albeit Jones had been in the inner-Who circle for some time as he was used as their rehearsal drummer when Moon was elsewhere, which was often. Jones had also recorded with Townshend previously. But by mid-79, when I talked to Townshend about it in Cornwall, where he was on a family holiday, he wasn't sure and was also working with another drummer then, Mark Brzezicki for his solo album Empty Glass. He said they could get any number of good drummers but the main problem was if that person could handle the Who. You think they made the right call with Kenney Jones. I don't and Simon Phillips, a far stronger drummer would have been better.
Basically he had to stay in Step with Moon who was overly fond of improvising fills and solos meaning Entwhistle was always wondering what moon would do next, Kenney is much more of a structured drummer allowing Entwistle more freedom to experiment himself.
@@bid84 Too bad for Entwistle. As great as he was, the signature rhythm sound of the Who would not have been the same without Moon driving the rhythm section. There is is reason bass players follow the drummer.
@@apollomemories7399 That's never true that the drummer follows the bass in the rhythm section. It couldn't work. And what best bands are led by the bass? When I think of some of the best musician gifted bands, JHE, Cream, ELP, Beatles, Chicago, Deep Purple, Sabath, Crimson, or Rush. Only Rush was led by their bass player. But he like in the Who, Lee did not lead the rhythm section either.
@@rman52 You're SO wrong. Where have you been all your life to not understand that Bill Wyman led the music played by The Rolling Stones? - the biggest band in the world, ever. Charlie Watts always followed Keith Richards. Wyman's bass always led from the front and Keith followed Bill. In the Who, Moon followed Townshend, hence, why he never used a drum riser so that he could see what Townshend was doing. Never mind your "best musician gifted band" where you list Beatles and Rush! Rush? Seriously? Their guitar player was just about average mediocre. If there was one thing the Beatles were not then that is "musician gifted". Lennon would have cracked up at you claiming he was any "gifted guitar player". And JHE, with Noel Redding on bass? Even Noel would laugh at you saying that. Why are you listing Crimson and ELP here? They have nothing to do with "rock" music. That's just foolish. The best "musician gifted" rock band was without doubt Led Zeppelin, considering 2 of the 3 musicians had been employed as studio musicians for many dozens of hit records. But, if you really want "musician gifted" in complete form, then you should be talking in terms of Frank Zappa, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report and Stomu Yamash'ta. Wow, and to think for all these years you never ever knew these facts, yet, here you are with an opinion? Behave yourself.
"" It cost us £15 which was three times the asking price! " That is now the answer to the question , how much were those two pints of lager? The Who had Keith Moon for 15 years, and now they've been without him for 45 at the time of writing!
Roger is the only one with decent, heart-felt comments. Townsend doesn't make sense. Entwistle actually sounds happy that Moon is gone. Kenny Jones' comments are appropriate and what you'd expect from someone who is asked to replace a legend.
God only knows but clearly if the Who returned to the extreme wild path after 1978 they had gone in 1975 and 1976 more members may have died along with the Band disbanding perhaps in the early 1980's. Bonham's and Others deaths may have scared them into quitting the road show for good.
@@BBQFanNo1 What are you talking about? Bonham's or anyone else's death had nothing to do with them. In fact, The Who went on a UK national tour in early 1980. And as another matter of fact, John Entwistle said the 1976 shows were some of the best shows the band ever played as Moon was on excellent form.
This might not go down well but I don't think they were even close to the same band after Keith died. I saw them in 81 and yes it was a great gig but no disrespect to Kenny it was average to good drumming, not what you'd have got with Keith at all, nowhere near.
Kenney was fine. Many gen xers grew up only knowing Kenney Jones as the drummer. The band didn’t want a Keith replacement and daltrey seemed to have issues with all band members and management.
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Kenny Jones deserves a lot of credit.He stepped into an impossible position.
we shot an interview with Kenny its on our page
@@Nyquest I saw it... good stuff. I was a kid when Face Dances and It's Hard came out.....then I found out about the Moon guy. Those albums are fantastic and I think have had a bit of a Renaissance. Great channel. Scott Gorham interview was great too. Thin Lizzy..... Fantastic Band.
He crushed it
not the right fit for the guy
@@walkingtal4157 Agreed, but who would have been a right fit?
Ox was prophetic. He played until the day he died literally. RIP Ox and Keith
wha? Keith is Dead? No f......kin way no way
He wanted to die before he got old!
Na he wanted to be cold@@michaelgill1203
@@SaraT-x4qor so we are told
John Entwistle was the most honest member of the band when he said he wanted to still play in a band no matter how old he is and Pete says hes mad but he`s still in the Who 42 years later
Narration says Pete was reluctant before Moon passed and would walk away from the Who, he's still talking that way today! Thank God it's not been so easy
Damn it’s so hard to believe 79’ was 44 years ago ! I was 13, I’d go back in a second 🐾✌️🇺🇸
Yep I was 17 and had the time of my life particularly that summer. Wish I could rewind and do it all over again.
@@mikeivey8169 Hell yeh, I ran around with my older cousins so I got a head start so to speak lol, great times I’d love to be poolside at the giant pool everybody used to go to.
@@mikeivey8169 Summer of 79 was special
Me too. 1966 baby.
Me too!
At 3:06, Kenny Jones said the perfect answer to the most difficult question. Always liked Kenny. With Small Faces, The Faces, Rod....he is the man.
He was tremendous with the Small Faces. That break in the middle of Happiness Stan where the drums come thundering in, going back and forth. One of the most memorable drum pieces I’ve ever heard.
.. Rod is the man??.. he's an arsexxxx
I was heavily into the Who in 79, its great to see Pete and Roger still doing it even after the deaths of Keith and John!!!! How fucking time flies! Enjoy what you can every time you can!!!!
@CidersAndReligiousCrusadesThat’s not how that works.
I have been following the WHO since 1971. They always Amaze me!!! Traveled 70 miles to see " The Kids Are Alright" film in 1979!!! I own all of their Studio songs. They have too many Live albums. Was glad they continued as a band and STILL are performing in 2025.
In my honest opinion Keith Moon was a great drummer irreplaceable a true legendary performer
He was unique. When you hear him, you know it's Keith and not Kenny for sure.
Saw the who in 79 at wembley stadium. Kenny did a phenomenal job. Amazing gig I'll never forget.
Hearing Pete's last statement while having just seen him live on stage only 3 days ago at the age of 78... some things just turn out different than we think.
@luishernndez8367 That they're mad if they think they will be touring in their 60s
Doesn't that make Pete bloody balmy as well.😅
Not really. Literally no one has not eventually died.
Pete’s said some horrible things about Keith and Entwistle recently. Horrible bloke
@@NiktheEnglishGreekCypriot At this point in his life Pete appears to be burning out or having residual drunkenness.😅 I'm sure half the time he doesn't really mean what he says.Deep down in his heart he really loved both of them.
I would have thought there'd be more of an aura of lament. I did like the Pete's remark, "Useful bugger, wasn't he?" They were extremely honest.
The 1979 Tour was my favorite Who tour. Great setlists and great performances. With Kenney and Rabbit, they played songs that they either couldn’t play with Keith or couldn’t play as well live, e.g. Music Must Change, Punk and The Godfather, Who Are You.
That was the year that all those people got trampled in Cincinnati, my friend was there and said it was absolutely nuts
Yea that incident put a damper on many who enjoyed going to concerts in those days, including me.
Yeah I also liked the horns and the improvised songs like 'Dance it Away', 'How Can You Do It Alone' and 'That's Rock 'n Roll.' I want the shows recorded on that tour released.
Yes, I wish The Who would release a deluxe, full-length, remastered concert cd and dvd of the Chicago show and the London show. Give this tour the same attention the 1969-70 Tour has received. Also, what about the 1980 Tour? Never saw any professional releases from that one.
Roger Daltrey hates Kenney Jones on drums so he's probably stopping any 79 - 82 releases....the only one being WHO'S LAST that has no songs from either FACE DANCES or ITS HARD....
kenny jones was the best drummer replacement that the WHo could have ever chosen...imho!!🔥
What do you think of Zak?
Kenney Jones was excellent on the 1979 Who tour which was one of their greatest ever
Yamaha CP-80 and CS-80 in the keyboard rig - top notch!
One of the greatest live bands of all time
Saw them twice in 79...Wembley Stadium and Bingley Hall Stafford.
Great as usual.
Fabulous documentary
So good to see BOB on sound he’s there magic man
Bob Pridden.
Pridden is the dude!
He's still there today and been there since 1966.
On back cover of Odds and Sods
Pete still looks stunned at the death of Keith.
Very stunned
Almost did ole Pete in as death of Brent did to Garcia
The Who was unique in that The Who wasn't actually a band in the accepted understanding of that term, but rather a compilation of four soloists, each doing his own thing, which were incredibly able to do together what not one, or two, or even three of them could have done apart from the others. When even a single component of The Who was missing, they were no longer The Who, and that which made them unique was gone forever.
King Crimson also has all members soloing at once, so The Who is not completely unique in this regard.
The who weren't just a band. They were a gang❤
@@polishrocker93Lol sure
@@daryllcornier4509- also accurate ... 😂
As I sit here thinking about the bands that I'm still listening to NOW, there actually are more than I realized that fit the "let's ALL go crazy but keep listening to each other" mold. I agree with that comment about the Who, and that's obviously true for Cream, and I'd add Jefferson Airplane. I've heard people say the same for Led Zeppelin, and The Doors, but arguably no band has as much experience organizing various groups of people into a collection of soloists - or at least "people who defined their collective sound" - as the Grateful Dead.
All of these bands had "people who defined their sound" either leave, or die. If you're willing to think of Blind Faith as "Cream with Jack Bruce's replacement(s)", all of them except the Doors and Led Zeppelin reformed, and even The Doors toured and recorded as a trio after Morrison's death. The results were bands who didn't sound the same, and that has to be ok. You can STILL find people who think the Grateful Dead didn't do anything good after Pigpen was too sick tour in the early 1970s - what they did was good, it just wasn't the same.
I’m sure Kenney appreciates everyone getting his name right.
Regarding people criticizing Pete and John's unemotional reponses to Keith's passing; if you hang around enough Brits, it's their "stiff upper lip" showing in their comments.
Actually, I am more amazed and touched by Roger's feelings. Since Keith's death, Roger has been his strongest champion.
I was 19 back then, the who was one of my all time favorites. Great band.
Saw The Who in 2012. The Quadrapenia tour! Starkey on drums. Pete’s brother on bass. It was amazing!!!!
That's great! But it wasn't The Who,was it?
~ Simon Townshend is a guitar player; wasn't it Pino Palladino on bass?
Pino Palladino on bass, Simon Townshend on rhythm guitar.
Kenney is such a charming guy
Kenney is a lovely guy, almost universally liked by all. He may not be as flashy as Moon, but still a serious, talented drummer. I agree that the problem w/Roger mostly revolved around money.
@@Capri-x8m I think that is true also. I have read both Kenney and Roger's memoirs. Differing points of view on what the problem was. It's hard to replace some one as beloved as Keith Mooney. Big shoes to fill and perhaps resentments can build. Too bad. Both of these guys are talented and very good people. I believe Roger said he liked Kenney, but in his opinion, wasn't right for the band.
I admire The Who for continuing on after Keiths death. Two bands who lost their drummers, Led Zeppelin and Rush lost their prominent drummers and called it a career as bands. The Who still goes on today with Roger and Pete still performing in 2023 as a duet. Check out their performance that occurred in June 2023.
And if we're giving credit to bands who went on after their prominent drummer died, let's give tremendous respect to The Stones, who havent missed a beat since Charlie's passing.
Rush is simply not Rush without Neil Peart. I think Geddy and Alex will probably play together live again someday, possibly only in Toronto, but they will definitely not be going by the name “Rush.”
@@gregbors8364 Agree. His footprint encircled every aspect of their music. Took ownership day one.
Moon one of the Greatest Drummers ever
And the funniest, x sure
In the final analysis, it was Pete, Roger and John who welcomed Kenny into their family, not us.😎🎸
At 2:28 there's a fragment that Kenney plays which is exactly the same as a fragment from the intro to Head for Backstage Pass by Jeff Beck
Good film never seen it before that time I think was good for them some great music and films
As their manager Bill Curbishley said, keith Moon death was predictable, John Entwistle death was unneccesary. Just glad roger & pete are still with us. Legendary Band.
- How does it feel to take Keith Moon's place?
- I'm not.
Such a great answer.
Kieth moon was an amazing drummer loved him RIP KEITH
The needed money. Especially Entwhistle. Plus as musicians, you cannot stop playing.
An incredible find and thanks 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Saw The Who on 2 Farewell Tours 1982 1997, A few gits whined "no Keith this sucks" as if he missed the 1982 gig for a silly reason. Oh yeah said Pete and turned up the volume another 20dB.
People should listen to what kenney is saying here and has said for the last 43 odd years people still think he replaced keith
Kenney was the best choice for the Who at that sad time. Kenney was a close personal friend of Keith and had great love and respect for Moonie. Small Faces and Who often toured together and were all friends. Kenney has said that Pete told him he would have no one else as Kenney was almost family. Kenney ALWAYS acknowledged there was only one Keith Moon. Bless you Kenney ❤
@@cindyfalstrom7231i agree they toured Australia and treated it like the shithole it is
@@cindyfalstrom7231 Jones had been used as a rehearsal drummer for the Who for several years as Moon lived in Los Angeles or was otherwise unavailable.
I always loved all the members of The Who, but I've always been kind of stunned by how easily they seemed to immediately get over Moon's death.
I see what you're saying, but they all saw it coming from 1,000 miles away. He'd been in a serious state of decline for years, and the band was being severely hampered and crippled by his more and more frequent incapacity: Inability to play during recording sessions, passing out frequently, messing up during live shows. After some initial grief, I think they all kind of breathed a separate sigh of relief and were ready to move on -- strange as that may seem. The Who always had, among its 4 members, a tighter professional relationship than friendship. That doesn't mean they didn't learn to respect -- even love -- each other to a certain degree. That *has* to happen after years and years of touring, travelling, recording, talking, being in each others' lives. It's just that the foundation of their unity in the first place always remained the most dominant: Playing music, getting the job done no matter what. Keith Moon, perhaps, said it best himself in an interview in the late 60s: "I'd probably choose different friends...but never different musicians."
@@doorswhofan Thank you. I probably would not have enjoyed hanging out with him but there's such love in my heart for Moonie, the clown who wept privately.
I wasn't surprised. Moon was already a finanical liability. On one tour, they netted less than $100. You can't survive on that and that was all Keith's doing. His need to be funny and make people laugh cost a lot more than hearing loss.
We see it from a fan's perspective in that we saw Moon the Loon every couple years, laugh at his exploits and then go home. I'm sure they loved him dearly but conversely they were around him for some 15 years. 15 years in the midst of someone going full throttle and having to deal with the day to day fallouts of his exploits would be tiring at best and down right horrible at it's worst. As well at the end of the day they are a business, they have a product they need to produce and sell. If one of the four members starts to be an anchor to those commitments well.... As other have said as horrible as it was it wasn't a surprise to any of them. I know he was trying to get better but again that's a lot of water that went under the bridge.
Shock, but expected given his hard driving personality, He himself feared having to be on anytime in public and it was inherently pressurized
Best I’ve seen Rodger look since the high numbers
He looks 90% 1965 here.
@@Capri-x8m He was the 'Meaty' in Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy after all.
I saw The Who in Ahoy Rotterdam. without Moon and John Entwistle. they were very good. In the pre-program The Cult, they were great too. 2 for the price of 1
How cool is Roger? The ultimate mod. Coat n scarf, mod cut.
He never wanted to be a mod though.
Looks like his 'Mcvicar' haircut.
Keith Moon was in Zappa’s 200 Motels where his character gets told they will die by OD on pills 💊 and years later he did, sadly 😢
Kenny Jones was perfect because the Who of the 80’s wouldn’t be the Who of the 60’s now would they?
The Who of the 80's still would not have been The Who of the 60's with Keith Moon or anyone for that matter.
This is what worries me about getting old. I was the biggest Who fan who read everything and went to NY to see the premiere of 'The Kids Are Alright'. I paid $100 bucks for a seat to a show that I already had a ticket for but this was closer and thru all that I can't remember Roger having short hair at the time and I saw them on this tour also and I remember Pete with the "Punkish" hair style that looked ridiculous on him.
Thank you
Got to see 76 msg nyc by numbers tour..glad i saw moon .then saw.both jones tour msg .n shea stdmn...saw ox in 70's also academy music 14st nyc..now?? Im old
so these guys were ahead of their time in terms of music but also in terms of visual arts (holography etc...).
I saw the band around that time, the show after the death of the fans in Cincinnati. That was tragic. Keith Moon dying was more expected than tragic. I'm not saying that to be callous, but his wounds were self-inflicted and he made bad choices that took him where he ended up. He was a great drummer, my favorite from that era but a grown man who gets a kick out of destroying other people's property and pulling stunts like driving a car into a swimming pool is extremely immature and hedonistic, and by default pretty selfish.
I can see why Townsend said he didn't mourn the guy. He expected him to die sooner than later I imagine. I'm not condoning it or supporting it, but I get it. I had friends who got lost to the drug culture and all of them were selfish as well. I was selfish as hell when I was a drunk. Like I say, Keith Moon was a great drummer, a real talent who left a mark. But he wasted a lot of years he could have had.
I love the Kenny Jones era
Joined Paul Rodgers in the excellent Law project! One of my all time Rock fav albums
It’s obvious that after moon that version of the who was over. People should have realised it was going to be different. Page plant and jones didn’t want a new version.
That version of The Who ended on the 1976 tour.
'widely regarded as a musician' in reference to their drummer??? Whut! That line would have fit perfectly in Spinal Tap.
I think the statement was meant to be understood as “he was widely [well] regarded”.
Kenny Jones very humble moon was a octopus unreplacable.
Great to see this with 40 more years plus, perspective, Love em to death
2:41 breakbeat loop. You're welcome.
Keith is unreplaceable
Interesting to see the Setlist. “Dreaming“ seems to be referring to “Dreaming From The Waist’“ and is there twice. Won’t get fooled again isn’t there at all.
~ Townshend has said he hated playing "Dreaming From The Waist."
Too bad John left us in a similar way Keith did, albeit years on. Drugs/Alcohol are the Devils work.
Nah, he died having fun and doing what he loved. Demonizing drugs/alcohol is the devil/religions/governments work.
@@polishrocker93 Really? The devil/religion/government doesn't need much help demonizing drugs. It's pretty clear that without substances, a large percentage of the population would still be living.
Hail Satan!
Yes sir your right!! Unfortunately that’s what happens to a lot of musicians and wHo are misinformed and deceived.
@@polishrocker93 then expect to die young. Daltrey enjoyed himself but didn’t need the chemicals and is still enjoying life today. Keith was a mug I’m sorry to say.
Deep Purple was the loudest band in the world Guinness book of records!
The girl @4:10 is awesome!
I thought as much
to think she is now someone's granny
@@liberioescriba6158 Yes....but a cool granny🙂
Townsend brutal, but honest
What do you do when a legend dies. Hendrix, Morrison, Bonham. Bon Scott. Etc. It's sad, but the Who had several good songs after Kieth died. I actually remember when I was a child.
Love to go back to 1972 😀
McVigar was really Good! Rog did an Amazing Job!
He did and the music is excellent I've got the soundtrack on vinyl it's a who album not in name
the group created films too.....same with Pink Floyd and the Beatles.....
Holography? That-s a big word, Roger!
I’m playing with the ‘oo now…
Simon Phillips was by far the best drummer The Who ever had, but Keith Moon was the best drummer for The Who. Starkey was the best choice after Moon died
Im a huge SP fan, but its way easier to play like philips, than keith moon. Fact.
@deebop4904 You've gotta be kidding pal....
@@Colinl3052 nope it's a fact. There are many SPs.
I always think Philthy Phil Taylor from Motorhead would have done the job justice
@@Penfold-zr2be I don't reckon. Wrong personality and not sophisticated enough.
Is that Paul Merton in the queue at 4:12 midway between the two police? Looks like him and about the right age for then....
They played "Dreaming from the Waist" twice in that set list?
I always begin my documentaries with a piercing shrill tone
This is just before Pete had his midlife crisis and started dressing like a duran duran roadie
Cruel... but fair.
He was also into dressing and dancing like Mick Jones and Paul Simenon. Example : videos of You Better .., and Tricky Day. He did it well, mind!
No disrespect to Kenny but his style absolutely does not fit the Who. Hearing him play Baba O'Reilly just neutered the song. Thank god they found Zakk Starkey.
Kenny a much more structured drummer completely different stile brought the Who back to life. He was fantastic live. Great drummer enjoyed him playing with Who.
What does John say at 9:12?
Think he says "wigs are cheap nowadays!! "
Meaning only physical impairment would stop him playing, not appearance!! 😄
Loudest band in the world weren't still Deep Purple at the time?
Anyway they asked to Ian Paice to join the band but he rejected.
No they didnt
@@heftosprod It's quite possible that he was asked as he wasn't doing much between Jan 78, when PAL folded and Aug 79, when he joined Whitesnake
@@apollomemories7399 it was only ever Kenny Jones. A well documented story. Loads of people apparently offered, but it wasn't on the table. And they made right call.
@@heftosprod I wouldn't be too sure about that for several reasons.
Albeit Jones had been in the inner-Who circle for some time as he was used as their rehearsal drummer when Moon was elsewhere, which was often. Jones had also recorded with Townshend previously. But by mid-79, when I talked to Townshend about it in Cornwall, where he was on a family holiday, he wasn't sure and was also working with another drummer then, Mark Brzezicki for his solo album Empty Glass. He said they could get any number of good drummers but the main problem was if that person could handle the Who. You think they made the right call with Kenney Jones. I don't and Simon Phillips, a far stronger drummer would have been better.
@@apollomemories7399 I dont agree on simon Phillips. Great player and musician of course. Aping moon wouldve been a real error.
Kenny Jones saved The Who. Period. No one was better suited for the band then Kenny.
No he didn't - he was utterly wrong for the part.
@@LaughingStock_Kenney did a great job for the Who.
@@LaughingStock_ nope. Aping moon would've been foolish.
In my opinion, The Who is not The Who without “The Loon”.
15 quid for ticket now its about130
Great clip! That sounds like the BBC legend Mark Radcliffe doing the interviews but surely too young at the time?!
I Love Kenny… He’s So Hot 🔥
Same Goes for Roger… 🔥
No disrespect to previous drummers but they lost something unique visually and musically when Kieth passed
I think you mean subsequent drummers.
@@fattymcfatso1083 ha ha. Yes. Silly me. I’m showing my age
@@nicksmart5469 Ah Ok. no problem, mate.
I am perplexed by Entwistle saying that playing with Moon tied him down to Keith's rhythms. What did he mean by that?
Basically he had to stay in Step with Moon who was overly fond of improvising fills and solos meaning Entwhistle was always wondering what moon would do next, Kenney is much more of a structured drummer allowing Entwistle more freedom to experiment himself.
@@bid84 Too bad for Entwistle. As great as he was, the signature rhythm sound of the Who would not have been the same without Moon driving the rhythm section. There is is reason bass players follow the drummer.
@@rman52 Not too sure about that. The best bands are led by the bass player.
@@apollomemories7399 That's never true that the drummer follows the bass in the rhythm section. It couldn't work.
And what best bands are led by the bass? When I think of some of the best musician gifted bands, JHE, Cream, ELP, Beatles, Chicago, Deep Purple, Sabath, Crimson, or Rush. Only Rush was led by their bass player. But he like in the Who, Lee did not lead the rhythm section either.
@@rman52 You're SO wrong. Where have you been all your life to not understand that Bill Wyman led the music played by The Rolling Stones? - the biggest band in the world, ever. Charlie Watts always followed Keith Richards. Wyman's bass always led from the front and Keith followed Bill.
In the Who, Moon followed Townshend, hence, why he never used a drum riser so that he could see what Townshend was doing.
Never mind your "best musician gifted band" where you list Beatles and Rush! Rush? Seriously? Their guitar player was just about average mediocre. If there was one thing the Beatles were not then that is "musician gifted". Lennon would have cracked up at you claiming he was any "gifted guitar player". And JHE, with Noel Redding on bass? Even Noel would laugh at you saying that.
Why are you listing Crimson and ELP here? They have nothing to do with "rock" music. That's just foolish.
The best "musician gifted" rock band was without doubt Led Zeppelin, considering 2 of the 3 musicians had been employed as studio musicians for many dozens of hit records.
But, if you really want "musician gifted" in complete form, then you should be talking in terms of Frank Zappa, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Weather Report and Stomu Yamash'ta.
Wow, and to think for all these years you never ever knew these facts, yet, here you are with an opinion? Behave yourself.
"None of us were really consumed with grief."
Pete was such an ass, and still is.
"" It cost us £15 which was three times the asking price! " That is now the answer to the question , how much were those two pints of lager? The Who had Keith Moon for 15 years, and now they've been without him for 45 at the time of writing!
Roger is the only one with decent, heart-felt comments. Townsend doesn't make sense. Entwistle actually sounds happy that Moon is gone. Kenny Jones' comments are appropriate and what you'd expect from someone who is asked to replace a legend.
Entwistle and Moon were BEST FRIENDS in The Who. You might want to pull your head out of your...
@@4orrcountry Yeah i couldn't imagine Entwistle sounding more broken up had his own Mum died .🙄🙄 Wow. Keith's dead. Now I can play how I wanna play. .
Is it true that PeteTownsend can't play single notes but only chords?
The answer to that is no.
Could it not be more clear after watching this that Keith dying actually saved The Who?
God only knows but clearly if the Who returned to the extreme wild path after 1978 they had gone in 1975 and 1976 more members may have died along with the Band disbanding perhaps in the early 1980's. Bonham's and Others deaths may have scared them into quitting the road show for good.
@@BBQFanNo1 What are you talking about? Bonham's or anyone else's death had nothing to do with them. In fact, The Who went on a UK national tour in early 1980. And as another matter of fact, John Entwistle said the 1976 shows were some of the best shows the band ever played as Moon was on excellent form.
This might not go down well but I don't think they were even close to the same band after Keith died. I saw them in 81 and yes it was a great gig but no disrespect to Kenny it was average to good drumming, not what you'd have got with Keith at all, nowhere near.
Kenney was fine. Many gen xers grew up only knowing Kenney Jones as the drummer. The band didn’t want a Keith replacement and daltrey seemed to have issues with all band members and management.
Who?
Daltry should have never cut his hair
He has to, to play John McVicar.
Pete's comments on Keith are so strange.
I always thought Pete was a weird, uncharismatic person and this confirms it.
There's something about Pete.
Most of the commenters here are American, I doubt they queued up in Parkas and claret DM s. England in the 70s and 80s, great times.
Ian Paice would have been a better replacement for Keith Moon...
I agree one hundred percent
Mitch Mitchell
@davehoward22 Yes another good choice!
@@bartrobinson2103 Jon Bonham - he had a year left to live in 1979...
@@alastairwest5200 Sad but true
Who’s that 10 year old girl behind Pete’s amps? 😂
pete and kenny had a thing
Roger giving Pete the stink eye at :55 because he realizes Kenney is not the right drummer for The Who.
They went down hill when Keith died...
Kenney
Does Townsend have the biggest nose in the history of rock music?
It's a toss up between him and Ray Davies lol
@@Capri-x8m You're right.....Frank has an epic honors lol
Honker.....oops