Fleeced - the raw injustice of perpetual leases on Māori land

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  • Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
  • In this new video investigation from the Mata Reports series by the Aotearoa Media Collective, reporter Mihingarangi Forbes highlights an ongoing and confronting land injustice.
    Read more on newsroom.co.nz

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  • @W_Bin
    @W_Bin 4 місяці тому +49

    😇🥰 This is the journalism New Zealand needs. "What does it say about 1 law for all New Zealanders?" It is racist and violates the Bill of Rights, that's what. The leases should be cancelled forthwith and the government should compensate both the lessees and the owners, on the same formula as for stolen land.
    A disincentive to pass negative racially discriminatory legislation in future. 26,000 hectares is insignificant economically. The govt administers over 2 million hectares. which must be about 5% of total land.
    Follow the money of Oates. Get it back, it was fraud. Shocking.
    Where Is there a petition to do this? I will sign it.
    Patama Potaka and his parties are PsOS. Give $2.9b tax payers money to 300 landlords but won't spend $400m buying out leases where the landowners are living in cars and getting $17 a year for land they should be living on and profiting from.
    This is why we need our independent national broadcaster.

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 4 місяці тому +2

      ABSOLUTELY 🙌

    • @W_Bin
      @W_Bin 4 місяці тому

      @RNZ feel free to retweet.

    • @Kult365
      @Kult365 3 місяці тому +7

      This comment is all you need to know.

  • @reecenicol6306
    @reecenicol6306 4 місяці тому +32

    As a Pakeha 5th generation New Zealander, I am embarrassed and ashamed. We as a Nation have allowed this unethical landgrab to happen.
    The ACT party is calling for all New Zealanders to be treated equally, if they truly believe this, then this coalition Government will Repeal these Perpetual Pepper corn leasers and restore the rights of the land owners to their 'own' whenua.
    'Come on David Seymour -what da ya say'!

    • @MG-fr3tn
      @MG-fr3tn 12 днів тому

      Same old rort by a few costing the country's future.

  • @leytonsmith9258
    @leytonsmith9258 4 місяці тому +30

    I never knew !!! And now I understand just a bit more why Maori have such beef with the crown

  • @nicbutterworth729
    @nicbutterworth729 4 місяці тому +22

    Very enlightening. This was incredibly interesting and I agree with them. These are people that must have their land returned.
    It is theirs, they own it. It is acknowledged in the perpetual lease documents that they own it. It was not purchased from them in any form at any time.
    What amazing people bringing their case with decorum, clarity and dignity
    Unlike Willy Jackson who shouts over the top of everyone sidetracking off onto other topics and never letting anyone have a say on anything and is so annoying I turn off the sound on my TV before he even starts speaking.
    And also Rawiri Waititi with his aggressive attitude and threats, disruptions to the lives of others who are not involved through strikes and marches, thinking that by bullying, shouting and being a general nuisance he will get his own way.

    • @zackysullivan2088
      @zackysullivan2088 4 місяці тому +8

      Its basically frustration after 184 years regarding perpetual leases

  • @ooo-vc4xl
    @ooo-vc4xl 4 місяці тому +42

    As a Pakeha Kiwi I am appalled at how Maori have been treated over almost two centuries. The perpetual leases should be cancelled even if it requires a 20 to 30-year time horizon to cancellation for existing lease holders to gain financial/economic value out of the remainder of the 20-30 lease to offset improvements or debt incurred. (The alternative of the Crown buying out the leases seems unlikely)

    • @dallasstrom1308
      @dallasstrom1308 4 місяці тому +12

      Only by the unity of our people we can write the wrongs of the past and move to a brighter future for all New Zealanders. We must unite and stand up to an oppressive government trying to slowly eradicate us. My ancestors wanted us to share our country not to be pushed out of it. All we want is what is rightfully ours. A right to self determination.
      We don’t have to be like the rest of the world. We can go our own way.

    • @Flying_GC
      @Flying_GC 4 місяці тому

      ​@dallasstrom1308 do you not understand the utter hypocrisy of your comments? You want unity, ie you want the majority to just accept your so called rights to basically do what you want, and you want self determination, but you still want to have your cake and eat it too with everyone else contributing. It's actually mind blowing in 2024, this divisive rhetoric is being pushed by media. Fortunately it won't and never will fly, until the NZ people are united part of your statement is achieved, the country will keep going backwards. I haven't seen the mainstream media covering the disgusting behavior of the maori party of late, but hey that's ok. New Zealand citizens are no more or less special than the next one, the sooner people get this through their heads the better.

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 4 місяці тому +6

      At the very least, cancel the leases but in the run up to that, pay the LANDOWNERS market rates.
      If the Farmers will not pay, then Central Government must!!!
      The 20-30 years timeframe gives time to set all necessary parts into balance, like any learnings and preparations both 'sides' and what an amazing change for everyone 💞🥰 ❤

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 4 місяці тому

      All while Māori, Pākehā and Everyone Else work things out about what we do to be the ultimate place to be❤
      Inclusive, Democratic ALL OF OUR COUNTRY🙌👍
      This current COAL-ition gubbament are NOT BEING DEMOCRATIC😮

    • @melaniethompson4645
      @melaniethompson4645 8 днів тому

      $$$$ you potaka

  • @Eastckast
    @Eastckast 4 місяці тому +24

    Disgusting..!!
    The Crown must be held accountable for this..!!

  • @raewynkireland1050
    @raewynkireland1050 3 місяці тому +7

    So very well done. Thank you. It should be viewing for everyone in Aotearoa.

  • @LeonaMakatea
    @LeonaMakatea 3 місяці тому +7

    This Government must repeal these Perpetual leases and compensate both parties. Having said that, our own Tangatawhenua, every year when the crown visiting Ratana and Waitangi, give and allow the government the right to continue for another semester governing. Ticking all the boxes. Our own are just as shameful.

  • @1969utube
    @1969utube 4 місяці тому +10

    At the very least and until this injustice to land owners can be corrected, ANY leasehold put on the market should be purchased back by the government, cancelled and handed back to the true owners. I cannot understand how such an unjustifiable act can be upheld in our nations courts? If the High Court of Australia can recognise the flaw of Terra Nullius then surely they can resolve against the government of New Zealand in maintaining legislation which is so fundamentally flawed in law! (and yes, I am 5th generation Pakeha from farming families on both sides. I note that while my Great Grandfather was offered leasehold land on his return from WWI, the Great Grandfather of these Māori returned from WWI to find his land taken and leased out. According to the document cited by the journalist in this video, the witness to this landowner’s enlistment papers was the same individual who engineered the confiscation of his land. It defies belief!

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 4 місяці тому +1

      Unfortunately the dishonesty, Greed and Cruelty is nothing new.
      Now we know about it ✊
      My family goes back around 140 years and just over 120 years as far as I can work out.
      Irish, English and now G-Ma and GG-Ma to Tangata Whenua ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @1969utube
      @1969utube 4 місяці тому +2

      @@cherylreid2964 totally agree. What I really appreciate about this article is the indisputable, in our face evidence which debunks all the ridiculous arguments to the contrary. Documented proof presented in a clear and concise way of the level of dishonesty undertaken so flagrantly and without any regard for the law.

  • @Nicole.1828
    @Nicole.1828 4 місяці тому +14

    The middle man (government or council)?isn’t necessary. Give back the land. Allow the current leases to run and then allow Māori land owners to either to continue leasing or do as they choose.

    • @sclark9011
      @sclark9011 4 місяці тому +1

      That's what they did at Waikaremoana...gave back the responsibility to Maori.....very soon the tracks and huts of the great walk fell into disrepair ...the taxpayer money given to maori kaitiaki for maintenance was squandered elsewhere. Then maori asked doc to come back and take over the running of the place again. Misplaced racial incitement saw maori burning taxpayer provided huts for safety of hunters and trampers under the guise of "Cleansing the land of colonisation".
      Leasing covers some of the maintenance costs of mowing and prevents the land becoming a dumping ground, weed infested and reverting back to overgrown fire hazards of gorse and scrub, which happens repeatedly throughout all new zealand. young move away from the rural areas for employment, leaving the old and frail kaumatua with the mahi of the whenua and marae they are no longer capable of.

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому

      @@sclark9011 Well that's not true at all. Even your starting sentence is bullshit. It's co-governed, not singularly owned. Iwi own the lake itself (by name and responsibility only) and DOC own all the structures. It's also a hell of a lot more complicated than you make it out to be, like when you pretended the money was spent, when it's still sitting in the same account Tūhoe have been refusing to access since 2016.
      It's been closed because of the cyclone damage from 2023, BUT you did prove the exact kind of bullshit we're fighting. Thanks for being the example of why people shouldn't lie.

    • @sclark9011
      @sclark9011 2 місяці тому

      @@tanepukenga1421 Talking about bull putty, since when do Maori not spend kawanatanga money sitting in a pocket burning a hole. If all the money is still sitting there untouched as you claim because of some porangi grievance from the past what is the purpose of lazy do nothing and still asking for more money from te Kawanatanga? Looks like the biggest fight you are having is with your selves and your own porangi tekau ma tiko tanga teka tanga. This further highlights the total nonsense of Co-Governance and the real reasons maori are wanting to stick their nose into where the putea is.

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому

      @@sclark9011 As untouched as DOC claim, "genius". Try googling what you're talking about, everyone will think you're LESS of a fool. I mean, obvs, they already know you are, but it'll be less cringeworthy when you can't be debunked with a single acronym. And what the fuck are you on about "governor's money"? Or let me guess, you don't actually know any reo and were trying to bullshit your way through it? Or were you trying to say "owner's money" and fucked it up like everything you do?

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому

      @@sclark9011 Might want to try something other than nonsense te reo. Or learn how to spell, again, your choice

  • @markdev4796
    @markdev4796 4 місяці тому +10

    In many cases this is not just impacted the poor Maori land owners but also general tax payers are subsidising cheap land to farmers as Government fiddles around the edges with no solutions.

  • @dodoxasaurus6904
    @dodoxasaurus6904 4 місяці тому +11

    so sad this is always swept under the rug

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому

      That's the thing - it never was. They just called everyone who complained to tried to bring it to the forefront as "radical Maori" like they have done when they were trying to remove te reo from everything. What was it luxon said? We were "acting illegally" by protesting?

  • @dallasstrom1308
    @dallasstrom1308 4 місяці тому +15

    Keep Talking ppl. This must go viral. Power to the ppl. Our European brothers need to see the truth behind the lies that have been going on for far too long. This is the reason why we need our own governance, times up Crown. "We got to take the power back" (Rage Against the Machine).

    • @Flying_GC
      @Flying_GC 4 місяці тому

      Wow didn't see this comment, even more deranged than your last one. Let us all know how this works out for you in a few years.

  • @Kult365
    @Kult365 4 місяці тому +12

    Thank you Peter Cunningham for acknowledging this injustice.

  • @christophermarshall527
    @christophermarshall527 3 місяці тому +5

    Our C-lister Luxon's Gov't prefers ever changing rhetoric instead of providing justice or improvements for New Zealanders.
    Dishing out money to 'some' landlords, including many MP's, takes priority.

  • @jessicachandler5136
    @jessicachandler5136 4 місяці тому +6

    Straight up racist system that needs to have ended better than it did in Trīti "settlements" for Taranaki Iwis.

  • @sheznez
    @sheznez 4 місяці тому +6

    Ppl that voted for the 3 parties that are changing everything about this country for the worse esp those who voted for them and now regret it so shameful I don't even blame.this current govt anymore I blame those who voted for them

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 4 місяці тому

      Yes. Those people swallowed the Propaganda of LIES and Exaggeration when the truth was in News Articles, Parliament Speeches, etc and Statistics 🙌
      In this information age it's shameful.
      I chose to vote Te Paati Maaori this last election.
      I am 69, Pākehā and Irish/English (etc?) many of my ancestors arrived 140- ish years ago in AotearoaNZL.
      White Privilege set us up 🛑
      RESPECT WILL BALANCE ⚖️

    • @W_Bin
      @W_Bin 4 місяці тому +1

      You can't blame the people who voted for them. They have no understanding.
      Blame the people who tricked the voters. That is the parties, and their backers.
      Blame our education system which dumbs people. No education about democracy. No education about history. No education about business or finance.

  • @milleniumfalcon8654
    @milleniumfalcon8654 4 місяці тому +5

    All designed to keep Maori in check also expected to fight wars for 👑 that colonized themi, why Ruakinana said let the white man fight the white mans wat

  • @brucelines9745
    @brucelines9745 3 місяці тому +1

    That’s adding to the problems today . I hope we can find peace and work as brothers to build a fair future for all .

  • @jamesbroughton4706
    @jamesbroughton4706 3 місяці тому +3

    kinda comitted its completely wrong yet they continue to up hold it wow shit yes they should get their land back absolutely thats stealing hats off to the journalist

  • @uggali
    @uggali 4 місяці тому +5

    Do we think we should make the government pay for their legislation? I mean, they invented the perpetual lease system. Or should the Pākehā just cut their losses and return the land with improvements as rent?

    • @MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS
      @MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS 2 місяці тому

      Is there ever any end? Like when does it stop, when the last colonizer returns to England?

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому

      @@MINDYOUROWNBUISINESS How about when people have stopped using the law to steal from us? Is that too much to ask, less than what a non-maori citizen can expect?

    • @ourpeople-g7r
      @ourpeople-g7r 15 днів тому

      @@tanepukenga1421 What is been stolen from the maoris in 2024? You stated that people are using the law to steal from you.

  • @jamesbroughton4706
    @jamesbroughton4706 3 місяці тому +2

    he is certainly uncomfortale to discuss it

  • @pouwakaruwhiu8349
    @pouwakaruwhiu8349 3 місяці тому +2

    Love your videos please show more, from Pouwaka Ruwhiu

  • @jamietownsend7545
    @jamietownsend7545 Місяць тому +2

    Potaka kupapa wouldn't even look her in the eye when she asked him questions

  • @W_Bin
    @W_Bin 4 місяці тому +2

    Repeal the legislation and return the land. The Government took it, receivers of stolen property have less claim than the true owners. Too bad for them, they have had their profit.

  • @labellaangora6887
    @labellaangora6887 3 місяці тому +1

    You would think this would be something the waitangi tribunal would deal with

  • @gedbogjid2218
    @gedbogjid2218 4 місяці тому +7

    its always racism

    • @PapaBaush
      @PapaBaush 4 місяці тому +2

      Wish it didn’t have to be… but

    • @cherylreid2964
      @cherylreid2964 4 місяці тому

      CHANGE IS HAPPENING🙌
      The division and RACE-BAITING INCITEMENT against Māori by both ACT and National Parties in opposition set us up!
      National 38% of 75%
      ACT 8.6%
      NZ 1ST 6%
      Who is the bleeping Govt?!
      ATLAS NETWORK???¿

  • @silita6193
    @silita6193 4 місяці тому +5

    share this story to Aotearoa tribes thumbs up

  • @Tangatawhenua001
    @Tangatawhenua001 4 місяці тому +4

    Yep the government order of the day maori didn't want to do anything to the land pakeha government ussurped the land that didn't belong to them against wishes and behind some land holders backs gave it to tetumu paeroa who the fuck are they...

    • @ourpeople-g7r
      @ourpeople-g7r 15 днів тому

      I own land that used to belong to the maoris. The maoris will never get the land back. Every day I sit back, put my feet up and look out over my land with a big smile on my face. It is a wonderful feeling knowing that the maoris are really pissed off about it.

    • @lifes_abeach6040
      @lifes_abeach6040 15 днів тому

      ​@ourpeople-g7r 😂 but how come you sound broke

    • @melaniethompson4645
      @melaniethompson4645 8 днів тому

      @@ourpeople-g7rdisgusting excuse of a human, wouldn’t expect anything less of you and your kind

    • @ourpeople-g7r
      @ourpeople-g7r 8 днів тому

      @@melaniethompson4645 😂😂😂Yor meaningless words won´t change a thing. I still own something that the maoris want back but they´re shit out of luck😂😂😂

  • @Skii-l5c
    @Skii-l5c Місяць тому

    I know the whakataka family from Hamilton from tokomaru Bay. So it's a forced lease as perpetual lease, its treated different because they claim your land from a constract estate as a adopted parents to harvest your infant state, now it looks like nonbody government as a theft. MAori don't own land as a colonizer its the trick and now they entreat you. The MAori are the debtor, they took your land by settlement claim you gave your sovereignty over to your queen or your whakawhanaungatanga over for protection from the crown. You can say wat a steal. It is legislation they are using, you own nothing if you keep paying rent. Its the crown at fault its the government at fault, fraudulent. Yes they co know its call ignorance. Oh nice it states that William Oats signed, your Papa wasnt ment to come home. Nothing is hard thank you for sharing. I know wat this is all about, you have the main constract to left

  • @arnoldtrotter806
    @arnoldtrotter806 Місяць тому +2

    have a little talk with a moriori the one you didn't get to eat

    • @melaniethompson4645
      @melaniethompson4645 8 днів тому

      Why don’t you, it was your kind that went to Rēkohu first, maaori didn’t know about mori iti until your lot took them there as prisoners and wrongly enslaved them. Only ones seemingly talking about the moriori are your lot, paakeha, always shifting the focus from yourselves cause ya can’t deal with the facts.

  • @tomrobinson8593
    @tomrobinson8593 17 днів тому

    Your explanation is good , but the words you chose is all that needs to further the opportunity to reclaim. You use the word 'Never" and that is enough for the ears of power to elongate the lease without leaving the armchair, so when giving your story, refrain from words such as Never and the like.. it goes against a good argument. Kia ora!

  • @PatrickBarnes-s8r
    @PatrickBarnes-s8r Місяць тому

    How do you farm a postage stamp ,give back to entitled familys that originally lived there then try for consensus on how to farm productively

  • @laurence7426
    @laurence7426 4 місяці тому +1

    All u need to do is prove if reserve land no lease longer than 21 years
    Conclusion illegal not valid simple
    No person can change reserves act fact no judge king or priminister only the authority why
    hasn't this happened? Fact if bare land indigenous have first option
    If registered indigenous 3x3 lease
    Only valid fact ....

  • @melaniethompson4645
    @melaniethompson4645 8 днів тому

    Maaori were absolutely ripped off

  • @IMAGINZATION
    @IMAGINZATION Місяць тому

    Before you start talking down this path, isn't human life more important? Why then, after ECT has been recognized as torture, are there still 24 ECT machines spread through NZ public hospitals and in USE?! Why have they not been confiscated? Psychiatrists have proven themselves as untrustworthy and should not be permitted to use their WEAPON against NZ citizens to destroy lives. The victims have still not been compensated.

  • @michaelpeters7351
    @michaelpeters7351 Місяць тому

    Daylight robbery 🤬🤬

  • @andyblick6735
    @andyblick6735 4 місяці тому

    The crown is the king. Charles is the biggest landowner of NZ lands...Why should that be?

  • @melaniethompson4645
    @melaniethompson4645 8 днів тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @rayandrews4825
    @rayandrews4825 2 місяці тому

    So shocking

  • @MG-fr3tn
    @MG-fr3tn 12 днів тому

    This is forgottdn and the worst rort.

  • @WayneKilgour-sr5wv
    @WayneKilgour-sr5wv 23 дні тому

    One eyed journalism.
    All land in NZ is under perpetual lease .
    The entire easy coast , from Hicks to Gisbourne, from the ranges to the sea was given to Maori after the 2nd WE.
    A clause was put on this gift , stating , if a certain percentage of arible land turned back to native bush it would be returned to the government.
    Maori youth headed for the city and there was no one the work the land .
    This is still the case , Maori don't want to work, they just want easy money.

    • @orrinransfield2569
      @orrinransfield2569 23 дні тому

      Yes that massive parcel of land is owned by my family and extended family to date our family has received 50 grand split between more than 500 families the lease holders and there families have become very wealthy because they illegally used far more land than they were supposed to and then didn't want to pay they had been using it for 60 + years when they got caught and even though the payment would have been a tiny amount to them they refused rand just agreed to stop using it. Still we are unable to use the land ourselves because we would have to buy out the current lease holder at current market rate for the fully developed property valuation, not the 5% of undeveloped land value back in the early to late 90s now that is all the lease holders have had to pay for this whole time. But somehow we are accused of being greedy lazy thieving dole bludgers. I have work full time since I was 14 still finished high school and paid my own way through University I have tried to use our our land but the bank will not approve even a tiny loan to help with buying back the lease even if we have cash deposit. You seem perfectly happy to give the real greedy crook who's made millions probably shouldn't talk out of your ass so much your breath just ganna smell of sh*t.

    • @lifes_abeach6040
      @lifes_abeach6040 15 днів тому +1

      I've worked since 16 35 now I'm working my whanua land even brought land back that was taken 😂 and I was brought up in the city

    • @WayneKilgour-sr5wv
      @WayneKilgour-sr5wv 14 днів тому

      If you mean hunting , which really means raping land as the Maori back in the 1800s did. 🤑
      Or do you mean , clearing native bush so you can farm as the colonials did.
      What do you do?

  • @banapuru
    @banapuru 25 днів тому

    2 Chronicles 7 (KJV)
    ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
    ¹¹ Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king's house: and all that came into Solomon's heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.
    ¹² And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.
    ¹³ If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;
    ¹⁴ If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
    ¹⁵ Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
    ¹⁶ For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

    • @banapuru
      @banapuru 25 днів тому

      God's people are people with manaakitanga... Right in the center of the heart of Maori... New mihi whanau😊

  • @LaurenHill-nu8wk
    @LaurenHill-nu8wk 3 місяці тому

    Wot do u think abowt Maaori trusts that disenfranchise their whakapapa? For xample, I disagree with granting a 99 year perpetual lease on a small block of whaanau land to my aunty and her children. I am not part of the bene roll and am therefore excluded from voting. Is that similar 2 wot central and local bodies do with perpetual leases? Perpetual whakapapa🤑

  • @hailzreignmanga
    @hailzreignmanga 3 місяці тому

    Now you know

  • @the1likenutez
    @the1likenutez Місяць тому +1

    Stolen Māori land, the damage of racist colonial systems has caused long term damage to the indigenous Māori which still continues til this day by successive colonial governments who DO NOT have the best interests of Māori at heart

  • @ducker09
    @ducker09 4 місяці тому +1

    Is there any one thing European brought here that has improved us . Personally i can think of thousands 😮

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому +5

      Well they weren't the only people's in the world and if you think ideas like inventions can't pass racial lines, then you're a wee bit silly then, aren't ya? On your Chinese phone, made with Swedish lasers invented by German scientist, put together in a Thailand factory while you sit there in Indian sweatshop made clothing, reading off a computer made from a thousand different inventions from hundreds of countries around the world.
      But go ahead and tell us all how europeans invented the world. The attitude is a few centuries late, but I'm sure you'll find someone stuck in the same time period you seem to be

  • @selwyndyer8357
    @selwyndyer8357 4 місяці тому +3

    Need the full story thanks.

    • @Kult365
      @Kult365 4 місяці тому +6

      So.. this story, as an example or snapshot of this legislation is not "full" enough for you?

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому +1

      That WAS the full story, whether or not you CHOOSE to ignore it for your feelings.

    • @maryannegawne1179
      @maryannegawne1179 10 днів тому +1

      Good grief. How much more information do you want?

  • @Connor-j7l
    @Connor-j7l 2 місяці тому +2

    New Zealand history did NOT begin in 1840...and the polynesians were NOT the first to this country...They arrived to a land well populated by Celtic races plus the Waitaha & Ngati Hotu peoples..
    The Polynesians cannabilised these true "tangata whenua" and occupied their lands...THAT is how maori bacame "landowners".
    So I have little sympathy for the constant lies and claims of todays maori..

    • @rikimackey7984
      @rikimackey7984 Місяць тому

      What a load of rubbish. Where’s the evidence for your far fetched claims. Oh yeah you don’t have any because it doesn’t exist. Making up stories to make your bullshit stick

    • @orrinransfield2569
      @orrinransfield2569 23 дні тому +1

      Source and reference please

    • @melaniethompson4645
      @melaniethompson4645 8 днів тому

      @@orrinransfield2569zero because he’s speaking utter rubbish

  • @iriafriconnet4763
    @iriafriconnet4763 Місяць тому

    Stolen lands

  • @simon-ds1vp
    @simon-ds1vp Місяць тому

    who leased it out ?? oh yeh the owners at the time you grand parents ,, but you guys want to greedy it all up

    • @rikimackey7984
      @rikimackey7984 Місяць тому +3

      No the crown illegally confiscated it.

    • @jamietownsend7545
      @jamietownsend7545 Місяць тому +2

      Can't understand your spelling but you didn't even watch this did you? 🤨 It was confiscated by the crown

  • @toneclark7675
    @toneclark7675 27 днів тому

    CroWn thieves

    • @ourpeople-g7r
      @ourpeople-g7r 15 днів тому

      I own land that used to belong to the maoris. The maoris will never get the land back. Every day I sit back, put my feet up and look out over my land with a big smile on my face. It is a wonderful feeling knowing that the maoris are really pissed off about it.

  • @chrisseaton222
    @chrisseaton222 4 місяці тому +4

    This is a bit one-sided

    • @hailzreignmanga
      @hailzreignmanga 3 місяці тому +6

      It's fact. Now you know.

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому +1

      Cause it always was, duh! What did you think the last 200 years of protests were about? Shits and giggles?

    • @jamietownsend7545
      @jamietownsend7545 Місяць тому +1

      The only one sided is that the crown stole the land and put perpetual leases on it forever which suited Pakeha. What's the other side?

  • @torqingheads
    @torqingheads 3 місяці тому +1

    Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast from the Cook Islands during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by later waves of Polynesians (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Polynesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups arriving from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated to the North East Coast of NZ driven by the South Equatorial Current and were stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life including 10 species of Moa and 46 other bird species, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits. 'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner

    • @herereihana7892
      @herereihana7892 3 місяці тому

      Thank that gun you had not you

    • @torqingheads
      @torqingheads 3 місяці тому

      @@herereihana7892 You stupid hori. Who do you think invented guns?

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому +2

      Wow that was a lot to say "I'm a white supremacist"

  • @richardbruce8111
    @richardbruce8111 3 місяці тому

    Very one view , LEARN YOUR HISTORY in totality! if land is important it must be well used! IF it is to be "returned" WHO with knowledge to farm / utilise it is the important reality! All this talk of the past is unhelpful as most is very ill-informed! Farmers were not wealthy! Farming needs knowledge not feely touchy beliefs , prices often slump depression conditions cause disasters, What past situations in ALL countries can be viewed today as faultless! check out history Highland clearances, Land settlement in USA . Africa (check out the Zimbabwe disaster) Much of todays situation root in the Maori holocaust of the "musket wars" with the utter decimation of tribal numbers (pretty much HALVED ) and disruption of tribal areas. All old stuff. ! TODAY we must sort an intelligent result. Concentrate on real constructive futures, This very brief summary is not a good discussion only a start .

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 2 місяці тому +3

      Then how about instead of advocating for ignoring the past, you get off your butt and help stop the ACTIVE and CURRENT theft you learned about a month ago?
      Too hard basket like most of the justice for us?

  • @tekorerometewhanautanga
    @tekorerometewhanautanga 4 місяці тому +3

    Im Maori and im not moving anyone

  • @eddiegilbertwakefield3301
    @eddiegilbertwakefield3301 Місяць тому

    Alienation = transfer of rights from one PERSON to another PERSON.

  • @dgm2593
    @dgm2593 3 місяці тому +3

    "By pen it was taken, By pen it can be given back"

  • @petedaniels6330
    @petedaniels6330 Місяць тому

    Give there land back

    • @ourpeople-g7r
      @ourpeople-g7r 15 днів тому

      I own land that used to belong to the maoris. The maoris will never get the land back. Every day I sit back, put my feet up and look out over my land with a big smile on my face. It is a wonderful feeling knowing that the maoris are really pissed off about it.