Wish they brought combo attacks back, kinda wild that that modern persona who makes the friendship between characters a main mechanic, doesnt let those character combine their moves
They're in golden and royal you just have way less control over when they happen and who they're between. p3p also sort of had them (the main character and one party member could occasionally attack together) so its not really a forgotten mechanic, it just isn't done in the same way anymore.
I also like joint negotiation where you could pair team memebers up in 2 or even 3. At first characters won't work together unless you talk to them at certain points in the game demonstratong how their relationship changes. I also really wish they let party memebers equip differnt persona, but everyone always argues wild card. You can still gave the player character fusing the persona for them, just let him distribute them through the party as a leader.
I'm glad you tackled these games. They'll always be personal to me because I was stationed in Japan in 1999. Specifically, I was living there on December 31st, 1999, which was my 21st birthday. The whole experience of Persona 2 is so evocative of the Y2K paranoia of the era. There were so many people that thought the world was actually going to end on that day, or that the airplanes were all going to fall out of the sky. Obviously none of that happened, and we all breathed a collective sigh of relief, but people today won't remember that. I wish we could get another game like this today. Great video, Ram! Good to have you back. Any clues on some upcoming videos?
I still remember my mom crying tears of relief when nothing happen on Y2K. Meanwhile I was in my goth phase (which wasn't really a phase) and hoping something would happen.
It’s those religious cultists mofos! They want the pain from the real world to go away. Instead of learning on how to deal with life’s problems they insist on praying to an invisible guy in the sky to grant their wishes. It’s kinda sad that these organizations is taking advantage of their vulnerabilities and giving them false hope instead of growing as a person and resolving their own problems with hard work and willpower. Otherwise interesting experience thanks for sharing.
@@lordmonarch2995 Eh, I think you can have both. I personally think my creator gave me everything I need to help myself, as well as the strength and knowledge to help others, and squandering those gifts are an affront to the one who made me. As such, I served 22 years in the military, was a police officer, a firefighter, and an EMT. Now I'm a full-time dad, and do everything I can to teach my kids that they can do so much with what their creator gave them, and I give them the skills they need to stand on their own. I'm not some kind of zealot, but rather choose to glorify my creator through my deeds, not through saying I'm great. I compost responsibly, grow my own fruits and vegetables, and plant a little herb garden at the curb for anyone to take from. I care for nature and help those in need. I understand hostility towards religion (I'm pretty hostile at my own currently), but I was made strong and capable to help others, and do it every day, regardless of what some old dude at a podium says.
I didn’t come here to challenge people’s beliefs, believe whatever it is you want I don’t care. If you wanna throw time and money away at a organization you’re at liberty to do so. I’m just expressing what I see and how I perceive it.
P2 is such a masterpiece that needs a remake so bad probably the best story Maya is arguably the most interesting and best character in the whole series just amazing
Doesn't that just give you the pokemon effect of seeing a trainer you have to battle to get around? I prefer this just because it's more expident and also the unsung hero that is the warning light that many of the early megaten games had to let you know you were about to enter a battle so it's not even that random.
@@benjaminallen6534 no. Pokémon trainers aren’t random encounters. You know (for the most part) when they’d be coming. It’s the whole wild pokemon thing that was random. And you never got warning signs. This person is saying they don’t want random encounters. You’re saying that there’s a warning light? Where? How do you avoid attacks?
@@BelBelle468 I meant visual encounter where you see the enemy are like pkmn trainers and fights you have to fight to progress. I did not consider the run option of running away though.
No you dont need to play or enjoy the first 3 persona games(yes, three) to be a real fan You just need to acknowledge they exist, unlike atlus That is all goodnight
compared to smt if and persona 1 the dungeon crawling really isn't even bad. Also I feel like the encounter rate is kind of high because you really need to grind contacts for cards for summoning personas...Well, I say that, but innocent sin is easy enough you really never have to interact with velvet room mechanics. If you play eternal punishment though you will be expected to do so.
idk maybe i did something wrong but my experience with P1 was just shooting everything with guns, until you face a toilet that reflects bullets with 200% damage
@@angryburg I wasn't really commenting on combat, I'm commenting on dungeon design. I think a lot of innocent sin's dungeons aren't actually complicated to navigate but I think persona 1 has some areas that are intentionally somewhat obnoxious, and older smt games have a habit of being way worse than either of them.
There are 2 personna 2 games. Innocent Sin os the first one, Eternal Punsohmnet os the 2nd and Eternal Punishment did come to North America for PS1... Which was wild because half the plot refers to the first game which hadn't come out over here at thst time. (But its fine because the maon character doesnt remember it either so it added s layer of depth and not understanding what's happening)
Random thing I noticed, but the text boxes are all broken in your footage. They aren’t supposed to be transparent like that. You can fix it if you mess around in the settings of PPSSPP. You don’t have to, but it might be useful if you plan to go back to the P2 duology. Changing the renderer to Vulkan or straight up updating your emulator to a new version will probably do the trick.
I am surprised as hell that you still didn't run out of Persona games to review. 90% of your content is this one franchise, and you only now get to Persona 2. Just speaks volumes about how much can be said about the Persona series from an intellectual perspective.
@@W4iteFlame it still has the Personas, the more character driven story, the tarot cards, really everything that P2 has, persona 1 didn't even have SMT in the name until the English rerelease the original Japanese was Megami Ibunroku Persona, was always seen as a spin off, having played both the old SMT games and Persona 1 to completion they feel very different to play
I never played a persona game really (tried 4 like 1 and a half hours and 3 portable like 3 hours but got bored) but damn the designs and ps1 graphics are so charming
Nah they’ll probably keep it. Too iconic and plot relevant. What they’ll be rid of is the name of the band tho. Alludes to main plot but is unnecessary and is ignorant
Is no one gonna tell him the battle system has been butchered to the point where it doesn't remotely feel the same as EP's battle system, which funny enough, is still the same system for IS, except the PSP makes it appear as if it's a traditional battle system and not a dynamic system that has auto-battle in mind? Reminder that IS is a easy game difficulty-wise compared to EP, why did they have to make everything more easier in the PSP remaster. You CAN change party member actions in the PSP version, just that it's more tedious because you have to assign actions for EVERY character instead of character(s) you wanna change their action to. This message is brought to you by SnicketySlice's Ultimate Persona Compendium and Persona players at Reddit, thank you.
You joke about this being a prequel to the other Persona games... but I only play the 'Ramzaes Abridged' version of these games, so as far as I'm concerned this is the latest release in the series. Pretty good so far. Excited to see what they might make next.
@@BelBelle468I could watch every Ramzaes video twice before finishing a single persona game. Who's really using their time most properly here? Checkmate, checkers partner.
Hey RamZaes, I love your content, and always have. I question whether you’re quitting, as on both channels you haven’t uploaded in like 2 months, and your Twitter is also dead.
Can you make a video of you talking about the world ends with you? It can be the Switch version since it is the definitive version + the Exclusive Week the game gives to you. Thank you
I don't understand why running down a hallway hitting enemies with a sword like it's an action game is so much better than random enounters. Heck it's not that random since you get warning light changing color to let you know your about to get in a fight. Also if you want to get in less fights then use conversation to just scare them off or form pacts with the enemies for more tarot/free cards.
Simple. Like Pokémon trainers, you can run away from encounters. And if you’re not vigilant, you can get snuck up on and have a disadvantage in an attack. Maybe the light thing is obvious but the game doesn’t really explain it and I’ve never heard of it before.
@@BelBelle468 I feel that the game doesn’t have to tell you because it’s not hard to understand. Green means you’re safe, yellow means you should be wary, and red means prepare for battle. It’s kind of like a traffic light or any other simple system that uses color
It's because random encounters feels like it's taking control away from the player. I think it's also more immersive to actually see the enemies on the map.
The lack of voiced dialogue was probably due to the PS1. Star Rail isn't anywhere near as long, still has non voiced dialogue and the voice packs are 4-5GB in size. To have all of the dubs installed, it's over 16GB just for voiced dialogue. Though, at the very least they could have made the text made sound as it played in a tone similar to their voice for this game.
![JOKER IS THE *HARDEST* BOSS IN PERSONA HISTORY! [HEARTLESS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-wyEB8aKcg4/mqdefault.jpg)
"I didn't know there was a prequel to the persona games!"
Yeah, neither does Atlus.
Actually, atlus IS working in a persona 2 remake
Remember Trinity Soul
Just kidding that doesn’t exist
@@thalezito-4990 source?
*badum pzzzt*
What's even more confusing is the prequel is part one of two... And they're both called Persona 2.
Wish they brought combo attacks back, kinda wild that that modern persona who makes the friendship between characters a main mechanic, doesnt let those character combine their moves
They're in golden and royal you just have way less control over when they happen and who they're between. p3p also sort of had them (the main character and one party member could occasionally attack together) so its not really a forgotten mechanic, it just isn't done in the same way anymore.
I also like joint negotiation where you could pair team memebers up in 2 or even 3. At first characters won't work together unless you talk to them at certain points in the game demonstratong how their relationship changes. I also really wish they let party memebers equip differnt persona, but everyone always argues wild card. You can still gave the player character fusing the persona for them, just let him distribute them through the party as a leader.
Well I guess the next best thing is Combo Skills in Digital Devil Saga
@@benjaminallen6534yeah i much prefer everyone having a main and sub persona
Gotta make sure the main character is special and all that.
Can't have him be normal, got to be the ultimate power fantasy.
That "modern design" funny enough is the same outfit Elizabeth put on in PQ2.
I'm glad you tackled these games. They'll always be personal to me because I was stationed in Japan in 1999. Specifically, I was living there on December 31st, 1999, which was my 21st birthday. The whole experience of Persona 2 is so evocative of the Y2K paranoia of the era. There were so many people that thought the world was actually going to end on that day, or that the airplanes were all going to fall out of the sky. Obviously none of that happened, and we all breathed a collective sigh of relief, but people today won't remember that. I wish we could get another game like this today.
Great video, Ram! Good to have you back. Any clues on some upcoming videos?
I still remember my mom crying tears of relief when nothing happen on Y2K. Meanwhile I was in my goth phase (which wasn't really a phase) and hoping something would happen.
@@taipolar333 I have absolutely zero doubt that was exactly how things happened. This is probably the most honest thing posted on the Internet today.
It’s those religious cultists mofos! They want the pain from the real world to go away. Instead of learning on how to deal with life’s problems they insist on praying to an invisible guy in the sky to grant their wishes. It’s kinda sad that these organizations is taking advantage of their vulnerabilities and giving them false hope instead of growing as a person and resolving their own problems with hard work and willpower. Otherwise interesting experience thanks for sharing.
@@lordmonarch2995 Eh, I think you can have both. I personally think my creator gave me everything I need to help myself, as well as the strength and knowledge to help others, and squandering those gifts are an affront to the one who made me. As such, I served 22 years in the military, was a police officer, a firefighter, and an EMT. Now I'm a full-time dad, and do everything I can to teach my kids that they can do so much with what their creator gave them, and I give them the skills they need to stand on their own. I'm not some kind of zealot, but rather choose to glorify my creator through my deeds, not through saying I'm great. I compost responsibly, grow my own fruits and vegetables, and plant a little herb garden at the curb for anyone to take from. I care for nature and help those in need.
I understand hostility towards religion (I'm pretty hostile at my own currently), but I was made strong and capable to help others, and do it every day, regardless of what some old dude at a podium says.
I didn’t come here to challenge people’s beliefs, believe whatever it is you want I don’t care. If you wanna throw time and money away at a organization you’re at liberty to do so. I’m just expressing what I see and how I perceive it.
Ima need that part 2 Zaes Ram
Same.
fun fact; the demon painter is Kazuma Kaneko, the original demon designer for SMT
Gee, Igor really knows who to hire.
@@da_copreee9929 its sad K-K left atlus, i loved his style
ew.
@@zeosummers3984 ...???
Estoma is my favorite spell in P2 for a reason...
P2 is such a masterpiece that needs a remake so bad probably the best story Maya is arguably the most interesting and best character in the whole series just amazing
Fr if the encounters were visible instead of random, game would be almost perfect
Doesn't that just give you the pokemon effect of seeing a trainer you have to battle to get around? I prefer this just because it's more expident and also the unsung hero that is the warning light that many of the early megaten games had to let you know you were about to enter a battle so it's not even that random.
@@benjaminallen6534 no. Pokémon trainers aren’t random encounters. You know (for the most part) when they’d be coming. It’s the whole wild pokemon thing that was random. And you never got warning signs.
This person is saying they don’t want random encounters. You’re saying that there’s a warning light? Where? How do you avoid attacks?
@@BelBelle468 I meant visual encounter where you see the enemy are like pkmn trainers and fights you have to fight to progress. I did not consider the run option of running away though.
Besides the horrific combat, voice acting, and an overrated story too but yeah i guess almost perfect
@@coffee9658 I can understand someone not liking the combat or story, but bad voice acting? Are you serious rn?
The mall can be prevented from exploding if you went there after beating the toilet demon
No you dont need to play or enjoy the first 3 persona games(yes, three) to be a real fan
You just need to acknowledge they exist, unlike atlus
That is all goodnight
Persona 1-2 have been acknowledged by ATLUS in many ways.
Can’t wait for the inevitable remake that they’ve been discussing.
Persona 1 really isn't worth anyone's time but Persona 2 is a masterpiece.
@@Phantom-kc9lyI'd disagree. The story is still great and you sorta need knowledge of Persona 1 to appreciate Persona 2 fully
@@connorharnage6697 no, to both
@@BelBelle468 i was joking about that
9:15 I like how that rumor is either funny in the moment, or funny in the future.
compared to smt if and persona 1 the dungeon crawling really isn't even bad. Also I feel like the encounter rate is kind of high because you really need to grind contacts for cards for summoning personas...Well, I say that, but innocent sin is easy enough you really never have to interact with velvet room mechanics. If you play eternal punishment though you will be expected to do so.
idk maybe i did something wrong but my experience with P1 was just shooting everything with guns, until you face a toilet that reflects bullets with 200% damage
@@angryburg I wasn't really commenting on combat, I'm commenting on dungeon design. I think a lot of innocent sin's dungeons aren't actually complicated to navigate but I think persona 1 has some areas that are intentionally somewhat obnoxious, and older smt games have a habit of being way worse than either of them.
@@angryburg Bullet-repelling toilet.
There are 2 personna 2 games. Innocent Sin os the first one, Eternal Punsohmnet os the 2nd and Eternal Punishment did come to North America for PS1... Which was wild because half the plot refers to the first game which hadn't come out over here at thst time. (But its fine because the maon character doesnt remember it either so it added s layer of depth and not understanding what's happening)
Nice Joseph Anderson bit
Last fotage and Ram reaction is the reaction I expected lol
All ik is that the earlier persona games had crazy stories especially 2 with a certain someone appearing
Random thing I noticed, but the text boxes are all broken in your footage. They aren’t supposed to be transparent like that. You can fix it if you mess around in the settings of PPSSPP. You don’t have to, but it might be useful if you plan to go back to the P2 duology. Changing the renderer to Vulkan or straight up updating your emulator to a new version will probably do the trick.
I am surprised as hell that you still didn't run out of Persona games to review. 90% of your content is this one franchise, and you only now get to Persona 2. Just speaks volumes about how much can be said about the Persona series from an intellectual perspective.
Technically Persona 2 was split into 2 parts, Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment
The characters are also from Persona 1 if I recall
Only Yukino is, please play the games
So when eternal punishment
Other half of IS first.
P2 is badass! I can’t wait for it to get a remake!
Hurray for a P2 video! \o/ I loved the game. I hope the rumors (ha) of a remaster or remake for the duology are real.
Look how he grew up) We'll see Persona 2.2 and Persona 1 (not persona yet, but persona) next)
Wdym not persona yet
@@KatelynS0209 I mean they had no idea they will make it into series...or at least I assume so, cause Persona in the name is secondary thing to SMT
@@W4iteFlame it still has the Personas, the more character driven story, the tarot cards, really everything that P2 has, persona 1 didn't even have SMT in the name until the English rerelease the original Japanese was Megami Ibunroku Persona, was always seen as a spin off, having played both the old SMT games and Persona 1 to completion they feel very different to play
Ok
Ram is like the da vinci duo of persona UA-camrs fused into one
11:58 I know it's Belphagor, but I find funny to think it's Skibidi Toilet pre-Tiktok era
Aww. You didn't cover how this is somehow the only Persona game to actually allow the character to have same sex romance.
Leave it to part 2.
i would say person 2 duology has the best story in the series
And the story is bananas. XD
I never played a persona game really (tried 4 like 1 and a half hours and 3 portable like 3 hours but got bored) but damn the designs and ps1 graphics are so charming
play more its peak
Usually i would think such a title is clickbait but no this game is an actualy accumulation of the gasleaks at Atlus during the to be days of Y2K.
i wish p3p had the same camera and world view as persona 2
I heard that they're remaking this. I wonder if they're gonna replace "100% not Hitler" with some generic German man
Nah they’ll probably keep it. Too iconic and plot relevant.
What they’ll be rid of is the name of the band tho. Alludes to main plot but is unnecessary and is ignorant
Is no one gonna tell him the battle system has been butchered to the point where it doesn't remotely feel the same as EP's battle system, which funny enough, is still the same system for IS, except the PSP makes it appear as if it's a traditional battle system and not a dynamic system that has auto-battle in mind? Reminder that IS is a easy game difficulty-wise compared to EP, why did they have to make everything more easier in the PSP remaster. You CAN change party member actions in the PSP version, just that it's more tedious because you have to assign actions for EVERY character instead of character(s) you wanna change their action to.
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What happened to the other ram zeas chanel where the games like elden ring are reviewed?
I played this game because of your video. Just finished tonight. It was very frustrating. So glad modern Persona is actually fun to play.
Is the story at least interesting? Even for the gameplay being outdated
Try playing the PS1 version of Innocent sin with the translation patch, the combat is much better
Remake when? For most of us, it'll be like a brand new entry. But I'm sure they'd have to change so many things it'd end up being one regardless...
Persona 2 is goated
He has played PEAK!!!!!!
Persona 2 : Eternal Punishment was my favorite. It felt more like a Horror JRPG than the new games.
Welcome to the caveman times of persona, where everything was isometric and pixelated.
You joke about this being a prequel to the other Persona games... but I only play the 'Ramzaes Abridged' version of these games, so as far as I'm concerned this is the latest release in the series. Pretty good so far. Excited to see what they might make next.
…it’s not a joke. The way you’re consuming it is the joke. Keep your HCs as they are, don’t try confusing it with canon
@@BelBelle468I could watch every Ramzaes video twice before finishing a single persona game. Who's really using their time most properly here?
Checkmate, checkers partner.
Wait, until you get to insane part
It's funny because SMT If is technically a prequel
Tried finishing this game and got really far in, but the dungeons were really draining for me and i stopped a bit after the robots show up.
Hey Ramz, haven't seen you in quite awhile. Hope you're doing okay.
Hey RamZaes, I love your content, and always have. I question whether you’re quitting, as on both channels you haven’t uploaded in like 2 months, and your Twitter is also dead.
Hes probably working irl
every time I search Ram Revie i get reviews of Dodge Ram trucks : (
Random encounters are still goated
Under a hour. Gang
sooooooooo.. no jun mention?
(as far as i could see at least)
Wow I literally started streaming Persona 2 few days ago
Can you make a video of you talking about the world ends with you? It can be the Switch version since it is the definitive version + the Exclusive Week the game gives to you. Thank you
No way, Persona 2 and Persona 3 best persona games.
Innocent sin is so strange, it's both the easiest game and also the prequel to the hardest game in the series
Oh yeah, if I remember correctly music and art was made by the same person(a). Correct me if I'm wrong tho
Did you not have a persona with Estoma?
I don't understand why running down a hallway hitting enemies with a sword like it's an action game is so much better than random enounters. Heck it's not that random since you get warning light changing color to let you know your about to get in a fight. Also if you want to get in less fights then use conversation to just scare them off or form pacts with the enemies for more tarot/free cards.
Simple. Like Pokémon trainers, you can run away from encounters. And if you’re not vigilant, you can get snuck up on and have a disadvantage in an attack.
Maybe the light thing is obvious but the game doesn’t really explain it and I’ve never heard of it before.
@@BelBelle468 I feel that the game doesn’t have to tell you because it’s not hard to understand. Green means you’re safe, yellow means you should be wary, and red means prepare for battle. It’s kind of like a traffic light or any other simple system that uses color
It's because random encounters feels like it's taking control away from the player. I think it's also more immersive to actually see the enemies on the map.
Yes that is correct dear viewer, both versions of persona 2 have hitler in them
Wonder if he’ll play Persona 1.
Jonkler universe hoping
Joseph anderson
Just wait till you get to the depressing sequel to Persona 2... Persona 2: Eternal Punishment!
what's the music that plays during 8:04?
Persona 1 next?
I liked Tsumi, but you should definitely play Batsu.
It's way better imo)
The psp version has no difficulty you should also play the eternal punishment translation it does have difficulty
thanks for the video
Don’t forget it’s the only persona with a gay social link
pspspsp... you want to play smt IV... it has voice acting ... no random encounters... bad bitches... pspspsps
The lack of voiced dialogue was probably due to the PS1. Star Rail isn't anywhere near as long, still has non voiced dialogue and the voice packs are 4-5GB in size. To have all of the dubs installed, it's over 16GB just for voiced dialogue. Though, at the very least they could have made the text made sound as it played in a tone similar to their voice for this game.
oh cool
holy shit Joseph Joms Anderson
Ram ram ram ram
Wikipedia says Persona started in 1996
If your watching this video under an hour like this comment
34 minutes babyyyyyy
No
It only took me 16 minutes
"I didn't know there was a prequel to the persona games!"
cause its not... 1 and 2 are their own universe...
they are set in the same universe and you would know this if you paid attention lol