Someone: a new efficient CPU in town . ASUS: Block them vents, we need a consistent 90c. An employee: the 4600h is even cooler! ASUS: Get rid of some pipes ASAP.
Yeah dude, that's really disappointing, just wondering why TF asus did this kind of treatments for their AMD Ryzen line up models, i mean "ALL of THEIR RYZEN MODEL".
@@bradbeyers9028 Imagine there is motor manufacturer. It builds the most powerful and efficient motors in the world and Ford implements its into their car with blocks instead of wheels. Then you see a review of that car and state that the motor sucks, because the car is not accelerating.
@@masternobody1896 Gaming laptops were never meant to replace your gaming pc.... its common sense that something smaller will be unable to match its larger counterpart..... Gaming laptops are mostly for those who dont have a space to keep a gaming pc or want to carry around high powered machines with them (like college students who mostly live in small dorm rooms)
@@masternobody1896 ofc You won't get the PC and laptop of the same specs for the same performance for the reasons: heat is the important thing, and as Abhigyan said gaming laptop aren't supposed to be replaced or reliable because many people do have problem to carry around or do travel a lot. That's the main reason why gaming laptop exist
Hey guys! Regarding undervolting for the 4800H, you can pretty much accomplish the same thing with Ryzen Controller! I've been playing around with it, and have found that I can cap my CPU temp at pretty much anywhere I want it to be, depending on the TDP I select! So you know, the conversion rate for the program's TDP vs. the chip's TDP isn't exactly 1:1, but after some fiddling around, I still found values that worked! For instance, when I'm playing games (in performance mode) my stock CPU temp holds at the typical 95C, while the GPU holds at its typical 86C. NOW, when I set a TDP in Ryzen Controller of say, 15 watts, for example (while simultaneously undervolting my GPU in MSI Afterburner at 1500MHz@0.700V), I have achieved a CPU temp of 85C, and GPU of 75C. All while dropping my FPS by only like 10% or so (if at all, depending on the game). BTW the setting of 15 watts in RC doesn't actually mean my true CPU TDP is now sitting at 15 watts, as I have seen it actually float anywhere between 15 and 25 at this setting. So like I said, the conversion rate isn't actually 1:1; you'll just have to play around with it. But anyways, if I want a lower CPU temp, I just pick a lower TDP, and get a lower framerate. Inverse is naturally true, too. I just like to game at 85C or so on average. Basically though, the program is quite granular, meaning that I could set a TDP of 17 watts if I wanted, and game at 89C on the CPU and 78C on the GPU. The overall improvements in CPU temps, BTW, aren't as effective without simultaneously undervolting/underclocking the GPU (as they share heatpipes, remember). But fortunately, undervolting/underclocking the GPU doesn't appear to be having any effect on performance, whatsoever, regardless of whether I manipulate my CPU's TDP or not. Oh, and of course, turbo mode only adds an additional layer of improvement over all these values. I just like to game on performance mode because I prefer the quieter fan noise. Also, the Ryzen Controller's "Maximum CPU Temperature" setting doesn't seem to have any effect on the 4800H, so the only useful part of the tool as of late seems to be the CPU's TDP setting. Ultimately, the biggest benefit I see to Ryzen Controller is that I am still seeing turbo boost kick in at the appropriate levels, vs seeing it capped at a lowly 1.7GHz when using the "99% trick" or 2.9GHz using the new registry trick that disables turbo boost. Of course, when capping my TDP using RC the maximum boost speeds I am seeing are a little less, like 3-3.4GHz vs 4 or so. But that is surely an improvement over a locked 1.7GHz or 2.9GHz, and to which makes a big difference in the average FPS for my games! Also, by manipulating the TDP using RC, I have achieved better control over my temps as opposed to the more modest improvements I get when using the turbo-boost-disabling registry trick. Hope this helps, and happy gaming!
Alrighty, so here's a particular benchmarking analysis that I ran as an example. This is the DiRT Rally benchmark, with almost everything set to ultra, along w/ 4XAA: STOCK EVERYTHING = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 95.0C / 86.0C AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 125.40 / 98.28 / 156.58 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1319 MHz @ 0.709 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 19.1 W / 67.2 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - STOCK CPU + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 95.0C / 86.0C AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 128.17 / 96.86 / 167.45 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 20.9 W / 64.7 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 99% TRICK = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 83.2 / 86.0 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 80.65 / 53.16 / 110.96 MAX CPU CLK: 1700 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1634 MHz @ 0.849 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.6 W / 74.4 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 99% TRICK + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 75.9 / 74.2 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 79.45 / 52.58 / 105.39 MAX CPU CLK: 1700 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.0 W / 50.1 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TB DISABLED = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 88.7 / 84.6 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 118.43 / 83.47 / 162.66 MAX CPU CLK: 2890 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1413 MHz @ 0.739 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.1 W / 69.7 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - TB DISABLED + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 84.4 / 80.5 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 125.33 / 84.48 / 168.51 MAX CPU CLK: 2890 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.9 W / 64.8 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 8W = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 87.8 / 84.7 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 116.42 / 90.18 / 150.84 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1421 MHz @ 0.744 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.3 W / 70.7 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 8W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 84.5 / 80.5 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 121.01 / 93.26 / 149.23 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.6 W / 65.9 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 9W = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 91.2 / 85.8 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 118.12 / 91.03 / 155.67 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1233 MHz @ 0.681 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.6 W / 60.1 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 9W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 85.7 / 80.9 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 126.20 / 96.98 / 163.15 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.8 W / 66.0 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 11W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 90.0 / 81.7 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 129.47 / 81.51 / 166.97 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 18.6 W / 65.8 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 6W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 78.2 / 76.3 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 110.62 / 82.08 / 138.84 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 12.0 W / 65.3 W - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - RC TDP @ 5W + GPU UV/OC = AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 75.7 / 74.2 AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 101.30 / 77.67 / 133.44 MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.9 W / 62.6 W CONCLUSION: If you're looking for a quick and dirty, set-it-and-forget-it mod, it appears that disabling turbo boost while simultaneously undervolting/overclocking the GPU will generally yield you pretty good results while leaving your FPS on par w/ stock no less! THEN, if you want ultimate control, you can alternatively squeeze a little more FPS out of your games -- depending on how you feel about your temps -- by using Ryzen Controller, albeit thus requiring a little trial and error along the way to find the ideal TDP value. Basically, one method (the turbo-boost-disabling method) keeps CPU temps down by capping your boost clocks, while the other method (the RC method) keeps CPU temps down by capping your TDP. The two work in similar ways -- but differently -- and as such, each have their own respective benefits depending on which game you play / what your goals are. (The RC method works better for me when playing NFS, for instance, as it does a better job at preventing me from going over 90C, while the turbo-boost-disabing method works better for me when playing DiRT Rally, as it doesn't seem to push me past 85C anyways). AND FINALLY, if you're into squeezing as much gameplay out of your machine for as little power spent (and fan noise) as possible -- like gaming on battery for instance -- nothing beats the RC method, hands down. Not even the 99% trick. (And certainly not the turbo-boost-disabling trick, nor the Silent Mode profile in Armoury Crate, for that matter, either.) I mean, 78C/76C on the CPU/GPU, w/ 110 FPS average, all while using only 12W/65W of CPU/GPU power? SOLD! Ultimately though, the real mod that is making these CPU mods worth doing is the GPU undervolting/overclocking mod using MSI afterburner! For without it, CPU temps just aren't as capable of dropping so easily (because of how the two share heatpipes). Thank goodness for MSI Afterburner!
William Montgomery It’s seems that the RC TDP @ 11W + GPU UV/OC is the best way to lower down the temp but what does RC TDP @ 11W means? I’m thinking of getting this or a MSI laptop with a i7 9 gen but the ryzen 7 4800h is better than the the i7 but I heard it has a good cooling and build. Idk which one to get.
@@mp3sefu RC TDP @ 11W means that I set a value of 11 in Ryzen Controller for the CPU TDP value. (Of course, the conversion rate for "set" TDP vs the "true" TDP the CPU will be running at isn't actually 1:1, so fortunately by setting it at 11 you're not **actually** going to see the CPU physically capped at 11 watts (as evidenced by its reported 18.6W use in HWInfo64). But yes, ultimately I have found that a TDP value of 11 to 13 in RC yields me the best results in games, depending on how CPU intensive the game is. Fortunately, you can simply minimize the game, change the TDP value on the fly, and then restore back into the game without restarting it, so the trial-and-error aspect of the tweak is easy to put up with! Personally, I have had great success with ASUS. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend their products to anyone. (Not a paid endorsement here, I'm just a repair technician by trade).
tyvm for all that info and testing. So for everyday use with chrome/netflix and the Sims4 / Assassins creed kind of titles should i just set the 99% cpu trick to prevent too much heating ? What do you suggest.
Super clear graphs, amazing content, super helpful man ! Thanks for trying the "disabling turbo" fix ! Btw you don't have to completely disable it, if you read the first comment on that reddit post, putting it at "efficient aggressive" let's you keep the boost when it's really needed. I hope they will do something at Bios level...
Thanks! Me too! So far I have just one other, another A15 but with 1660 Ti, apparently the G5 I bought has a June 18 ETA despite buying it 11 days ago and they advertised it with a 5-8 day delivery time lol.
I like how you give details on the surface temps. For laptop gaming, it is almost more important than cpu and gpu temps. Because you will forget all about the high framerate once you start feeling discomfort in your palms.
@@Zysperro thats why i said "almost". I can ignore throttling if framerates are decent like say 70fps instead of 110fps. But i CANNOT tolerate a burning wrist/palm.
@@pipebomber04 LoL. The REAL throttling starts at 95+ and it's not just slight fps drop - it causes micro-freezes that make gaming exp a torture. You can work around high surface temps by using additional keyboard+mouse, but you can't really avoid high temps throttling caused by bad architecture (Cooling pad rarely helps).
@@Zysperro i have been playing on throttling laptops since my college days until today. And micro stuttering almost doesnt happen. Using an external keyboard makes the laptop screen farther away.
I dremeled out more slits right over the fans on my A15. Dropped my temps by about 10c. The fact that I had to void my warranty for proper airflow is ridiculous. ASUS really dropped the ball on this bottom panel. I cannot imagine it would have cost them but a few pennies more to cut out a bit more airflow.
the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US would suggest your warranty is intact. if you are US resident that is. Many countries like Canada, USA and Germany restrict when a manufacturer can void your warranty and for what reaosn. They would have to show your modifications caused the issue that it was being serviced for.
I bought my A15 a week ago, i've enjoyed it a lot! My main problem with it is the temp, however it doesn't get THAT hot, so its fine for my use at least. i bought a cooling pad which has ventilators right where the vents are on the lapto, i hope this works better. Overall i think its a grat bang for the buck and most of the people that criticize it have never owned one, so take it with a grain of salt. Overall it is a great video Jarrod!
also, this is a lot cheaper in my country than the Helios 300, Omen 15 and basically same price as Lenovo Y540 and Nitro 5. Specs I believe is the most bang for the buck for USD$1,700 here. For example, the Alienware M17 R3 with RTX 2070 here is USD$3,600 and the OMEN 15 with 2070 Max Q is USD$2,300
@@RTXTi-vu2gz those games are more cpu than Gpu intensive. I would go for the 4800h with GTX 1660. But yes i would the CPU is a beast and if you don't mind the hotter than usual (within manufacturer limits) themals its a full go! Totally recommend I've been loving my laptop!
Look here! Ill help you Max performance at lower temp. 89°C 3800 hz and avarage of 105 fps on cod bo cold war. To get this you need to download ryzen controller program. Tdp set to 35, boost tdp to 42 and after boost set tdp to 32. This is fot ryzen 7 4800h. If you have different processor you need to check what tdp your processor normally has. R7 4800h has 35 tdp. Give this a like if it helped you so others see it. Thanx and good luck guys!
The weird vents are probably related to the "millitary grade" dust resillience (if air isn't getting in, dust isn't either" and the "self cleaning" fan blades.
The fans are using centrifugal rejection of dust particles that get pushed down channels and out of the machine as opposed to through the heat sinks if my understanding is correct
Is it usable during longer gaming sessions? I genrally play Sekiro, Destiny 2. How is the performance so far? Are you satisified? Should I jump the shark and buy this laptop?
@@oxnyz1883 whilst playing destiny 2 at max settings im averagely at 90 degrees with the cpu @40W, gpu sits at 87 degrees but pulls 100W but i dont notice any lag or throttling but the boost generally drops from 4.5Ghz to about 3.6Ghz but i did notice a spike for a brief second of 100 degrees, i believe asus could have done better with the cooling
High quality, thorough, and well explained as always! Great video. I will say though that modding the bottom panel might not be a great idea. As you said, it's (likely) designed that way to pull air over other components, cooling them in the process. Your CPU/GPU temps might drop slightly, but other components are going to be missing out on that cooling, which could impact its longevity. I modded the bottom panel of my Asus G51 back in the day and ended up covering it back up for this reason.
Thanks, while I wouldn't recommend it, people did find that the G15 thermals improve by taking off plastic covers over the fans, so figured same principle would probably apply here too if you're desperate.
So , in essense , a bad design by ASUS... Either bad thermals in general , or bad thermals for specific components like VRM? Idk why ASUS is doing this , same with G15 ... Honestly, the G14 has same or better thermals than G15 and TUF and it runs CPU at the same 35 W...
Testing has shown that Asus' weird vent covering on the bottom severely hinders temps on the CPUs in these machines. No idea why they did that, but yuck.
@Zieg The panel is bad, the design of the frame is bad, even the finish is bad imo. Then there's the problem with TUF mobos and graphic cards. Shit thermals and build quality. TUF is just bad, and Asus are just trying to scam people with their "new budget line".
Love my G14, got the white $1449 BB model. Used your reviews to make my decision, and I have to say it was a great one. With Performance Boost turned off in windows, I am getting 60-70C under full load. You loose about 1.2GHz, but 20C lower temps is much better for me. If I ever need 4.2GHz I can just toggle it back on. Thank you for your detailed reviews.
@@zerorl4481 There is too much power in this machine to ignore it's fair price. I'd rather save $1,000 and figure out thernal cooling solutions overtime than spend $2,000 on a machine that *may* run games slighty better.
@@magno172 I'm considering just dremeling open some more vents... Supposedly there's also a paper(?) covering over one of the fans. Another reviewer removed it and her temps got drastically better.
@@soroneir1260 please see the advice on using ryzen controller and MSI afterburner in this comments section before having to cut holes in the base. It was also stressed that the vram gets cooled through the vents in between the rear heat sinks and if you cut it open it will cause less air to be drawn that way. It works great and i now have peak cpu temp of 81 and 79 on the GPU.
Loads of info here as per usual - thank you for taking the time to do this. Do you have any idea when you will be reviewing the new Lenovo 5, 5i and 7i - these look like great machines on paper. Keep up the good work!
@@JarrodsTech That's unfortunate. I hope it becomes available to you soon. Besides that, your reviews are informative, well made, of good quality and detailed. Big thanks.
Brilliant Asus engineers have designed unique tuf and strix solutions. So that there were at least some differences between them, they removed the ventilation holes in the tuf. As a result, it heats up to 100 degrees. To prevent the laptop from working for too long, the ssd was placed next to the heat pipe to heat up to 75 degrees.
@@Hiscocks2008 sry for the late reply but pick your poison to keep your laptop blocked from the air and eventually dies of heat or void your warranty and make holes on the back cover using a precision tool like a Dremel to make a proper intake vents !?
Dude great job, you are the best for this job in youtube, no doubt. I'm planning to buy a laptop but I cant decide which one is better ASUS TUF A15 ,Acer Helios 300 or Lenovo legion y540. What is your opinion, if you answer I'd be happy.
Yes I am also getting a new laptop but I am also confused as which one should I pick Acer nitro 5 Acer pradetor hellios 300 with i5 and gtx 1660 ti or Asus A15 with ryzen with rtx 2060 can any one pzz help me
@@V3doP4jzs thx for the advice, I really like the rog but unfortunetly at the same price these 3 laptops comes with 1660 ti but the rog series comes with 1650 :(
@@phantomphorever9764 G531 costs slightly more, because it has better cooling than the other laptops you mentioned. It does not matter if a laptop has better graphic card than the other, if you can not use its full capacity because of cooling issues. I bought Helios 300 first, I sent it back to the shop because it was loud as hell and was way too hot. Since half a year I have G531, you need to repaste the cooling system, UV (like Helios 300 does automaticaly with predator sense) and you will have no heat proplems in games! Or you buy TUF, Helios 300 or Legion 540, and will constatly have heat issues, frame drops in games, and your laptop will be damaged more likely beacuse of high temperatures.
That’s one spicy review! Always love your breakdowns. Bummed to hear there is no way to undervolt the Ryzen CPU’s, but I’m sure that’s in the works in some way - because that will no doubt help the throttling and performance. This would help the thermals as well, but glad to see it’s keeping cool though! That said - I love everything about this laptop and the price, except the competitor G5 seems to the back placed inputs (USB C, Ethernet, etc). This is one thing business laptops have done for years, and I always wonder why so few consumer grade have done this.
Hey there! I've been able to lower the TDP of my 4800H using "Ryzen Controller," which is almost the same as undervolting. By doing so, I have been able to manipulate my temps down to the exact degree. The actual TDP > TDP conversion rate isn't 1:1, so I pretty much start with 20 in RC and go up or down from there. But basically, I have achieved great frames rates, at great temps, and have been quite satisfied with the program thus far! For example, I have my TDP set for NFS Payback at 15 watts, and have my GPU locked (using MSI Afterburner) at 1500MHz/0.700V, and have been able to achieve ~100 FPS on high settings w/ 4XAA while holding 85C on the CPU and 75C on the GPU. Like I said, I could go up or down on the CPU temp, by about a 1.5 degrees per TDP value. I just find myself most comfortable sitting at 85C or so, while still being able to achieve super high frame rates at pretty high detail levels. Basically if I wanted to see 75C on the CPU, for example, I would just lower the TDP in RC to 14 or 13 or something (and would thus be seeing ~80 FPS while playing). Hope this helps, and happy gaming!
Hey! I've done the turbo -disable for a few days now in the G14 and it is life changing. When I'm working on exporting video, etc, I simply switch to a new power plan that I created. This way, at the touch of ONE click, I can go from 75 C CPU at 3 GHz to 90 C CPU at 4.3 GHz at best times. Crazy performance and also crazy heat reduction if you want. Thumbs up to that guy in reddit! Still mindboggling how the 35W 4900HS and the 45W 4800H shit on the insanely powerhungry intel chips.
Dayum! The shit's hot and that too at 21C. Imagine living in a place where summer temps regularly cross 40C(AC not available every time). I would really prefer my laptop not exploding lol. I was considering this laptop but weak thermals combined with poor pricing in my region (for now) and that slow and dull display gets this laptop a pass from me. Asus really botched the thermal layout. Also can't thank you enough for testing with turbo boost off. The thermals are better but still not great considering the temps at my place.
Yeah man. Laptop pricing is crazy in India. I was considering this one as well but thermals and display turned me off. Let's what Acer does with an updated Predator series.
@@bradhaines3142 LMAO. The thing is I use my laptop either at my home or my uni hostel. My home has an AC while my hostel room doesn't which is the story of pretty much every government college in India lol. I just don't want a situation where I have to rely on an AC for gaming. 40C is not unbearable for us tho lol. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
@@localghost3000 Exactly tho I can see the price dropping in a couple of months or maybe even weeks. It happened with the last TUFs as well. They really screwed the screen and thermals tho. I think the last year's Helios is still a great deal considering you can make do with a average battery. The prices would be dropping now to make way for new stock.
I'm pretty sure that most intake air for this laptop comes in from the rear. Notice that the fans and heatsinks are only using about 2/3 of the rear vents on the left and right to exhaust hot air, and there's a vent in the middle that's intake-only. It's not a bad design. The laptop doesn't need more holes in the bottom.
Thanks Jarrod, really helpful as I now know what to expect with my upcoming A15 as this is the same exact configuration I got. Looks like I gotta do a thermal repaste and open/cut some holes from the bottom 🤣😂
@@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod, thought I share it with you guys. Here an explanation from ASUS last January about the bottom panel. What you guys think? 🤔 ua-cam.com/video/ZIoID2kOCso/v-deo.html
Thanks Jarrod once again for this review..!! :) Could you possibly just highlight the battery comparisons and the price differences in your full review - because some units are having 48Whr and some 90Whr..!! Thanks once again..
i have this laptop for 2 weeks now and it doesn't disappoint, it is a great laptop. It performs well as per my experience and in terms of temperature it doesn't get too hot even on performance mode which is the one in using when gaming , i do not measure the Temp the way you do it , I only refer to the stats of the games i am playing. EXAMPLE - when I play COD MW War Zone (normally 3 to 4 hours a day) - the GPU Temp never exceeded 84 Degrees Celsius which I would say NORMAL. Its probably because my air condition is too cold in my room or device handles it pretty well. Thank you for this video because i learned a lot more about my laptop, more power and hoping for more videos in the future.
This is my choice also for cod warzone. And this will be my 1st laptop. Would you recommend buying this laptop? What is the gpu of ur laptop? Available here is only tje 1650ti. Ty
Great video! can you help me with a information. Wich one of them two laptops would you recommend MSI GF65 Thin 15.6” Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7, RTX 2060, 256 GB SSD or ACER Nitro 5 AN517 17.3" Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7, RTX 2060, 256 GB SSD. They are both same price 999pounds in uk. Thank you!
I'm glad you've started showing the base clock lock Jarrod, it's a tweak I use on all my gaming laptops to keep CPU temps in check and find it very useful for people that don't want to deal with almost 100'C laptops haha
This was a test to see if there was interest, wasn't really planning on doing it much in future but some people asked about it for this machine specifically, so I guess if there is I can keep doing it - I'm personally not a fan 😅
For everyone that's interested in A15/17, also, if you have SVM enabled (which is very important for me, app development), screen flickering occurs, which is very annoying
Excellent review man. I prefer laptops with a premium build quality though. Waiting for your razer blade 15 2020 reviews and probably then I’ll take a decision between msi gs66 and razer blade 15.
Come on guys, this channel deserves 500k subs or even more!! Im here just to say keep up the amazing work man, you re one of the best Tech Channel on UA-cam hands down!
I just bought this (still waitin for it to ship to my country) only difference i have is 32 gigs of ram and I'm thankful for your review I'm ok with these temps cause my old laptop was worse in heat and slower
Playing games at 90+ constantly means that the components will give up or die sooner... Maybe in 2 years it will start thermal throttling. Also the fact that cooling pads are not helping means it is a BAD choice.
If it gets that high, accomplish what it needs to and then lowers, everything's fine. BUT say if you are gaming for a few hours, then all the machine is gonna be heated a lot and so some components got temperature tolerance, or limits. It may and WILL: increase electrical resistance which will reduce efficiency, faster electrical pathways degradation, even low temperature solder may melt (ok that one is rare or even non-existent on recent hardware, screw you internet and fake news). Here are some info I found here and there: - HDDs and SSDs As per Seagate response: "The operating temperature range for most Seagate hard drives is 5 to 50 degrees Celsius." Most SSDs are rated for running within a temperature range of 0ºC up to a max temp of 70ºC. WD red HDDs can operate from 0 up to 70ºC. However, studies like the one Facebook conducted in their own data centers found that the hotter your SSD runs, the quicker it wears out the flash memory inside of the drive. So while an SSD can technically operate at the higher ranges advertised by manufacturers, you’re going to get better data integrity and more life out of your SSD if you keep it cool. Also note that HDDs S.M.A.R.T. feature stores the highest temperature attained. If it ever surpasses it's rated max temp, it may void the warranty. - Battery As per iFixit: "If You Leave It Plugged In, Don’t Let It Run Hot. Keeping your laptop plugged in regularly, with the battery charged to 100 percent, isn’t slowly killing it, despite what you may read. The exception is if your laptop runs hot. This could be because you’re doing a lot of compiling, rendering, or other intensive work, or because it’s hot where the laptop is used, due to sunlight, exhaust, or other factors. When you combine a battery at maximum capacity with serious heat exposure, that’s when it starts taking damage and losing life." - GPUs and CPUs Lots of GPUs will operate comfortably up to 95ºC, CPUs up to 105ºC. You may need to check yours but I wouldn't fear as those are made to last. -RAM and motherboard Couldn't find any evidence as to what maximum temperature is safe to run under. OK we're done so lower is better, how low is good? Well it shall never fall below room temperature as water drop would form onto components due to condensation. Anyways as a rule of thumb: lower is better, a laptop is not meant to be up and running all day, and wear a face cover if you go somewhere and you can't stay 2m afar from random people. :-)
Cheers Jarrod! I grabbed a G14, and after a proper undervolt + overclock on the GPU, the 2060 Max-Q matches/beats your 2060 90W results on the TUF A15 with better thermals (according to this video - sub 90/80 on "performance" mode). It seems that the GPU is the larger contributor to the overall heat of the system (makes sense). I haven't repasted it yet, either. I'm not sure if you personally use any of these machines, but I highly recommend doing a proper undervolt on the GPU for these thin and light gaming laptops. Could also be a whole new range of videos for your channel, too. Stay healthy!
Good to hear! I don't touch GPU undervolting personally, I hate dragging the one billion balls in MSI Afterburner, maybe if they update the software to do them in bulk. The main reason though is that back when I was trying it for the first time I tried it on 5 machines with no improvement so haven't bothered ever since, I guess it varies by machine.
@@JarrodsTech Well, if you get bored, give it a go. Good news is the mobile chips don't boost as high as the desktop variants... so there are a lot less balls to drag lol. My SOTTR went from 73fps to 80fps, Strange Brigade from 101fps to 111fps. Both on 1080, highest preset. Should note I OC'ed the memory +600MHz. Appeared to have no effect on temps. How's everything across the pond?
@@JarrodsTech Hey Jarrod, just following up on this. Wanted to share my undervolt settings. You can see it's not a ton of "ball-moving". i.imgur.com/QKx7iNL.png Cheers!
I would also like to see this laptop reviewed. Have my eye on the eXmg Neo 15 which is the same I think, and the 2060 it's advertised as 110 watts. Would be interesting to see how it performs against 90 watts 2070/2080
@@mw38390 they had 48 watt hours, later they upgraded to 60 watt hours I talked abotu in my comment. Still small for a gaming laptop, would most likely get around 5 hours of normal use like watching videos. And considering that unlike many other brands it doesn't have a battery charge limitation it would degrade quite fast and in like 3 years it would only have half the already small capacity.
@@ppaditya8146 Hey Aditya, feel free to contact me via other channels as you will get answers to all of your questions much faster. Well, let's get to the point. When i received the laptop and turned it to 'turbo' mode the temperature went high very fast without even doing anything only surfing the web. When I was playing Saints Row 4 at ultra graphics it reached a crazy high temperature of 90 degree Celsius which is very bad. Currently i'm working on the temperatures of the laptop right now to get better temperatures.
Thank Jarrod, really greate review. But can you make a test with 2 vacuum cooler on the back of the laptop. I hear those have great effect on lower the temperature but nobody seem to use it. May be it will hurt the internal fan in the long run?
Hey there! I use the vacuum coolers, and while they don't work very well alone (as they only seem to induce the inside to ramp temps back up to max) they work WONDERS once you disable turbo boost while simultaneously undervolting/overclocking the GPU. As in, with all three mods, I've been able to game in the high 60's / low 70's with ZERO loss in framerates! (Without the vacuum coolers I still see mid 80's for CPU and low 80's for GPU which is still great IMO).
Everytime I open and search the a15 on amazon; it says that the price is unavailable or something along those lines.. Can you just please tell me the price of this configuration?
wow that's pretty hot, both review and the laptop. i wonder how the 4800+1660ti variant performs, eyeing that config. if same, might have to wait for G5 SE or Legion 5. thanks Jarrod
Hey Jarrod, great video as always! Really informative. I was wondering, do you plan on reviewing the Acer Triton 300 PT315-52 and pitting it against the Asus TUF A15? Seems like it's quite the improvement over Triton 300 PT315-51 and might give the TUF A15 a good competition.
If you want good temps for Ryzen 4000 mobile series you could try adjusting the processor boost(that leaves it to 2900mhz- it goes over this target if the system can manage it). After that the CPU stays at 80 degrees and the fps almost the same(the bottleneck is the GPU in these laptops). Put this command in CMD(run as administrator): powercfg.exe -attributes sub_processor perfboostmode -attrib_hide . After that go in power plan->change plan settings->under processor power management->processor performance boost mode-> efficient agressive.
Yeah it sucks so much I just want a top tier ultrabook with these components and enough cooling to let them run at 100% of their potential.. why is that so hard?
@@isbestlizard its not hard, they deliberately want people to go for the rog instead, so people end up paying twice the price for similar if not the same specs
Thanks jarrod, Since i sold my omen 15 (it was a hot machine) but my eyes are on this laptop with 90wh battery and im willing to spend extra for the shipping from US from what I could gather. And I will mod the bottom, no one will stop me.
These "high" temperatures are not a problem. The whole idea behind turbo boost is that the CPU will run faster, i.e., give you better performance, as long as it's cool enough. If AMD engineers thought that temperatures over 90C were a problem, then the processor would stop turbo boosting in order to cool itself down. But it doesn't. So everything is working as AMD (and Asus) engineers intended, the temperatures are fine, and overall it's a pretty good cooling solution for a laptop.
So the question is do I buy this or an Intel device in the sma price bracket????? Also what is the quality of the screen? All reviews say the colours and brightness is crap??? But as always a great timely review
Hi Jarrod thanks for you hardwork to review all this laptop for us.. just want to us is this laptop have nvidia optimus? Can we disable the optimus to get higher fps from game
the thermals are definently holding it back, once my warranty runs out I will change to liquid metal, k5 thermal past (replace thermal pads), add more copper heat sinks to give more surface area, and cut the back. I dont really use it as a laptop anymore since it is so loud but I will occasionally take it out
You can check if thermal throttling happens using Hardware Info. It has 3 different values of CPU throttling and even if you don't monitor it live, you can check it afterwards (assuming HWInfo is running in the background) cause the Max values will switch to "Yes". I tested it on my FX505DU which has an AMD Ryzen 7 3750H.
Would you recommend it buying when you just use it for photo/ videoediting (I know that the panel has not the best colours but that do not annoy me) and to play some games like Apex Legends?
I've tested thermals of the 4600H + 1650 Ti model here: ua-cam.com/video/XfpcXDZN4yE/v-deo.html
What cooling pads do you use jarrod
I cannot wait for the 1660 Ti review to come for this laptop! Your videos have helped me choose which type of laptop to buy in the near future
@@shivansharora4647 It's in the description, thermaltake massive 20.
Super excited for all the upcoming videos. 😁
@@JarrodsTech oh sorry, my bad
Someone: a new efficient CPU in town .
ASUS: Block them vents, we need a consistent 90c.
An employee: the 4600h is even cooler!
ASUS: Get rid of some pipes ASAP.
Yeah dude, that's really disappointing, just wondering why TF asus did this kind of treatments for their AMD Ryzen line up models, i mean "ALL of THEIR RYZEN MODEL".
Its a real shame u cant undervolt the Ryzen chips. That actually makes them not worth buying. My I7 and rtx 2060 both run so much better undervolted.
@@bradbeyers9028 Would not be needed. Asus has deliberately nerfed the thermals.
@@bradbeyers9028 Imagine there is motor manufacturer. It builds the most powerful and efficient motors in the world and Ford implements its into their car with blocks instead of wheels. Then you see a review of that car and state that the motor sucks, because the car is not accelerating.
@@WCIIIReiniger This is so frustrating! Even the dell g5 se has a poor thermal design. AMD should make their own laptops.
I think your reviews are hot ✌🏽🔥
🔥🔥 thermal throttling over here!
Lol
Jarrod'sTech Yeah 😁
@@ChaitanyaThorat and ur mine name same lol
Me: researching tuf a15
Jarrod: releases tuf a15 video
As the prophecy foretold.
@@masternobody1896 Gaming laptops were never meant to replace your gaming pc.... its common sense that something smaller will be unable to match its larger counterpart..... Gaming laptops are mostly for those who dont have a space to keep a gaming pc or want to carry around high powered machines with them (like college students who mostly live in small dorm rooms)
@@masternobody1896 ofc You won't get the PC and laptop of the same specs for the same performance for the reasons: heat is the important thing, and as Abhigyan said gaming laptop aren't supposed to be replaced or reliable because many people do have problem to carry around or do travel a lot. That's the main reason why gaming laptop exist
@@JarrodsTech Bro I'm building a PC just for gaming.....so what should I choose....ryzen 5 3500 rtx 2060 super or ryzen 5 3600 rtx 2060 ....plz reply
This happens everytime to me
Hey guys! Regarding undervolting for the 4800H, you can pretty much accomplish the same thing with Ryzen Controller! I've been playing around with it, and have found that I can cap my CPU temp at pretty much anywhere I want it to be, depending on the TDP I select! So you know, the conversion rate for the program's TDP vs. the chip's TDP isn't exactly 1:1, but after some fiddling around, I still found values that worked!
For instance, when I'm playing games (in performance mode) my stock CPU temp holds at the typical 95C, while the GPU holds at its typical 86C. NOW, when I set a TDP in Ryzen Controller of say, 15 watts, for example (while simultaneously undervolting my GPU in MSI Afterburner at 1500MHz@0.700V), I have achieved a CPU temp of 85C, and GPU of 75C. All while dropping my FPS by only like 10% or so (if at all, depending on the game). BTW the setting of 15 watts in RC doesn't actually mean my true CPU TDP is now sitting at 15 watts, as I have seen it actually float anywhere between 15 and 25 at this setting. So like I said, the conversion rate isn't actually 1:1; you'll just have to play around with it. But anyways, if I want a lower CPU temp, I just pick a lower TDP, and get a lower framerate. Inverse is naturally true, too. I just like to game at 85C or so on average. Basically though, the program is quite granular, meaning that I could set a TDP of 17 watts if I wanted, and game at 89C on the CPU and 78C on the GPU. The overall improvements in CPU temps, BTW, aren't as effective without simultaneously undervolting/underclocking the GPU (as they share heatpipes, remember). But fortunately, undervolting/underclocking the GPU doesn't appear to be having any effect on performance, whatsoever, regardless of whether I manipulate my CPU's TDP or not. Oh, and of course, turbo mode only adds an additional layer of improvement over all these values. I just like to game on performance mode because I prefer the quieter fan noise. Also, the Ryzen Controller's "Maximum CPU Temperature" setting doesn't seem to have any effect on the 4800H, so the only useful part of the tool as of late seems to be the CPU's TDP setting.
Ultimately, the biggest benefit I see to Ryzen Controller is that I am still seeing turbo boost kick in at the appropriate levels, vs seeing it capped at a lowly 1.7GHz when using the "99% trick" or 2.9GHz using the new registry trick that disables turbo boost. Of course, when capping my TDP using RC the maximum boost speeds I am seeing are a little less, like 3-3.4GHz vs 4 or so. But that is surely an improvement over a locked 1.7GHz or 2.9GHz, and to which makes a big difference in the average FPS for my games! Also, by manipulating the TDP using RC, I have achieved better control over my temps as opposed to the more modest improvements I get when using the turbo-boost-disabling registry trick.
Hope this helps, and happy gaming!
Alrighty, so here's a particular benchmarking analysis that I ran as an example. This is the DiRT Rally benchmark, with almost everything set to ultra, along w/ 4XAA:
STOCK EVERYTHING =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 95.0C / 86.0C
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 125.40 / 98.28 / 156.58
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1319 MHz @ 0.709 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 19.1 W / 67.2 W
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STOCK CPU + GPU UV/OC =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 95.0C / 86.0C
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 128.17 / 96.86 / 167.45
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 20.9 W / 64.7 W
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99% TRICK =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 83.2 / 86.0
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 80.65 / 53.16 / 110.96
MAX CPU CLK: 1700 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1634 MHz @ 0.849 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.6 W / 74.4 W
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99% TRICK + GPU UV/OC =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 75.9 / 74.2
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 79.45 / 52.58 / 105.39
MAX CPU CLK: 1700 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.0 W / 50.1 W
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TB DISABLED =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 88.7 / 84.6
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 118.43 / 83.47 / 162.66
MAX CPU CLK: 2890 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1413 MHz @ 0.739 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.1 W / 69.7 W
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TB DISABLED + GPU UV/OC =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 84.4 / 80.5
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 125.33 / 84.48 / 168.51
MAX CPU CLK: 2890 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.9 W / 64.8 W
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RC TDP @ 8W =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 87.8 / 84.7
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 116.42 / 90.18 / 150.84
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1421 MHz @ 0.744 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.3 W / 70.7 W
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RC TDP @ 8W + GPU UV/OC =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 84.5 / 80.5
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 121.01 / 93.26 / 149.23
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 14.6 W / 65.9 W
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RC TDP @ 9W =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 91.2 / 85.8
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 118.12 / 91.03 / 155.67
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1233 MHz @ 0.681 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.6 W / 60.1 W
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RC TDP @ 9W + GPU UV/OC =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 85.7 / 80.9
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 126.20 / 96.98 / 163.15
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 15.8 W / 66.0 W
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RC TDP @ 11W + GPU UV/OC =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 90.0 / 81.7
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 129.47 / 81.51 / 166.97
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 18.6 W / 65.8 W
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RC TDP @ 6W + GPU UV/OC =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 78.2 / 76.3
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 110.62 / 82.08 / 138.84
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 12.0 W / 65.3 W
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RC TDP @ 5W + GPU UV/OC =
AVG CPU / GPU TEMP: 75.7 / 74.2
AVG / MIN / MAX FPS: 101.30 / 77.67 / 133.44
MAX CPU CLK: 4292 MHz
AVG GPU CLK: 1500 MHz @ 0.700 V
AVG CPU / GPU PWR: 10.9 W / 62.6 W
CONCLUSION: If you're looking for a quick and dirty, set-it-and-forget-it mod, it appears that disabling turbo boost while simultaneously undervolting/overclocking the GPU will generally yield you pretty good results while leaving your FPS on par w/ stock no less! THEN, if you want ultimate control, you can alternatively squeeze a little more FPS out of your games -- depending on how you feel about your temps -- by using Ryzen Controller, albeit thus requiring a little trial and error along the way to find the ideal TDP value. Basically, one method (the turbo-boost-disabling method) keeps CPU temps down by capping your boost clocks, while the other method (the RC method) keeps CPU temps down by capping your TDP. The two work in similar ways -- but differently -- and as such, each have their own respective benefits depending on which game you play / what your goals are. (The RC method works better for me when playing NFS, for instance, as it does a better job at preventing me from going over 90C, while the turbo-boost-disabing method works better for me when playing DiRT Rally, as it doesn't seem to push me past 85C anyways). AND FINALLY, if you're into squeezing as much gameplay out of your machine for as little power spent (and fan noise) as possible -- like gaming on battery for instance -- nothing beats the RC method, hands down. Not even the 99% trick. (And certainly not the turbo-boost-disabling trick, nor the Silent Mode profile in Armoury Crate, for that matter, either.) I mean, 78C/76C on the CPU/GPU, w/ 110 FPS average, all while using only 12W/65W of CPU/GPU power? SOLD!
Ultimately though, the real mod that is making these CPU mods worth doing is the GPU undervolting/overclocking mod using MSI afterburner! For without it, CPU temps just aren't as capable of dropping so easily (because of how the two share heatpipes). Thank goodness for MSI Afterburner!
@@zoinbergs Wow, your comment is incredibly helpful. Thanks a lot man!
William Montgomery It’s seems that the RC TDP @ 11W + GPU UV/OC is the best way to lower down the temp but what does RC TDP @ 11W means? I’m thinking of getting this or a MSI laptop with a i7 9 gen but the ryzen 7 4800h is better than the the i7 but I heard it has a good cooling and build. Idk which one to get.
@@mp3sefu RC TDP @ 11W means that I set a value of 11 in Ryzen Controller for the CPU TDP value. (Of course, the conversion rate for "set" TDP vs the "true" TDP the CPU will be running at isn't actually 1:1, so fortunately by setting it at 11 you're not **actually** going to see the CPU physically capped at 11 watts (as evidenced by its reported 18.6W use in HWInfo64). But yes, ultimately I have found that a TDP value of 11 to 13 in RC yields me the best results in games, depending on how CPU intensive the game is. Fortunately, you can simply minimize the game, change the TDP value on the fly, and then restore back into the game without restarting it, so the trial-and-error aspect of the tweak is easy to put up with!
Personally, I have had great success with ASUS. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend their products to anyone. (Not a paid endorsement here, I'm just a repair technician by trade).
tyvm for all that info and testing. So for everyday use with chrome/netflix and the Sims4 / Assassins creed kind of titles should i just set the 99% cpu trick to prevent too much heating ? What do you suggest.
Super clear graphs, amazing content, super helpful man !
Thanks for trying the "disabling turbo" fix ! Btw you don't have to completely disable it, if you read the first comment on that reddit post, putting it at "efficient aggressive" let's you keep the boost when it's really needed.
I hope they will do something at Bios level...
Good job mate. Can't wait to see the 4800 in more laptops
Thanks! Me too! So far I have just one other, another A15 but with 1660 Ti, apparently the G5 I bought has a June 18 ETA despite buying it 11 days ago and they advertised it with a 5-8 day delivery time lol.
hey i love and subscribed to two of your channel and keep it up!
I like how you give details on the surface temps. For laptop gaming, it is almost more important than cpu and gpu temps. Because you will forget all about the high framerate once you start feeling discomfort in your palms.
Internal temps are important, too, because of the throttle.
@@Zysperro thats why i said "almost". I can ignore throttling if framerates are decent like say 70fps instead of 110fps. But i CANNOT tolerate a burning wrist/palm.
@@pipebomber04 LoL. The REAL throttling starts at 95+ and it's not just slight fps drop - it causes micro-freezes that make gaming exp a torture. You can work around high surface temps by using additional keyboard+mouse, but you can't really avoid high temps throttling caused by bad architecture (Cooling pad rarely helps).
@@Zysperro i have been playing on throttling laptops since my college days until today. And micro stuttering almost doesnt happen. Using an external keyboard makes the laptop screen farther away.
As per content you really need more subscribers.....
We'll get there!
@@JarrodsTech OH HELL YEAH! ;D
I dremeled out more slits right over the fans on my A15. Dropped my temps by about 10c. The fact that I had to void my warranty for proper airflow is ridiculous. ASUS really dropped the ball on this bottom panel. I cannot imagine it would have cost them but a few pennies more to cut out a bit more airflow.
Maybe it was because they wanted a more rugged design that could survive getting dropped I’m not sure it looks like the designers thought about it
the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act in the US would suggest your warranty is intact. if you are US resident that is. Many countries like Canada, USA and Germany restrict when a manufacturer can void your warranty and for what reaosn. They would have to show your modifications caused the issue that it was being serviced for.
I bought my A15 a week ago, i've enjoyed it a lot! My main problem with it is the temp, however it doesn't get THAT hot, so its fine for my use at least. i bought a cooling pad which has ventilators right where the vents are on the lapto, i hope this works better. Overall i think its a grat bang for the buck and most of the people that criticize it have never owned one, so take it with a grain of salt. Overall it is a great video Jarrod!
also, this is a lot cheaper in my country than the Helios 300, Omen 15 and basically same price as Lenovo Y540 and Nitro 5. Specs I believe is the most bang for the buck for USD$1,700 here. For example, the Alienware M17 R3 with RTX 2070 here is USD$3,600 and the OMEN 15 with 2070 Max Q is USD$2,300
I play just tota war and other strategy games.. All games I played with my Xbox one x and 4k TV.. So do recommend it to me?
@@RTXTi-vu2gz those games are more cpu than Gpu intensive. I would go for the 4800h with GTX 1660. But yes i would the CPU is a beast and if you don't mind the hotter than usual (within manufacturer limits) themals its a full go! Totally recommend I've been loving my laptop!
Look here! Ill help you Max performance at lower temp. 89°C 3800 hz and avarage of 105 fps on cod bo cold war. To get this you need to download ryzen controller program. Tdp set to 35, boost tdp to 42 and after boost set tdp to 32. This is fot ryzen 7 4800h. If you have different processor you need to check what tdp your processor normally has. R7 4800h has 35 tdp.
Give this a like if it helped you so others see it. Thanx and good luck guys!
@@andrematty2356 where can i download the ryzen controller?
The weird vents are probably related to the "millitary grade" dust resillience (if air isn't getting in, dust isn't either" and the "self cleaning" fan blades.
MrHamncheez Can’t they put filters over the vents?
The fans are using centrifugal rejection of dust particles that get pushed down channels and out of the machine as opposed to through the heat sinks if my understanding is correct
That didn't prevent my cpu fan from becoming a brick of dust after 4 months
Great review. I look forward to see 4800H in more systems.
+1
Iv been using this laptop for three weeks and my answer is "no it isnt, the temperature was normal for 8 core 12 threat laptop"
Is it usable during longer gaming sessions? I genrally play Sekiro, Destiny 2.
How is the performance so far? Are you satisified? Should I jump the shark and buy this laptop?
@@oxnyz1883 i've played ac odyssey on it for about 5 hours and i didn't feel any problems. No lagging at all
@@oxnyz1883 whilst playing destiny 2 at max settings im averagely at 90 degrees with the cpu @40W, gpu sits at 87 degrees but pulls 100W but i dont notice any lag or throttling but the boost generally drops from 4.5Ghz to about 3.6Ghz but i did notice a spike for a brief second of 100 degrees, i believe asus could have done better with the cooling
@@dudz1055 apparently there's some upscaling or something that the Ryzen options have enabled... If you switch that off it runs cooler?
@@BigEezie im not exactly sure where to find this setting
High quality, thorough, and well explained as always! Great video.
I will say though that modding the bottom panel might not be a great idea. As you said, it's (likely) designed that way to pull air over other components, cooling them in the process. Your CPU/GPU temps might drop slightly, but other components are going to be missing out on that cooling, which could impact its longevity. I modded the bottom panel of my Asus G51 back in the day and ended up covering it back up for this reason.
Thanks, while I wouldn't recommend it, people did find that the G15 thermals improve by taking off plastic covers over the fans, so figured same principle would probably apply here too if you're desperate.
Interesting GoTeamScotch, looks like thermal repaste is the only thing I can do to reduce heat as cooling pads looks to not work on this one well.
So , in essense , a bad design by ASUS... Either bad thermals in general , or bad thermals for specific components like VRM? Idk why ASUS is doing this , same with G15 ... Honestly, the G14 has same or better thermals than G15 and TUF and it runs CPU at the same 35 W...
6000rpm coolingpad might help, suncell coolingpad
@@ianjasperona3576 find a cooling pad with bigger fans. they can spin slower and still move as much air as smaller faster fans
When ever i look up a laptop, idk how you know what I'm searching for and Seconds later boom there's your review 😂😂
This statement should be added in the list of Universal truth.
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Jarrod never disappoints, he always exceeds expectations.
I know you have logogit plus on your phone.
All we wait that video. Thanks Jarrod the Hero :)
No problem!
Testing has shown that Asus' weird vent covering on the bottom severely hinders temps on the CPUs in these machines. No idea why they did that, but yuck.
@@AysDoStuff No, because it's TUF. TUF build design and quality are just shit. Almost explicitly built to be shit.
@Zieg such a shame really, just putting a few more holes at almost no extra manufacturing cost could have solve all this bad reputation to TUF series
Hardware Unboxed also did a similar video on this. The TUF series are disappointing...
@Zieg The panel is bad, the design of the frame is bad, even the finish is bad imo.
Then there's the problem with TUF mobos and graphic cards. Shit thermals and build quality. TUF is just bad, and Asus are just trying to scam people with their "new budget line".
Because of money, obviously
Love my G14, got the white $1449 BB model. Used your reviews to make my decision, and I have to say it was a great one. With Performance Boost turned off in windows, I am getting 60-70C under full load. You loose about 1.2GHz, but 20C lower temps is much better for me. If I ever need 4.2GHz I can just toggle it back on. Thank you for your detailed reviews.
I just got this thing today and its a monster. Amazing FPS in every game Ive played on highest settings. Love it
How is the Temperature while gaming?Pls I am thinking to buy this laptop but I have troubles because of the thermal
@@zerorl4481 There is too much power in this machine to ignore it's fair price. I'd rather save $1,000 and figure out thernal cooling solutions overtime than spend $2,000 on a machine that *may* run games slighty better.
@@magno172 I'm considering just dremeling open some more vents... Supposedly there's also a paper(?) covering over one of the fans. Another reviewer removed it and her temps got drastically better.
@@soroneir1260 please see the advice on using ryzen controller and MSI afterburner in this comments section before having to cut holes in the base. It was also stressed that the vram gets cooled through the vents in between the rear heat sinks and if you cut it open it will cause less air to be drawn that way. It works great and i now have peak cpu temp of 81 and 79 on the GPU.
Loads of info here as per usual - thank you for taking the time to do this.
Do you have any idea when you will be reviewing the new Lenovo 5, 5i and 7i - these look like great machines on paper.
Keep up the good work!
Your reviews are really really neat. Keep up the good work! By the way, when are you doing a review of the ROG Zephyrus G15?
Thanks, no ETA, still not available in Australia :(
@@JarrodsTech That's unfortunate. I hope it becomes available to you soon. Besides that, your reviews are informative, well made, of good quality and detailed. Big thanks.
Brilliant Asus engineers
have designed unique tuf and strix solutions.
So that there were at least some differences between them, they removed the ventilation holes in the tuf.
As a result, it heats up to 100 degrees.
To prevent the laptop from working for too long, the ssd was placed next to the heat pipe to heat up to 75 degrees.
So it gets hot.
Edit: you’re nearly 200K subs! Getting larger.
Let's gooooo!
That's Asus blame not AMD, Asus blocked intakes for coolers... Easy fix is to drill same holes on the back of the cover...
@@hugobalbino2041 And then void any warranty?
@@Hiscocks2008 sry for the late reply but pick your poison to keep your laptop blocked from the air and eventually dies of heat or void your warranty and make holes on the back cover using a precision tool like a Dremel to make a proper intake vents !?
@@Hiscocks2008 the warranty lasts only for so long. Drill holes after that maybe ?
Dude great job, you are the best for this job in youtube, no doubt. I'm planning to buy a laptop but I cant decide which one is better ASUS TUF A15 ,Acer Helios 300 or Lenovo legion y540. What is your opinion, if you answer I'd be happy.
Just get a G531, repaste it and thank me later.
I'm having same confusion
Yes I am also getting a new laptop but I am also confused as which one should I pick Acer nitro 5 Acer pradetor hellios 300 with i5 and gtx 1660 ti or Asus A15 with ryzen with rtx 2060 can any one pzz help me
@@V3doP4jzs thx for the advice, I really like the rog but unfortunetly at the same price these 3 laptops comes with 1660 ti but the rog series comes with 1650 :(
@@phantomphorever9764 G531 costs slightly more, because it has better cooling than the other laptops you mentioned. It does not matter if a laptop has better graphic card than the other, if you can not use its full capacity because of cooling issues. I bought Helios 300 first, I sent it back to the shop because it was loud as hell and was way too hot. Since half a year I have G531, you need to repaste the cooling system, UV (like Helios 300 does automaticaly with predator sense) and you will have no heat proplems in games! Or you buy TUF, Helios 300 or Legion 540, and will constatly have heat issues, frame drops in games, and your laptop will be damaged more likely beacuse of high temperatures.
Jarrod, review the new hp omen in production, as soon as it releases, thanks!! ♥️♥️💪
HP hates Jarrod’s guts unfortunately ☹️
@@jay-5061 Lmao, sad.
That’s one spicy review! Always love your breakdowns. Bummed to hear there is no way to undervolt the Ryzen CPU’s, but I’m sure that’s in the works in some way - because that will no doubt help the throttling and performance. This would help the thermals as well, but glad to see it’s keeping cool though!
That said - I love everything about this laptop and the price, except the competitor G5 seems to the back placed inputs (USB C, Ethernet, etc). This is one thing business laptops have done for years, and I always wonder why so few consumer grade have done this.
Hey there! I've been able to lower the TDP of my 4800H using "Ryzen Controller," which is almost the same as undervolting. By doing so, I have been able to manipulate my temps down to the exact degree. The actual TDP > TDP conversion rate isn't 1:1, so I pretty much start with 20 in RC and go up or down from there. But basically, I have achieved great frames rates, at great temps, and have been quite satisfied with the program thus far!
For example, I have my TDP set for NFS Payback at 15 watts, and have my GPU locked (using MSI Afterburner) at 1500MHz/0.700V, and have been able to achieve ~100 FPS on high settings w/ 4XAA while holding 85C on the CPU and 75C on the GPU. Like I said, I could go up or down on the CPU temp, by about a 1.5 degrees per TDP value. I just find myself most comfortable sitting at 85C or so, while still being able to achieve super high frame rates at pretty high detail levels. Basically if I wanted to see 75C on the CPU, for example, I would just lower the TDP in RC to 14 or 13 or something (and would thus be seeing ~80 FPS while playing).
Hope this helps, and happy gaming!
Hey! I've done the turbo -disable for a few days now in the G14 and it is life changing. When I'm working on exporting video, etc, I simply switch to a new power plan that I created. This way, at the touch of ONE click, I can go from 75 C CPU at 3 GHz to 90 C CPU at 4.3 GHz at best times. Crazy performance and also crazy heat reduction if you want. Thumbs up to that guy in reddit!
Still mindboggling how the 35W 4900HS and the 45W 4800H shit on the insanely powerhungry intel chips.
Dayum! The shit's hot and that too at 21C. Imagine living in a place where summer temps regularly cross 40C(AC not available every time). I would really prefer my laptop not exploding lol. I was considering this laptop but weak thermals combined with poor pricing in my region (for now) and that slow and dull display gets this laptop a pass from me. Asus really botched the thermal layout.
Also can't thank you enough for testing with turbo boost off. The thermals are better but still not great considering the temps at my place.
Yeah man. Laptop pricing is crazy in India. I was considering this one as well but thermals and display turned me off. Let's what Acer does with an updated Predator series.
40c and no ac?! maybe the US isnt so bad lol. ignore the shit show though. media is the biggest problem
@@bradhaines3142 LMAO. The thing is I use my laptop either at my home or my uni hostel. My home has an AC while my hostel room doesn't which is the story of pretty much every government college in India lol. I just don't want a situation where I have to rely on an AC for gaming.
40C is not unbearable for us tho lol. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
@@kimasot6206 yeah we thrive at 40C
@@localghost3000 Exactly tho I can see the price dropping in a couple of months or maybe even weeks. It happened with the last TUFs as well. They really screwed the screen and thermals tho. I think the last year's Helios is still a great deal considering you can make do with a average battery. The prices would be dropping now to make way for new stock.
You're the best laptop reviewer. ❤️️
Wow, thanks!
Still waiting for the Dell XPS 13/15 review. Hope to see it soon. You have the most detailed reviews!
I'm pretty sure that most intake air for this laptop comes in from the rear. Notice that the fans and heatsinks are only using about 2/3 of the rear vents on the left and right to exhaust hot air, and there's a vent in the middle that's intake-only. It's not a bad design. The laptop doesn't need more holes in the bottom.
Thanks Jarrod, really helpful as I now know what to expect with my upcoming A15 as this is the same exact configuration I got.
Looks like I gotta do a thermal repaste and open/cut some holes from the bottom 🤣😂
No problem! Haha if you actually do the holes I'd be interested to hear if it helps.
@@JarrodsTech will sure do!
Thinking I'd do the same. Cheers
@@JarrodsTech hey Jarrod, thought I share it with you guys.
Here an explanation from ASUS last January about the bottom panel. What you guys think? 🤔
ua-cam.com/video/ZIoID2kOCso/v-deo.html
Hey Jarrod, I'm waiting on your review for either the 2020 Acer Nitro 5 or the Legion5 with Amd processors.
Thanks Jarrod once again for this review..!! :)
Could you possibly just highlight the battery comparisons and the price differences in your full review - because some units are having 48Whr and some 90Whr..!! Thanks once again..
Fortnite on low set. FPS?
Hi, thanks for the review. I was waiting for it. Although I'm still pissed about it's pricing here😤 I'd rather get a helios 300 at this price.
No problem! Yeah fair enough
What's the price??
Yes i do agree, the pricing here in India is a complete shit😑
Acer is the best, ive never had problems with their laptops
Ifkr! The price in India is crap! Helios 300 seems much more value for money
Jarrod any plans on doing a review on the DELL G5 SE ? Thank you
Yes, see here: ua-cam.com/users/postUgy1H4Uhd4YXtmXSWFF4AaABCQ
@@JarrodsTech Great news!
@@JarrodsTech thanks bro
Please review MSI GE66!! You’re reviews are exactly what we need. Zero bias!
nice dividing the sections of your video! keep up the great work!
Cheers!
Thanks Jarrod. Can we expect similar reviews with legion 5 amd laptops?
Yes, once they are available in my country, no ETA yet though.
are they gonna use a 60hz screen their?
@@JarrodsTech Thanks Jarrod. Ur inputs will help largely in deciding between these two models. Looking forward for the reviews/comparison 👍
Commenting and liked before watching the video, and am sure video is great. Cannot leave the class two times in a row. 😅
Haha cheers!
Great explanation, new suscriber!. Greetings from Perú.
i have this laptop for 2 weeks now and it doesn't disappoint, it is a great laptop.
It performs well as per my experience and in terms of temperature it doesn't get too hot even on performance mode which is the one in using when gaming , i do not measure the Temp the way you do it , I only refer to the stats of the games i am playing.
EXAMPLE - when I play COD MW War Zone (normally 3 to 4 hours a day) - the GPU Temp never exceeded 84 Degrees Celsius which I would say NORMAL. Its probably because my air condition is too cold in my room or device handles it pretty well.
Thank you for this video because i learned a lot more about my laptop, more power and hoping for more videos in the future.
This is my choice also for cod warzone. And this will be my 1st laptop. Would you recommend buying this laptop? What is the gpu of ur laptop? Available here is only tje 1650ti. Ty
EL EL highly recommended, i have the rtx 2060
@@LEYpuge101 hope the 1650ti with 4800h will not exceed 84 degC same as yours. Thanks.
Great video! can you help me with a information. Wich one of them two laptops would you recommend MSI GF65 Thin 15.6” Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7, RTX 2060, 256 GB SSD or ACER Nitro 5 AN517 17.3" Gaming Laptop - Intel® Core™ i7, RTX 2060, 256 GB SSD. They are both same price 999pounds in uk. Thank you!
If they're the same price msi
MSI all the way.
Hey, Does playing in high temperatures affect the laptops performance after some months or years ?
Got you covered with this one: jarrods.tech/is-it-safe-to-play-games-on-a-gaming-laptop-for-hours/
@@JarrodsTech thank you ♥️
@@JarrodsTech Thank you for this link. My tuf a15 does not go higher than 88 base on msi afterburner. Thank you again for this wonderful information.
Great video as always💪
I'm glad you've started showing the base clock lock Jarrod, it's a tweak I use on all my gaming laptops to keep CPU temps in check and find it very useful for people that don't want to deal with almost 100'C laptops haha
This was a test to see if there was interest, wasn't really planning on doing it much in future but some people asked about it for this machine specifically, so I guess if there is I can keep doing it - I'm personally not a fan 😅
Please compare the temps with other laptops of the same intel specs.
Since days I am hesitating between this and the G14
What did you choose?
@@Zaid-rv5wy I chose g14
Just when i was about to get one. Thank you so muccch
Thanks for the consistent effort man!
How did you breakdown the video into different parts? Is it a new feature in youtube?
Yeah new UA-cam thing, basically you just do normal timestamps in the description and they add it in.
@@JarrodsTech how do you add timestamps in youtube?
Wait, how I don’t get it.
@@uttankkaul8325 I think you just add it to the description of your video. Look at the description of this vid
@@uttankkaul8325 ua-cam.com/video/HZTStHzWRxM/v-deo.html
NEXT: DO LENOVO LEGION 5 👊👊
Yeah cooling looks much better on those and bigger battery too
For everyone that's interested in A15/17, also, if you have SVM enabled (which is very important for me, app development), screen flickering occurs, which is very annoying
Excellent review man. I prefer laptops with a premium build quality though. Waiting for your razer blade 15 2020 reviews and probably then I’ll take a decision between msi gs66 and razer blade 15.
When is the eluktronics RP-15 review coming
Hey, dude, do you think the AMD' Low L3 cache is making the gaming fps not that great as the benchmarks？
No the CPU here gets very low power when the GPU runs at 90W, compared intel laptops.
Come on guys, this channel deserves 500k subs or even more!! Im here just to say keep up the amazing work man, you re one of the best Tech Channel on UA-cam hands down!
I just bought this (still waitin for it to ship to my country) only difference i have is 32 gigs of ram and I'm thankful for your review I'm ok with these temps cause my old laptop was worse in heat and slower
Can the components be damaged if we play games at 90c+ constantly?
Playing games at 90+ constantly means that the components will give up or die sooner... Maybe in 2 years it will start thermal throttling. Also the fact that cooling pads are not helping means it is a BAD choice.
If it gets that high, accomplish what it needs to and then lowers, everything's fine. BUT say if you are gaming for a few hours, then all the machine is gonna be heated a lot and so some components got temperature tolerance, or limits. It may and WILL: increase electrical resistance which will reduce efficiency, faster electrical pathways degradation, even low temperature solder may melt (ok that one is rare or even non-existent on recent hardware, screw you internet and fake news). Here are some info I found here and there:
- HDDs and SSDs
As per Seagate response: "The operating temperature range for most Seagate hard drives is 5 to 50 degrees Celsius."
Most SSDs are rated for running within a temperature range of 0ºC up to a max temp of 70ºC. WD red HDDs can operate from 0 up to 70ºC. However, studies like the one Facebook conducted in their own data centers found that the hotter your SSD runs, the quicker it wears out the flash memory inside of the drive. So while an SSD can technically operate at the higher ranges advertised by manufacturers, you’re going to get better data integrity and more life out of your SSD if you keep it cool.
Also note that HDDs S.M.A.R.T. feature stores the highest temperature attained. If it ever surpasses it's rated max temp, it may void the warranty.
- Battery
As per iFixit: "If You Leave It Plugged In, Don’t Let It Run Hot. Keeping your laptop plugged in regularly, with the battery charged to 100 percent, isn’t slowly killing it, despite what you may read. The exception is if your laptop runs hot. This could be because you’re doing a lot of compiling, rendering, or other intensive work, or because it’s hot where the laptop is used, due to sunlight, exhaust, or other factors. When you combine a battery at maximum capacity with serious heat exposure, that’s when it starts taking damage and losing life."
- GPUs and CPUs
Lots of GPUs will operate comfortably up to 95ºC, CPUs up to 105ºC. You may need to check yours but I wouldn't fear as those are made to last.
-RAM and motherboard
Couldn't find any evidence as to what maximum temperature is safe to run under.
OK we're done so lower is better, how low is good? Well it shall never fall below room temperature as water drop would form onto components due to condensation.
Anyways as a rule of thumb: lower is better, a laptop is not meant to be up and running all day, and wear a face cover if you go somewhere and you can't stay 2m afar from random people. :-)
Jarrod: IS IT HOT
Me: It looks pretty hot, i'll date him
appreciate your review mate... really nice review!!
Cheers Jarrod! I grabbed a G14, and after a proper undervolt + overclock on the GPU, the 2060 Max-Q matches/beats your 2060 90W results on the TUF A15 with better thermals (according to this video - sub 90/80 on "performance" mode). It seems that the GPU is the larger contributor to the overall heat of the system (makes sense). I haven't repasted it yet, either.
I'm not sure if you personally use any of these machines, but I highly recommend doing a proper undervolt on the GPU for these thin and light gaming laptops. Could also be a whole new range of videos for your channel, too. Stay healthy!
Good to hear! I don't touch GPU undervolting personally, I hate dragging the one billion balls in MSI Afterburner, maybe if they update the software to do them in bulk. The main reason though is that back when I was trying it for the first time I tried it on 5 machines with no improvement so haven't bothered ever since, I guess it varies by machine.
@@JarrodsTech Well, if you get bored, give it a go. Good news is the mobile chips don't boost as high as the desktop variants... so there are a lot less balls to drag lol. My SOTTR went from 73fps to 80fps, Strange Brigade from 101fps to 111fps. Both on 1080, highest preset. Should note I OC'ed the memory +600MHz. Appeared to have no effect on temps.
How's everything across the pond?
@@JarrodsTech Hey Jarrod, just following up on this. Wanted to share my undervolt settings. You can see it's not a ton of "ball-moving". i.imgur.com/QKx7iNL.png
Cheers!
I'm looking forward for Eluktonics matrix RP 15, it seems too good to be true
Me too but with at least a 2070 bro
it isn't too good to be true, it has a small 60 watt hour battery. Now if that laptop had 90 watt hour battery like MAG 15 it would be perfection
@tabaluga check their Twitter out they upgraded the battery now. Not quite as the mag but is an increase
I would also like to see this laptop reviewed. Have my eye on the eXmg Neo 15 which is the same I think, and the 2060 it's advertised as 110 watts. Would be interesting to see how it performs against 90 watts 2070/2080
@@mw38390 they had 48 watt hours, later they upgraded to 60 watt hours I talked abotu in my comment. Still small for a gaming laptop, would most likely get around 5 hours of normal use like watching videos. And considering that unlike many other brands it doesn't have a battery charge limitation it would degrade quite fast and in like 3 years it would only have half the already small capacity.
thats a labtop I want, then I could worry about the temps ;D
Hey there Gabby, did you get one?
Because I received one yesterday.
@@lieveling and how is it?? Does it get hot??
@@ppaditya8146 Hey Aditya, feel free to contact me via other channels as you will get answers to all of your questions much faster.
Well, let's get to the point.
When i received the laptop and turned it to 'turbo' mode the temperature went high very fast without even doing anything only surfing the web.
When I was playing Saints Row 4 at ultra graphics it reached a crazy high temperature of 90 degree Celsius which is very bad. Currently i'm working on the temperatures of the laptop right now to get better temperatures.
@@ppaditya8146 if i'm not able to lower the temperatures, I'm going to return the laptop.
@@lieveling oh okay..
I'm confused which one to get.. thought of going for hp omen.. heard very good reviews. But slightly more expensive..
Thank Jarrod, really greate review. But can you make a test with 2 vacuum cooler on the back of the laptop. I hear those have great effect on lower the temperature but nobody seem to use it. May be it will hurt the internal fan in the long run?
I am also been thinking whether vacuum fan would work better here for a15
Hey there! I use the vacuum coolers, and while they don't work very well alone (as they only seem to induce the inside to ramp temps back up to max) they work WONDERS once you disable turbo boost while simultaneously undervolting/overclocking the GPU.
As in, with all three mods, I've been able to game in the high 60's / low 70's with ZERO loss in framerates! (Without the vacuum coolers I still see mid 80's for CPU and low 80's for GPU which is still great IMO).
As always, a well made video. I wonder why you are so underrated.
Those cpu temps are really really high! Could repasting give any help?
Everytime I open and search the a15 on amazon; it says that the price is unavailable or something along those lines..
Can you just please tell me the price of this configuration?
This one is suppose to go for 1200 USD, it will change if you xhange the components
I haven't looked at the price yet so can't say, I do that at the end of the review process, basically the last step.
$1200 USD for 4800H + 2060
wow that's pretty hot, both review and the laptop. i wonder how the 4800+1660ti variant performs, eyeing that config. if same, might have to wait for G5 SE or Legion 5. thanks Jarrod
hey jarrod, love your videos. any chance of reviewing the new hp omen 15(amd version)?
4800H: gets to 90 degrees in CPU only tasks.
Asus: let's make the 4600H(which has the same TDP) version cooling even worse!
I'd never trust ASUS they're as bad as Nvidia and Intel. Overrated and over priced.
Will you get in the new Ryzen omen?
Probably not, HP ignore me.
@@JarrodsTech time would tell
I hope they would soon be begging you to review their products
Hey Jarrod, great video as always! Really informative.
I was wondering, do you plan on reviewing the Acer Triton 300 PT315-52 and pitting it against the Asus TUF A15? Seems like it's quite the improvement over Triton 300 PT315-51 and might give the TUF A15 a good competition.
If you want good temps for Ryzen 4000 mobile series you could try adjusting the processor boost(that leaves it to 2900mhz- it goes over this target if the system can manage it). After that the CPU stays at 80 degrees and the fps almost the same(the bottleneck is the GPU in these laptops). Put this command in CMD(run as administrator): powercfg.exe -attributes sub_processor perfboostmode -attrib_hide . After that go in power plan->change plan settings->under processor power management->processor performance boost mode-> efficient agressive.
another amd machine with mediocre thermal design.
Not mediocre but deliberately nerfed.
Yeah it sucks so much I just want a top tier ultrabook with these components and enough cooling to let them run at 100% of their potential.. why is that so hard?
@@isbestlizard its not hard, they deliberately want people to go for the rog instead, so people end up paying twice the price for similar if not the same specs
you can do a comparison between tuf a15 and asus tuf fx505
great video btw
This Clip is so damn good . Keep going dude.
Good reviews.. so details.. do you have any plans to review Lenovo IdeaPad 5?
Thanks, yes, just trying to get it.
@@JarrodsTech thanks Jarrod
Man you are doing so well thanks
Thanks!
glad to see disable boosting is mentioned
💜
Thanks jarrod,
Since i sold my omen 15 (it was a hot machine) but my eyes are on this laptop with 90wh battery and im willing to spend extra for the shipping from US from what I could gather.
And I will mod the bottom, no one will stop me.
How do you do that?
Nice video jarrod. Any news the model will come with Configuration 4600h + 1660ti ?
Your review is awesome as usual Jarrod
#hats down
Thanks!
These "high" temperatures are not a problem. The whole idea behind turbo boost is that the CPU will run faster, i.e., give you better performance, as long as it's cool enough. If AMD engineers thought that temperatures over 90C were a problem, then the processor would stop turbo boosting in order to cool itself down. But it doesn't. So everything is working as AMD (and Asus) engineers intended, the temperatures are fine, and overall it's a pretty good cooling solution for a laptop.
So the question is do I buy this or an Intel device in the sma price bracket????? Also what is the quality of the screen? All reviews say the colours and brightness is crap??? But as always a great timely review
Great vid as always
Hi Jarrod thanks for you hardwork to review all this laptop for us.. just want to us is this laptop have nvidia optimus? Can we disable the optimus to get higher fps from game
Nice video bro.
BTW, Asus needs to work on the thermals and display.
Hey! Do you think i should get the TUF with 2060 or should i wait for the Lenovo 7i to be released ?
Loving your content big man, would suggest this with 1660 ti or the Del A15 amd cpu and gpu combo or the Lenovo legion with ryzen 7 4800h with 1660 ti
I recently got the Rysan 5 4600 with the GTX1650. It is performing pretty well so far.
the thermals are definently holding it back, once my warranty runs out I will change to liquid metal, k5 thermal past (replace thermal pads), add more copper heat sinks to give more surface area, and cut the back. I dont really use it as a laptop anymore since it is so loud but I will occasionally take it out
The bottom panel has plastic pads stuck to it from the inside right where the fans are. You can remove them to improve thermals.
You can check if thermal throttling happens using Hardware Info. It has 3 different values of CPU throttling and even if you don't monitor it live, you can check it afterwards (assuming HWInfo is running in the background) cause the Max values will switch to "Yes". I tested it on my FX505DU which has an AMD Ryzen 7 3750H.
This is what I was expecting for this laptop! Looking forward to your Dell G15 SE review :) Also, have you watched the new Eulektronics Matrix?
The video came out on the G15 SE and I got some bad news for you😪😂.
Would you recommend it buying when you just use it for photo/ videoediting (I know that the panel has not the best colours but that do not annoy me) and to play some games like Apex Legends?
Can you make a review of the best budget laptop to buy in 2020? Including the latest released gaming laptops? Thank you!
Nice video, can you please make an review video on MSI GF75