Ive seen this before with similar situations. Its like the parents just cannot believe their child is a psychopath.. They need to read up on it & do their best to be objective. Maybe its more truth than they can handle.
@@dreamsofturtles1828 Biology - it's his genes.. Maybe... Imagine if he found out, that his wife also had been a psycho, and that Erin was the daughter of some random murderer, that his wife had had an affair with, "because her husband was such a weak nice push over".. Stranger things happen..
Yeah that's exactly the reason. There are several other cases where a child killed or had somebody else kill their entire family and a parent survived. And then that parent will fight for them in court and visit them every week in prison etc because they have nothing left.
What angers me most about this case is that she continues to lie to her father and denies her involvement. While she remains behind bars, her father is in a prison of her making.
has lost its meaning when the priest doesn’t have a problem with his daughter having a boyfriend. As if fornication is not a major sin. I’m sorry but Christianity is dead. The so called Christians of today are all liberals who just think they are Christians. Nobody here is bothered about why it is wrong for an unmarried girl to have sexual relationships because fornication is considered all normal now. It’s a shame for those who call themselves Christians.
@rathergrumpy unless youve been in it and its your very own child, you cant really speak on what he should or shouldnt do...its easy to speak on without experience
These videos are SO well made! - No distracting music - No dramatization - Very well edited - minimal voiceover/captions that precisely highlight important clues - explains crucial info i.e. interrogation techniques or background info Thank you
No boring details about the victims favourite colour etc. No opinions or fake crying when talking about the crimes like the true crime creators all do. Puke
@@rebekahwolkiewicz449 Agree. Even with Terry advocating for his daughter’s release, I highly doubt any parole board would oblige. This case received so much attention, & I’m sure the public pressure to keep her locked up is very real.
I think Terry's advocating for her early release will make sure she'll never get out. It's sooo obvious that she can still manipulate him after all this and even previous attempts makes her look exactly like the psychopath she is. She'll never get out alive
I hope the father wakes up one day and sees his daughter for what she really is! The fact that she continues to manipulate him by making up other excuses shows how evil she is.
Sadly, I think refusing to believe she could've actually planned/wanted this, is the only way he can really cope with it. It may be serious denial on his part, but living with the knowledge that his own daughter tried to kill him and his entire family would be that much more unbearable for him to live with.
@@Frolic_Cesar It was said in the video they were a staunch Christian family. Children are hardwired to love their parents. If a child overcomes that programming it is because of abuse or a neurological defect they are born with. She was not born with a brain defect otherwise there would be a record of behavioural issues from since childhood therefore it was abuse that led to the unfortunate slaughter.
@@Squidlark Maybe you are right but didn't we learned from many other true crime documentaries and serial killer documentaries that they may have a completely normal even loving childhood home and still turn to gruesome murders? I am not arguing just curious.
I went to school with these guys. Rode the bus with Charlie and was good friends with some of the family. No one could have known these kids were capable of this. Glad to see y’all covering this story.
@@AmericanSpyFox Yeah my Dad was friends with the lady who had her face ripped off by that chimp, I almost never watch coverage of it, it's just so awful all the way around Can't imagine knowing anyone involved in this case victim or assailant, pretty horrific stuff...sorry you were at all close to this op
I understand that it's almost impossible to know your daughter got your whole family murdered but the evidence is pretty clear so I'm really hoping the father can eventually truly look at the facts and find peace with the truth😩
May the father find some sorta peace if that's possible...I don't know how he possibly can ... May he find q way to find some Happiness and possibly meet someone and have some semblance on normalcy ..prayers many many prayers.
I don't think I'll ever understand the American "justice" system. It was clear that Erin was the mastermind as well as the master manipulator. She manipulated Charlie into killing her family when he seemed to have a lot of reservations. He said he couldn't bring himself to hurt the kids so he must of had some empathy and sense of right and wrong somewhere within him. Erin on the other hand didn't care one iota about her family. And yet SHE has a chance at parole but Charlie has to die in prison? What the fuck is with that?
She is a juvenile, it is illegal to give a minor a life without parole sentence since it is deemed unconstitutional (Miller v Alabama). Charlie was 18 so the justice system could sentence him full extent
@@aks9840 *Minor privileges. She was a 16 year old. The justice system is prohibited from giving minors "life without parole" sentence due to Miller v Alabama. This is why she is given 2 consecutive life sentence plus more to try to equalize "life without parole." Trust, they probably wanted to give her that sentence but they legally could not do it
@@Griza_bella You're actually wrong about that. In regard to "Miller v Alabama" the court determined that mandatory life sentences without parole for juveniles who commit homicide was unconstitutional, thus illegal. However, juveniles may still be sentenced to discretionary life without parole for homicide cases but only after the sentencing court has determined, after a full hearing, that the youth is permanently incorrigible and incapable of rehabilitation. And knowing the degree of racism that exists in Alabama, I can imagine that quite a number of (black) juveniles would be found "incapable of rehabilitation" and sent to prison and forgotten. Also, in other states, the SCOTUS has only banned life without the possibility of parole for juveniles in non-homicide cases. If a juvenile has been charged with a homicide and found guilty, they can still spend the rest of their lives in prison. And just for clarity, the United States is the only country in the world that allows juveniles to be sentenced to life without parole even though it's condemned by international law. But of course it is.
So I'm thinking the 911 operator was relatively new; "Is he conscious?" " Yes." " Is he breathing?" I'm like...umm..Well he's conscious so I certainly hope so. Then insisting the caller stay on the line answering questions about the bleeding instead of saying something like put the phone down, don't hang up, go over to him and render any assistance you can to slow the bleeding, if possible come back to the phone. She must have been going off her question sheets thinking she'd needed to get it completely filled out.
Definitely sounded like she was just running through her check sheet without thinking about what was really happening on the other end of the line. Asking 101 questions, while someone is dying and a house is burning, like they have all the time in the world.
You know that's her job right? Handling emergency calls means you don't let them hang up you get as much information as you can, and while taking it she's sending it too three different services in this case police fire and ambulance while trying to stay on script and keep the caller safe. It's a high stakes job you can't be over emotional or panic.
@@nadia-tp1xv I’ve also seen on crime shows that the 911 call is key to solving some crimes and they try to get info while emotions are high. Operator did sound less than smooth, maybe new
@@nadia-tp1xv I believe that's the point they were making. It's a very important job that isn't for everyone. A 911 dispatch screw up costs lives like that kid that got crushed to death trying to get his sports equipment out of the vehicle. His death, although an accident, is on that dispatcher.
This is truly horrific. It’s bad enough when kids kill their parents because they want to be with someone who their parents disapprove of, but to also kill her younger brothers who obviously had nothing to do with that decision is just terrible. I’m glad the dad survived but I’m so sad for him having the rest of his immediate family gone except the one who took their lives 😞 Edit: oh ok, I wrote this before getting to the last part. Glad the dad has more kids and got remarried, although of course I’m sure they can’t replace his first wife and two sons.
@@juliannefost6351 ayy no problem man. Dont sweat it!! The spoiler was worth it cause wtf….. how u gonna almost die from ur teen asking their boyfriend to kill u, and then after almost dying and having ur kid convicted for murder/attempt murder, u refuse to believe theyd do that only cause they from ur balls/uterus… wack. If i had any kids and they tried to kill me or had a s-o try to off me id LITERALLY AND UNAPOLOGETICALLY fucking put them up for adoption
This also happened in india a girl killed her whole family with her boyfriend even her elder brother's three months old child..... Her boyfriend said that she herself killed the poor child...... After killing the whole family...... It occurred in haryana, india.....
What’s sad is she used her manipulative tactics to manipulate her own father/victim into thinking that she’s not capable of something she tried to have carried out more than once..she knew she was going to have children murdered there is no rehabilitating someone like that. Her dad should not want her to be released because then anyone around her is in danger of what she is clearly capable of.
Totally agree- dad wanting her to be released early is not considering the good of society. But it’s understandable that he needs to believe he didn’t raise a complete monster.
@@looksirdroids9134 oh I forgot everyone who is raised Christian does this 🥴 if Christianity was the only factor there would be a lot more familial annihilation.
I grew up and was from Alba, most of the people who knew these kids were from the next town over Emory. I was friends with the family’s preacher (and his children) for a time. This crime rippled and affected so many people. Terry came to our school (not the school Erin attended) and he told his story and it was gut wrenching to hear from a man who was so broken from his grievous loss. The love this father feels for his daughter is hard to fathom. However this person who planned and aided in what was Terry’s nightmare; is the only member of his family left.
My family owns pay n save in Alba! I remember when this happened. My mom ended up in the same prison as her(but my mom was in the trustees camp). Shit is crazy!
Such a sad stgory, I feel so sad for Terry. He clings on to any possibility that his daughters wasnt involved. He is a man with a broken heart but I'm glad he has found a way to keep living his life.
This is incredibly sad. I feel so sorry for the children. How can you murder two little children? Shot one in the face and stabbed one with swords? Tf.
I heard about this case in a documentary on Netflix, the daughter is so obviously guilty and it's heartbreaking the father stays faithful to her, knowing probably deep down that his own flesh and blood orchestrated the murder of his whole family.
Yeah she needs to stay her butt in jail. I’m not sure dad is really understanding the gravity of the fact his entire family was slaughtered under her direction. Murder is one of the worst things you can do, but she orchestrated the murder of her 4 family members. That’s overkill. If she gets out I don’t doubt she’ll remain in the system, eventually leading to someone else getting harmed or murdered. Her dad is all she has, so it makes complete sense why she would cling to him n feed him bits of hope that don’t cooperate with the evidence like at all. What a tragedy.
He’s the last link to the outside world that she’s able to try to get her little grimy manipulative fingers on. Gross. (Mine comment is probably a little more ‘mean’ 😉)
Mean? Think you were trolled. My response would have been along the lines of. And her manipulation of men around her and have her family slaughtered plus family dog. Isn't mean??? Your post was spot on... 😉
That poor family. This is so sad. People are crazy, and evil. Take care everyone, you can't trust anyone, anymore. How could you do this to these people? You're not just a sociopath, your a physopath girl. This was the people that loved you the most. What a cruel and cold-hearted girl you are. Thanks, for this upload. Great work.❤️🌹
@@eoinoconnell185 you can put the phone on speaker to assist the victim. Someone should put pressure on the wound immediately to get the bleeding under control.
@@eoinoconnell185 that isn't helpful, especially in cases where someone is being hunted down by another person. I'd personally throw them the address, a run down of the situation, and hang up. That's all they need to know. Most of the time, these stupid operators ask irrelevant questions that are of no real help to anyone. How sad of you to think that's actually helpful, I weep for victims.
I hope Erin NEVER gets out of prison and if she does, I hope by then her father isn't alive so she is left alone like she "planned". Smh. And I pray for anyone she meets because she truly has NO conscience.
I saw this story as told by Terry on I Survived. He's still adamant that his daughter wasn't the mastermind of the ordeal, although he does concede that she was involved. Though after hearing how she not only encouraged forcefully for her boyfriend to come back & carry out the plan, going as far as bringing the dog in which had originally spooked them off, but additionally had earlier asked a previous boyfriend to kill her parents, I don't see how he can't truly admit this fact to himself, even if only deep down in the back of his mind. A tidbit disclosed on I Survived was that Terry did originally awaken when he first heard the dog barking, only to assume it was nothing & fall back asleep. It's sickening to find out from this that the boyfriend & his accomplice (the 2 Charlie's) had left after this, only to b emphatically pressured to return & carry out the murders by his own daughter. As Terry explains, he came to after being unconscious for a time period & discovered the gory site of his almost beheaded wife. The main motivation for him to then make it to his neighbor's house & alert the authorities, possibly keeping him alive after being shot 11 times, was to save his daughter & 2 sons that remained in the house upstairs from where he was. Devastating to later realize that his daughter was safe alright, having snuck out before the fire was set, escaping with the other culprits of their horrendous attack planned together. Just sad, truly sad & depraved. Love for one's child is a strong emotion. After losing everything, I can somewhat understand why he would forgive his daughter & maintain a relationship with the only surviving family member he has left.
there’s an episode of “i survived” that terry is in & he explains this all in great detail. it’s so devastatingly sad. terry seems to be a wonderful man, father & husband. i just really feel for him.
That 911 operator was just so infuriating like be professional let him f****** help the person and figure out maybe you can figure out where he got shot if he went over to the body and help them
The mastermind should get equal sentence with the murderers. Too cruel. Hope the father is able to break the mental block that prevents him from seeing the evil in his daughter. He is a good man but needs to accept reality.
It absolutely breaks my heart that matthew tried his best to protect himself and his little brother. he was so brave in his last moments. It made me cry :(
Poor Terry. So much loss. I wish he'd wake up someday and stop all contact with that monster. She doesn't deserve him. RIP to his family. 😥💔 I am so happy for him that he was able to move on and have another family. It's pretty crazy to have more kids after this though. I never wanted kids in the first place, and after all these stories, I am so thankful to be kid free. I know that all kids are not psychopathic murderers.... but it just takes one.
Let’s hope she has to serve every last minute of her sentence for her father’s sake & his new family. Disgusting way to treat the parents who raised you & your two very young siblings.
Such a sad, sad case! Hard to believe anyone can be so cold, especially demanding and actually killing two young kids! Thanks for another great video EWU! You guys rock!
I love my kids. But idk if I could ever have anything to do with Erin if she was my daughter. I hope her dad realizes what a monster she is someday soon. Just awful.
Oh man... can you even begin to come to grips with the agony of this man, father and husband. To fight through an ordeal that should have taken his life so he could make sure the person responsible was brought to justice... I wonder if he wished he would have died so he wouldn't have to deal with the anguish of discovering the daughter he loved with all his heart hated him so much she killed his entire family. 💔 PAIN, PAIN, PAIN
RIP Penny, Tyler and Mathew. Imho any parent who survives something like this, will find it very hard to accept the daughter planned all this. My heart broke when Terry said I have no home to go to, when he was released from the hospital. Erin should never get out.
911 Operator: “ Sir, do you not understand that I have ask these questions or I might get scolded. Don’t worry about the man dying on your lawn, I have to ask these questions! Don’t help him, help me!!!”
Whenever you’re feeling down-and-out or sorry for yourself, think of this poor man/husband/father and remember how much worse things could be. I don’t know how he pulled through all of that, but it’s far past inspiring.
I cannot possibly judge the father, all I can do is feel sorry for him. It's good he was able to move on to a new family. Hopefully he will be able to let go of Erin one day, because she will make sure to ruin his new family, just on a whim.
Ive known this story since it happened & I absolutely despise this girl! Her dad is amazing being able to forgive her ... Hope she realizes how dear her father is & I pray she regrets her decisions every day although I find that shes unable to feel empathy bc she has tried to minimize her part in this tragedy since day 1.. She truly makes me sick
You can find this case in Killer Woman. She talks about what went down that day. When you hear her and the tone of voice she uses… you wouldn’t believe it. INSANE!
I got goosebumbs when hearing he refuses to believe that his daughter is the responsible on for the crime. He refuses because he has(had) no one left and she was the closest thing to his normality that he still had🥺
My family was heavily abusive towards me when growing up, I was forced to care for my brother full time when I myself was a child because my mother didn’t want the responsibility, I had about 30% school attendance because I also had to care for her full time and was extremely isolated from others, I was neglected, psychologically abused, constantly gaslit, was the scapegoat child who was blamed for everything whilst my brother was the golden child, my mother enabled my brothers psychological abused towards me and his physical violence (sometimes hospitalising me with concussions/having been strangled), and when I escaped as soon as I could, the abuse just changed to become more psychological, attempts to control me, attempts to isolate me from others, stealing from me, homophobia, hardcore ableism and weaponising my disabilities. Despite all of this, where all the abuse over time has given me permanent nerve damage where I’m mostly bedridden and walk with a cane, have cPTSD and PTSD, I never once considered killing the entire household, I just slowly limited contact and eventually spoke to my therapist about going full no-contact, they only tried contacting me to send homophobic and ableist abuse, to harass me, and to threaten me, so safe to say I’m never getting an apology or even recognition of their very clear abuse, I’m also okay with that fact, as I don’t want a false apology from my mother and brother, because I know they’d never actually feel sorry for their behaviour and constantly act like the victim to anyone who’ll pay them 5 seconds of attention, that my mothers “spiteful and hateful daughter” has “broken her heart”, etc etc. I struggle to live with the physical and mental affects from such a brutal childhood, yet I’ve never once considered taking such drastic actions, I might not be loved by my biological family and have come to terms with that lack of love and their abuse, that doesn’t mean I’d consider literally murdering my entire family. Like, WTAF
Similar background, add in that extremely abusive mother was raised in what is arguably a cult that her father controlled, and that cult was a super messed up version of conservative Christianity. Physical 'discipline' started at the age of 2. Everything she did was justified by God, because he'd given her authority over me and apparently he's morally perfect, and therefore above reproach, and she was basically just as much above reproach as he was. And, even as an adult, I was firmly told more than once, after getting backhanded across the face, that I "was not now nor would ever be her equal." There's a reason I walked away from that faith and will never go back. She also forced my sister and I to go to a conservative religious school because she didn't want us learning anything from the 'godless liberal' public schools. She ignored our constant complaints about being mistreated, ignored the obvious signs in my sister's behavior that she was being sexually abused by our pedophile principal, and was absolutely despicable when she was told by my 8th grade volleyball coach that I'd confessed to wanting to kill myself. Egg donor asked if I wanted therapy, I said it wouldn't do any good, because the kids at school (didn't dare put any blame on her, even though she carried the most of it) were still alive, and the problem wasn't going to go away until they were dead. For some reason, instead of being alarmed that her suicidal daughter wanted her abusive peers to die, she decided I was just trying to get attention, and continued ignoring all the signs of abuse and moral breakdown in her kids, because that was an acceptable price to pay to keep us out of public school. After that, I dreamed almost every night of the rest of my childhood and on into my 20s of fighting back whenever she'd hit me and making sure it'd be the last time she ever hit me again. If she's gone, she can't hurt me. Simplified and unethical reasoning, I know, but at the time, there was literally no other way that I'd be able to escape. I would never have followed through; she's not worth the jail time, and it'd've kept me from caring for my cats, who are far more important than she will ever be. I've also settled down since then (which probably is hard to believe with this comment), and I no longer have any desire to so much as throw a pillow at her, much less cause actual physical harm. She's not worth it. So now I just keep hoping something else will get her so my sister and I can be free. We both feel the same way, and every single one of our friends who have met her hated her from second 1. It's in her eyes: pure indoctrinated evil. Not saying that Erin didn't have some major issues beyond being in a "good Christian family" who were "involved in the church" that her dad was preacher at. (You cannot convince me that there wasn't at least some religiously-motivated psychological abuse in that house.) But with the rest of her behavior, it's obvious that is nowhere *near* her entire reason, and it's possible if it wasn't her parents (and her brothers, wtf?????), it would've been someone else later down the line. I'm just saying, don't ever dismiss the effects of religious abuse and the moral breakdown it can cause.
Something very wrong with you if you didn't consider harming people who harmed you, its called growing up and getting in touch with your inner animal. Maybe that is the very reason why you were taken advantage of in the first place, you didn't encourage the human animal and has always suffocated it, you're too nice, too naive and other human animals can sense this weakness. You'll never be a proper man if you don't learn the exact right lesson to learn from your childhood abuse.
@@007lutherking ehh. i dont really feel like hearing why you think youre more of a man than someone else... so i cant be bothered putting in any energy giving ya a real response
The dad wrote a book about the aftermath of this called, "terror by night "...which for him surely had 2 meanings...the terror of that night, and its also a biblical reference about the sudden consuming nature of evil.
I want this narrator to continue with the video's, his voice is so powerful it makes the story even more interesting. I find myself searching for videos of him narrating.
The analysis was by far superior to 90% of most “analysts” in the true crime genre on UA-cam! The voice over was beautiful done and the voice is fitting of the content being spoken about! 👍🏼👍🏼TWO THUMBS UP!!
I wish they still did some of the family exploring abandoned locations cause that's what got me into them cause it's so wholesome seeing a whole family enjoying something i love in an area im not ever going to explore much probably
This is insane.. they brought swords ⚔️ guns and burnt the house down. What the heck... I'm always so shocked how much teens can get carried away with being together.. that they'd even destroy their own family life and home?? Wtf..
I feel that Charlie seemingly having at least some remorse and the fact that he supposedly attempted to sway Erin is saddening. If true, then it's even more saddening that he couldn't stop it. However, despite all of that, I honestly can't believe what he said during that phone call. But still, the most horrific part of it all is the fact that Erin herself planned everything. Planning to kill her own family, even two young kids. Charlie saying that he disliked the thought of killing the two boys is at least somewhat less disturbing, but Erin, the SISTER, saying that she wanted them to be dead and gone is gruesome, sad, and absolutely disgusting. Going back to Charlie, I feel that Erin's plan to murder her whole family already existing before he ever got with her is sad. Him not knowing that it would eventually become a factor, and then being pulled into it in order to stay with the girl he loves. That, to me, really makes it difficult to judge. I can't believe what he said during that phone call, with all that "inevitable" shit. But what I CAN believe is that he likely didn't have any idea of what the girl really wanted until later. Erin being the one that gets parole in the future is truly shocking to me, as she was quite literally the one who planned everything from start to finish. She should be getting life in jail for ever coming up with a plan like that in the first place. Overall, insanely good documentary. These videos are honestly interesting and educational, at least to me. Looking over different cases like these is helpful in trying to understand how different people might think.
Great vid! Never heard of this story before now so great video! What a tragic case. I feel for the dad. How traumatizing. Those evil people deserve life behind bars!
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Their job is to keep the caller on the line until responders arrive, and to get as much information as possible. Try to do their job for a month and you'll be slower in criticizing them.
i remember seeing terry on an episode of “i survived”, i couldnt believe it then and i still cant. erin is a monster, heartless with no remorse, she shouldve been handed a death penalty. her denial and continued attempts of manipulation goes to show how little she gives a fk about what she did. she should never be able to walk the streets as a free person again.
This is so crazy , poor dad , the fact that she wanted not only her parents dead but her little siblings also ugh. She needs to never be out again. She’s lucky her father still in denial and probably supporting her in jail , she would’ve been dead to me too smh . Nothing came out about them being abusive to her so this is really tragic
“Contrary to his plan, murdering four people and setting a house on fire would prove to NOT be his best approach.” The narration on that was crisp. This story is truly dark and malicious.
I hope Erin is never released, the fact her father (who lost his family and nearly his own life) fights for her early release makes me feel sick. What is wrong with him? I mean they killed your wife and two innocent children for heavens sake. 😡
He possibly can't face up to the fact that his daughter actually masterminded it. He already disliked her boyfriend, so it's easier to believe that he is the one to blame. Accepting that his daughter is responsible might be too much to bear.
A parent will always love you unconditionally, he may hate what she did , but loves her ,also the only loved one he has left , but is that unconditional love , you’d have to be a parent to understand.
I don't think the dad is wrong or sick for fighting for his daughter, she's obviously shown him some kind of remorse since the events, that and she was a child herself there were three adults at least involved in the planning and actual murders there is an imbalance in power for sure right there.
Oh my god this poor father. My heart just absolutely breaks for him. To lose his entire family in such a horrific way at the hands of your DAUGHTER. This is just so, so heartbreaking. His daughter is all he has left and I’m sure that he just can’t let himself believe that his own child would do something so evil and horrific. This is just a horrible, sad case. Those poor boys. I just don’t understand what goes wrong in someone’s brain that they could do such a evil, senseless, horrific thing to your FAMILY….your baby brothers. It’s just sick. My little brothers were my whole world growing up. They were like my babies. Our parents weren’t around and I took on the roll of mama. It was my job to protect and nurture them. I just can’t wrap my head around this case 😩
Would be nice to know what the police and medics are dealing with. Father was shot. Is it safe for the emergency responders? House burning? Anyone else in home? Father was conscious so get as much info as you can.
I get it he doesn't want to believe that his sweet little girl would do something like that. But like the saying " There is no bigger fool, then one who won't want to see". I hope she doesn't get out ever!!
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I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW THE FATHER IS ON HER SIDE TO THIS DAY AND EVEN WORSE TRYING TO GET HER AN EARLY RELEASE??? I HONESTLY BELIVE THAT SHE WILL FINISH THE JOB AS SOON AS SHE MAKE IT OUT WHAT SHE DID WAS SO EVIL THOSE POOR BABYS DIDN'T DESERVE THAT! I HAVE 0 SYMPATHY FOR THE FATHER.
Erin was 16! In a couple of years she would've been of age and could've dated that punk legally without needing her parents consent. Being young who knows, if they still would've been together by then. Blood is thicker than water... How can anyone wipe their entire family out for no good reason?
The fact that she asked another (ex) boyfriend to murder her whole family for her (to which he refused and left her) seems to me that the parental consent was not her problem at all. She's just plain evil who wanted them dead, I mean she flat out requested to have the kids/her siblings killed just because she finds them annoying.
this story is almost identical to my cousins story, except she broke up with her boyfriend and he got upset and literally everything else is the same. including the little brother hiding in the closet and the killer not caring and murdering him anyways. I really wasn’t expecting this story to be so similar to my own cousins. RIP to this family and my own. absolutely heartbreaking.
@@junejourney1051 I appreciate it. I’m just so thankful that all of them, including my 5 year old cousin, experienced such love before their passing. My 12 year old cousin was literally shielding her younger brother and in his last moments he knew how much she loved him. That cousin and the stepfather barely survived but everyone else passed. My cousin has grown into an amazing woman who keeps the memory of her siblings and mother alive.
Im so glad that my boys grew up and became positive contributing members in their communities!! I sometimes think about stuff like this and how youd be completely Blindsided by your child that you held and fed and nurtured and sacrificed for! Heartbreaking
My heart hurts for Terry. The poor guy has suffered such a nightmare. Erin is truly a monster , empty of any humanity. She's just an empty human body. Those poor little kids too. How scared they must have been. As for the killers , they deserve the worst.
The first 911 caller is kinda dense to demand knowing where someone’s been shot when they have been told the “victim” is conscious, bleeding, and needs help. Just ask for the address and send help !
These stories are hard to watch, but they're even more teffifying when your personal life almost becomes a true crime story. My spouse and I just removed his 12-year-old daughter from our home. She moved in a year ago, and she began to plan my death from day one. Later, she added my son, my step-son, and her father to her kill list. She would wait for her older sibling to go to sleep and then stand over him. She was attempting to garner the courage to kill her older sibling while he slept. My step-daughter came up with ELABORATE plans to kill. For example, this is how she initially planned my death: First, she started with character assassination. She told countless lies about my character in order to isolate me from my in-laws. Then, her next step was to try and have my biological child taken from me. Her last step was to end my life. I had my in-laws calling me, and screaming at me, for the countless lies she told. It was a very stressful, depressing, time of my life. If I was not vigilant, and tune in quickly that something was off with my step-daughter, I would be dead. Her biological mother is the first person she planned to kill. However, the mother was so preoccupied with her love life that she didn't pay attention to her daughter's mental health. My step-daughter moving in with my husband and I could have saved her life as well. My husband and I placed her in a mental hospital three times within a year. My step-daughter has always been an angry kid, and she shows no remorse for any of her actions. In fact, she said that she feels good when she hurts others. During her character assassination phase of her plan against me, she treated my life like a video game. Shockingly, she gave herself points every time she saw me in pain. Her behavior is even more shocking, because she has the capacity to appear loving and kind while simultaneously planning to kill someone. Therefore, the only warning sign she may give anyone is when she is seconds from committing murder. My step-daughter is an EXTREMELY skilled liar. If I didn't collect proof of her plan, and if her plot wasn't uncovered during one of her hospitalizations, I do not want to think of what could have happened to me. She will go to any extreme to get what she wants. The day before she was removed from the home, I finally drilled down to why she hadn't killed anyone yet. The reasons were timing and her physical strength. She planned to murder me on the very day of her second hospitalization. When it comes to her strength, she was attempting to gage when she would have the strength to overpower anyone who fought back. Therefore, she was just waiting to get a little older and stronger. I wish her the best, but I will never live with her again. I do not desire to worry about anyone in my home being attacked while sleeping. You are likely wondering about the origin of her behavior. Unfortunately, it is her biological mother. Her mother is a repeat offender, con artist, skilled liar, and aggressive bully. My husband and I tried our best to get my step-daughter to change, but we can no longer risk the lives of everyone in the home. Her last hope is help from her mother's side of the family and a long-term mental health treatment facility. If she refuses to change, I will not be surprised if she eventually kills someone.
Jesus, I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that. I’m thankful that you recognized what she was planning and how her mental health was deteriorating. I’m sure it’s hard on you and the hubby, but you made the right choice separating her from your life. She could hurt you, her dad, her siblings.. yeah, no. She can chill in a hospital instead lol
Shit that is crazy. I hope you and your family stay safe and happy. As for the step daughter I hope she stays locked up either until she mentally better and not a danger or if she can't be helped locked up forever.
I swear sometimes 911 operators ask some really stupid questions and don’t listen to what people are saying. I hear exchanges like this all the time where the caller can be understood so easily but the operator doesn’t get it. Either that or they just sound super annoyed with the person calling like the one lady that mocked the lady when she was literally drowning when her car went off the road into a river. 🤯🤦♀️
She lied about being drugged (the test showed no drugs) yet the dad still believes her? Sounds like the dad has no one left from his original family so he's clinging to the only one left for some "comfort" or "nostalgia", even though she doesn't deserve it
Just the fact that the dad is so willing to overlook what the daughter did, shows why the girl turned out like she did. He's still coddling her & excusing her behavior, no matter how reprehensible. He definitely is responsible for molding her sociopathy. Blood is also on his hands.
No lie Raven is the only true crime narrator whose voice i can listen to in conjuction with Peter Thomas RIP 🙏🏾 the smoothness & clarity is so natural 💪🏾
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the fact that she was kept isolated by her pastor parents. They pulled Erin and her little brothers out of school after there was a lesbian in her 8th grade class so they chose to homeschool and wouldn’t allow their children to socialize besides church. Obviously that doesn’t mean she’s any less guilty, but it’s relevant information.
Homophobic religious parents are not something new, in fact most religious communities, be it Christians, Islam, Jewish and even Buddhist can be highly Homophobic. Most just keep it to themselves, they don't mind others are lgbt, just not their own kind. Still it has nothing to do with why their daughter is a psycho killer.
I hate it when people say, they were a family with Christian values 😒 Like that makes them better than most people. Most religious people are the biggest hypocrites.
I’m surprised that none of the kids (Erin, her bf, the other guy) showed any warning signs that their mental health was declining. I wonder if, had Erin shown signs or she did and her parents had noticed them, that this could have been avoided. Either way it’s horrendous.. I hope she never leaves jail.
I literally thought that to myself. Homeboy would have pulled that shit on me and out my house you go. From that point on he would have not been welcomed as well.
Poor terry needs to grow a set and come to realization that his daughter is deranged and deserves to be locked up for life id of never talked to her again and made it my mission to have her time in prison as tough as possible
That father has every single right not to ever communicate with Erin again. I’m guessing he’s holding onto her because his loss is so great. Poor man.
She's his only link to the family he lost.
Ive seen this before with similar situations. Its like the parents just cannot believe their child is a psychopath.. They need to read up on it & do their best to be objective. Maybe its more truth than they can handle.
@@dreamsofturtles1828 Biology - it's his genes.. Maybe... Imagine if he found out, that his wife also had been a psycho, and that Erin was the daughter of some random murderer, that his wife had had an affair with, "because her husband was such a weak nice push over".. Stranger things happen..
@@eoinoconnell185 family he lost because of her.
Yeah that's exactly the reason. There are several other cases where a child killed or had somebody else kill their entire family and a parent survived. And then that parent will fight for them in court and visit them every week in prison etc because they have nothing left.
What angers me most about this case is that she continues to lie to her father and denies her involvement. While she remains behind bars, her father is in a prison of her making.
He’s choosing to believe her bullshit (or pretending to).
has lost its meaning when the priest doesn’t have a problem with his daughter having a boyfriend. As if fornication is not a major sin. I’m sorry but Christianity is dead. The so called Christians of today are all liberals who just think they are Christians. Nobody here is bothered about why it is wrong for an unmarried girl to have sexual relationships because fornication is considered all normal now.
It’s a shame for those who call themselves Christians.
He has no option. No one else is left.
@@amitabhkumar5865 Who cares ? There's a choice. Most people would rather be alone.
@rathergrumpy unless youve been in it and its your very own child, you cant really speak on what he should or shouldnt do...its easy to speak on without experience
These videos are SO well made!
- No distracting music
- No dramatization
- Very well edited
- minimal voiceover/captions that precisely highlight important clues
- explains crucial info i.e. interrogation techniques or background info
Thank you
I LOVE this videos
It’s unfortunate they can’t like this comment or say thank you
@@Car.Freeman1981 i think they must be really busy making videos xxx
No boring details about the victims favourite colour etc.
No opinions or fake crying when talking about the crimes like the true crime creators all do. Puke
A.I
Erin should most definitely NOT be eligible for parole…..EVER!!
*whispers* I don’t think she ever will be. There’s no parole board that’s gonna let her out with her little brother on that list.
@@rebekahwolkiewicz449 Agree. Even with Terry advocating for his daughter’s release, I highly doubt any parole board would oblige. This case received so much attention, & I’m sure the public pressure to keep her locked up is very real.
I think Terry's advocating for her early release will make sure she'll never get out. It's sooo obvious that she can still manipulate him after all this and even previous attempts makes her look exactly like the psychopath she is. She'll never get out alive
I hope the father wakes up one day and sees his daughter for what she really is! The fact that she continues to manipulate him by making up other excuses shows how evil she is.
Sadly, I think refusing to believe she could've actually planned/wanted this, is the only way he can really cope with it. It may be serious denial on his part, but living with the knowledge that his own daughter tried to kill him and his entire family would be that much more unbearable for him to live with.
The parents were abusive and drove her to despise them. He's just as guilty if not more.
@@Squidlark How do you know that?
@@Frolic_Cesar It was said in the video they were a staunch Christian family. Children are hardwired to love their parents. If a child overcomes that programming it is because of abuse or a neurological defect they are born with. She was not born with a brain defect otherwise there would be a record of behavioural issues from since childhood therefore it was abuse that led to the unfortunate slaughter.
@@Squidlark Maybe you are right but didn't we learned from many other true crime documentaries and serial killer documentaries that they may have a completely normal even loving childhood home and still turn to gruesome murders? I am not arguing just curious.
I went to school with these guys. Rode the bus with Charlie and was good friends with some of the family. No one could have known these kids were capable of this. Glad to see y’all covering this story.
u for real??
It's weird when you hear a channel cover a story you knew firsthand, isn't it.
@@AmericanSpyFox Yeah my Dad was friends with the lady who had her face ripped off by that chimp, I almost never watch coverage of it, it's just so awful all the way around
Can't imagine knowing anyone involved in this case victim or assailant, pretty horrific stuff...sorry you were at all close to this op
The family was supposed to visit and sing at my parents small church The next morning.
@@ProdSmooth No, he's for fake.
I understand that it's almost impossible to know your daughter got your whole family murdered but the evidence is pretty clear so I'm really hoping the father can eventually truly look at the facts and find peace with the truth😩
oh that's the twist, I guess no need to was watch zhe video now 😂
Yeah, I fully believe the daughter got her whole family murdered, it’s actually insane how utterly evil she truly is
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@@Tekape my bad🤣😩
May the father find some sorta peace if that's possible...I don't know how he possibly can ...
May he find q way to find some Happiness and possibly meet someone and have some semblance on normalcy ..prayers many many prayers.
I don't think I'll ever understand the American "justice" system. It was clear that Erin was the mastermind as well as the master manipulator. She manipulated Charlie into killing her family when he seemed to have a lot of reservations. He said he couldn't bring himself to hurt the kids so he must of had some empathy and sense of right and wrong somewhere within him. Erin on the other hand didn't care one iota about her family. And yet SHE has a chance at parole but Charlie has to die in prison? What the fuck is with that?
Vagina priviledge! You may deny it but it exists...
She is a juvenile, it is illegal to give a minor a life without parole sentence since it is deemed unconstitutional (Miller v Alabama). Charlie was 18 so the justice system could sentence him full extent
@@aks9840 *Minor privileges. She was a 16 year old. The justice system is prohibited from giving minors "life without parole" sentence due to Miller v Alabama. This is why she is given 2 consecutive life sentence plus more to try to equalize "life without parole." Trust, they probably wanted to give her that sentence but they legally could not do it
@@Griza_bella You're actually wrong about that. In regard to "Miller v Alabama" the court determined that mandatory life sentences without parole for juveniles who commit homicide was unconstitutional, thus illegal. However, juveniles may still be sentenced to discretionary life without parole for homicide cases but only after the sentencing court has determined, after a full hearing, that the youth is permanently incorrigible and incapable of rehabilitation. And knowing the degree of racism that exists in Alabama, I can imagine that quite a number of (black) juveniles would be found "incapable of rehabilitation" and sent to prison and forgotten. Also, in other states, the SCOTUS has only banned life without the possibility of parole for juveniles in non-homicide cases. If a juvenile has been charged with a homicide and found guilty, they can still spend the rest of their lives in prison. And just for clarity, the United States is the only country in the world that allows juveniles to be sentenced to life without parole even though it's condemned by international law. But of course it is.
Ikr?
So I'm thinking the 911 operator was relatively new; "Is he conscious?" " Yes." " Is he breathing?" I'm like...umm..Well he's conscious so I certainly hope so. Then insisting the caller stay on the line answering questions about the bleeding instead of saying something like put the phone down, don't hang up, go over to him and render any assistance you can to slow the bleeding, if possible come back to the phone. She must have been going off her question sheets thinking she'd needed to get it completely filled out.
Definitely sounded like she was just running through her check sheet without thinking about what was really happening on the other end of the line. Asking 101 questions, while someone is dying and a house is burning, like they have all the time in the world.
I thought the same!
Poor guy was just trying to help
You know that's her job right? Handling emergency calls means you don't let them hang up you get as much information as you can, and while taking it she's sending it too three different services in this case police fire and ambulance while trying to stay on script and keep the caller safe. It's a high stakes job you can't be over emotional or panic.
@@nadia-tp1xv I’ve also seen on crime shows that the 911 call is key to solving some crimes and they try to get info while emotions are high. Operator did sound less than smooth, maybe new
@@nadia-tp1xv
I believe that's the point they were making. It's a very important job that isn't for everyone. A 911 dispatch screw up costs lives like that kid that got crushed to death trying to get his sports equipment out of the vehicle. His death, although an accident, is on that dispatcher.
This is truly horrific. It’s bad enough when kids kill their parents because they want to be with someone who their parents disapprove of, but to also kill her younger brothers who obviously had nothing to do with that decision is just terrible. I’m glad the dad survived but I’m so sad for him having the rest of his immediate family gone except the one who took their lives 😞
Edit: oh ok, I wrote this before getting to the last part. Glad the dad has more kids and got remarried, although of course I’m sure they can’t replace his first wife and two sons.
Man…… Spoiler Alert much?! Lol! You are totally correct tho.
@@PhantomPhae oops, sorry haha!
@@juliannefost6351 ayy no problem man. Dont sweat it!! The spoiler was worth it cause wtf….. how u gonna almost die from ur teen asking their boyfriend to kill u, and then after almost dying and having ur kid convicted for murder/attempt murder, u refuse to believe theyd do that only cause they from ur balls/uterus… wack. If i had any kids and they tried to kill me or had a s-o try to off me id LITERALLY AND UNAPOLOGETICALLY fucking put them up for adoption
This also happened in india a girl killed her whole family with her boyfriend even her elder brother's three months old child..... Her boyfriend said that she herself killed the poor child...... After killing the whole family...... It occurred in haryana, india.....
If she doesn't kill her brothers her brothers will eventually know what happened to their parents and kill her or just get justice 🤷
What’s sad is she used her manipulative tactics to manipulate her own father/victim into thinking that she’s not capable of something she tried to have carried out more than once..she knew she was going to have children murdered there is no rehabilitating someone like that. Her dad should not want her to be released because then anyone around her is in danger of what she is clearly capable of.
Totally agree- dad wanting her to be released early is not considering the good of society. But it’s understandable that he needs to believe he didn’t raise a complete monster.
@@looksirdroids9134 oh I forgot everyone who is raised Christian does this 🥴 if Christianity was the only factor there would be a lot more familial annihilation.
I'll never ever understand how people can kill kids. All murder is awful but kids? I hope the worst comes to her.
Exactly!!!
There's no difference in killing kids or adults
Obviously it is "God's will" ....just like tornados.
@@DemnRaig80 there is a difference, children are completely innocent.
@@TheWolfsnack found the cringe atheist. No one said anything about being Gods will. You did
The denial parents have when their "sweet little angel" gets exposed as a demon.
I grew up and was from Alba, most of the people who knew these kids were from the next town over Emory. I was friends with the family’s preacher (and his children) for a time. This crime rippled and affected so many people. Terry came to our school (not the school Erin attended) and he told his story and it was gut wrenching to hear from a man who was so broken from his grievous loss. The love this father feels for his daughter is hard to fathom. However this person who planned and aided in what was Terry’s nightmare; is the only member of his family left.
My family owns pay n save in Alba! I remember when this happened. My mom ended up in the same prison as her(but my mom was in the trustees camp). Shit is crazy!
Of all the things they didn't happen, this didn't happen the most.
I lived in Alba up until last week. It's fucking bonkers that they're covering a case I was so close to.
I’m in Kilgore! I remember this happening 😳
And I knew their neighbor 🙄
Such a sad stgory, I feel so sad for Terry. He clings on to any possibility that his daughters wasnt involved. He is a man with a broken heart but I'm glad he has found a way to keep living his life.
This is incredibly sad. I feel so sorry for the children. How can you murder two little children? Shot one in the face and stabbed one with swords?
Tf.
An unnamed hero of this is Matthew who at least tried to fight back charlie.
you answered your own question, you shoot one in the face and kill the other with a sword.
I heard about this case in a documentary on Netflix, the daughter is so obviously guilty and it's heartbreaking the father stays faithful to her, knowing probably deep down that his own flesh and blood orchestrated the murder of his whole family.
Same here..watched the story too..
Whats the title?
@@midnightlarc2193 pierce morgan... cant remember the name something like I am a murderer or something
imagine she gets out and tries to murder him again
Ahhh I was wondering why I already heard about this case! Netflix!
That poor man. Losing his family, listening helplessly as they were slaughtered to find out it was his own daughters' doing. 😭😭 Best wishes to him ❤️
Yeah she needs to stay her butt in jail. I’m not sure dad is really understanding the gravity of the fact his entire family was slaughtered under her direction. Murder is one of the worst things you can do, but she orchestrated the murder of her 4 family members. That’s overkill. If she gets out I don’t doubt she’ll remain in the system, eventually leading to someone else getting harmed or murdered. Her dad is all she has, so it makes complete sense why she would cling to him n feed him bits of hope that don’t cooperate with the evidence like at all. What a tragedy.
Why so mean?
@@domoetker3967 i apologize that my assertiveness came off as mean to you.
He’s the last link to the outside world that she’s able to try to get her little grimy manipulative fingers on. Gross. (Mine comment is probably a little more ‘mean’ 😉)
Mean? Think you were trolled. My response would have been along the lines of.
And her manipulation of men around her and have her family slaughtered plus family dog. Isn't mean???
Your post was spot on... 😉
@@tessaducek5601 yes mean... Are you trying to establish that you can read? It's written right there. Why question it?
That poor family. This is so sad. People are crazy, and evil. Take care everyone, you can't trust anyone, anymore. How could you do this to these people? You're not just a sociopath, your a physopath girl. This was the people that loved you the most. What a cruel and cold-hearted girl you are. Thanks, for this upload. Great work.❤️🌹
"Yeah we know hes dying sir, just a few questions first okay"
Sometimes I hate these emergency operators
That's what they are literally trained to do - keep the caller on the line.
@@eoinoconnell185 you can put the phone on speaker to assist the victim. Someone should put pressure on the wound immediately to get the bleeding under control.
@@eoinoconnell185 that isn't helpful, especially in cases where someone is being hunted down by another person. I'd personally throw them the address, a run down of the situation, and hang up. That's all they need to know. Most of the time, these stupid operators ask irrelevant questions that are of no real help to anyone. How sad of you to think that's actually helpful, I weep for victims.
That was a bold move cotton, how'd that work out for ya
They need to extract as much information as they need to help the police's investigation. Just in case the victim dies
The fact that the father still goes and visits and fights for her release is crazy to me.
I hope Erin NEVER gets out of prison and if she does, I hope by then her father isn't alive so she is left alone like she "planned". Smh. And I pray for anyone she meets because she truly has NO conscience.
I saw this story as told by Terry on I Survived. He's still adamant that his daughter wasn't the mastermind of the ordeal, although he does concede that she was involved. Though after hearing how she not only encouraged forcefully for her boyfriend to come back & carry out the plan, going as far as bringing the dog in which had originally spooked them off, but additionally had earlier asked a previous boyfriend to kill her parents, I don't see how he can't truly admit this fact to himself, even if only deep down in the back of his mind. A tidbit disclosed on I Survived was that Terry did originally awaken when he first heard the dog barking, only to assume it was nothing & fall back asleep. It's sickening to find out from this that the boyfriend & his accomplice (the 2 Charlie's) had left after this, only to b emphatically pressured to return & carry out the murders by his own daughter. As Terry explains, he came to after being unconscious for a time period & discovered the gory site of his almost beheaded wife. The main motivation for him to then make it to his neighbor's house & alert the authorities, possibly keeping him alive after being shot 11 times, was to save his daughter & 2 sons that remained in the house upstairs from where he was. Devastating to later realize that his daughter was safe alright, having snuck out before the fire was set, escaping with the other culprits of their horrendous attack planned together.
Just sad, truly sad & depraved. Love for one's child is a strong emotion. After losing everything, I can somewhat understand why he would forgive his daughter & maintain a relationship with the only surviving family member he has left.
Also, he's a man of Faith, so he chose to cleave to that and forgive her. It probably saves him from losing his mind, poor man.
This is devistating. I have an 8 year old son. My heart is with Terry.
there’s an episode of “i survived” that terry is in & he explains this all in great detail. it’s so devastatingly sad. terry seems to be a wonderful man, father & husband. i just really feel for him.
That 911 operator was just so infuriating like be professional let him f****** help the person and figure out maybe you can figure out where he got shot if he went over to the body and help them
How could someone get so lost and evil? At my worst growing up I could never even imagine something so evil. Makes me nauseous.
Quite scary...
The mastermind should get equal sentence with the murderers. Too cruel. Hope the father is able to break the mental block that prevents him from seeing the evil in his daughter. He is a good man but needs to accept reality.
It absolutely breaks my heart that matthew tried his best to protect himself and his little brother. he was so brave in his last moments. It made me cry :(
Poor Terry. So much loss. I wish he'd wake up someday and stop all contact with that monster. She doesn't deserve him. RIP to his family. 😥💔
I am so happy for him that he was able to move on and have another family. It's pretty crazy to have more kids after this though.
I never wanted kids in the first place, and after all these stories, I am so thankful to be kid free. I know that all kids are not psychopathic murderers.... but it just takes one.
Let’s hope she has to serve every last minute of her sentence for her father’s sake & his new family. Disgusting way to treat the parents who raised you & your two very young siblings.
Such a sad, sad case! Hard to believe anyone can be so cold, especially demanding and actually killing two young kids! Thanks for another great video EWU! You guys rock!
Imagine telling a guy that just lost his family and had his house burned down that he can go home? 💀
I love my kids. But idk if I could ever have anything to do with Erin if she was my daughter. I hope her dad realizes what a monster she is someday soon. Just awful.
Oh man... can you even begin to come to grips with the agony of this man, father and husband. To fight through an ordeal that should have taken his life so he could make sure the person responsible was brought to justice... I wonder if he wished he would have died so he wouldn't have to deal with the anguish of discovering the daughter he loved with all his heart hated him so much she killed his entire family. 💔 PAIN, PAIN, PAIN
I've heard in another video about this case he has contemplated suicide many times. One can only imagine...
RIP Penny, Tyler and Mathew. Imho any parent who survives something like this, will find it very hard to accept the daughter planned all this. My heart broke when Terry said I have no home to go to, when he was released from the hospital. Erin should never get out.
911 Operator: “ Sir, do you not understand that I have ask these questions or I might get scolded. Don’t worry about the man dying on your lawn, I have to ask these questions! Don’t help him, help me!!!”
THANK YOU. Sent this to a friend who has done dispatch for 17 years. He was annoyed at her questions while Mr. Gaston was trying to help his friend!
It wss so irritating and frustrating to hear , because he already told her the most important info that she needs 😢
I can't believe her father still visits her
"christian family values," no doubt
Why can't you?
Trauma bond either he believes she wasn’t responsible and has a daughter or accepted the truth and have no one
@@DemnRaig80 because she literally murdered his wife and kids?
I almost feel like he's hoping she would eventually tell the truth that he knows deep down inside.
in cases like this 'an eye for an eye' justice should be mandatory.
Agreed 100%
Whenever you’re feeling down-and-out or sorry for yourself, think of this poor man/husband/father and remember how much worse things could be. I don’t know how he pulled through all of that, but it’s far past inspiring.
I cannot possibly judge the father, all I can do is feel sorry for him. It's good he was able to move on to a new family. Hopefully he will be able to let go of Erin one day, because she will make sure to ruin his new family, just on a whim.
Ive known this story since it happened & I absolutely despise this girl! Her dad is amazing being able to forgive her ... Hope she realizes how dear her father is & I pray she regrets her decisions every day although I find that shes unable to feel empathy bc she has tried to minimize her part in this tragedy since day 1.. She truly makes me sick
She does not deserve to be forgiven nor does she deserve to ever see the light of day agaun she is a horrid evil women.
She regrets being caught.
You can find this case in Killer Woman. She talks about what went down that day. When you hear her and the tone of voice she uses… you wouldn’t believe it. INSANE!
What episode
@@MeandmyLife24my bad, the show’s name is Killer Woman. I got it mixed up, sorry about that.
I got goosebumbs when hearing he refuses to believe that his daughter is the responsible on for the crime. He refuses because he has(had) no one left and she was the closest thing to his normality that he still had🥺
My family was heavily abusive towards me when growing up, I was forced to care for my brother full time when I myself was a child because my mother didn’t want the responsibility, I had about 30% school attendance because I also had to care for her full time and was extremely isolated from others, I was neglected, psychologically abused, constantly gaslit, was the scapegoat child who was blamed for everything whilst my brother was the golden child, my mother enabled my brothers psychological abused towards me and his physical violence (sometimes hospitalising me with concussions/having been strangled), and when I escaped as soon as I could, the abuse just changed to become more psychological, attempts to control me, attempts to isolate me from others, stealing from me, homophobia, hardcore ableism and weaponising my disabilities.
Despite all of this, where all the abuse over time has given me permanent nerve damage where I’m mostly bedridden and walk with a cane, have cPTSD and PTSD, I never once considered killing the entire household, I just slowly limited contact and eventually spoke to my therapist about going full no-contact, they only tried contacting me to send homophobic and ableist abuse, to harass me, and to threaten me, so safe to say I’m never getting an apology or even recognition of their very clear abuse, I’m also okay with that fact, as I don’t want a false apology from my mother and brother, because I know they’d never actually feel sorry for their behaviour and constantly act like the victim to anyone who’ll pay them 5 seconds of attention, that my mothers “spiteful and hateful daughter” has “broken her heart”, etc etc.
I struggle to live with the physical and mental affects from such a brutal childhood, yet I’ve never once considered taking such drastic actions, I might not be loved by my biological family and have come to terms with that lack of love and their abuse, that doesn’t mean I’d consider literally murdering my entire family. Like, WTAF
Similar background, add in that extremely abusive mother was raised in what is arguably a cult that her father controlled, and that cult was a super messed up version of conservative Christianity. Physical 'discipline' started at the age of 2. Everything she did was justified by God, because he'd given her authority over me and apparently he's morally perfect, and therefore above reproach, and she was basically just as much above reproach as he was. And, even as an adult, I was firmly told more than once, after getting backhanded across the face, that I "was not now nor would ever be her equal."
There's a reason I walked away from that faith and will never go back.
She also forced my sister and I to go to a conservative religious school because she didn't want us learning anything from the 'godless liberal' public schools. She ignored our constant complaints about being mistreated, ignored the obvious signs in my sister's behavior that she was being sexually abused by our pedophile principal, and was absolutely despicable when she was told by my 8th grade volleyball coach that I'd confessed to wanting to kill myself. Egg donor asked if I wanted therapy, I said it wouldn't do any good, because the kids at school (didn't dare put any blame on her, even though she carried the most of it) were still alive, and the problem wasn't going to go away until they were dead.
For some reason, instead of being alarmed that her suicidal daughter wanted her abusive peers to die, she decided I was just trying to get attention, and continued ignoring all the signs of abuse and moral breakdown in her kids, because that was an acceptable price to pay to keep us out of public school.
After that, I dreamed almost every night of the rest of my childhood and on into my 20s of fighting back whenever she'd hit me and making sure it'd be the last time she ever hit me again. If she's gone, she can't hurt me. Simplified and unethical reasoning, I know, but at the time, there was literally no other way that I'd be able to escape.
I would never have followed through; she's not worth the jail time, and it'd've kept me from caring for my cats, who are far more important than she will ever be. I've also settled down since then (which probably is hard to believe with this comment), and I no longer have any desire to so much as throw a pillow at her, much less cause actual physical harm. She's not worth it. So now I just keep hoping something else will get her so my sister and I can be free. We both feel the same way, and every single one of our friends who have met her hated her from second 1. It's in her eyes: pure indoctrinated evil.
Not saying that Erin didn't have some major issues beyond being in a "good Christian family" who were "involved in the church" that her dad was preacher at. (You cannot convince me that there wasn't at least some religiously-motivated psychological abuse in that house.) But with the rest of her behavior, it's obvious that is nowhere *near* her entire reason, and it's possible if it wasn't her parents (and her brothers, wtf?????), it would've been someone else later down the line. I'm just saying, don't ever dismiss the effects of religious abuse and the moral breakdown it can cause.
Something very wrong with you if you didn't consider harming people who harmed you, its called growing up and getting in touch with your inner animal. Maybe that is the very reason why you were taken advantage of in the first place, you didn't encourage the human animal and has always suffocated it, you're too nice, too naive and other human animals can sense this weakness.
You'll never be a proper man if you don't learn the exact right lesson to learn from your childhood abuse.
@@007lutherking Id say you are truly the one theres something wrong with.
@@bm-ww8kb that's a conclusion.. now present your argument..
@@007lutherking ehh. i dont really feel like hearing why you think youre more of a man than someone else... so i cant be bothered putting in any energy giving ya a real response
The dad wrote a book about the aftermath of this called, "terror by night "...which for him surely had 2 meanings...the terror of that night, and its also a biblical reference about the sudden consuming nature of evil.
That’s deep. Thanks for sharing.
I want this narrator to continue with the video's, his voice is so powerful it makes the story even more interesting. I find myself searching for videos of him narrating.
the story tellers voice is very suspending (love hearing his stories), you can hear suspence & mystery in his voice. haha
Yes, great story telling voice 👍
Yes I love his voice if he ain't telling the stories I won't listen to it lol
@@christopherreeves3264 I know what you mean, haha. 👍😊
He has legit the perfect voice for stuff like this
@@dchange9898 Yes, I agree 👍 💯
The analysis was by far superior to 90% of most “analysts” in the true crime genre on UA-cam! The voice over was beautiful done and the voice is fitting of the content being spoken about! 👍🏼👍🏼TWO THUMBS UP!!
This has quickly become one of my favourite channels!
I wish they still did some of the family exploring abandoned locations cause that's what got me into them cause it's so wholesome seeing a whole family enjoying something i love in an area im not ever going to explore much probably
This is insane.. they brought swords ⚔️ guns and burnt the house down. What the heck... I'm always so shocked how much teens can get carried away with being together.. that they'd even destroy their own family life and home?? Wtf..
Another amazing and informative video thanks Raven and EWU. I'm always look forward to the next video,
I feel so bad that Erin's dad is in such denial even tho all the evidence shows she wanted her family dead.
This channel is investigative storytelling at its best!! Keep up the good work guy.. 👍🏼
I feel that Charlie seemingly having at least some remorse and the fact that he supposedly attempted to sway Erin is saddening. If true, then it's even more saddening that he couldn't stop it.
However, despite all of that, I honestly can't believe what he said during that phone call.
But still, the most horrific part of it all is the fact that Erin herself planned everything. Planning to kill her own family, even two young kids. Charlie saying that he disliked the thought of killing the two boys is at least somewhat less disturbing, but Erin, the SISTER, saying that she wanted them to be dead and gone is gruesome, sad, and absolutely disgusting.
Going back to Charlie, I feel that Erin's plan to murder her whole family already existing before he ever got with her is sad. Him not knowing that it would eventually become a factor, and then being pulled into it in order to stay with the girl he loves. That, to me, really makes it difficult to judge. I can't believe what he said during that phone call, with all that "inevitable" shit. But what I CAN believe is that he likely didn't have any idea of what the girl really wanted until later.
Erin being the one that gets parole in the future is truly shocking to me, as she was quite literally the one who planned everything from start to finish. She should be getting life in jail for ever coming up with a plan like that in the first place.
Overall, insanely good documentary. These videos are honestly interesting and educational, at least to me. Looking over different cases like these is helpful in trying to understand how different people might think.
Great vid! Never heard of this story before now so great video! What a tragic case. I feel for the dad. How traumatizing.
Those evil people deserve life behind bars!
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Thank you for another excellent video. I normally never comment on UA-cam, but the quality of your production is superb, so I want to be sure that the algorithm favors your content.
it’s honestly shocking how poorly trained some 911 call handlers are. not the worst i’ve heard but definitely not the best either
Their job is to keep the caller on the line until responders arrive, and to get as much information as possible. Try to do their job for a month and you'll be slower in criticizing them.
i remember seeing terry on an episode of “i survived”, i couldnt believe it then and i still cant. erin is a monster, heartless with no remorse, she shouldve been handed a death penalty. her denial and continued attempts of manipulation goes to show how little she gives a fk about what she did. she should never be able to walk the streets as a free person again.
This is so crazy , poor dad , the fact that she wanted not only her parents dead but her little siblings also ugh. She needs to never be out again. She’s lucky her father still in denial and probably supporting her in jail , she would’ve been dead to me too smh . Nothing came out about them being abusive to her so this is really tragic
Awesome story told by a very professional sounding narrator with the perfect voice tone for narration.
“Contrary to his plan, murdering four people and setting a house on fire would prove to NOT be his best approach.” The narration on that was crisp.
This story is truly dark and malicious.
I hope Erin is never released, the fact her father (who lost his family and nearly his own life) fights for her early release makes me feel sick. What is wrong with him?
I mean they killed your wife and two innocent children for heavens sake. 😡
He possibly can't face up to the fact that his daughter actually masterminded it. He already disliked her boyfriend, so it's easier to believe that he is the one to blame. Accepting that his daughter is responsible might be too much to bear.
A parent will always love you unconditionally, he may hate what she did , but loves her ,also the only loved one he has left , but is that unconditional love , you’d have to be a parent to understand.
And they didn't just shoot them and end it quick, they stabbed those little boys to death with gd swords!!! Vile and evil
Having innocent heart is his wrong.
I don't think the dad is wrong or sick for fighting for his daughter, she's obviously shown him some kind of remorse since the events, that and she was a child herself there were three adults at least involved in the planning and actual murders there is an imbalance in power for sure right there.
This gotta be one of the most evil crimes I’ve ever heard of
Oh my god this poor father. My heart just absolutely breaks for him. To lose his entire family in such a horrific way at the hands of your DAUGHTER. This is just so, so heartbreaking. His daughter is all he has left and I’m sure that he just can’t let himself believe that his own child would do something so evil and horrific. This is just a horrible, sad case. Those poor boys. I just don’t understand what goes wrong in someone’s brain that they could do such a evil, senseless, horrific thing to your FAMILY….your baby brothers. It’s just sick. My little brothers were my whole world growing up. They were like my babies. Our parents weren’t around and I took on the roll of mama. It was my job to protect and nurture them. I just can’t wrap my head around this case 😩
Is it a hiring requirement for 911 operators to be completely disrespectful, stupid, unhelpful, and hard of hearing?
Would be nice to know what the police and medics are dealing with. Father was shot. Is it safe for the emergency responders? House burning? Anyone else in home? Father was conscious so get as much info as you can.
Then do it better
I get it he doesn't want to believe that his sweet little girl would do something like that. But like the saying " There is no bigger fool, then one who won't want to see". I hope she doesn't get out ever!!
If she does she could kill his new family
This is insane 😳 👏 well done as usual Ewu Crew
You should really cover the case of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell.
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I been hooked on these videos you make been watching about 2 weeks ...everything is very high quality.. the narrating is perfect with that voice.. really great videos spine tingling straight to the point vids . Thanks for making more new videos frequently 😊
Mind blowing as always!!
Is he conscious? Is he breathing? Is he awake? Who trains these operators?😂😂😂
😱 wow what a shocker, may penny and the 2 boy's rest in peace, 🙏 another great video thanks raven 🖤
This guy came and spoke at my school in east Texas and told his story that's crazy about a decade ago
Another great story read by the best. Thank you ewu ❤
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW THE FATHER IS ON HER SIDE TO THIS DAY AND EVEN WORSE TRYING TO GET HER AN EARLY RELEASE??? I HONESTLY BELIVE THAT SHE WILL FINISH THE JOB AS SOON AS SHE MAKE IT OUT WHAT SHE DID WAS SO EVIL THOSE POOR BABYS DIDN'T DESERVE THAT! I HAVE 0 SYMPATHY FOR THE FATHER.
Erin was 16! In a couple of years she would've been of age and could've dated that punk legally without needing her parents consent. Being young who knows, if they still would've been together by then. Blood is thicker than water... How can anyone wipe their entire family out for no good reason?
The fact that she asked another (ex) boyfriend to murder her whole family for her (to which he refused and left her) seems to me that the parental consent was not her problem at all. She's just plain evil who wanted them dead, I mean she flat out requested to have the kids/her siblings killed just because she finds them annoying.
this story is almost identical to my cousins story, except she broke up with her boyfriend and he got upset and literally everything else is the same. including the little brother hiding in the closet and the killer not caring and murdering him anyways. I really wasn’t expecting this story to be so similar to my own cousins. RIP to this family and my own. absolutely heartbreaking.
The family was supposed to visit and sing at the small church my parents went to the next morning..
I’m sorry for your loss.
@@janetbettis9447 liar
@@junejourney1051 I appreciate it. I’m just so thankful that all of them, including my 5 year old cousin, experienced such love before their passing. My 12 year old cousin was literally shielding her younger brother and in his last moments he knew how much she loved him. That cousin and the stepfather barely survived but everyone else passed. My cousin has grown into an amazing woman who keeps the memory of her siblings and mother alive.
@@biancham I’m glad she became an amazing woman. God bless you and your family 🤍🫀 .
I love my 15 year old daughter, but if she ever did something like this, I would never contact her again ever.
Im so glad that my boys grew up and became positive contributing members in their communities!! I sometimes think about stuff like this and how youd be completely Blindsided by your child that you held and fed and nurtured and sacrificed for! Heartbreaking
My heart hurts for Terry. The poor guy has suffered such a nightmare. Erin is truly a monster , empty of any humanity. She's just an empty human body. Those poor little kids too. How scared they must have been. As for the killers , they deserve the worst.
The first 911 caller is kinda dense to demand knowing where someone’s been shot when they have been told the “victim” is conscious, bleeding, and needs help. Just ask for the address and send help !
These stories are hard to watch, but they're even more teffifying when your personal life almost becomes a true crime story.
My spouse and I just removed his 12-year-old daughter from our home. She moved in a year ago, and she began to plan my death from day one. Later, she added my son, my step-son, and her father to her kill list. She would wait for her older sibling to go to sleep and then stand over him. She was attempting to garner the courage to kill her older sibling while he slept.
My step-daughter came up with ELABORATE plans to kill. For example, this is how she initially planned my death: First, she started with character assassination. She told countless lies about my character in order to isolate me from my in-laws. Then, her next step was to try and have my biological child taken from me. Her last step was to end my life. I had my in-laws calling me, and screaming at me, for the countless lies she told. It was a very stressful, depressing, time of my life.
If I was not vigilant, and tune in quickly that something was off with my step-daughter, I would be dead. Her biological mother is the first person she planned to kill. However, the mother was so preoccupied with her love life that she didn't pay attention to her daughter's mental health. My step-daughter moving in with my husband and I could have saved her life as well.
My husband and I placed her in a mental hospital three times within a year. My step-daughter has always been an angry kid, and she shows no remorse for any of her actions. In fact, she said that she feels good when she hurts others. During her character assassination phase of her plan against me, she treated my life like a video game. Shockingly, she gave herself points every time she saw me in pain. Her behavior is even more shocking, because she has the capacity to appear loving and kind while simultaneously planning to kill someone. Therefore, the only warning sign she may give anyone is when she is seconds from committing murder.
My step-daughter is an EXTREMELY skilled liar. If I didn't collect proof of her plan, and if her plot wasn't uncovered during one of her hospitalizations, I do not want to think of what could have happened to me. She will go to any extreme to get what she wants.
The day before she was removed from the home, I finally drilled down to why she hadn't killed anyone yet. The reasons were timing and her physical strength. She planned to murder me on the very day of her second hospitalization. When it comes to her strength, she was attempting to gage when she would have the strength to overpower anyone who fought back. Therefore, she was just waiting to get a little older and stronger.
I wish her the best, but I will never live with her again. I do not desire to worry about anyone in my home being attacked while sleeping.
You are likely wondering about the origin of her behavior. Unfortunately, it is her biological mother. Her mother is a repeat offender, con artist, skilled liar, and aggressive bully. My husband and I tried our best to get my step-daughter to change, but we can no longer risk the lives of everyone in the home.
Her last hope is help from her mother's side of the family and a long-term mental health treatment facility. If she refuses to change, I will not be surprised if she eventually kills someone.
Jesus, I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with that. I’m thankful that you recognized what she was planning and how her mental health was deteriorating. I’m sure it’s hard on you and the hubby, but you made the right choice separating her from your life. She could hurt you, her dad, her siblings.. yeah, no. She can chill in a hospital instead lol
Sell her to the Taliban as a reward bride for one of their soldiers.
I'm sure he'll set her ass straight.
Geez dude I'm so sorry you and your family had to go through that
Shit that is crazy. I hope you and your family stay safe and happy. As for the step daughter I hope she stays locked up either until she mentally better and not a danger or if she can't be helped locked up forever.
NEVER allow her to come back. I dont think these kinds of people can change.
Your voice is perfection.
I swear sometimes 911 operators ask some really stupid questions and don’t listen to what people are saying. I hear exchanges like this all the time where the caller can be understood so easily but the operator doesn’t get it. Either that or they just sound super annoyed with the person calling like the one lady that mocked the lady when she was literally drowning when her car went off the road into a river. 🤯🤦♀️
She lied about being drugged (the test showed no drugs) yet the dad still believes her? Sounds like the dad has no one left from his original family so he's clinging to the only one left for some "comfort" or "nostalgia", even though she doesn't deserve it
Just the fact that the dad is so willing to overlook what the daughter did, shows why the girl turned out like she did.
He's still coddling her & excusing her behavior, no matter how reprehensible. He definitely is responsible for molding her sociopathy. Blood is also on his hands.
No lie Raven is the only true crime narrator whose voice i can listen to in conjuction with Peter Thomas RIP 🙏🏾 the smoothness & clarity is so natural 💪🏾
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the fact that she was kept isolated by her pastor parents. They pulled Erin and her little brothers out of school after there was a lesbian in her 8th grade class so they chose to homeschool and wouldn’t allow their children to socialize besides church. Obviously that doesn’t mean she’s any less guilty, but it’s relevant information.
Homophobic religious parents are not something new, in fact most religious communities, be it Christians, Islam, Jewish and even Buddhist can be highly Homophobic. Most just keep it to themselves, they don't mind others are lgbt, just not their own kind. Still it has nothing to do with why their daughter is a psycho killer.
I hate it when people say, they were a family with Christian values 😒
Like that makes them better than most people. Most religious people are the biggest hypocrites.
Yes, agree 100%
Probably one of the most evil teenage act I ever heard. It’s up there with the beaver brothers in Oklahoma
"I've got a man that's been shot!" "It seemed like a relatively normal evening in Alba Texas" Damn! That says a lot!
I’m surprised that none of the kids (Erin, her bf, the other guy) showed any warning signs that their mental health was declining. I wonder if, had Erin shown signs or she did and her parents had noticed them, that this could have been avoided. Either way it’s horrendous.. I hope she never leaves jail.
I remember seeing Erin Caffey’s interview on killer women with Piers Morgan. Her poor dad. He’s still in denial about what she did🥺🥺
She's ice cold. No remorse. She orchestrated the whole thing.
Matthew’s a hero. Kid was willing to fight off his attackers to save his brother, dying in the process.
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Always so beautifully done Your voice always makes it SO MUCH BETTER. Much love your Russian friends
"And you are?" Excuse me? Nu-uh get out of my house.
I literally thought that to myself. Homeboy would have pulled that shit on me and out my house you go. From that point on he would have not been welcomed as well.
Poor terry needs to grow a set and come to realization that his daughter is deranged and deserves to be locked up for life id of never talked to her again and made it my mission to have her time in prison as tough as possible