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Love the videos man, been watching for a while and you're a big inspiration for how I play Magic. You play so calmly and evaluate your options, explaining your thought process as you go. Thanks for being an amazing content creator!
Totally true, I'd like to play with that patience, but it might be easier when you have 150 IQ and good decks 😂😂😂 I really like playing with ratadrabick but it's so annoying 😭😭
I've frequently found myself exerting Hope Tender and then cycling Vizier to untap the Hope Tender so it can exert again on the same turn, which generates an absolutely silly amount of mana. For best-of-3, Pioneer Lotus Field decks usually have Dragonlord Dromoka in the sideboard to help against counterspell decks. Dromoka isn't on Arena, so I've been putting Myrel in that spot instead. You should see control opponents squirm when you cast Myrel after they've boarded out all their creature removal for Dovin's Vetoes.
I'm usually not a fan of combo decks, but this one is so interesting, being my first time seeing a Lotus Field deck. I especially love the simplicity of a single land that "just" makes 2 extra mana becoming the centerpiece of the deck and single-handedly breaking the normal rules of the game, similar to Nykthos but somehow more elegant.
The hardest concept for me to grasp when learning Magic was that mana and card advantage are the goal, not damage. This combo would have gone a long way to illustrating that. Great video as always LVD your explanations make watching a repeated combo interesting all the way through
Watching you combo off is so great. You barely ever make mistakes and having your comprehensive narration helps me understand the strategies and choices you make. Keep it up!
I have no idea how to play magic beyond the prebuilt decks me and a few friends shared back in the day. Recently gained an interest in arena again after the card game itch came back, this is wild!
At first I thought that the deck is a little one-sided and vulnerable, but the way you pilot the deck with your limitless expertise made the video incredibly fun to watch! Different options you considered depending on the match-up and the situation at hand really made the deck shine!
26:35 That Creativity Control deck was very cool and piloted quite well. Izzet control with Gx combo finishers? What a fun game to watch even on the losing end!
I do appreciate a bonkers combo deck that just says "I cast Approach, draw to it, and win the game once I pop off" rather than needing an obscene flurry of triggers to resolve. Opponents don't need to sit and watch in the hopes that you fizzle, but if they choose to watch, it isn't a miserable mess of priority interactions.
Another one you can do for ultimatum is get both omniscience and one with the multiverse plus your tutor spell to get guaranteed omniscience It helps when you have your combo pieces in your hand already
I suppose you could use defabricate and discontinuity in this deck to get around the sac triggers on Arena, which is about as many copies you would need to have some consitency with the trick so extra fields aren’t dead in hand.
What about Fae of Wishes? Is it legal in the format? I got a pioneer precon lotus field combo deck just to have a deck to play and I’ve enjoyed Fae of Woshes going to get Omniscience from the board and other stuff. Hidden Strings needs to be released asap. Shouldn’t there be a copy of Olniscience in the sideboard? I do like Lier in the deck as it makes it so you can get past a control decks counters.
Fae is less synergistic with Lier, but it’s certainly an option. The sideboard can be changed quite a bit, I’ve only found myself getting Approach so far.
This is probably going to get me to reinstall arena isn't it? Lotus field is one of my favorite cards, but the tale's end/discontinuity build is just too slow and inconsistent against the greasefang/heroic turn 3 kill meta. Now with sylvan scrying and thespian stage I can see myself giving mtga another try
My question is for the community: do you think there are any types of decks that are cheap like the people playing it should be ashamed like it's bad for the game of magic? I've seen people complain about decks that are all counter-magic based, or mono-red in standard, or ridiculously slow control/combo decks that take forever to execute like paradox engine decks. The issue I have is that like once we start to define what's a fun/good/healthy magic deck vs. a toxic strategy, I feel we rule out so much of the format. here's the latest one I hate--anything with the one ring, like sheoldring in particular
Yeesh, will WotC EVER make the UI cleaner for combo decks? It's ridiculous Arena has been around for what, 6 years now? And playing combo in Arena is still painful as hell, I feel RSI symptons just WATCHING this 🤢🤮
This video you said something odd several times. It was "next turn". That doesn't make sense though, there isn't such a thing as "next turn" with signfigant combo decks.
disgusting combos like this one is why I have 0 desire to play historic or explorer. Magic gets progressively worse, and fast, the further you stray from limited.
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Love the videos man, been watching for a while and you're a big inspiration for how I play Magic. You play so calmly and evaluate your options, explaining your thought process as you go. Thanks for being an amazing content creator!
I appreciate that!
Totally true, I'd like to play with that patience, but it might be easier when you have 150 IQ and good decks 😂😂😂
I really like playing with ratadrabick but it's so annoying 😭😭
You never get tilted. I love it! 👍
It's honestly crazy how chill he stays.
Nice. Wow, like I don't think it's the full Monty lotus deck, but it's very powerful. I got excited soon as I saw thespian in the anthology
Hopefully hidden strings is on arena by 2024
I've frequently found myself exerting Hope Tender and then cycling Vizier to untap the Hope Tender so it can exert again on the same turn, which generates an absolutely silly amount of mana.
For best-of-3, Pioneer Lotus Field decks usually have Dragonlord Dromoka in the sideboard to help against counterspell decks. Dromoka isn't on Arena, so I've been putting Myrel in that spot instead. You should see control opponents squirm when you cast Myrel after they've boarded out all their creature removal for Dovin's Vetoes.
Great points!
Omniscience is such a good card. I always say that if I'm paying more than 7 mana for a card I want it to win me the game.
I'm usually not a fan of combo decks, but this one is so interesting, being my first time seeing a Lotus Field deck.
I especially love the simplicity of a single land that "just" makes 2 extra mana becoming the centerpiece of the deck and single-handedly breaking the normal rules of the game, similar to Nykthos but somehow more elegant.
trust me there's nothing elegant about being combo'd turn 3 on paper
It looks fun to be on the comboing side of, being combo'd by this takes like 12 years haha
The hardest concept for me to grasp when learning Magic was that mana and card advantage are the goal, not damage. This combo would have gone a long way to illustrating that. Great video as always LVD your explanations make watching a repeated combo interesting all the way through
Watching you combo off is so great. You barely ever make mistakes and having your comprehensive narration helps me understand the strategies and choices you make. Keep it up!
I have no idea how to play magic beyond the prebuilt decks me and a few friends shared back in the day. Recently gained an interest in arena again after the card game itch came back, this is wild!
At first I thought that the deck is a little one-sided and vulnerable, but the way you pilot the deck with your limitless expertise made the video incredibly fun to watch! Different options you considered depending on the match-up and the situation at hand really made the deck shine!
Just wanna say, thank you for showing the losses too! They can be even more educational than the wins.
26:35 That Creativity Control deck was very cool and piloted quite well. Izzet control with Gx combo finishers? What a fun game to watch even on the losing end!
Such beauty to see you play stuff like this. That game 2 "loop" my goodness.
Second game man.. was just INSANE :)
I do appreciate a bonkers combo deck that just says "I cast Approach, draw to it, and win the game once I pop off" rather than needing an obscene flurry of triggers to resolve. Opponents don't need to sit and watch in the hopes that you fizzle, but if they choose to watch, it isn't a miserable mess of priority interactions.
Format is nuts
all your vids are so pleasing to watch
LegenVD and ThrabenU both uploading Lotus Field on the same day. What a treat!
Beautiful. I think watching anybody else pilot this deck would be painful. That's why we need you
Disgustingly awesome combo! Thank you for making this archetype Luca! You really are the best, man!!
Another one you can do for ultimatum is get both omniscience and one with the multiverse plus your tutor spell to get guaranteed omniscience
It helps when you have your combo pieces in your hand already
Yeah a lot of ways to customize those wincons!
Thanks for the list and showing how this deck differs from Pioneer
Best MtG content creator hands down. Really enjoy every video 👍
Appreciate that
Okay, this was kinda crazy to me. Every video learning new things you can do in Magic XD. Nice video nonetheless!
Built this deck already but waited for LVDs list
Wow, I didn't even think of untapping exerted cards before. Hmmm the possibilities.
Best MTG content out there :)
Solitaire looking really cool these days
Slowly filling this world with people who have seen enough
I suppose you could use defabricate and discontinuity in this deck to get around the sac triggers on Arena, which is about as many copies you would need to have some consitency with the trick so extra fields aren’t dead in hand.
Tale's End is probably more versatile, but that's indeed a different way of building around Lotus Field like I mention in the intro.
ah yes, bad old memories
good stuff as always!
Could someone explain the Acquisition in the sideboard? It can only be found with another acquisition, right? Is it for looping somehow?
Doesn't really have a purpose, I actually considered putting Wishcoin Crab in there.
I always forget of stuply strong is Kiora.
LVD, why a Mastermind Acquisition in the sideboard? To take it with another Mastermind Acquisition?? That doesn't seems to provide a lot of value...
I've since replaced it with a much better card.
Check out the decklist link!
What about Fae of Wishes? Is it legal in the format? I got a pioneer precon lotus field combo deck just to have a deck to play and I’ve enjoyed Fae of Woshes going to get Omniscience from the board and other stuff.
Hidden Strings needs to be released asap.
Shouldn’t there be a copy of Olniscience in the sideboard?
I do like Lier in the deck as it makes it so you can get past a control decks counters.
Fae is less synergistic with Lier, but it’s certainly an option. The sideboard can be changed quite a bit, I’ve only found myself getting Approach so far.
Funny, legacy player @ThrabenU also made a Lotus Field video the same day... Coincidence?
Hey Legend, thanks as always for your work!
At 25:17, why doesn't Chandra copy pore over the pages ? Didn't you cast her before the blue sorcery?
Apparently with Ultimatum they’re both cast at the same time, so no way to copy with Chandra.
@@LegenVD Thanks as always for you answer.
Hope to see creativity combo (similar to the Reid duke's one at PT) soon!
@@riccardopiombo222 Did one a while ago which is almost identical, just replace the two win conditions: ua-cam.com/video/uBwsedpUy5s/v-deo.html
Such a cool video
But I have an issue - can't import deck because mtga "cant find some cards names"
It works for me, make sure you export it using the MTG Arena formatting on Aetherhub.
Ho yeah I think limited finally swapped from lotr on arena gonna watch this vid then go play
Ironic the ideal goal of the deck in generating infinite mana is to gain Omniscience, and thereby no longer require mana.
Would stifle/defabricate have a place in this deck? Ramps for 2 with lotus field, and makes those double lotus hands less awkward
Stifle isn’t legal but you could run Tale’s End.
@LegenVD im wondering how come you put a copy of mastermind acquisition in the sideboard?
It's been replaced, check the decklist link!
@@LegenVD Massive improvement! The deck is now top tier meta. love you LVD ♥
Master Legend, pleaaase an update for bo3 🙏
My man is playing yugioh
This deck is a mobile player worst nightmare.
Behold the beyond I in te inistrad set
They didn’t include it in Arena (yet).
Explorer really is where degens gather
Historic**
That's any non rotating best of one format
This is probably going to get me to reinstall arena isn't it? Lotus field is one of my favorite cards, but the tale's end/discontinuity build is just too slow and inconsistent against the greasefang/heroic turn 3 kill meta. Now with sylvan scrying and thespian stage I can see myself giving mtga another try
So. Many. Game actions. Per. Turn.
You play it and get a keepable hand 9 out of 10 times. I play it get maybe 2 times. But the shuffler is fine 🙄
Shuffler is out there to screw you specifically actually.
I love your videos, but i swear if i start seeing this more and more in game imma be upset with ya 😂
Does anybody not netdecking use those basic forests in game 7? Just curious :)
Having access to Frantic Search would really provide a lot of valuable.
My question is for the community: do you think there are any types of decks that are cheap like the people playing it should be ashamed like it's bad for the game of magic? I've seen people complain about decks that are all counter-magic based, or mono-red in standard, or ridiculously slow control/combo decks that take forever to execute like paradox engine decks. The issue I have is that like once we start to define what's a fun/good/healthy magic deck vs. a toxic strategy, I feel we rule out so much of the format.
here's the latest one I hate--anything with the one ring, like sheoldring in particular
Well the one ring is horribly unbalanced and is legitimately bad for the game. So that's more an actual compliant rather than hating a type of deck
Yeesh, will WotC EVER make the UI cleaner for combo decks? It's ridiculous Arena has been around for what, 6 years now? And playing combo in Arena is still painful as hell, I feel RSI symptons just WATCHING this 🤢🤮
This deck seems extremely tedious to play 😂
They still don't have the creativity
Is that a read? 😂
This video you said something odd several times. It was "next turn". That doesn't make sense though, there isn't such a thing as "next turn" with signfigant combo decks.
disgusting combos like this one is why I have 0 desire to play historic or explorer. Magic gets progressively worse, and fast, the further you stray from limited.