I feel like people need to let it go. This video- and others- really show that film is film. Thats all it is. Digital has so many strengths which film can't offer.. no reason we need to try and force a film replacement in there too. Best thing to do is just find a digicam we identify with and be happy with that, imo.
@@seandalt Oh, I didn't mean to imply that you were one of those people who try to make digital into film. The "people who need to let it go" was a reference to the countless UA-camrs who still call Fuji more "photo like," etc. This video was great 👍
I’ve always wanted to see a real comparison between film and digital, and as a digital photographer, I’m convinced that film is the best. I need to start shooting on film ASAP. Thank you for this video, and much respect for your effort-carrying 3 cameras must be quite a challenge!
The film ones do look great. But I don't think you're doing Fuji justice with that recipe. I think you would've gotten closer starting with one of the film simulations and adjusting it yourself. That would've saved you from editing the jpeg after the fact. I think that would've been the point of shooting jpeg - to no longer do any post processing?
The Portra 400 recipe from Fuji X weekly is pretty popular, so I wanted to compare the recipe right out of the gate. Definitely want to play around with it and customize it a bit more to get it more dialed in, but it will never be much closer tbh. But like I said at the end of the video, it doesn’t have to match 1:1 to have the same vibe/feeling as film. If you really want to match film you’ll need to shoot in RAW and work on each shot individually, like I did with some of the Sony RAWs
i agree. i think the recipes from fujixweekly are a great starting point for a simulation, but the real magic happens once you tweak the settings to your liking, or closer to that “film look” afterwards. I find that the recipes from fujixweekly requires your own personal spin to them to really bring out their full potential still a great video from Sean though
THank you for all that work! I would not want to carry three cameras around. I'm a bit shocked at how good the film looks compared to the simulations. I'm 55 so I grew up with film, but it is expensive and I was really happy when digital came along for cost, convenience, etc. I admit that I "spray and pray" a lot more than I used to in the film days so perhaps I've lost some mindfulness as a tradeoff? But your comparison really has me wondering about trying film again. I struggle to get colors in Lightroom that I love, but that Portra 400 looks really good. I thought I preferred low contrast, but the film's slightly higher contrast is lovely. Your edited versions look great and if I could ship all my digitial files to you for editing I would be happy haha.
Thank you for the comment! It was definitely a lot of work haha, but I always enjoy shooting. The film definitely looks epic, I was surprised as well. I’m more of a digital shooter as well but started shooting film for exactly that reason, to slow down. I highly recommend it :)
Nice video. Goes to show that replicating all the chemistry that goes on in the film cannot be replaced by blanked preset. Some things just have no equivalence between the mediums. Your photos with preset definitely got into the ball park. One question is what white balance did you use?
I have been shooting film for over 50 years and digital for nearly 23 years. Do any of these available to buy ' presets ' make a digital file look like a film? The answer is an emphatic no. Can a digital file be made to look like film? Yes it can, but the process requires that the RGB spectral response of the film for a given light temperature be fully mapped and profiled, and then applied to a ' nulled ' digital output of the sensor. This is easier said than done, it takes highly specilized equipment and technical know how, and TBH I doubt if there is enough memory available in a digital camera to hold all the reuired data. As for myself, I do have a couple of these presets to apply in post, and I just use them as ' effect ' from time to time and not to emulate film. That is why I still shoot a lot of B&W and at tmes even colour negative film. Digital is quite a valid medium by itself so long as people do not just push the sliders to the extreme to make ' dramatic ' photos. God knows how I hate that digital look.
I appreciate the comment! And I agree it will never be 1:1, but there’s no reason for it to be anyway. Editing a digital file allows us to get the same feeling as film and ultimately that’s all that matters in photography
You didn't happen to leave white balance on auto did you? Because that odd tinting I'm seeing throughout the digital cameras reminds me of that. Most film is set for daylight white balance, and that's where I leave my cameras almost all the time. Also, as for film having less dynamic range, that's fairly normal. Modern digital sensors vastly outperform most film. ( Even if it's in the direction of shadows, not highlights ) There's also the RawTherapee Film Simulation Collection, which is a set of luts that I think quite closely mimic film, there's also t3mujinpack which, while targeted at darktable users, does have luts available as well. As you had mentioned with the mist filter, a lot of what we see in old film is character from the lenses themselves. I often use vintage lenses on my Sony cameras, I like the modern Voigtlaender / Cosina lenses too, and if you're on a Fuji, Voigtlaender has some great lenses specifically for X mount that'll give you a nice vintage look, plus being full manual lenses, they're extremely compact.
Great work! Here I like your film pictures more. But putting my personal taste beside: The film pictures have a higher contrast and a natural overall colour tone on which the colours of each element can shine. The digital pictures have a dominant colour grading on the whole picture and smoother contrast. What we might to have to take into account is the the film process normally ends on a hard copy to be placed on a wall and so there is the light of the room, mainly warm indoor light, which has a big influence on the final reception of the picture. This might add the overall warmer taint. And this is already added in the digital pictures as theses are probably produced for mainly daylight-calibrated digital displays. So I can understand why the digital filters add a warm overall taint. Another aspect is that the digital emulations might be designed to match with old pictures prints, fotos from our childhood, and not with recently produced ones.
100%, great insight there. That’s why I said what I send at the end of the video, with digital files we can capture the same essence or feeling that we get with film. At the end of the day, that’s all that really matters
I have before, the scans are also very contrasty. I went to Point and Shoot first but the scans weren’t great. I went to DOT Lab after that in Suthep and he’s much better imo. Next time I’ll probably send it to bkk
Fuji base “film sim” files are really really nice. When you start drastically messing with the WB shifts it really gets IG filter-like rather than film like. IMHO I wish Fuji would allow color channel luminance adjustment and THEN you really have something you can move toward “film”. But, Fuji knows color and I think people will be happier long term just leaving base film sims with maybe a contrast adjustment based on the situation.
two issues, I shoot fuji and have come to the conclusion that most FujiXWeekly recipes have a tendency to work much better during golden hour or very bright sunlight. Additionally you can realistically only affect colours on the Fuji by WB shifts which is a very rough and blunt tool for the job. Additionally Sony RAWs are notorious for being more difficult to colour grade than RAW images of other manufacturers including Fuji. I'd say if you tried to apply your preset on top of the Fuji RAW you might have had better results?
Would have to agree with you on that, they really shine in harder light. I love to shoot with the summer recipe in hard light, checkout my Lisbon or Granada photo walk vlogs. In regards to the Sony raws, I think that used to be the case a few years ago but the color science is spot on now. Back when I had the A7R2 the color really wasn’t great, but on the A74 it’s very nice and the raw files are a dream to work with. I’ve found that when I really push it the Fuji files fall apart faster than the Sonys. With that said, I’ll definitely include some Fuji raw edits in the next vid! I wanna test out some other film stocks
I liked all of the film shots better. There's a quality to the color that the digitals didn't have. I think people compare the X100V to film often but really the APS-C fujis aren't that great at emulating it. I had one for a short period of time and sold it because I was quite unhappy with the files. Fuji GFX is where it's at and they the easiest digital files to make look like film. Way more color depth and color separation like film has.
I'd LOVE to get those RAW images, Because I know for sure I can make it look better than that. (Not trying to dis or anything, I just know I can make it look almost identical) Colours are way off. Also, the best photo regarding composition on all these are the ones taken on film, so that's at play too. There will be something subconcious that makes you prefer the film one even if they all looked identical, simply because it's a more pleasing image. Take the first one, it's level, framed nicely with depth because the stuff in the foreground. And sky is cut out making your eye go to the car instead.
The point wasn’t necessarily to get it 1:1, but rather compare the jpgs and the preset right out of the gate. Can definitely get it to match more, especially the Sony raws
Thank you my man! I tried that, but the images just looked even more washed out. When you increase the shadows in the Fuji is just softens out the shadows in a way that doesn’t look like film which typically has deep blacks. The WB could definitely be adjusted and the portra 400 v2 recipe is much more in line with real portra. I don’t think you could ever 100% nail the 1:1 film look with Fuji, at the end of the day they’re completely different mechanisms of capturing light
Interesting to me is that this question gets discussed by the generation which is not native analog. For my taste my tutor have proofed more than one time in that he can get the digital picture looking extremely close to the analog color feel. This is maybe he did shot Tons of analog film roles more than I ever shot back in the days. The younger generation experiences something which they don’t know. Thats ok for me. It’s a different process. But for the old cats it’s old news. For me I think I am much more creative with my digital gear. It frees my mind to try crazy things without worrying too much about costs…😮… some people say it’s about the feeling that you don’t know exactly what happens. I remember that I knew Ilford 400 damn good, and I was able to predict pretty damn good how the picture will turn out. Isn’t this the definition of taking a great picture? And the idea is pretty much the same film vs. sensor. Do digital pictures look a bit too clean? To me it depends what you use. I still use my loved FujiPro2 and I know the pictures are never perfectly clean. This sensor ads some grain, artifacts which are very similar to analog pictures. I think this was a great Idea by Fuji. For the rest. Yes I do enjoy using the M6. But it’s not that I can say… the pictures look much better. A bad composition stays bad, no matter which camera I use.😮
I think the light in Thailand goes especially good with a little bit tweaked classic chrome. Lower the blackpoint a bit in the end and voila. Just my 2cents :)
Would have also been interesting to shoot raw with the Fuji and see what the files would have looked like edited with your film preset. I assume the Portra preset over the raw file would have looked much better than the film recipe on the jpeg. Thanks for the comparison. Great insight!
I should have included a few for sure. I can say though that the Sony RAWs are much easier to work with than the Fuji RAWs. Not saying the Fujis are bad by any means, but I love working on Sony files and you can get pretty damn close to the film look if you take the time to be precise
Although I don't like using film, the colors that the film gives are more realistic. The yellows are yellows and don't have an orange tone. The same thing is happening with the other colors. The most important thing I noticed is that in film the whites are whites! So the photos are brighter, as seen especially in the last set of photos, the ones with the curtains and the balcony.
I like the photos. Though some photos, l wondered if you could adjust certain colors in the digital photos in Lightroom to make them look like the film photos. And I downloaded the free presets and I love how they look on some of my photos.
I definitely could have matched them closer but wanted to show the comparison based on the preset and the Fuji film sim right out of the gate. With the Sony Raws you can pretty much match it almost 1:1. I only edited a few images to get this close
Its not only color grade , its the lens use also , most modern lenses is too sharp , film camera lens have that character , softness.. Anyways great comparison. ❤️
You can absolutely emulate film-like qualities. But the overall effect of film is more than the sum of its parts. So it’s really a matter of what you want. Because film is, for obvious reasons, a bit more time consuming and less forgiving than digital. The only urge I have for film is B&W specifically. Feel like no digital images ever properly emulate that look for me. To each their own!
Disclaimer : I have never shot film. However, as a passionate Fuji user (and a digital camera shooter in general) I have yet to see anything replicating film either Fujifilm recipe or preset from any photographer. The main differences I notice are mostly in terms of how colors look as you mentioned but also how whites respond. With a preset/recipe whites have an unpleasant tint either too warm or too green. Sure after tweaking an image with a preset/recipe or editing one from scratch it can look very very film-like. But in terms of just slapping a preset or using a recipe and be done with it is something that sadly won't do. I say sadly because the original film photos look so good but not everyone enjoys the whole process. That being said, there are recipes that look less "digital" in general and are very pleasing, they still aren't film - like but look better than most modern digital files. By the way, as much as I like fuji x weekly since that is how the recipe cult started I am not a huge fan of its recipes. Nowadays, there are so many pages as well as individuals who share their fujifilm recipes and I can think of a couple that would work far better than the Portra recipe of fuji x weekly. P.S. that is in terms of color photos. Black and white works a lot better between film and digital.
@@LuciusVulpes Sure here are some i like. As I said above most won't have the oldish film look but can still work great. I think I cannot share links (comment gets deleted) so will just write their names and you can google. rossandhisjpegs fujifilm-recipes captnlook osan-bilgi fujifilm-recipes film recipes (that is pretty generic I know but the page is called like that and has an f.r logo) Thing with recipes is you need to figure out which one to use for different lighting. Some who are more generic and have minor adjustments work great as general purpose recipes but some who look fantastic during e.g. golden hour might look totally off for any other lighting
Agreed, film does a damn good job with colors and whites/highlights. Was interesting to see that up close when I was making this video. Would love to see some of those other recipes you recommend!
The Show Cobra Kai switches from the new digitally filmed show to l flashback cuts from the 3 movies filmed in 35mm, the difference is obvious. Nothing beats film to create a cinematic artistic movie. It just looks and feels different in terms of texture, motion, color and lighting!
fuji x weekly simulations are not good , i wish you tried your own, you can see in some of the shots of sky that the recipie gets all colors wrong, but the camera is absolutely able to get that blue sky color . BTW i really liked all the shots you took .
I don’t actually shoot with the Portra 400 recipe, but wanted to compare it as a lot of people like it. Summer is probably my favorite recipe but it’s very situational.
You should really clarify that the scanner used on the Portra makes a big difference, just like the edit on digital films. When you say the film looks like 'straight out of camera', what does that mean? Did you get TIFFS from the negative scans, or JPEGS? Has the person doing the scans done any kind of colour balance, edit, etc.? Just telling people that 'Portra film looks like this' is completely wrong
100%, that’s why I mentioned the impact that scans can have and that results will vary depending on the lab or self scanning. When I said straight out of camera I was referring to the digital shots, not the film
Hello Dalton I downloaded your free preset and it’s XMP file I don’t have computer to change it to DNG is it possible to get those preset as a DNG please ? I willing to pay if you need 🙏🏽
Oh I didn’t know that before thank you I my iphone is super old I haven’t updated the new version yet 😂. Is that mean if I buy your preset in the future it’s all XMP file too ?
Wildly impractical haha, but I think there’s beauty in returning to the roots of photography. I’m a digital photographer and always will be, but find the process of shooting film interesting. Will probably always be a side hobby for me
Lmao, as I'm reading this, I'm sitting on a little over 200 rolls of film, a Pentax 17, and a few new to me 35mm cameras 😂 over the last year, I wanted to figure out what all of the fuss is about since I've only ever shot digital cameras, so now I need to get out and get her done!
They both have tons of value and benefits and there's things we can learn from film on digital too. Personally I'll probably not go back to film, but seeing what people do with it currently is really great. Slowing down a bit, not obsessing over sharpness or perfectly corrected images or putting more value into color and rendering or even sometimes adding "imperfections" like mist filters or vintage lenses that bring the edge down a bit. We'll likely not see a full resurgence of film but there's obviously a bit of magic there we'll probably always be chasing.
Which film stock should I test next? 🤙🏼
what about black and white... ilford hp5 ?
I feel like people need to let it go. This video- and others- really show that film is film. Thats all it is. Digital has so many strengths which film can't offer.. no reason we need to try and force a film replacement in there too. Best thing to do is just find a digicam we identify with and be happy with that, imo.
I think it’s just interesting to see the differences next to each other. I enjoy both film and digital for different reasons
@@seandalt Oh, I didn't mean to imply that you were one of those people who try to make digital into film. The "people who need to let it go" was a reference to the countless UA-camrs who still call Fuji more "photo like," etc.
This video was great 👍
@@SourPlanethaha no worries, thank you!
Good job ❤
I’ve always wanted to see a real comparison between film and digital, and as a digital photographer, I’m convinced that film is the best. I need to start shooting on film ASAP. Thank you for this video, and much respect for your effort-carrying 3 cameras must be quite a challenge!
I think every photographer should, just for the experience. Film is our roots, and it’s a completely different experience to digital
Nothing can beats film... great video Sean! And thanks for the free presets.
Film is next level man! And no worries brother, I hope you enjoy them!
The film ones do look great. But I don't think you're doing Fuji justice with that recipe. I think you would've gotten closer starting with one of the film simulations and adjusting it yourself. That would've saved you from editing the jpeg after the fact. I think that would've been the point of shooting jpeg - to no longer do any post processing?
The Portra 400 recipe from
Fuji X weekly is pretty popular, so I wanted to compare the recipe right out of the gate.
Definitely want to play around with it and customize it a bit more to get it more dialed in, but it will never be much closer tbh. But like I said at the end of the video, it doesn’t have to match 1:1 to have the same vibe/feeling as film.
If you really want to match film you’ll need to shoot in RAW and work on each shot individually, like I did with some of the Sony RAWs
i agree. i think the recipes from fujixweekly are a great starting point for a simulation, but the real magic happens once you tweak the settings to your liking, or closer to that “film look” afterwards. I find that the recipes from fujixweekly requires your own personal spin to them to really bring out their full potential
still a great video from Sean though
THank you for all that work! I would not want to carry three cameras around. I'm a bit shocked at how good the film looks compared to the simulations. I'm 55 so I grew up with film, but it is expensive and I was really happy when digital came along for cost, convenience, etc. I admit that I "spray and pray" a lot more than I used to in the film days so perhaps I've lost some mindfulness as a tradeoff? But your comparison really has me wondering about trying film again. I struggle to get colors in Lightroom that I love, but that Portra 400 looks really good. I thought I preferred low contrast, but the film's slightly higher contrast is lovely. Your edited versions look great and if I could ship all my digitial files to you for editing I would be happy haha.
Thank you for the comment! It was definitely a lot of work haha, but I always enjoy shooting. The film definitely looks epic, I was surprised as well.
I’m more of a digital shooter as well but started shooting film for exactly that reason, to slow down. I highly recommend it :)
Love most of the film photos... well done!!
Thank you my man!
Nice video. Goes to show that replicating all the chemistry that goes on in the film cannot be replaced by blanked preset. Some things just have no equivalence between the mediums. Your photos with preset definitely got into the ball park. One question is what white balance did you use?
your film examples look so much better. 😓
The film sure does look nice!
I have been shooting film for over 50 years and digital for nearly 23 years. Do any of these available to buy ' presets ' make a digital file look like a film? The answer is an emphatic no. Can a digital file be made to look like film? Yes it can, but the process requires that the RGB spectral response of the film for a given light temperature be fully mapped and profiled, and then applied to a ' nulled ' digital output of the sensor. This is easier said than done, it takes highly specilized equipment and technical know how, and TBH I doubt if there is enough memory available in a digital camera to hold all the reuired data. As for myself, I do have a couple of these presets to apply in post, and I just use them as ' effect ' from time to time and not to emulate film. That is why I still shoot a lot of B&W and at tmes even colour negative film. Digital is quite a valid medium by itself so long as people do not just push the sliders to the extreme to make ' dramatic ' photos. God knows how I hate that digital look.
I appreciate the comment! And I agree it will never be 1:1, but there’s no reason for it to be anyway. Editing a digital file allows us to get the same feeling as film and ultimately that’s all that matters in photography
You didn't happen to leave white balance on auto did you? Because that odd tinting I'm seeing throughout the digital cameras reminds me of that. Most film is set for daylight white balance, and that's where I leave my cameras almost all the time.
Also, as for film having less dynamic range, that's fairly normal. Modern digital sensors vastly outperform most film. ( Even if it's in the direction of shadows, not highlights )
There's also the RawTherapee Film Simulation Collection, which is a set of luts that I think quite closely mimic film, there's also t3mujinpack which, while targeted at darktable users, does have luts available as well.
As you had mentioned with the mist filter, a lot of what we see in old film is character from the lenses themselves. I often use vintage lenses on my Sony cameras, I like the modern Voigtlaender / Cosina lenses too, and if you're on a Fuji, Voigtlaender has some great lenses specifically for X mount that'll give you a nice vintage look, plus being full manual lenses, they're extremely compact.
Great work! Here I like your film pictures more. But putting my personal taste beside: The film pictures have a higher contrast and a natural overall colour tone on which the colours of each element can shine. The digital pictures have a dominant colour grading on the whole picture and smoother contrast. What we might to have to take into account is the the film process normally ends on a hard copy to be placed on a wall and so there is the light of the room, mainly warm indoor light, which has a big influence on the final reception of the picture. This might add the overall warmer taint. And this is already added in the digital pictures as theses are probably produced for mainly daylight-calibrated digital displays. So I can understand why the digital filters add a warm overall taint. Another aspect is that the digital emulations might be designed to match with old pictures prints, fotos from our childhood, and not with recently produced ones.
100%, great insight there. That’s why I said what I send at the end of the video, with digital files we can capture the same essence or feeling that we get with film. At the end of the day, that’s all that really matters
Did you happen to have it developed/scanned at the lab (negative lab) 2 mins from that cafe?
I have before, the scans are also very contrasty.
I went to Point and Shoot first but the scans weren’t great. I went to DOT Lab after that in Suthep and he’s much better imo. Next time I’ll probably send it to bkk
Fuji base “film sim” files are really really nice. When you start drastically messing with the WB shifts it really gets IG filter-like rather than film like. IMHO I wish Fuji would allow color channel luminance adjustment and THEN you really have something you can move toward “film”.
But, Fuji knows color and I think people will be happier long term just leaving base film sims with maybe a contrast adjustment based on the situation.
I get interesting results with Fuji GFX and the Mitakon 65mm lens, almost looking like a good ol’ Mamiya shot 🤘
Hands down the film photos it’s the closest to the real thing big difference ✌🏻
The film looks so good hey? Really want to invest in a scanner
two issues, I shoot fuji and have come to the conclusion that most FujiXWeekly recipes have a tendency to work much better during golden hour or very bright sunlight. Additionally you can realistically only affect colours on the Fuji by WB shifts which is a very rough and blunt tool for the job. Additionally Sony RAWs are notorious for being more difficult to colour grade than RAW images of other manufacturers including Fuji. I'd say if you tried to apply your preset on top of the Fuji RAW you might have had better results?
Would have to agree with you on that, they really shine in harder light. I love to shoot with the summer recipe in hard light, checkout my Lisbon or Granada photo walk vlogs.
In regards to the Sony raws, I think that used to be the case a few years ago but the color science is spot on now. Back when I had the A7R2 the color really wasn’t great, but on the A74 it’s very nice and the raw files are a dream to work with. I’ve found that when I really push it the Fuji files fall apart faster than the Sonys.
With that said, I’ll definitely include some Fuji raw edits in the next vid! I wanna test out some other film stocks
How about this? The Leica MD262 is designed like a film camera and used with a Summicron 50mm Rigid, renders like film...!
Will have to check it out! Very keen to get my hands on a leica
Hi there Sean , can you please show us how to post a 4:5 & 3:2 photos in one carousel.
I liked all of the film shots better. There's a quality to the color that the digitals didn't have. I think people compare the X100V to film often but really the APS-C fujis aren't that great at emulating it. I had one for a short period of time and sold it because I was quite unhappy with the files. Fuji GFX is where it's at and they the easiest digital files to make look like film. Way more color depth and color separation like film has.
Would love to give the Fuji GFX a shot at some point. Such a gorgeous sensor
cool concept video, thanks!
Film is king. Digital is powerful, but it just can't beat film.
Really interesting to see the photos next to each other hey? I agree, makes me want to shoot film more. Those highlights 😍
I'd LOVE to get those RAW images, Because I know for sure I can make it look better than that. (Not trying to dis or anything, I just know I can make it look almost identical) Colours are way off.
Also, the best photo regarding composition on all these are the ones taken on film, so that's at play too. There will be something subconcious that makes you prefer the film one even if they all looked identical, simply because it's a more pleasing image. Take the first one, it's level, framed nicely with depth because the stuff in the foreground. And sky is cut out making your eye go to the car instead.
The point wasn’t necessarily to get it 1:1, but rather compare the jpgs and the preset right out of the gate. Can definitely get it to match more, especially the Sony raws
Great video! You could have gotten a lot closer to the film with Fuji if you had adjusted the WB shift and increased the shadows.
Thank you my man! I tried that, but the images just looked even more washed out. When you increase the shadows in the Fuji is just softens out the shadows in a way that doesn’t look like film which typically has deep blacks.
The WB could definitely be adjusted and the portra 400 v2 recipe is much more in line with real portra.
I don’t think you could ever 100% nail the 1:1 film look with Fuji, at the end of the day they’re completely different mechanisms of capturing light
Interesting to me is that this question gets discussed by the generation which is not native analog. For my taste my tutor have proofed more than one time in that he can get the digital picture looking extremely close to the analog color feel. This is maybe he did shot Tons of analog film roles more than I ever shot back in the days. The younger generation experiences something which they don’t know. Thats ok for me. It’s a different process. But for the old cats it’s old news. For me I think I am much more creative with my digital gear. It frees my mind to try crazy things without worrying too much about costs…😮… some people say it’s about the feeling that you don’t know exactly what happens. I remember that I knew Ilford 400 damn good, and I was able to predict pretty damn good how the picture will turn out. Isn’t this the definition of taking a great picture? And the idea is pretty much the same film vs. sensor. Do digital pictures look a bit too clean? To me it depends what you use. I still use my loved FujiPro2 and I know the pictures are never perfectly clean. This sensor ads some grain, artifacts which are very similar to analog pictures. I think this was a great Idea by Fuji. For the rest. Yes I do enjoy using the M6. But it’s not that I can say… the pictures look much better. A bad composition stays bad, no matter which camera I use.😮
I think the light in Thailand goes especially good with a little bit tweaked classic chrome. Lower the blackpoint a bit in the end and voila. Just my 2cents :)
Will give that a shot! I was just using the Portra 400 recipe to test it out next to Portra 400
Would have also been interesting to shoot raw with the Fuji and see what the files would have looked like edited with your film preset. I assume the Portra preset over the raw file would have looked much better than the film recipe on the jpeg. Thanks for the comparison. Great insight!
I should have included a few for sure. I can say though that the Sony RAWs are much easier to work with than the Fuji RAWs. Not saying the Fujis are bad by any means, but I love working on Sony files and you can get pretty damn close to the film look if you take the time to be precise
Although I don't like using film, the colors that the film gives are more realistic. The yellows are yellows and don't have an orange tone. The same thing is happening with the other colors. The most important thing I noticed is that in film the whites are whites! So the photos are brighter, as seen especially in the last set of photos, the ones with the curtains and the balcony.
I like the photos. Though some photos, l wondered if you could adjust certain colors in the digital photos in Lightroom to make them look like the film photos.
And I downloaded the free presets and I love how they look on some of my photos.
I definitely could have matched them closer but wanted to show the comparison based on the preset and the Fuji film sim right out of the gate. With the Sony Raws you can pretty much match it almost 1:1. I only edited a few images to get this close
Its not only color grade , its the lens use also , most modern lenses is too sharp , film camera lens have that character , softness..
Anyways great comparison. ❤️
Did you shoot a specific fuji simulation for your x100v-i ? Or did you edit the raws?
I used the portra 400 recipe! No raws from the Fuji. Raws were from the Sony
You can absolutely emulate film-like qualities. But the overall effect of film is more than the sum of its parts. So it’s really a matter of what you want. Because film is, for obvious reasons, a bit more time consuming and less forgiving than digital. The only urge I have for film is B&W specifically. Feel like no digital images ever properly emulate that look for me. To each their own!
Disclaimer : I have never shot film. However, as a passionate Fuji user (and a digital camera shooter in general) I have yet to see anything replicating film either Fujifilm recipe or preset from any photographer. The main differences I notice are mostly in terms of how colors look as you mentioned but also how whites respond. With a preset/recipe whites have an unpleasant tint either too warm or too green.
Sure after tweaking an image with a preset/recipe or editing one from scratch it can look very very film-like. But in terms of just slapping a preset or using a recipe and be done with it is something that sadly won't do. I say sadly because the original film photos look so good but not everyone enjoys the whole process. That being said, there are recipes that look less "digital" in general and are very pleasing, they still aren't film - like but look better than most modern digital files.
By the way, as much as I like fuji x weekly since that is how the recipe cult started I am not a huge fan of its recipes. Nowadays, there are so many pages as well as individuals who share their fujifilm recipes and I can think of a couple that would work far better than the Portra recipe of fuji x weekly.
P.S. that is in terms of color photos. Black and white works a lot better between film and digital.
Can you name them? I am looking for better recipes but I only know FXW.
@@LuciusVulpes Sure here are some i like. As I said above most won't have the oldish film look but can still work great. I think I cannot share links (comment gets deleted) so will just write their names and you can google.
rossandhisjpegs fujifilm-recipes
captnlook
osan-bilgi fujifilm-recipes
film recipes (that is pretty generic I know but the page is called like that and has an f.r logo)
Thing with recipes is you need to figure out which one to use for different lighting. Some who are more generic and have minor adjustments work great as general purpose recipes but some who look fantastic during e.g. golden hour might look totally off for any other lighting
@@LuciusVulpes sure. I cannot provide links in the comment section. Check Osan Bigi, captnlook, Ross's Fujifilm Recipes and Ross's Fujifilm Recipes.
Agreed, film does a damn good job with colors and whites/highlights. Was interesting to see that up close when I was making this video.
Would love to see some of those other recipes you recommend!
The film is so good compared to the others.
Agreed, the film looks so good
The Show Cobra Kai switches from the new digitally filmed show to l flashback cuts from the 3 movies filmed in 35mm, the difference is obvious. Nothing beats film to create a cinematic artistic movie. It just looks and feels different in terms of texture, motion, color and lighting!
Very much enjoyed the video =) Thank you!!!
fuji x weekly simulations are not good , i wish you tried your own, you can see in some of the shots of sky that the recipie gets all colors wrong, but the camera is absolutely able to get that blue sky color . BTW i really liked all the shots you took .
I don’t actually shoot with the Portra 400 recipe, but wanted to compare it as a lot of people like it. Summer is probably my favorite recipe but it’s very situational.
You just can't beat film. If only Kodachrome was still around!
The dream. Kodachrome is stunning
Can you do a tutorial on how to make photos look like porta 400?
You should really clarify that the scanner used on the Portra makes a big difference, just like the edit on digital films. When you say the film looks like 'straight out of camera', what does that mean? Did you get TIFFS from the negative scans, or JPEGS? Has the person doing the scans done any kind of colour balance, edit, etc.? Just telling people that 'Portra film looks like this' is completely wrong
100%, that’s why I mentioned the impact that scans can have and that results will vary depending on the lab or self scanning.
When I said straight out of camera I was referring to the digital shots, not the film
now if only ppl shooting film actually take good photos. too bad most rely on the film stock look and never learn how to properly edit anything
Truth, scans should def be edited
Question my goal is to be a professional photographer and basketball player, do you think it is possible to achieve?
M9 CCD sensor is the closest film I've seen 👍🏼
Need to try it out!
Those shots show how bad distortion is on Sony and Fuji lenses when compared to M mount lens.
Hello Dalton I downloaded your free preset and it’s XMP file I don’t have computer to change it to DNG is it possible to get those preset as a DNG please ? I willing to pay if you need 🙏🏽
Hey Steve, are you running an older version of Lightroom? xmp has been in use for quite a few years now
Oh I didn’t know that before thank you I my iphone is super old I haven’t updated the new version yet 😂. Is that mean if I buy your preset in the future it’s all XMP file too ?
@@stevestomp4235my preset packs all have dng files but I didn’t do it for this free pack. I will try to add is in there in the next few days for you
@@seandalt thank you brother really appreciate it 🙏🏽
Thanks. Film > digital. Aloha
Film is 🔥
@@Grumpygrumpoyou’re absolutely right, but that highlight retention can be pretty damn shriek
Of course you do >how > #COLORGRADING
You want a color grading tutorial you mean?
Film really trumps everything! You have me inspired to pick up a film camera
Why didn't you just shoot RAW + JPG (fine) on the Fuji ?
I do, but the Fuji raw files don’t have nearly as much data to work with compared to the Sony raws. Sony raws are beautiful
Shooting film in 2024 is mental 😂
Wildly impractical haha, but I think there’s beauty in returning to the roots of photography. I’m a digital photographer and always will be, but find the process of shooting film interesting. Will probably always be a side hobby for me
Lmao, as I'm reading this, I'm sitting on a little over 200 rolls of film, a Pentax 17, and a few new to me 35mm cameras 😂 over the last year, I wanted to figure out what all of the fuss is about since I've only ever shot digital cameras, so now I need to get out and get her done!
@@nwmi23hell yeah! 🔥🔥
They both have tons of value and benefits and there's things we can learn from film on digital too. Personally I'll probably not go back to film, but seeing what people do with it currently is really great. Slowing down a bit, not obsessing over sharpness or perfectly corrected images or putting more value into color and rendering or even sometimes adding "imperfections" like mist filters or vintage lenses that bring the edge down a bit. We'll likely not see a full resurgence of film but there's obviously a bit of magic there we'll probably always be chasing.
So you compare a kodak film wit fuji emulations? Strange…
The Fuji film simulation is Kodak Portra 400 :) comparing Kodak to Kodak