Why it's time to reconsider your opinion on prenups | Benedikt Ummen & Magdalena Witty | TEDxTUM
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Prenuptial Agreements are a no-go area for many soon-to-weds. The stigma surrounding them is still very much present in many societies, consequently perpetuating a disadvantageous system to those who choose family over their careers. To give each other peace of mind and ensure the well-being of their future family, Magdalena and Benedikt not only relished negotiating a prenup, but also turned it into the most romantic gesture they could do for each other. Life is full of surprises, which is one of its joys but it can also be daunting when things don’t go as planned. Having experienced this first-hand on an electric car trip along the Silk Road, Benedikt and Magdalena wanted their marriage to be set up having this uncertainty in mind. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
This couple seem like two incredibly reasonable and rational people. I can imagine even when they argue they are calm like this.
It is agood thing because it declares an agreement for the event of disolving the partnership. That way everyone knows what the outcome will be and there is no need for anxiety about it.
exactly :)
pre-nups will definitely find out what the relationship really is, either it can break it or make them unbreakable..
Prenups should be mandatory for all US marriages. This will reduce marriage fraud.
That, and heavy enforcement of fraud laws when a spouse violates conditions which (in the civil arena) would result in SERIOUS prison time.
Prenuptial agreements should be mandatory like car insurance is mandatory!!! Federal minimums for a registered vehicle, and then various categories on things that you can exclude or protect yourself from liability in certain circumstances.
The institution of marriage has been ruined by government/taxation/legality, and frankly religion as well. Marriage should be a bond between 2 people and absolutely nothing else. However, [in the U.S]marriage is between 2 people, the federal government, the state government, and some religion.
It has become a legal contract where liability is written in very very fine print. I know several friends making +6 figures and are basically poor because of alimony payments.
Preach!!
OK, I see you are in the men are so hurt by marriage camp. Yup, I wouldn't like alimony, either. But as a woman I see men who punish ex wives with custody battles that they don't want to win, men who turn to drug dealing so no one can enforce child support, men who really have no interest in parenting, but they like evidence of their virility, In the marriage wars I think we can declare it a mess for men AND women, OK?
@@debrabarnhardt1103 I absolutely agree with that. I would never argue against the woman's struggle nor could I really have any valuable opinion in the matter. Unfortunately, my viewpoint is very narrow and one-sided and envokes personal fears about marriage. I really just think the whole system is very outdated and needs some desparate overhauling.
@@debrabarnhardt1103 I should add, as a military vet I've seen too many just out of high school failed marriages, so the "men hurt by marriage camp" is probably exaggerated in this community. (again, not intentionally discounting the female side of this story)
"Basically poor when making 6 figures a month."
You can't make this up 🤣
Switch the playback speed to 1.25x
You’re my hero.
More like 2.0
Starts at 4:40. Good talk. Also speed up at 1.25x.
I watched at 3x lol
More men would probably get married if they had a prenup
Sounds reasonable and serves as an example of how people should treat each other if circumstances become difficult.
I feel a trust fund could do the same while protecting ALL the assets from civil court vultures and even bring money in if your fiduciary is making good investments.
If your new fiance refuses to sign a prenup, then you know they're marrying you only for your money.
If your new fiance expects you to sign a prenup, then you know they don't trust you.
@@everythingmatters6308 Or…they don’t know the future… and would like to make sure their assets are protected no matter what.
Prenups are merely a guide in Australia. And basically completely pointless if there are kids involved or the relationship is longer than a few years.
It's a healthy decision.
Yes
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Excellent talk. the presenters gave a lot to think about and wise counsel.
Where reasons for prenups are concerned a few others that people don't think about:
- A spouse who becomes addicted to drugs or alcohol, engages in self-destructive behavior, and refuses treatment. In a case like this, it may be necessary to dissolve the marriage and take the children and most assets, and limit or deny financial support to the addicted spouse.
- A spouse can be severely injured in an accident, changing plan A completely.
- Traumatic brain injury or severe psychological problems can cause a loving, well-intentioned spouse to become someone entirely different.
- In the cases above, especially the second, it can be tempting to say you meant it when you said "for better or worse, till death", but the necessity, esp. needs of the children, can change this completely.
Just a note, I am a Catholic, and believe that a valid sacramental marriage can't be sundered. But reality may require the **civil and financial aspects** of the marriage to be dissolved.
I know some Catholics who have had to divorce their spouse to protect themselves and their children from addicted spouses who have become a danger to them. They have not sinned by doing so. They've had to confront something they'd never thought possible, and deserve the love and respect of the church community around them.
wonderful talk and I hope this becomes even more relevant for me one day!
No prenup = no ring/marriage. End of the story. I'm not putting myself in danger just because i "trust" the person. Simp age is over. If you don't wanna sign a prenup, cool. You can keep loving me without a ring, until death breaks us apart :)
If she is living with you, it is a common-law marriage and she can still take legal action the same as if you were officially married.
@@benjamindover4337 Not in my country but it's good that i know that now. Thanks!
@@benjamindover4337 Exactly. That's why I would never let anyone live with me full time. He has his place and I have mine.
Thx great talk! Would be nice to have a pdf with a improved sample prenup like they said.
You can have your own opinion, but youtube comments are always so toxic! They are trying to share their experience. We considered getting one, which is not clear as my girl has savings while I'm making more now and much more in the future... we'll have each other's back... and we didn't pnup yet but why not consider options? If it's because of your church community... wtf mother truckers (O Canada) it's 2022!
Yeah your whole supposition is that people act rationally during a divorce! Not likely. Most are out for blood at that point with one party looking to get everything ""they're owed" regardless of what it costs the other party or what it does to the kids.
Husband is my support in life
That's really nice! My lady supports me too. We're getting married in some months! I'm nervous xD
Interesting channel let's go watching
Sage advise
This argument is flawed. There is something called Social Exchange Theory. Essentially, Social Exchange Theory states that people make decisions by consciously or unconsciously measuring the costs and rewards of a relationship. A prenuptial agreement increases the rewards for not being in a relationship.
Assume one of the partners gets bored by the relationship after 12 years. In such a case, this party is unlikely to resolve minor issues that develop then as way to force a divorce. It is impossible for humans to ignore this fact as a part of the solution if it exists and is easy.
The only way to prevent a prenup from becoming liability in case of minor differences is to put in place measures that can make it null and void. Prenup is not a solution to marriage troubles. It is a catalyst for divorce in most cases, especially when couples are in conflict that can be easily solved through effective communication.
Id like to do a prenup when I get married, although it seems like im betting that my marriage will end
This is god damn beautiful
Marriage is a wonderful institution...if you like institutions.
In the USA it's called a post nup if agreement is made after marriage.
You dont understand what marriage is.
I'll explain this once, and if you're triggered by it, you probably fit into this category. Do not take advice from people who look like this, and clearly cannot deadlift 2 x their own bodyweight. That is the ONLY metric of a valuable opinion. Weak body, weak mind. Lift and eat meat.
Guaranteed they get divorced.
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Nothing works in Merica not even dating, sadly.
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If their robotic marriage ends, this guy has agreed to pay years of extra money, in addition to what the law already decrees, to compensate the woman who he's no longer with for the time she wasted with him. For real? This is a joke, right?
Robotic marriage 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No joke.. she stopped her work to take care of their baby..why not pay some of that time back...
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Dont’agree at all.
Lol, TedX has totally become oligarch culture
Can you just stop spreading wrong thoughts, Ted?
those who get a pre -nup are shallow and not ready to marry and need to grow just like those who think having seperate banking accounts is a good thing
Who are these nups and what are they doing?
Finally, yes!
Robots.
I dont know what a prenup is.
This video does not interest me.
I will not watch.
Thank you.
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Mark Scott
These are not real people. They might be robots, or on strong medication. Whichever it is, the way they talk sounds creepy.
Might be because english is not their first language?
Believe it or not, people from certain other parts of the world get actual quality education, and are taught multiple languages from a very young age- resulting in very good english, but with obvious differences in timbres and tones.
@@rachaelbrugmans4309 Nah, it's not that.
@@rachaelbrugmans4309 thank you for that comment. And their spoken English is better than most people's in the US!
Gregory Spark
Jeez.
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