Daily Driving a 503hp Salvage ML63 AMG for 1 year - Expensive to Maintain?
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- If you've ever wondered if it is super expensive to maintain an old, high mileage, luxury, performance vehicle, then check this out! Today I discuss what kind of maintenance and repairs I've had to do over the last year to my salvage title ML63 AMG.
The video was getting long even though I didn't even get to other costs like insurance, excise tax, registration, etc etc. so maybe I'll do a part 2 some other time.
Hope it's helpful!
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Thoughts on a 2013 M63 AMG? Do you think the newer generation would be more reliable (reliable being all relative....)?
Im not too familiar w the 5.5L biturbo in the newer models, but I imagine it’d be somewhat more reliable given advances in technology, but, that’s not always true. For what it’s worth I haven’t heard of as many significant issues w those engines. Maybe someone else here can comment?
No way! The last generation it’s twin turbo, sow all turbo cars they are always a money pit and a headache. Cheers.
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@@Eidrian111 exactly, m157 bi turbo is a strong engije
Nice, clean, honest and with not stupid music. Subscribed! 🦅🍀
Thanks man! I try to keep it real 👌🏼
I just recently got an ML63 and am having similar experiences with the power steering and transmission.
I should probably get to changing the fluids like you did. Its cool to see others and their experiences with this car as its a very under rated AMG. I hope you post more about your experiences with the vehicle 👍🏽
Nice! Yeah as long as there aren’t any transmission fault codes to easily pinpoint what’s going on, the cheapest and easiest thing you can do is change fluid/filter and go from there. Could also try resetting the TCU adaptive learning
Hi, did you change the power steering pump or just the filter (the steering fluid tank) & fluid?
From Canada own a 2007 Ml63 AMG if you are referring to maintaining the vehicle it is all a matter of how much work you want to do to the vehicle here is a list of whats been done to mine in the last year. Previous owner was Mercedes enthusiast and went crazy with fixing things etc.
1. Brand new summer tires on stock rims and brand new winter tires on 19 inch Amg rims
2. Brakes and Rotors all four corners
3. Every single fluid and and I mean every single one changed and drained.
4. Spark plugs
5. All filters and I changed all the filters again already anyways.
6. All motor and trans mounts
7. All belts and hoses
8. Front bulbs changed to brighter better ones over original stock
9. Thermostat
10. Navigation is updated to 2020
11. Three sets of mats, Standard Ml, AMG ML, Weathertech Ml perfect fit.
12. Res delete with the X pipe in place
And more has been done. Have all original purchase order from new and what's ever been fixed on the car since new. And had the engine and everything pressure tested to make sure no headbolt issues etc.
For the first 5 years or so of the vehicles life it never had to go into the benz dealer for anything other then routine things. And never has ever had a problem other then a new compressor put in once.
Is super solid and well cared for, interior still like new and everything still 100% works.
That's my two sense of the vehicle as far as my ownership. vehicles currently has 143,000 Km's.
And would consider this one the cleanest example I have come across in the last 5 years for sale in ontario. As time goes on they are becoming harder and harder to find in good or excellent shape.
Wow sounds like yours is in amazing shape! Some of those maintenance items are definitely on my list for the near future
@@monumentauto All those things need to be done one way or another if you intend to keep the car for a while, I personally always change up my cars like a idiot lol but thankfully always choose something that has depreciated to a point were I lose so little or actually make some money I don't mind, just have to be picky with the choices and find something most don't have or low kms/Condition.
2011 jaguar xfr mint shape/ drove one year put 15,000km on and lost 2000
2013 audi s7 super low kms drove for 10 months, 10,000kms lost 800, but traded it so didn't pay tax trade in value so was ahead i feel.
2007 s550 55000kms gained 2000 after 7 months
2011 Range Rover Sport Supercharged gained 4000 after two years.
those are what I have driven in the last 3 years and i can say nothing has ever failed or cost me a lot of money, jaguar water pump thats it and it was 300 total lol
I purchased a 07 ML63 and the only item after 7k miles were the ignition coils, number 7 went out so it was acting like it would stall but it didnt, cheap enough so replaced all eight. no other issues so far and really like this purchase.. good luck!
Not bad for the first 7k mikes! What’s the total on it now? Mine was cheap the first year I owned it too…best of luck!
Really great content on your channel, Nate! I rebuilt a w163 and just finished a w209 build in my garage. I did not buy them from copart but fully depreciated from local owners. I mean those cars were mechanically totalled at 160k miles, but otherwise in great condition. The cost are always more than the car just in parts (i only use OEM quality or better), but it is so worth it to drive these excellent vehicles in fully restored condition. Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience! Love that ML63, the most beautiful SUV ever built
Thank you! And that’s so great to hear, they are great cars even at higher mileage. Glad to find someone else who likes restoring them. Do you prefer to keep stock or have you modified them at all?
@@monumentauto I restored 3 of them to stock condition and the w209 CLK500 I modified with lowering springs and shocks, and some headers with performance exhaust. It is almost as fast 0-60 as the CLK55 now, and I am working on beating that time with some more modifications
That’s awesome, I’d love to do headers on this beast but they’re like $3.5-5k alone and I don’t have the money right now. Maybe someday!
@@monumentauto I went with ebay shorty headers for $350, and I'm super happy with the results
I just picked up a ml 63, year 2012. SUV looks new inside and out ! Needed some tlc thou, like rear rotors and pads, passenger seat controller, 2 wheels, yes 2 wheels. So I spent about 3k on repairs, but now I have a beautiful rocket ship for a vehicle and for pretty cheap money considering these rigs with power package sold for 110k or more when new.
Nice!! Yeah I figure still a good deal considering how much it cost 13 years ago (or in your case 8-9 years ago)
All of what you've said i have it on my 2006 W164, i guess it's one of the common regular maintenance to this SUV which is kinda normal for a luxury SUV that gives you everything you'll need from an old good looking car!
Ive had mine purchased 4 years back at 162,000 miles from Swiderski Auto up in Buffalo for 10k. The car essentially had new tires and brakes but zero maintenance done up under the hood. At a fuel up after purchase I noticed the front of the engine literally spilling out oil. I needed timing chain cover gaskets, valve cover gaskets, oil filter housing gasket, rear SAM module but do water intrusion from taillights (keys wouldnt unlock doors and battery was discharging), and I had water intrusion through the grillslits in the hood which would spill onto the coils and kick out my Main ECU. I would say the most costly things were water related so I now keep her covered with a nice waterproof cover even though Ive fixed the intrusion issues. The Airpump just went out for the suspension that was a DIY for $140 so really not bad. Even if I have $5,000 in repairs for a total of $15,000, putting on another 10,000 miles. Its been actually treating me pretty well and is my go to winter vehicle with hitch and rear DVD options; its very adept. Starts every time, although with a rattle when cold because I believe the timing chain guides up front are loose. Im living with that may fix soon. I Love The over- engineering of the Truck and I have been learning and fixing alot of systems myself. I have an 07 Navigator L that I compare it to with more miles at 240,000 but same year truck. That engine never needed a single gasket at 240k miles just regular oil changes every 5k however, The Navigator has body rust eating away by the driver and rear passenger entry, power steering is gone, shocks are also down in the rear(just put in a new pump and thats not it likely ride height sensor). Also the transmission is going, overdrive gone but what can be expected at 240,000 miles. Build quality wise the German 2007 truck is hands down a winner with ZERO Rust Anywhere and no catastrophic issues. Lots of Little engine leaks sure, but a DAMN Good, Solid, Extremely Over Built, Extremely Fast, Daily SUV. The ML63 is worth about $12,000 currently and the Navigator about $4k in its current state. Navigator cost me $14,000 at 130,000 miles and Ive used it way more sure, only a few small repairs here and there. But Ive Lost $10,000 in Value in that truck where in the Mercedes, even with all the repairs, Ive only lost about $3,000 in value. Both really are great trucks, I appreciate the heck out of the engineering on both sides. But at some point the Navigator becomes a beater thats not worth investing into, while The Benz remains a Benz.
Wow great comment! I hope I don’t run into any of those water intrusion problems but I’m glad your ML has been good since then. And yeah, definitely seems well built, mine has no rust either and it makes me comfortable maintaining it because I know the frame/body will hold up for years to come
Bruh the sound of the engine in the back ground 🤤🤤
Have a ML63 in Uk 2008 100,000 miles used as second car amazing drive fuel is hideous so i keep my tank full never let it drop blow half a tank works for me
Nice! That works!
Haha a little to much fun going out with friends. Always got to keep track of your keys😂
Hahah yep...might’ve helped if I could’ve kept track of the jacket they were in too 😂 RIP
@@monumentauto 😂😂😂
I need a new power steering pump for my 2008 ML550. The sealant additive I'm adding helps but still leaks. 164K miles and no other issues and I've owned it two years but thinking up upgrading to the 2012 ML63 AMG.
Not bad for that many miles! As for the upgrade...Can’t go wrong with a twin turbo V8 😛
Love that car, one of the very few of this century I wouldn't care about the cost of maintaining it
Agreed, it’s pretty special. I’ll do my absolute best to maintain it well!
@@monumentauto You’re a lucky man! Enjoy every minute in your ML, will watch your channel
Great video nate, that exhaust sounds mean
not bad for a stock exhaust right? I'd love to do a resonator delete in the future
I have one, it’s fast and very reliable!
gas is still cheap in the us we pay 6 dollar a gallon here in the netherlands
Very true! I can’t complain haha
Why am I not living in the states in Germany they cost 25-40k and I read in a lot of videos in the us they got their ml63 for 10 grand or less 😭
Yep - just sold mine recently for 10k :(
@@monumentauto next time export it to Germany 😂
Dang sad your car is gone. Love the content. What’s you move onto? Not sure if I should get an 2011 with m156 or gle with m157..
My ml rear hatch handle also sticks - I only use the keyfob or door switch to open/close the back to get around it. After it sticks, the sos feature always attempts to call MB for a couple of days, lol.
Apparently it’s a pretty common issue w these cars - I also usually just use the electronic methods. And my SOS goes off randomly too! Didn’t know it was related to the tailgate
This suv hurts my back, the drivers seat is uncomfortable no matter how much I adjust it.
I’ve actually run into the same thing a little bit. It has good adjustability but it’s hard to get right cause you also have to take into account the steering wheel height etc
i got a ml550 2011 at 88,900km rn. Its not very nice on maintenance tbh
Yeah definitely expensive to maintain as it gets to be higher mileage but mines still going at 145k miles so yours has some life left!
How’s the truck now? I literally have the same one plus color and it’s extremely high maintenance. But cool now. Similar issues to you
It’s been good! I’m still fixing small things here and there from the prior owner/accident like the auxiliary water pump wiring harness was broken in the crash so I’m gonna do that soon, I’ll try to fix the cooled seats sometime, the button to rear hatch doesn’t work…but the overall it’s been good, just regular maintenance mostly now
@@monumentauto when I heard you mention the transmission feeling rough gearing from 2nd to 3rd gear. I had that issue when I’d 1st purchased it back in Oct “20”. The transmission went on me back in June. Finding a transmission for this truck wasn’t easy. Overall great truck when it’s running correctly lol but your video was spot on. I’d experienced the back trunk latch getting stuck. Now I never touch it. I’ll just use the open trunk button on remote or inside the truck. This is a monster truck. Surprisingly it’s not bad in the snow either. Thank you for your updates. It helped me get ahead of issues. It’s better to be proactive rather than reactive. Thanks again Bruh!!
Damn dude thats rough having to do a new transmission. Hope I don’t have to anytime soon, so far it seems ok. And glad you get some use out of the videos! I just do it to share experiences in case it helps other people 👌🏼
@@monumentauto helped me. But yes that’s a sign of (probable) things to come. A replacement transmission. I remember changing the transmission fluid thinking it would help. It was short term until the world ended on the highway 😂
I just had my power steering go out on my ML63 over the weekend. I was putting off replacing the reservoir and the fluid for a few weeks and I should have done it sooner. I've been having some noise for a while. I have issues with my tailgate as well, I think the sensor has issues when I ran my code reader.
Damn that sucks, seems like we have similar issues. I’ll try to replace mine before it dies on me haha
don't forget the steering rack that goes back early with all ML, GL, R models, happened to my ML550 and GL550
How do you tell if it’s the pump or the rack? Or both? Mine just groans a little especially at full lock
@@monumentauto the rack always goes at some point, both cars had the exact issue, the gl550 with 65,000km (covered by warranty) and the ml550 with 261,000km, and probably not the first time, check for leaking oil, look at the rack and see if it’s wet, on my ml550 I got away with just changing the bushings, that’s still an expensive job that only last a year because the oil corrodes the rubber around the bushings, but no regrets owning both v8’s
Thanks I’ll keep an eye out. I’m at 131k miles, not sure if it’s ever been replaced
Hello I myself owns a ml63 amg and my problem is, it makes some rattling noise when it starts, can you tell me what is the problem
Might be the camshaft adjusters - they often go bad on the m156 and can cause rattle on start up. Hard to say for sure though!
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What would you want to see? Repairs, mods, maintenance, random experiences/adventures? Haha let me know!
Love your videos man, Quick question Im kinda of freaking out because my ml 63 amg has been sitting in my garage for 11 months not started or driven because ive been overseas im going back soon for awhile but will be leaving again . How screwed am I ? is my truck potentially damaged ? i know I didn't top up the fuel to full, I did recently have a oil change before i left . But I'm panicking about gaskets ,seals , things drying up . You think in that amount of time i could be screwed ? like what should I do before hoing back and driving it? get an A service done through mercedes have them grease everything also ? should I throw in new fuel from a jerry can till about half tank at least before start up?
Thanks for the comment - to be honest I'm not very experienced with long term storage. I just know the basics like filling up your tank all the way and using a fuel stabilizer and doing an oil change right before etc. but I'm not sure exactly what to do if a car has been sitting 11 months without doing all that stuff. I think seals/gaskets will be ok since the engine isn't exposed to air and oil doesn't just randomly evaporate. I think adding new gas would help balance out any old fuel in the tank, and getting the A service certainly wouldn't hurt but i don't know if it's necessary. Maybe call MB and see what they suggest for a car that's been sitting for a year. Sorry I couldn't help more!
Do you still have it? Has it broken yet? How many miles do you get per full tank of gas?
Yep still have it, check out the other vids on my channel! And nothing serious has broken yet, just replaced the airmatic compressor at 140,000 miles. I get about 16 miles per gallon combined city and highway driving, give or take, so about 350 miles per tank.
@@monumentauto thank you for the response I’ve been watching these trucks and I’m tempted. Wow 350mi range is not to shabby.
Yeah I think mine has about 22gal tank so even though mileage is not great you can still go pretty far
@@monumentauto that in my opinion is the most important thing. It may be a gas guzzler but if it has range who cares if you have to pay a little bit more when you refill. I have a car that only goes 180 miles and it’s really a pain in the ass to have it as a daily.
Ooh yeah that’s pretty limited. I just looked it up and my ‘07 ML63 technically has a 25gal tank - I’ve put up to 22.5 gal in it when filling up. So 350 mi per tank should definitely be attainable w casual driving
I just picked up an 08 ML63 From copart only 66k miles, 1 owner and clean title. I bought it sight unseen. What should I look out for? and what maintenance should I do?
Nice! Check basic engine maintenance like oil, coolant, plugs, injectors, brake fluid, etc. and then watch out for air suspension issues, rusty brakes from sitting at copart. Of course there could be many things but those were things I had issues w when I first got mine
@@monumentauto thank you
How many miles you have?
About 145k right now
Seriously I love the video very clear and no music 🎶,
Thank you! Stay tuned for new video coming next weekend
Thanks for video. I'm looking really hard at a 2007 ML63 for sale by an owner here in my town. I love the look of these little SUV's and performance, but yeah, ....Mercedes dealership repairs or even dealership maintenance scare the CRAP out of me. The one I'm looking at only has 80,000 miles, and he ain't asking much for it. But I really don't know what hidden treasures await the new owner under the hood. Overall, would you recommend this used vehicle now that you've owned it for a year?
Yeah it can definitely add up. After 1 year, yeah I would recommend it but I’m not sure if I’ve gotten lucky or not. Actually, my car just developed its first engine issue in over a year - it started as cylinder 1 misfire and I fixed it by replacing the coil, but then it progressed to cylinder 7 and 8 and I replaced the rest of the ignition coils but it didn’t fix the problem…so hopefully w 80k miles you won’t run into stuff like this but it’s never guaranteed. Great car though! I do love it. If I had a boring reliable car idk what I’d do; it’s my hobby to work on my car so I don’t mind. Best of luck!
@@monumentauto - Thank you! I understand it's your hobby. Maybe even more than that? I grow VERY attached to my cars. I don't like to let them go. So choosing a car for me is like choosing a puppy. I know I won't let it go at the first sign of trouble. Thanks for the advice!
The same year jeep srt8 is more money than this…. I’m in the market for a fast daily driving suv and this ml63 looks nice
Wow really? I’m surprised because I bet the ML63 has better tech/comfort compared to the Jeep. Not a bad deal if you can either do maintenance yourself or have the money for dealer maintenance bc it’ll definitely be more expensive to maintain than a Jeep
@@monumentauto the only reason why the Jeep is more expensive is because they hold their value better. More reliable, maintenance is cheaper, and they're becoming collectors items. But me and you both know that the ML63 is the superior vehicle in quality and performance, I've owned a 2006 Jeep SRT8 Grand Cherokee and the ml63 is less common to be seen. Will be adding an ML63 at some point to the fleet.
Ah gotcha. And yes absolutely, would take an ML63 in good shape over an SRT8 any day.
Mercedes dealers nearly always get it wrong ... theyve no idea how to diagnose real issues...just generalise and change out entire system.. useless!
Yeah that’s what I discovered - now I take it only to an independent euro shop