I also get really obsessed with rate of fire. However my obsession is with getting it as close to the real gun as possible. People are often confused by my AKs super snappy trigger response, but sluggish rate of fire on auto.
I'm so sorry... why... why in the actual fuck... do you guys not have more subs??... I have been watching you guys for a few months now and never realized how many subs you have. either way, you have mine and I appreciate you guys making these videos... don't stop.. keep up the great work and thank you
Local Field we go to has a Field Limit of 25 ROF. I think this is a good step towards not having people over shoot someone. My .30 cal LMG is doing 12 ROF which works out great for me.
I try to go as realistic as is reasonably viable for airsoft. For instance. An m3a1 fires at around 7 or 8 rps which works for the real steel version. The airsoft version I can get down to about 10 or 11 which I think is better given that range, accuracy and velocity are significantly different. I also feel that a more realistic rps makes me a better player.
Hi guys, for me high rate of fire means good trigger response. How ever that does not mean I like to blast ppl with this rate of fire. Everyone's responsibility should be play with respect to other players. You guys put very valid points out there. How ever forgot one thing way this build exists and I'm speaking from my behalf. I building this vfc gun with all high standard parts ( btc mk2, lonex shel, lonex compression parts, sigatek 10:44.1 also pinion gear, r hop etc.) And all of that is to eliminate any issues that can effect my performance. The gun shouldn't dictate your game play performance is the player that should dictate all of that. So this my reason I'm doing this build. P.s. some aeg can archive 65rof or even more.
I know this is a two year old video but I play Speedsoft and people still think high rof builds equals faster trigger response which kind of is right but I run 16.1 Guarder gears, a Speed adjustable trigger, a Gate Warfet, and a high torque motor and with my trigger set at the shortest pull precock set and a good battery I can shoot just as fast as DSG builds with a 13.1 gear ratio and a high speed motor and my gun won't break from the added stress from a high rof DSG build I had a Bloomies DSG and I was constantly fixing something on it after the first 6 months of playing with it and I always had a back up which got used alot and my new setup has been going for a year and a half now and I've only done basic maintenance
My aeg is build to 32 rps... Magnificent trigger response. To that I have a mosfet with power limited after the first shot in burst(anything not semi auto) and it's limited down to 22 rps in auto with the limitation
I'm big into speedsoft, and I do agree that good aim > than tracing your bbs. If you have good aim, you can take out way more people than by spraying and praying.
So I'm a semi auto guy, saves ammo and better accuracy. I like snappy triggers so I can see, shoot, done. I also like being able to taptaptap infront of people of there running. But I usually only use full auto if someone isn't calling there hits of its raining and hitting there coats so I can just let them know.
Can you make a speedsim vid on balancing teams at open plays eventually? I've been noticing at my local field a lot of the younger players end up coming in smaller groups, and all get thrown together as their own team with the other singles and duos, while the groups of milsim players stick together and form the other team. This isn't a problem on a slower day with like say 16 to 20 players or even less but lately my local field has seen a big spike in Milsim teams showing up to do team training and what not. A lot of us are adults, but like a lot are also under the age of 18 and get pretty intimidated when the entire enemy team is geared out looking like seal team 6. Maybe this is just my local, idk just something to think about.
Personally I'm more of a semi-auto player, I'm more like the "One Shot, One KIll" kind of player so I don't really care about rate of fire... I only use full auto for long distances because BB's get effected more by external elements like wind, so you probaly need to shoot several BB's to hit someone 1 time... I try to conserve my ammo as much as possible... not because I'm cheap because they are not that expensive but because I try to go for a more realism like experiance... soldiers only carry like 7 mags, so I try to not use more then I carry on the beginning of the event... i Do have to say I use midcaps and not low/realcaps... I'm not that hardcore into realism :P but I don't use high-caps...
For full auto, id go no higher than 30 rps. Id still build 60rps just so i can go brrrrt in my back yard but id use the aster to regulate it to 30rps. In cqb (if theyballow it) you bwill need to take 2 teeth off your sectir gear and piston if you want to make it lighter. You will need an 11.1 and. 13:1 gears because you still want a torque motor. If you get a dsg it's so satifying going brrrrrrt because the sound it makes. Honestly in an ar15 platform, ill just use burst fire because it conserves ammo. That's thwo whole idea about burst fire. It's not about accuracy and never was.
You know those videos where the guy says no full auto inside and the dude is like it's not, then spams his trigger 15 rounds in a second? If a ref can't tell the difference between semi and full then your guns rps is probably too high. I mean how else do you get fast trigger response ya know? But then again mosfets can make it so your semi is snappy with a 11.1 but shoots 10 rps on full do to settings. I just rather stay away from indoor fields. There also an attitude and ego issue I've noticed with indoor field players
Just rewatching this vid, but the wanker's cramp just keeps on getting me. Can we get a hashtag on that? Of course we can. #wankerscramp all the way from the Netherlands. I know you have put the question aside, but what do you regard as minimal FPS required to be able to play Speedsoft properly in cqb? Thanks for putting out great content guys, keep 'm coming! 😎
just have higher fps and a light trigger with slower rps save money on bbs because with me max of 2000-2500 bbs ina day single compared to 5000-6000 full auto
Speed sim risks ruining airsoft for me... The way I see it, speed sim is just trying to to turn airsoft into paintball. There's no reason you need a rate of fire like that in a cqc game. I got lit the f up last week in a game by some speed softers. I ended up leaving mid day because of how much I had been shot. I get out twice in a match yet leave the field with 20 or so welts. Seriously what the hell? What's the point of semi only when some people have modded triggers that defeat the purpose?
As someone that plays both airsoft and paintball, I partially agree with you and partially don’t- airsoft is definitely more tactical and slower pace and paintball is all about speed, so it begs the question why don’t speed softers just play paintball? However I also think that they are not necessarily harmful to the sport as long as people don’t over shoot each other. In paintball all guns are semi auto ( some have a burst function called ramping but it only makes it easier to shoot faster so your finger doesn’t hurt the rate of fire isn’t actually faster) yet the guns shoot 10+ shots per second so getting shot over 20/30 times a day is typical and a lot of those can be at close range.
@CrazedCreationz dude i am new in returning to airsoft after the mass incorporation of hpa p* rigs. I play at an indoor cqb place and i gotta say I thoroughly enjoy the new blood into airsoft. Speedsofters are hilarious and very talented. Im running a bone stock combat machine and i played adequately with the speedsofters. I left the field after 5 hours of play, last weekend, with maybe 14 hits in all. I play aggressively and move, kinda like the speedsofters, but i hug the hell out of the walls and use cover to my advantage.
András Riczinger Not sure if you mean the gangster turn of the fun but playing outdoor if your shots are say curving left due to wind you can compensate by turning your gun in to the wind for a straighter shot.
I don't like that when you talk about HPA you call them p*'s.... Wolverine gen2's are way better than a p*, the only thing I like about p* is there fcu and the fact it has a display screen and toggle switches instead of screws to adjust
FPS Wolf Airsoft obviously haven't done your homework wolverines are smp's which means single moving part and has a single solenoid so way less stuff to break and way cheaper to work on
Bud Green I don't care if the wolverine only has one part. The Polarstar is way better and just about every single fashion and way. It has a higher rate of fire in the wolverine just does not compete with it whatsoever
Never heard anyone complaining about BBs price. Actually, it's the other way around, airsoft is generally cheaper unless you fall in the trap of buying new guns or upgrading them (=
Usman Ahmad the centres in the U.K. that charge 60 quid for 1000 paintballs are designed for rental player and the paint cost so much as rentals only use about 500-1000 a day and they are also paying for the price of their wuidpkent with the paintballs as entry and equipment is like 5 pounds. Walk on sites designed for regular players with their own gear usually charge 20-30 pounds for 2000 depending on quality.
I also get really obsessed with rate of fire. However my obsession is with getting it as close to the real gun as possible. People are often confused by my AKs super snappy trigger response, but sluggish rate of fire on auto.
Yessss, what did you do to get it snappy?
@@ryancrisp1842 if its a 15 rps gun its either electronically locked or not snappy at all
I like having higher ROF guns for the simple fact that the stream of white bb's that fly out of the end makes me giggle every time
Understandable
I'm so sorry... why... why in the actual fuck... do you guys not have more subs??... I have been watching you guys for a few months now and never realized how many subs you have. either way, you have mine and I appreciate you guys making these videos... don't stop.. keep up the great work and thank you
Aija Harris I know right?
Local Field we go to has a Field Limit of 25 ROF. I think this is a good step towards not having people over shoot someone. My .30 cal LMG is doing 12 ROF which works out great for me.
The 2 week pause reminded me that this IS the best YT airsoft show
well are there any others
As quickly as I can pull the trigger, that was an easy question.
That is the same answer I would tell soldiers when prepping for the promotion boards.
I try to go as realistic as is reasonably viable for airsoft. For instance. An m3a1 fires at around 7 or 8 rps which works for the real steel version. The airsoft version I can get down to about 10 or 11 which I think is better given that range, accuracy and velocity are significantly different. I also feel that a more realistic rps makes me a better player.
Hi guys, for me high rate of fire means good trigger response. How ever that does not mean I like to blast ppl with this rate of fire. Everyone's responsibility should be play with respect to other players. You guys put very valid points out there. How ever forgot one thing way this build exists and I'm speaking from my behalf. I building this vfc gun with all high standard parts ( btc mk2, lonex shel, lonex compression parts, sigatek 10:44.1 also pinion gear, r hop etc.) And all of that is to eliminate any issues that can effect my performance. The gun shouldn't dictate your game play performance is the player that should dictate all of that.
So this my reason I'm doing this build.
P.s. some aeg can archive 65rof or even more.
I know this is a two year old video but I play Speedsoft and people still think high rof builds equals faster trigger response which kind of is right but I run 16.1 Guarder gears, a Speed adjustable trigger, a Gate Warfet, and a high torque motor and with my trigger set at the shortest pull precock set and a good battery I can shoot just as fast as DSG builds with a 13.1 gear ratio and a high speed motor and my gun won't break from the added stress from a high rof DSG build I had a Bloomies DSG and I was constantly fixing something on it after the first 6 months of playing with it and I always had a back up which got used alot and my new setup has been going for a year and a half now and I've only done basic maintenance
My aeg is build to 32 rps... Magnificent trigger response.
To that I have a mosfet with power limited after the first shot in burst(anything not semi auto) and it's limited down to 22 rps in auto with the limitation
I'm big into speedsoft, and I do agree that good aim > than tracing your bbs. If you have good aim, you can take out way more people than by spraying and praying.
So I'm a semi auto guy, saves ammo and better accuracy. I like snappy triggers so I can see, shoot, done. I also like being able to taptaptap infront of people of there running. But I usually only use full auto if someone isn't calling there hits of its raining and hitting there coats so I can just let them know.
I agree. I also like to shoot semi auto only.
one of the funniest episodes, recent cub loving your content keep it up :)
Can you make a speedsim vid on balancing teams at open plays eventually? I've been noticing at my local field a lot of the younger players end up coming in smaller groups, and all get thrown together as their own team with the other singles and duos, while the groups of milsim players stick together and form the other team. This isn't a problem on a slower day with like say 16 to 20 players or even less but lately my local field has seen a big spike in Milsim teams showing up to do team training and what not. A lot of us are adults, but like a lot are also under the age of 18 and get pretty intimidated when the entire enemy team is geared out looking like seal team 6. Maybe this is just my local, idk just something to think about.
Personally I'm more of a semi-auto player, I'm more like the "One Shot, One KIll" kind of player so I don't really care about rate of fire... I only use full auto for long distances because BB's get effected more by external elements like wind, so you probaly need to shoot several BB's to hit someone 1 time... I try to conserve my ammo as much as possible... not because I'm cheap because they are not that expensive but because I try to go for a more realism like experiance... soldiers only carry like 7 mags, so I try to not use more then I carry on the beginning of the event... i Do have to say I use midcaps and not low/realcaps... I'm not that hardcore into realism :P but I don't use high-caps...
For full auto, id go no higher than 30 rps. Id still build 60rps just so i can go brrrrt in my back yard but id use the aster to regulate it to 30rps. In cqb (if theyballow it) you bwill need to take 2 teeth off your sectir gear and piston if you want to make it lighter. You will need an 11.1 and. 13:1 gears because you still want a torque motor. If you get a dsg it's so satifying going brrrrrrt because the sound it makes. Honestly in an ar15 platform, ill just use burst fire because it conserves ammo. That's thwo whole idea about burst fire. It's not about accuracy and never was.
I MISSED AUNDREY no homo i just got my first airsoft gun recently after usin rentals for like 2 yrs i got an aw hi capa
10:27 I disagree. It’s easier to move your hand rather than focusing your energy on your finger. Idk it works better for me
35rps on my ssg and 45 to 50 on my polarstar
If your gun shoots straight the only thing you need is semi auto trigger response
Can you do a video on this. If you could have a helmet, why helmet with anything on it, what would it be. Like no limitations, any custom helmet.
E House - Gun Gamers but team Wendy's are so damn expensive, if you were going with a replica helmet what brand would you go with
E House - Gun Gamers I have a small head so I shouldn't have a problem
I try to keep my ROF as close to real steel ROF for the same weapon
What's your opinion on the tm mk23 fully upgraded for a speedsoft pistol
You know those videos where the guy says no full auto inside and the dude is like it's not, then spams his trigger 15 rounds in a second?
If a ref can't tell the difference between semi and full then your guns rps is probably too high. I mean how else do you get fast trigger response ya know? But then again mosfets can make it so your semi is snappy with a 11.1 but shoots 10 rps on full do to settings.
I just rather stay away from indoor fields. There also an attitude and ego issue I've noticed with indoor field players
Just rewatching this vid, but the wanker's cramp just keeps on getting me. Can we get a hashtag on that?
Of course we can. #wankerscramp all the way from the Netherlands.
I know you have put the question aside, but what do you regard as minimal FPS required to be able to play Speedsoft properly in cqb?
Thanks for putting out great content guys, keep 'm coming! 😎
I got a Milsim loadout, then I use speedsoft aggressiveness with real steel room clearing
Good thing you're room clearing with real steel instead of your airsoft
Evan S fucking shred the plebs, no remorse, “we’re playing Airsoft, you want tackle me and then stab me” bunch of casuals
Need Andy loadout vid
just have higher fps and a light trigger with slower rps save money on bbs because with me max of 2000-2500 bbs ina day single compared to 5000-6000 full auto
Rof is nice for woods
Can u guys do a full review on the arp 9?
The phalanx block A1 shoots at 75 rps. seems good to scare the shit out of my friends.
I was the 9,700th subscriber
Are butterfly triggers banned in gza Connecticut?
lol "fun switch"
Am I the only one who didn't know that Seth Rogan was into airsoft?
Speed sim risks ruining airsoft for me... The way I see it, speed sim is just trying to to turn airsoft into paintball. There's no reason you need a rate of fire like that in a cqc game. I got lit the f up last week in a game by some speed softers. I ended up leaving mid day because of how much I had been shot. I get out twice in a match yet leave the field with 20 or so welts. Seriously what the hell? What's the point of semi only when some people have modded triggers that defeat the purpose?
CrazedCreationz speedsim is the name of the video series speedsoft is the name of the play style.
Henry he thanks for clarifying.
E House - Gun Gamers I can definitely see your point. The admins at this particular field are a big part of the problem.
As someone that plays both airsoft and paintball, I partially agree with you and partially don’t- airsoft is definitely more tactical and slower pace and paintball is all about speed, so it begs the question why don’t speed softers just play paintball? However I also think that they are not necessarily harmful to the sport as long as people don’t over shoot each other. In paintball all guns are semi auto ( some have a burst function called ramping but it only makes it easier to shoot faster so your finger doesn’t hurt the rate of fire isn’t actually faster) yet the guns shoot 10+ shots per second so getting shot over 20/30 times a day is typical and a lot of those can be at close range.
@CrazedCreationz dude i am new in returning to airsoft after the mass incorporation of hpa p* rigs. I play at an indoor cqb place and i gotta say I thoroughly enjoy the new blood into airsoft. Speedsofters are hilarious and very talented. Im running a bone stock combat machine and i played adequately with the speedsofters. I left the field after 5 hours of play, last weekend, with maybe 14 hits in all. I play aggressively and move, kinda like the speedsofters, but i hug the hell out of the walls and use cover to my advantage.
30k asg 12.65:1 13t ss binary
Omg Eric looks like a dad
Anyway, can someone tell my why people turn their guns sideways while shooting?
András Riczinger Not sure if you mean the gangster turn of the fun but playing outdoor if your shots are say curving left due to wind you can compensate by turning your gun in to the wind for a straighter shot.
Can u do a giveaway on one of your pistol builds
Yea one of Andre's (or how ever you spell his name) pistols that are custom built go for about $1000. That would be a huge give away
E House - Gun Gamers I want build a tm handgun is it cheaper to buy and replace parts or build from the ground up
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Y'all need chairs
Andre should grow a beard
Scvmmy she is transgender
OP didn't know about this at the time of posting, give them a break
I don't like that when you talk about HPA you call them p*'s.... Wolverine gen2's are way better than a p*, the only thing I like about p* is there fcu and the fact it has a display screen and toggle switches instead of screws to adjust
Wolverine Inferno Gen2 shoots better than a Fusion Engine?
Matt TheSilentPew I like it a lot better, its open bolt also but it works with any bucking
Bud Green dude the Polarstar works way better and is more reliable...
FPS Wolf Airsoft obviously haven't done your homework wolverines are smp's which means single moving part and has a single solenoid so way less stuff to break and way cheaper to work on
Bud Green I don't care if the wolverine only has one part. The Polarstar is way better and just about every single fashion and way. It has a higher rate of fire in the wolverine just does not compete with it whatsoever
I always use at least 30rps on all guns. Anything lower just seems slow.
Airsofters moan about spending $15 on 2000 rounds when 2000 paintballs are $45
dead horizon one hi-cap can carry 300-500 rounds.
Never heard anyone complaining about BBs price. Actually, it's the other way around, airsoft is generally cheaper unless you fall in the trap of buying new guns or upgrading them (=
Or when 25 rounds of 12 gauge buck is $30... Or when 500 rounds of 5.56 is $104...
Usman Ahmad the centres in the U.K. that charge 60 quid for 1000 paintballs are designed for rental player and the paint cost so much as rentals only use about 500-1000 a day and they are also paying for the price of their wuidpkent with the paintballs as entry and equipment is like 5 pounds. Walk on sites designed for regular players with their own gear usually charge 20-30 pounds for 2000 depending on quality.
50 rps plus
7.5 55 swiss isnt that expensive
70 rps fuck it
Ever heard of wankers cramp
trigger finger practice,... COD
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yes I can confirm your first congrats now ask yourself does anyone really care?
jk bro if you want to be first your first so good job
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