Xu Xin vs Wang Chuqin | MS | WTT Macao 2021 (SF)

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  • @ericye9762
    @ericye9762 2 роки тому +25

    Xu Xin is getting old day by day, But he can still perform a great show to us.
    Congratulations to Wang Chuqin, a core of the future of Chinese national team.

    • @yehenry2281
      @yehenry2281 2 роки тому

      Chinese younger players still have a good competitiveness

  • @alvinho5188
    @alvinho5188 2 роки тому +28

    WCQ is really the future, hope he can play in Paris 2024!

  • @ted-7613
    @ted-7613 2 роки тому +21

    WCQ is unstoppable. Hope to see him play in Paris.

    • @ttime9947
      @ttime9947 2 роки тому +7

      FZD and Wang Chuqin for singles

  • @anatolyalexeenko9232
    @anatolyalexeenko9232 2 роки тому +30

    Even though he lost, Xu Xin is still amazing

    • @dubsbarry9963
      @dubsbarry9963 2 роки тому +3

      He's my favorite! Classy player. There's always The New Squad though and Wang will be a classy champion too

  • @diggalehd966
    @diggalehd966 2 роки тому +59

    Wang Chuqin is definitely already among the best players in the world
    As of right now, I'd only put Ma Long and FZD above him
    He's already shown it in the last tournaments
    I'll bet on him winning the final

    • @ttime9947
      @ttime9947 2 роки тому +11

      He's a beast. Imo better than LYJ, Moregardh and Harimoto

    • @uchihadayne6506
      @uchihadayne6506 2 роки тому +7

      @@ttime9947 he has been far better than any of the non Chinese you mentioned since he emerged from the junior league. Ranking doesn’t tell you everything, look at his overall game and the potential for improvement. His only issue has been his mental control/toughness as he loses his temper. It’s hard to tell whether he really has that under control yet since he hasn’t really been tested a lot, but I’m curious if he’s really worked on that since being banned temporarily. Also, to put moregardh in the same conversation as those other 3 is a joke. He needs a lot of work to be consistently competitive

    • @sukhwindergill4407
      @sukhwindergill4407 2 роки тому +2

      he beat ma long

    • @jagodiving
      @jagodiving Рік тому

      @@uchihadayne6506 WC has the same playing style with LYJ, but LYJ done a little better than him right now..

  • @frans.nadeak
    @frans.nadeak 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you. Short but complete video for the whole game.

  • @mauronapsuciale3720
    @mauronapsuciale3720 2 роки тому +11

    Wow, all three top players in the world are out before the final. Quite the tournament so far.

  • @shenzhenpingpong
    @shenzhenpingpong 2 роки тому +20

    Xu Xin owned. His backhand weakness was ruthlessly exploited. In game 5, Xu was reduced to pushing with underspin on his backhand, he couldn't RPB consistently on the table. Then the only game left for Xu is to drop the ball short repeatedly in the hope that Wang gives Xu a slightly long ball for Xu to apply his forehand loop. Didn't happen. Wang's short game is excellent too.

  • @janvoss5548
    @janvoss5548 2 роки тому +22

    I have to say, that I kinda expected Wang Chuqin to win. If you look at their last meetings in the China Super League finals that game actually looked quite similar to this one. And after his perfomance in the WTT Show Event in the end of 2021 it was clearly visible that Wang Chuqin had improved a lot.

    • @yehenry2281
      @yehenry2281 2 роки тому +1

      OMG. hat off, you are a super fan who even know lot about Chinese league...

    • @janvoss5548
      @janvoss5548 2 роки тому +1

      @@yehenry2281 Thank you. I try to follow as much events as possible. Afterall Wang Chuqin is one of my favourite players. That's the reason I knew that :) In general I actually don't watch the Chinese Super League. From Europe it is actually not easy to watch, because of the immensely limited broadcasting.

  • @mustafavatansever7564
    @mustafavatansever7564 2 роки тому +4

    That's all about new less spinny heavy balls. It is easier now blocking games and playing spinny games less effective. So Zhang Jike's backhand flick to first ball easily gets countered. That's hard to get used to new playing style for Xu Xin and Zhang Jike. However Ma long has succeeded in adapting.
    For the future of table tennis, ball weight should be decreased, so ball can gain more spin. ITTF should not forget that table tennis is not a shotting and blocking game, it is spinning game.

  • @euyie8738
    @euyie8738 2 роки тому +20

    I think Wang Chuqin is a really good player. However it seems to me that top players like Ma Long, FZD and Xu Xin were not playing at 100%. There were too many unforced errors and I find it weird seeing Ma Long and Xu Xin unable to make quality returns to Wang Chuqin’s serves more than they used to. The way and the frequency Ma Long and Xu Xin looked at their bats and at the roof of the stadium each time they fail to return Chuqin’s ball are also pretty unconvincing. Perhaps they want to help talented junior players to climb up the world ranking to help with the draw in upcoming tournaments

    • @PraisePrayPeace
      @PraisePrayPeace 2 роки тому +4

      Completely agree

    • @ttime9947
      @ttime9947 2 роки тому +2

      You know who Wang Chuqin is?

    • @lenchev
      @lenchev 2 роки тому +10

      Hmm. This is a considerable theory. But honestly: I think we should consider updating the image that we have of our table tennis heros. Unfortunately, their time appears to be over soon. Such multiple decades long histories of successes à la Timo Boll ain't possible in a huge table tennis society like China, with such a pressure from the up-and-coming. (In China there are more people that play regularly table tennis than Germany's population!)
      Honestly: I can't imagine sportsmen of this caliber to be giving away wins! Either it's something dictated by chinese TT-politics or the youngsters are becoming just...better!

    • @denisliske8855
      @denisliske8855 2 роки тому +8

      Xu xin is in general not really confident against lefties. Since Ma Long is more the counter top spin guy and not a really agressive return player like Fan ZD and more controlled, he probably gives WCQ more time to breath

    • @vasilvasilev7938
      @vasilvasilev7938 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly this, I also feel some matches are fixed.

  • @SamuelMarcatto
    @SamuelMarcatto 2 роки тому +5

    Ma Long, FZD and Xu Xin beaten by these young boys. Excited to see the next tournaments and Paris 2024

  • @dominikkkk6402
    @dominikkkk6402 2 роки тому +2

    Very smart game by wang. He knew he was better in by BH to BH rallies and was very good in keeping the ball short so that xu couldn't open with his FH and then got into the BH rallies which he dominated.
    What made it even tougher for xu was that wang is a lefty too which made it easier to BH rally because it is tougher for righties to play BH long line all the time than it is for lefties to play BH across the table.

  • @hesymoon8616
    @hesymoon8616 2 роки тому +26

    The young generation of china's men table tennis is looking good right now. Some of them also already beat the world no 1,2 and 3. I mean they have to get ready for olympic 2024. It's ridiculous cuz of how many player that china has? 😅

    • @martinjames1548
      @martinjames1548 2 роки тому

      This is a little early, if he can win the national games this year, it will really become possible.

    • @hesymoon8616
      @hesymoon8616 2 роки тому

      @@martinjames1548 yeah, but from this tournament we can see their potential to dominates table tennis in the future

    • @vasilvasilev7938
      @vasilvasilev7938 2 роки тому

      beat? I think this is fixed, its obvious Xu Xin stopped playing after the first game. Ma Long played at 30% as well. They want to push the young generation.

    • @kevintran1191
      @kevintran1191 2 роки тому +1

      The young generation is good but has a big problem that you can’t pinpoint out. None of them can beat world top choppers in many occasions. The older generation like Ma Long, Xuxin can trash choppers.
      Also, younger generation is good against their own china team but has trouble with European players

    • @jayjaywng6772
      @jayjaywng6772 2 роки тому +2

      Even they can beated top3,but not mean they can beated a foreigner players,just like Zhou qihao.

  • @Skrippykrotangler
    @Skrippykrotangler 2 роки тому +2

    Impressive handling of Xu Xin. Wang's power and arc from both wings mid and long distance seems to be unmatched at this moment. He is definitely my favorite to win now, especially with Ma Long and Fan Zhendong losing to Chuqin and Yingbin respectively. Xu Xin looked a little tired maybe, and his RPB got exposed badly in this one. Also, that shovel serve that Chuqin and Wang Manyu have been using seems to have their opponents guessing alot at how much backspin and even sidespin is coming. I like using the shovel serve as well at times, and I reckon it would be especially effective against a player who is different handed than yourself..eg. righty vs. lefty.

  • @stephenrampersad6302
    @stephenrampersad6302 2 роки тому +2

    Where can I get a table like that to buy?

  • @spaceinvader384
    @spaceinvader384 2 роки тому

    WCQ has ALL the excellent capabiliies to challenge FZD shortly. Think the extra bit he needs is a cool head but seen he's getting that way lately. The refreshed Chinese CNT will be another global dominance again. No foreign players here, Covid effect?
    By the way, WTT video has improved a lot on camera angle, speed, court contrast and resolution. Ball speed, placements are best seen this way. Shooting at table ends only shows serving/wrist actions (but toss often dubios) and ball directions but not clear on short/long pushes, lightning speed, trajectory etc. All of which are actually the most important part of the game. Love the upgrades, keep it this way.

  • @danikhan5185
    @danikhan5185 2 роки тому +8

    Wang Chuqin, new number 1😂👌😎

  • @hungpunwilsonwu7001
    @hungpunwilsonwu7001 2 роки тому

    Marvellous !

  • @taumax
    @taumax 2 роки тому +3

    Seemed like XX had problems receiving and just bring inside the table in general. Usually XX is solid there. It seemed his only chance in this match was to get the rally into a far off the table counter loop battle.

  • @Byungohlee39
    @Byungohlee39 2 роки тому +1

    바닥과 테이블이 검은색이라 어두운 느낌인데 붉은 테두리가 화려하게 만들고
    공이 잘보여서 집중이 더 잘되겠네요.

  • @niklaskras5498
    @niklaskras5498 2 роки тому +7

    i dont like the outcome but totally deserved. but what happened to xu xin? injured or equippment change or whatever? bad returns, weak backhand and very inconsistent. wang on the other hand played pretty well. no dramatic mistakes just a couple of smaller things

    • @starking1187
      @starking1187 2 роки тому +1

      xu xin has been declining a lot recently. Losing liu dingshuo, xue fei, liang jingkun and many more internal competitions. And yes, it is definitely because of age

    • @jjgodslayer1772
      @jjgodslayer1772 2 роки тому

      He's getting to old for the playstyle he has nutured an refined, he can no longer keep that playstyle up

  • @yujianou4476
    @yujianou4476 2 роки тому +4

    I actually like this camera angle, make it easy to see the ball speed and both of the player's footwork. For example, it's much easier to see how much faster wcq backhand is compare to xu xins. It'll be nice if we can see the arc of the ball though

    • @Shrimp0kUgel
      @Shrimp0kUgel 2 роки тому

      Yeah I agree. The only issue is that it's hard to see how high the ball goes over the net, which is quite important.

    • @grigorijefimovic1087
      @grigorijefimovic1087 2 роки тому

      at fist i really hated the side angle but it's true that it shows some things better. it is good to have both camera angles, each shows something better and worse than the other. like the side angle doesnt let you appreciate how far left / right the ball goes (even though it is improved by being more bird perspective side angle).

    • @jjgodslayer1772
      @jjgodslayer1772 2 роки тому

      That is why corner angle is best

  • @MrEspadachin
    @MrEspadachin 2 роки тому +1

    Too bad, the cameras have to be behind the table, not on the side.

  • @user-wj5uo2dh3h
    @user-wj5uo2dh3h 2 роки тому

    Загляденье а не матч! 👍

  • @ivanvikingBass
    @ivanvikingBass 2 роки тому +4

    Xu xin looks so unmotivated 🤔

  • @Nick-ms4fo
    @Nick-ms4fo 2 роки тому

    Ванька МаЛонгом стал играть и всех наказал!) Красава! Видать хорошая досточка в правильных руках)

  • @habibihabibi2565
    @habibihabibi2565 2 роки тому

    I am rooting for WCQ rn... his emotion is way more stable somehow...

  • @7AppleFan7
    @7AppleFan7 2 роки тому +4

    I go for WANG CQ

  • @michellewong6729
    @michellewong6729 2 роки тому +1

    Congratulations to Wang Chuqin, the Best !

  • @shuchengchao
    @shuchengchao 2 роки тому

    Wow Wang is truely in his best form

  • @weilovebo
    @weilovebo 2 роки тому +2

    楚欽漲球了,拿下許昕 滿意外的 現在比賽心態好很多

  • @akibsarkar-7462
    @akibsarkar-7462 2 роки тому +1

    Terrible camera angle...can hardly see the height or spin in the serves

  • @SH-zk6bs
    @SH-zk6bs 2 роки тому +7

    The generation shift is coming.

  • @ttime9947
    @ttime9947 2 роки тому

    Why the crowd cheers more for Chuqin?

  • @TheMthuber
    @TheMthuber 2 роки тому +4

    Again bad angle, especially to fully enjoy xuxin magic. You can only guess the sidespin and how high the ball is flying

  • @shashafanw6484
    @shashafanw6484 Рік тому

    When players get older, the speed of reaction gets lower, and the seemingly unforced errors are actually true failure points. They are about 9 years apart. It's about time for the transition. China Team has trained the younger generations : The best way to show your respect is for you to beat him. This makes the team stay strong after years.

  • @tiagocatossi
    @tiagocatossi 2 роки тому

    Os becks do XX estavam lamentáveis, não fez um ponto em 5 sets!

  • @Dragon_Rider777
    @Dragon_Rider777 2 роки тому +8

    If Xu Xin has the agility and physiques, his FH can outperform WCQ's FH. Unfortunately age takes a toll

    • @haehnelgregory1504
      @haehnelgregory1504 2 роки тому

      I'd say mileage more than age in XX case... All these doubles games make him older than 32

    • @dubsbarry9963
      @dubsbarry9963 2 роки тому

      @@haehnelgregory1504 agreed on mileage. When you cloud walk like Xu it has to take a toll eventually. If he's done, I sure feel blessed to have watched him

  • @bangkitpurnawanto4748
    @bangkitpurnawanto4748 2 роки тому +9

    Xu xin not seriously play. So many ball go away

    • @rafli.1326
      @rafli.1326 2 роки тому

      Di ig wtt ada yang komen "pengaturan". Kalau menurut om gimana?

    • @mbahmoh6292
      @mbahmoh6292 2 роки тому

      Final ktemu CNT, menyemangati yang muda.

  • @forestdong601
    @forestdong601 2 роки тому

    Why no foreign players? Only Chinese for WTT Macao?

  • @aysegulcansetyldz6941
    @aysegulcansetyldz6941 2 роки тому +3

    Please get back the old angle.this is so baddd

  • @user-df6qb6un4y
    @user-df6qb6un4y 2 роки тому

    Top sben

  • @tabletennisfootage1073
    @tabletennisfootage1073 2 роки тому

    Congratulation! Wang Chuqin

  • @Shadow000007
    @Shadow000007 2 роки тому +1

    Donkey of the day by Wang Chuqin at 0:25 :P

  • @ttime9947
    @ttime9947 2 роки тому +5

    Wang Chuqin really had some problems with the spinny loops in his backhand

  • @hkbrightshadow4225
    @hkbrightshadow4225 2 роки тому +4

    Wcq has very good footwork and speed, this isn't xu xin's day, too much errors returning the short balls

  • @Mischgi
    @Mischgi 2 роки тому

    Xu Xin's weak backhand was decisive in this match

  • @ju_revnoir
    @ju_revnoir 2 роки тому

    There was no girls cheering like it's a Jonas Brothers' concert when I used to play table tennis 15 years ago... definitely born too early.

  • @KYchiu402
    @KYchiu402 2 роки тому +3

    Xu Xin was playing passively

  • @WuFei0707
    @WuFei0707 2 роки тому +1

    This tournament... So many unpredictable end results... LGY who is always losing against FZD, won against XYP, but XYP won against FZD. That's weird... FZD in bad shape?

    • @hdluktv3593
      @hdluktv3593 2 роки тому +1

      Definitly, watch the video and you see how bad he played!

  • @robk7002
    @robk7002 2 роки тому

    WCQ taking no prisoners!!

  • @planshmobilev7562
    @planshmobilev7562 2 роки тому

    HOW SAW THOSE NAILS ))) PROBABLY THEY ARE THE CAUSE OF THIS VICTORY )))

  • @happybuck202
    @happybuck202 2 роки тому

    Was it serve failt wang? It seems to served on the table...

    • @boblar
      @boblar 2 роки тому

      I must agree with you Happybuck. So many of Wang's points are won from what appears to be a foul service, over the table.... this match, and previous ones. Surely the umpire and assistant umpire have noticed this? In many instances, the ball is struck up to 100mm inside the end line. Fair play to Xu Xin, he didn't raise an eyebrow.

  • @mr.commander3947
    @mr.commander3947 2 роки тому

    this grueling combat is favored the young gunner---wang, especially he is a lefty player which really help him to gain advantage during an intense brawl with the opponent due to the missed judgement of backhand instead of forehand for -----wang. why?? because only 1 out of 10 players is lefty. very unique.
    This year as of 2022, wang has many chance to beat and lift up his final hurdle challenger----- Fan zhendong. you will see.
    FAN is much more an emotional player, on the other hand, Wang seems more likely a bit more optimistic guy, with this type of characteristic attribute will raise the odd against FAN zhendong whenever they meet.

  • @elitefamilyparkour
    @elitefamilyparkour 2 роки тому

    Time for the oldies to make space for the young generation. Wang and mini FZD can stomp every other player in the world already but they need practice against non Chinese players.

  • @ongnarukami4451
    @ongnarukami4451 2 роки тому +1

    Why does Xu Xin keep using backhand

  • @DQ2121
    @DQ2121 2 роки тому

    Xu Xin had a lot of really bad service receives. He kept on giving easy balls to WCQs backhand

  • @user-no5vv3yc6m
    @user-no5vv3yc6m 2 роки тому

    Ваня Щукин периодически над столом подает, в первом сете раза 3 подал и так далее. Или мне одному это кажется?

    • @user-tb6io8no7w
      @user-tb6io8no7w 2 роки тому

      Да, тоже заметил. Видно, что Ксю Ксин слил матч

  • @JACKSPARROW-od7ey
    @JACKSPARROW-od7ey 2 роки тому

    Xi xin is good but i feel when he hit a smash its not that strong , although its good but not do not provide that satisfaction on the shot

    • @ttime9947
      @ttime9947 2 роки тому

      When he did a smash in this video?

  • @bobmalack481
    @bobmalack481 2 роки тому

    Love Xiu Xin, but he is too much a forehand player, leaves half the table wide open..like Wang Hao RVP style better. Robert at 67.

  • @sonicorigin-music9472
    @sonicorigin-music9472 2 роки тому

    this camera angle is crap....

  • @VADIBOY007
    @VADIBOY007 2 роки тому +2

    Xu XIn played very very BAD. Because used only back hand which the can't use. He needs to learn from Wang Hao - king penhold RPB. Xu Xin not level Wang Hao.

  • @yehenry2281
    @yehenry2281 2 роки тому

    OMG. so many females fans scream out when Wang got each point

  • @siukeungwan6127
    @siukeungwan6127 2 роки тому

    Xu Xin lost to his own backhand !

  • @petermaier3832
    @petermaier3832 2 роки тому +2

    Ma and XU should retire - their great time is over

  • @vkolesnikoff
    @vkolesnikoff 2 роки тому

    Can't got what happens. XX doesn't show his play, it's obviously. The same thing with ML and FZD.
    All they are playing at 30-40% of power.
    What about this game - XX lost pretty all backhands shots, there weren't extremely hard balls, rather usual

  • @DLee-bu6fk
    @DLee-bu6fk 2 роки тому

    Xu xin didn't want to win.

  • @respekt200
    @respekt200 2 роки тому

    Xu back hand didn't work 90% of the time.

  • @elitefamilyparkour
    @elitefamilyparkour 2 роки тому

    Those long fingernails tho :D

  • @vinaykumar-lr9hc
    @vinaykumar-lr9hc 2 роки тому

    This is the worst angle to watch. Please switch back to the original angle.

  • @user-uv4fx9eb5v
    @user-uv4fx9eb5v 2 роки тому

    В общем всю старую гвардию вынесли!

  • @takoyakimannto
    @takoyakimannto 2 роки тому

    きょきんはやはりフォア打ちが魅力
    回り込まずにバックドライブ使って自滅

  • @stefanreuter9626
    @stefanreuter9626 2 роки тому

    OK, now I figure it out!!! The Chinese government has command their top players to lose against the youngsters, so they can distinguish themselves. Jep, that the only way to explain, why all of the top players are out of the tournament yet 😉🙃

  • @juanvalerianor.espanol8048
    @juanvalerianor.espanol8048 Рік тому

    Prime Xu Xin:(

  • @uyoku
    @uyoku Рік тому

    xu xinがアウェーに感じる🐑

  • @GhanaTableTennis
    @GhanaTableTennis 2 роки тому

    One sided encounter.

  • @geraldcarino5009
    @geraldcarino5009 2 роки тому

    Winning in china then choking at high pressure leagues hahhaha

  • @lapicerocorrea
    @lapicerocorrea 7 місяців тому

    Xu too much lazy

  • @niltoncarlos3551
    @niltoncarlos3551 Рік тому

    Lots of ilegal serves from Wang.

  • @Warfare891
    @Warfare891 2 роки тому

    Их народная игра , а играть не умеют . Позор

  • @renefinch
    @renefinch 2 роки тому

    Too many unforced errors at that level,caused by the Jab!