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Last video was demonetized and flagged by youtube for 'hatred towards groups or individuals'...and I have no idea why. I clearly say 'this isn't anti-christianity'. I've made similar videos that are more intense and they're monetized. So I edited it, removed all references to any church denomination, f-bombs, the words "spiritual abuse", "cult", and reuploaded it in 4k. Do me a solid and hit like so we can get this video caught up. UA-cam is weird.
here's what the last video got flagged for - ua-cam.com/video/R1IDQyJUG8Q/v-deo.html
Baba booy!
Did you delete the comments on your comment or did UA-cam censor them
@@steakdriven baba booy!
Twitter, Facebook, UA-cam be cenosring shit like crazy. They've even censored Trump, or any truth of what's been going on. I don't think your video was offense at all. They are just power hungry. Whatever that doesn't fit their ideology goes. I would look at alternative platforms as free speech won't be here forever.
I wondered where it went. I saw it fully and it was really good. You should link it in the description hosted elsewhere.
Little Girl: Ra-she-ka-bababa! New house New car!
Jesus has left the chat.
Dead af lol
abra kadabra, razz muh taz, scooby doo doo doo, ive got a new car for you !!!
she is trained to fool others look at the confidence
@@Gizziiusa lmao
Jesus has left everyone, not just the chat.
That isn’t Christianity... that’s straight up heresy.
@@jasonwalsh6032 improve how? If you mean a nice car and zipcode, then he never promised that
God wants the best for us spritualy and financially. But the maim message of the bible is not blessings. The gospel is the main messge through Jesus we are saved.
“For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life."
John 3:16
the full gospel is about repentance, living for him, and obeying him putting aside our desires to Christ. Blessings will come but as well as trials. And God will asure us his fruit through His Spirit.
"But the fruit of the Spirit [the result of His presence within us] is love [unselfish concern for others], joy, [inner] peace, patience [not the ability to wait, but how we act while waiting], kindness, goodness, faithfulness."
Galatians 5:22
@@jasonwalsh6032 Jesus fucking Christ man ! get real.
Yes inquisitor this group right here
THIS WAS MY CHILDHOOD. Pentecostal hell! i don't ever remember a time where i felt that all the nonsense was real or factual but i do remember being terrified of all the grown men putting their hands all over my head , shoulders , stomach and back "praying" for me to speak in tongues . i used to lean forward and lay my head on the pew in front and pretend i was praying so i could take a nap and everytime i did that i'd feel 10 pairs of hands on me i would cry because i didnt like it and they would think my tears were from THE LORD . they would try to force me to run around the church like a psychopath. ughhh the memories. gag.
"hugs"
I was always falling asleep. And now that you mention it that touching even though seemingly innocent is probably why I hate being touched now, like it freaks me out.
My mom made me go to a pentecostal church when I was a kid. I never liked it. When I was in high school, I never bought it. In college, I refused to go anymore, although we also weren't going during to other problems too. I'd never go back, it was boring and a waste of time.
Wow, that was awful! I remember my mom telling me when she was a girl, around eight, her grandma decided to try out local churches, as she wasn't too keen on her Catholic upbringing at the time - don't know what the actual reason was. They went to a Pentecostal church, but as soon as the mass begin, she said everyone went crazy in there. She remembered one woman fainted on the floor, people started shaking and convulsing in the aisles, shouting and speaking tongues - she freaked out and started crying, and my grandma agreed with her, so they left. They went to a Mormon church and Baptist, tame by comparison.
But to this day, it was a negative experience for my mom and she has this irking to Penteconstal people.
This is NOT Christianity, Orthodox Christianity does not condone this rubbish. Orthodox Christianity's spirituality is like a candle, people can see it, you can't hear it (not preachy), and you can fuel it as much as and as little as possible. This is the real faith. You take it as you wish
that church is the definition of “using gods name in vain”
You mean this "church", the orthodox understanding of the "Church" as the body of believers and the body of Christ is essential for the communal relationships that are fundamental to proper (and serious) Christianity. This is not the church
That’s perfect.
Every religion.
Pfft! ALL churches manipulate the notion of 'god' to suit their purposes.
Ouch
When she starts asking for materialist things, i cringe so bad
I thought it's an MLM video
Literally the opposite of what Jesus preached, to lead a simple life and to avoid materialism. This is satanic
It's to get people excited and seed the idea in their minds.
@@OzzyTheGiant I must admit, it is kinda impressive how quickly some mega-church pastors got the Bible twisted into the Prosperity Gospel.
@@OzzyTheGiant learn what satanic means.
There’s a difference between that and this childish bs.
"Religious narcissists" is the term that totally nails it!
Exactly what I was thinking. People should watch more Sam Vaknin videos.
The whole speaking in tongues thing always killed me. I went to a church(for a while) where people would run around, act like they are fainting, and yelling out in tongues. The bible says that no one will speak in tongues without there being someone there that can translate.. Not ONE TIME did anyone stand up and say "I know what that dude just said!". Not one time. Not even the pastor.
"Tounges" were actual languages in the book of Acts. Not gibberish that nobody could understand. There were people present who heard their own languages and they marveled at this miracle of God.
Acts 2:5-11
King James Version
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
I LOST it when Josh said: "If Heaven is full of these people, I do not want to go." HA HA HA!
holy laughter 😂😂😂😂
Down it is. That's where the fun people go!
That’s the exact same logic that my parents used to quit Jehovah’s Witnesses when I was a kid.
Oh, me too. Me too...
Yeah, but in heaven there is no more sin. That would make anyone bearable. The most important thing is that the Lord Jesus Christ is there... Forever.
Imagine if Jesus came back as a human all over again.
I wonder which of these churches would try to murder him first.
Omg Right?! Comment just broke the webbernet
I would be first in line calling "off with his head!"
@@wetiot cute.
you mean we human have the ability to murder god (jesus)?
@@kyliechen5263 ...We killed him last time he was here didn’t we?
I stop going to a church when they talk about new houses and cars. Jesus didn’t give away houses and cars
don't forget about when they mention praying for an Xbox. Like Jesus had Xbox stocked around.
@@brandon-qc1ul lol
@Kenny Popsicle
If Jesus were here today he would be telling Christians they need to *give away* all that kind of stuff.
He told the rich young ruler at Matthew 19:18 to sell all he had and give the money away to the poor. But it wasn't even about the money, it was about willing to be extreme in one's actions.
Lol these people have ruined speaking in tounges and the reality and power that Jesus gave us. Jesus said if someone ask for your shirt you should give them your jacket too. These people are out here making it seem like u have to get the baptism of the Holy Spirit within a time point. Many of these cults actually teach you how to fake it. How upsetting! It took me like a year and it came on me in the most unexpected moment bringing a joy like nothing else I knew it was real. No force no timeline just asking the lord for his beautiful gift he promised to give to those who ask for it. Seek the real truth people. It is never wrong to ask questions this young man asks. All it shows is he truly cares.
Quite the opposite he encouraged people to share
God is apparently very insecure if he can’t handle a kid’s questions.
spot on haha im dying
God isn't insecure, the people who run these cults are.
@@zbj4240 spot on. Pretty much every question you have about God has been asked and answered at some point, you just need to know where to look for the answers.
That clan/tribe mentality always gave me the creeps. Never liked it. Never will. I prefer to stand on my own. Whatever other people do, as long as they're not causing bodily harm or trauma, more power to ya. Just leave me out of it.
That girl is just mimicking What she sees... when she grows up, she’ll be like “please, don’t remind me of those days”.
It's obvious she's just making it up as she goes along.
That's definitely how I feel about those days
It’s bloody nuts
That or they may have succeeded in brainwashing her
Luckily it's all recorded and will be brought up by her friends for her entire life.
Abusers never want you to ask questions.
Exactly...
Yep.
You are 100% spot on. Thank u for sharing.
This is somethig that people should def talk about more. These cults ruin everything for other people.
These "cults" of pentecostal ruin children's lives.... I know, I was one of those children.
I definitely agree this needs talked about so much more!
You’re talking about ALL Christianity and religions in general right? Or just the sects you disagree with?
I think its more than pentecostal. I was non denominational and it was pretty much another word for penecostal light... i agree this stuff does need to be talked about.. my life and childhood were pretty much ruined by this shit.
@@roems6396 There are lots of people who follow religion for their own good. I'm talking about those who manipulate others to get what they want. I dont think Christianity as a whole is manipulating people in any way.
You sir, are a victim of religious abuse!
Keep speaking out sir!!
Yep he’s a victim 😞
He actually said it best. “They are sheep in a church of wolves.” Dang man! I wish more believers were aware of that!
Yea. Its from the Bible. "Wolf in sheeps clothing." But not gonna lie, still kinda cool
Jesus(Yeshua) declared that everyone should be aware and avoid false prophets. In this day and age they are running rampant.
@@jimparsons9454 and it's a ton of those.
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yup..
as long as you receive the Holy Spirit through faith in Christ youre good...
only the true gospel saves...
not works based gospels..
and not churchianity..
the church "system"
or going to "church"
I love your “disowned-the series” makes me feel more normal about getting out. Thank you❤️ you’re not anti-Christian, just anti-crazy/abusive
@Vikram Parahoo I'm both, so... yes one can.
Same here
@Vikram Parahoo You worded it badly if that's your point.
@Vikram Parahoo Remember Big tech and political correctness will stop you from being able to think and process these things. They will do it under the guise of offensive behavior and making you feel evil for offending or even insulting the sensitivities of others. Big tech and corporate HR departments already have all these policies and practices in place.
@Vikram Parahoo stupidity is the worst drug. And you’ve OD’d.
Idk if I’d call myself religious today but I was raised as a Lutheran Christian and it’s so weird seeing this charismatic stuff because none of that happened at my church. For me, it was all very down to earth stuff. We’d go in, sit, stand up and greet people, sing an opening song, listen to people read passages picked out from the bible, sing, then listen to a teacher explain the readings to the children, then listen to the pastor who would talk about it for an hour, then sing, then the pastor would lead a prayer, then we’d sing a closing song and it was over. I always liked the fact that we got to eat cookies after service. There was also no peer pressure in my church, you weren’t ostracized for not being a Christian and no one at the church thought you were possessed for not speaking different languages. One of my atheist friends attended once, they were very friendly to him. I think my experiences in church were overall beneficial, I got to meet new friends there and I learned a lot about how to be a good person. Churches should probably strive to be more like the one I attended instead of doing whatever the heck was shown in this video. I’m sorry you had to go through what you did. Cheers, mate. 🍻
No, it's the fundamental idea of there being a magic man in the sky that we give responsibility to. That's the problem. This is the only life we get, and there is no cloud wizard.
When you said' "this is holy laughter " that unlocked a memory I totally forgot about. I grew up in a Pentacostle church, and they would justify kissing... called it a "Holy kiss" When I was young, I thought it was fine. But now... I cannot believe men would get away with kissing random women by calling it a Holy kiss...
On the cheeks with both men and women is biblical. Romans 16:16
Omg...
On the lips like making out? Was it a fake christian sex cult?
Phew that little girl is really triggering. I was taught to do this. Encouraged to take the microphone and "prophesy". It wasn't just seen as cute, it was seen as being "on fire" for Jesus, which is THE best thing a person can do. I was conditioned from a young age to see this as normal. And it absolutely is indoctrination.
Self Immolation for jebus.
Actually that teaching is a false teaching. And it pissed me off this things even exist
yeah its really sad.. @Venus
where are you at now with all of it?
Child indoctrination is a form of child abuse
@@matssoto2022 that statement is kinda vague. Bcoz education is a form of indoctrination as well
What's funny is this isn't Christianity. This is the prosperity gospel...
Oh, it still falls under Christianity. Just a really retarded and bastardized version of Christianity.
This is a crippled religion. Missing an arm or a leg. Attaching itself to something pure.
@@fitybux4664 Just because they claim to represent Christianity doesn't make it so, and you can cry "no true Scotsman" all you want, but there are many scenarios in which people or groups of people claim to represent something and then act completely differently from what they claim they represent.
C G 💯💯💯
It's not far off at all
My mom always talked about God to me but never did it in a fear based way. I never felt like God was going to be upset with me and at 35yrs old I’m shook to realize kids are still growing up like this. It’s disgusting.
The weaponizing of religion is a serious issue and I commend your efforts to bring it to light.
It's so they can get confession money and the people at the top get rich and buy their planes
well, people have been doing this ever since ancient times, have you forgotten all the sh1t happened in the Middle Ages and similar?
Religious organization in USA would have been probably eulogized those times, not considered heretic like other forms of Christianity
Those poor children, this is abuse.
i know right. so sick and damaging. they will need therapy as adults.
There is a growing movement not to raise children as religious, because child's brain is not mature enough to understand complexity of some teology. Religion is just a social club from medieval age. Nothing more. Bible is just ancient literature, same as Illyad and Oddisey.
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@James T Shhhh Baba 🤫🔇
God is pretty strict about his views on child abuse, he says for someone who abuses or offends a little one, it would be better for them to have a millstone tied around their neck and be thrown into the sea,
Christianity should be taken reverently and correctly and not pushed or inposed just offered and only in the right manner with wisdom and humility
I completely understand you, I grew up in a similar cult named Jehovah's Witnesses. They don't speak in tongues or do miracles but they'll let their kids die for refusing blood transfusions and make your family act like you are dead when you leave. It takes balls to leave religions like these, I'm glad you did it.
Congrats on being an ex-JW. Do you follow Telltale too?
@@sapphocalypse Yeah, love his content. I also watch a lot of Lloyd Evans/John Cedars
@61 Cygni Those docs are heroes, yeah.. completely fucked up that they would let their kids die for the religion
@61 Cygni That means those Doctors are even more awesome than I tought, real life heroes.
I had a friend who’s parents were Jehovah’s witnesses when I was about 7-8, they randomly up and left one day, I wonder how she is often and hope she’s doing well and is happy. I always remember her being upset when we did Christmas and birthday stuff
Thanks for sharing. I had an experience with a Pastor during a youth group outing. I asked a question and he cut me down in front of the other students. Today, I preach when given the opportunity and I always stress the importance of asking questions. Don't feel bad if you don't know... don't feel like you SHOULD know, even if you've been coming to church for 50 years. And if you ask me, and I don't know, I simply say "I don't know.", we are always learning. It breaks my heart how far modern churches have strayed from Jesus Christ.
Respect this
You're not alone bro. Sounds to similar to my life. Even the grandparents thing. Now I am thirty seven, emotionally stunted with abandonment issues and an interiority complex as a daily baggage to manage. I'm sorry, you have been through anything like my experiences but thank you for saying it out loud. It feels good to know there are others who innately recognize the fallibility of their indoctrination and have the psychological fortitude to stand against your own self preservation just to stay honest with yourself. To say I admire that is an understatement. I know that means little from the texted characters of some random in the internet but it means everything thing to me. So thank you. Thank you
Wtf, I’m Christian and that seems more like the Devil’s church 🤣🤣🤣
I can't see any resemblance between this bullshit and the protestant church in my town.
@@hasselnttper3730 exactly
@@hasselnttper3730 well no i legit see barely a difference
@@AizakkuZ The Norwegian Protestant church is probably the most liberal church in the world, so the cult in this video is like a completely different religion to me. The priest that baptised me and did my confirmation is openly gay, and the church has no problems with that. The church also allows gay marrige. I think women can be priests, as well. And the priests don't shy away from questions, and they won't answer with a Bible verse, either.
Christianity is bad same level.
I grew up in a church. And ended up calling out some “cultish” behaviors in my church. But the stuff you showed is next level of Cult. Seems almost demonic. Glad you made it out.
That's because it is demonic and very dangerous
I like pointing out how demonic and pagan these fuckers are all the time. They really hate that shit since they fear Satanic and pagan stuff so much, and it's amusing to see them get worked up over it. It especially works since I went Baptist/Christian that was once raised under their weird Pentecostal shit, which just seems to bother them even more.
@@redlethe8679 I like pointing out how what big tech and corporate America are doing under the guise of stopping offensive behavior is worse than North Korea and Mao
@@rogerc23 I also like pointing out how Donald Trump won the election because anyone who thinks Biden was anywhere close to as well-liked is an absolute brainlet.
@@rogerc23 go watch Yeonmi Park's videos about North Korea, and stop talking nonsense. You're just repeating yourself under every comment. 🙄
I had to wear dresses, go to church constantly and watch people fall down in fits, speaking in yelling weird non language, and I was freaked out.
I'm sorry for what you went through.❤ My mom was a Christian and my dad agnostic. My dad taught me to think for myself and question religion and everything. He was born in 1920 so he was ahead of his time. Thank goodness for that. I made up my own beliefs and I'm happy 😊
@@jale96191920 someone telling someone to think for themselves is RARE. In those times Christianity was dominating. Today it’s decline along with its Theology.
Fall in line or gtfo. Sounds like corporate culture.
Remember Big tech and political correctness will stop you from being able to think and process these things. They will do it under the guise of offensive behavior and making you feel evil for offending or even insulting the sensitivities of others. Big tech and corporate HR departments already have all these policies and practices in place.
Yes the Church has become a Corporation, look up unChurching
Nah, it's a cult. They like to brainwash people.
They're cut from the same cloth.
@@fong1949 well my pastor always said that you should read the bible for your self and make your own interpretation of it
I let my boyfriend listen to the little girl proselytizing, & he said, "So, is she worshipping Shakira?!?" 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha!!!!!
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hahaha
I don’t get it.
🤣 Lol
This is so creepy. All I can think of when they are pretending to speak in tongues is the movie The Exorcist. Gonna be hard to sleep tonight
I had to endure this too, I come from a Pentecostal background, went to these events where they would preach “so many blessings to come!” Meanwhile i was 8 our family on the brink of homelessness and on food stamps.
My lovely Christian family kicked me out of the house at 15 because I walked in the house listening to the devils music on my walkman. Reshikiabababa!
Damn
if you listen to Shakira, i will kick you out
I hear you!
They’re not true Christians.
@@clairefisher3132 pops is now a pastor of his church 20 plus year later... tell that to him and his followers.
I went to my friend's pentecostal church once.. after about half an hour of the pastor screaming his sermon into the microphone all of a sudden everyone was running around the church and there were people at the front crying on the ground trying to receive the holy spirit and speaking in tongues. It was so frightening and awkward I didn't know whether to laugh or run away and hide
I was just thinking of this while watching... I went to a friend's pentacostal church during high school. Everyone including her started acting frantic and crying on the ground and speaking in tongues. I was just standing there feeling like maybe I need to try to join in or something. But it was just so uncomfortable I couldn't do anything.
@@L2PlayRunescape I've been to a few different kinds of christian churches growing up and even a catholic church but never have I experienced a spectacle like the pentecostal church. I feel like if they would have found out I'm agnostic they would have persecuted me like I have demons in me or something just because I don't believe or do the same as them.. but man they got a lot of backwards rules. Glad to know there are other people out there who have experienced this too and feel the same way
Haahaaa haha 😄
Now imagine growing up in this. Every Sunday this what you experience, AND you are taught that to doubt any of it could mean you would burn in hell for all eternity. That was my childhood.
Im sorry you experienced this... that is not how thing are supposed to be...
I'm a systems engineer with a heavy left bend and deep interests in cults and stuff like that. The mixup of your video's between the everyday IT bullshit and this deep struggle is very "real" for lack of a better word. I wish you the best.
Thank you for this video, Josh! I went through this exact same thing as a child. You are so NOT alone in this. I'm so proud you used your platform to speak about this issue. 👍
Dude this shit resonates with me so so so so much, this was exactly my child hood. I was never able to do the in tongues thing either, and the holy laughter, falling down, kids screaming, it not being my parents but my grandmother, ants and uncles....even the damned gameboy thing. Everything...all of it. I, was probably the kid 4 seats down from you who didn't wanna raise his hands either. Welcome to the dark side....our cookies are so much better.
I was born and raised christian too, same train as u went through but lighter. When I went to a mission trip to Africa I got to see demons manifest in real life, and how they got crazy when you mentioned the name of Jesus. So yeah, the supernatural exist, but church make you guiltrip just like U say. God created us to enjoy life, but not misuse certain things that is bad for others, that's it. Then if U go to hell for doing A B C that GOD created for us humans, IS PURE BULLSHIT LOL.
It isn’t only Pentecostals. I regretfully raised my family in a church where it was taught that tongues was of the devil... and my kids came home from camp with false guilt (the sin of enjoying Harry Potter) and false purity teachings (girls must wear a T shirt over their swimsuits in order not to stumble a brother) (but the boys wore only trunks, nothing covering their torsos) and I didn’t know about it until years later 😕 I don’t have many regrets but this is a biggy. My kids got warped and distorted ideas of who God is. I wish I’d raised them almost any other way. It warped me enough and I started in my 20’s...what must it be for kids immersed in this from birth
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I'm grateful I went to a normal small town church that just preaches straight out of the bible & does lots of volunteer work in the community. They even started the only non-profit thrift store & food shelf in town.
Yeah my parents used to love to hit me with the old "Your exaggerating" or "Misremembering things" or "It wasn't that bad, don't be so dramatic" trying to do anything to make me doubt my own memories. Which I found out later is a form of mental abuse btw.
I had something like this happen so often with my parents. My mom's favourite lines would be, "That never happened," or, "It didn't happen like that."
I spoke to her about a particular topic, which she turned around and denied with a, "That never happened," so I showed her the video recording my parents had made that included it, which was also the only reason I knew about it in the first place.
Same here.
Rock on! I so admire your courage and standing up to your grandparents! Even though I never had to go through half of that crap because I didn’t have to go to church more than a few times in my life and it wasn’t that kind of church, strangely, I can relate to your fear of always wondering if I was doing the right or wrong thing and who would be judging me socially and parentally. It’s an awful way to grow up. I never felt truly accepted by anybody, and even learned later that maybe my parents were just going through the motions and really didn’t know how to accept anybody, including themselves.
Thank you so much for making this video. It inspires me to make one on the same subject. I grew up in cult religion and it destroys your ability to work out normal life choices without those choices bringing up fear of possible damnation. At 40 I'm still working through it.
Man, I’m a Christian and I agree; what you’re talking about is *not* anti-Christian. I know of Christians that came from the same sect.
Same.
People need to have sympathy and empathy for people who are in the process of questioning their indoctrination. It is not easy and you can really feel like you are evil and going to hell for it or for starting to think with your own mind and thoughts. By this I mean anyone who has worked for big tech or corporations in America or gone through the school system.
Is there any mark on your body or something like that which makes you Christian?
As a Baptist who was raised under these freakish Pentecostals, I agree 100% with what Joshua Fluke says about them.
@@paragkadam2169 exactly, we're all human before any shitty religion.
All I heard was yodling..
I subscribed for this. Thanks for venting what many of us feel. Glad they get their bluff called. More power to you.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS
This isn’t Christianity. I have creep chills. Real growth is when you finally make boundaries in your life, quiet your mind and go within. At least that is what I chose to do for myself and my life has never been the same 😀. Instead of mentally surviving, I have thrived in ways that have blown my mind.♥️ Have a great day everyone...
May you keep in peace and continue on the path of self reflection ,I too have taken the essence of truth outside organised group think ,
You're amazing. I hope you keep the peace you've found. Much love 😊 There's more of us outside than in the organisations anyway.
Your comment is very inspiring to me. Thank you for sharing.
You are beautiful.
So refreshing to hear someone say every thought and negative emotion I have ever felt about this particular kind of church, thank you! My parents started taking us to an evangelical/ charismatic church when I was about 7 and I wanted to vomit every time I heard someone speak in tongues, I would purposefully fall over so the creepy man would stop trying to “wash me with the Holy Spirit”...and the bullshit “prophecies” and talk about “the devil’s interference”, the crazy ladies dancing in the aisles of the church, and people referencing any sort of glimmer on your hands as “angel dust
The anger and resentment goes deep, and after a lot of counseling I realized it was ok to walk away and follow what I believed instead of what I was guilted into thinking was “right.” You are not alone and so happy for you for walking about from a toxic situation
Whew, this just triggered so much. I'm sorry for what you've been through, and great job getting out and speaking out.
This is absolutely nuts. Thank you very much for sharing. Thumbs up!
When she said "Sha ke ra ka babababa"
Shakira : "WTF"
Lol!
baba baba baba shee . . . p
I went to a Pentecostal church as a teen until the youth pastor demanded that teens come down to the front to kneel and have the pastor pray over them. He kept demanding that more should walk down to the front. Then he said, “If you don’t come down, you don’t love Jesus.” He said it over and over.
I didn’t want to go down. I didn’t feel the need to. It made me so angry, I walked out and never went to church again.
I came to know Jesus (Yeshua) on my own. And I don’t go to church to this day. I have a relationship with him. And I feel so blessed.
I went through the same thing. I've never really talked about it or knew how to put it into words. I know it doesn't count for much but thank you. This video and some others have given me a way to share my story for really the first time
You express that you feel like no one cares, but I appreciate your ability to be vulnerable on the internet. I've been in situations that while they may not be the same, they are similar, and hearing your experiences help me feel less alone. I hope that through youtube, it's in a way therapeutic for you, and you can one day find peace with the things you've been put through. You carry yourself so well dispite being impacted by these experiences. People won't understand unless they've been through it, no one seems to know compassion or empathy anymore. Thank you.
Bro, this is EXACTLY the shit I went through growing up in the church. Mad respect for sharing your thoughts and voicing your anger about it. I was depressed for at least a decade afterwards from dealing with all the guilt and shame that they program you with. This shit should be illegal.
Exactly
Took decades to realise Christianity isn't about guilt and shame. I hope you can too.
@@Odo-so8pj Thanks Tammy. To be clear I don't have a problem with religion itself, I have a problem with people using it for personal gain at the expense of their congregation. I'm still a spiritual person that believes in a higher power, I just don't need people like this to tell me what to believe and how to practice that belief.
@@dustinh5177 You don't need them especially not this kind of thing. . An interesting fact is, there are as many Christians out side these institutions than in I have my bible and faith that's what counts. Narcs infiltrate these groups too easily and profit off them twist everything. Sheep amongst the wolves. Stay happy my friend.
@@Odo-so8pj check out non stamp collector. It will help you.
Using "I love you" to manipulate you is the lowest of the low. True love means accepting and celebrating people for who they are.
Love can also include bringing people to the right path. For example depressed people or addicts, so they can live an at least normal and if possible, happy life.
In general love means a strong emotional attraction and wanting the loved one to become happy.
true love ckmes with boundaries
Gaslighting
They only love you if you do what they say
Got to love the "you're special" angle too. Like, if I'm so special, why don't you ever listen to anything I have to say? LOL
Have recently found your channel...been enjoying your various videos. Keep it up!
This stuff certainly rings a bell with me.
Thanks for this.
I cant believe you came out of all these life experiences with such a strong desire and skill for critical thinking.
I keep thinking the same thing and wondering how that happened. I keep wondering if there was at least one person in his life that was a good influence or that taught him critical thinking skills.
We are out there, I did too and it ruined my family. It’s very sad. But I am strong, I am intelligent, most importantly I am happy.
@@brittanylevinson741 same here.
Happened to me as well. The people who come out of these churches are usually the ones who ask to many questions/overthinkers
I came out of this sort of life, too. Its not that we werent critical thinkers, we just couldnt supress it for our entire lives. It was always going to happen. We were going to figure it out...someday.
"He who knows my name and follows me shall be delivered a new house and a new car."
- Jesus Christ, 30 AD
A-women! 😂
Lmao
@@CanadianRM4 I died 😂😂😂
@@CanadianRM4 This is so accurate. 🤣👌
The prosperity gospel in all its glory.
Thank you for sharing. I watch alot of your content and happy you sharing this. I am spirtual not religious at all at this point. It horrible you had to go through all of this for no reason!
Good video. More stories like these need to come out.
You can do it too just repeat after her "Shikihabababa" 😂 😂 😂. So ridiculous and sad 😔
Yes that was cringe-worthy.
Isn’t that the whole intro to that Crazy Frog song from about 10 years ago?
Speaking “in tongues” is non-lexical hallucinative blabbering. If it’s not, plis present syntax, grammar and vocabulary.
“It has no intelligible structure cuz it’s holy.”
Yeah? What about Aramaic? It is “unholy” because it’s intelligible? Jesus would be sad to have you disparage his mother tongue...
All hail raptor jesus! Shitikihabababa habibasheepaba
BuT sHe'S sPeAkInG iN tHe ToNgUeS oF aNgElS1!1!1!
My old church was like this ... I learned that this is not the true church but an imposter. It’s toxic and spiritual abuse period. I came through it all and still have my faith in Jesus. He is true and won’t let you down like mankind will.
How is tht not true church tho? Ppl keep saying this yet i see no examples of true over fake churches
Sometimes you don’t know the true thing until you experience the counterfeit. It’s a process that starts with your faith in God.
So is the flying spaghetti monster god. He is real and wants to save your soul.
Please open your heart to him.
I thought Jesus was dead.
i'm so sorry you had to go through this, your story reminds me a lot of stuff on r/raisedbynarcissists . I thought i had a dysfunctional family but when i went NC for a bit with them they realized that they can't manipulate me and opened communication. i think i was lucky. it's refreshing to see that you broke the cycle and got away and are so much better for it. also, the little girl that "speaks in tongues" ... that stuff sounds rehearsed or made up. i mean when you're a kid if you want to "blend in" you start imitating others. so it could be that most of the kids in your church did, you were just too honest to do it.
Thank you for sharing. This is so therapeutic
"Shh! The devil can hear you!" when trying to ask how to speak in tongues... that part made me laugh out loud 😂 absurd!
I guess the Devil must be omnipresent in their cult.
I didn’t realize the devil understood English. Quite possibly it doesn’t! Tongues. Oh FFS! Amazing isn’t it? 🙄
The Devil can't understand you when you speak in tongues...neither can anyone else LMAO 😂
😂😂😂
Thank you so much for this. I relate to your experience so much and it makes me feel like I’m not alone. Keep sharing your message, people need to hear it.
Thanks for putting this together. Well done.
The irony of the church saying stay away from judgemental,negative people...
Phariseeism basically.
My dad was (still is) an evangelical pastor, I feel the whole “this is weird, I’m not into this” sentiment, along with the familial and community ostracizing that goes along with expressing those feelings. I remember always being stressed out my whole childhood, I developed severe anxiety, and a touch of depression. I hate having to keep my parents at arms length, and get a tinge of jealously when I see other adult children have close relationships with their parents. I don’t want to say growing up in an ultra religious home ruined my adult life, but it has stunted my mental and emotional growth.
Omg. Same. Plus I have 9 sibs. We're all like shell shocked.
Same. My dad is an evangelical pastor too. I still read the Bible and attend another church that isn't my fathers. I like the church I go to but it has caused some issues in our relationship.
yes my late father felt much the same way, he was the grandson of a lay preacher of an obscure sect which only exists in the USA now - it was in Ireland at the time. My grandfather started a political revolution instead and my father, whilst religious enough to be fairly serious about God would not go near a church of any kind.
@@XxAlex530xX fck'em. Should have cared more about his son/daughter.
I am so sorry
Thank you for sharing your honest experiences! I’m sorry you had to go through all of that and I hope you know the family doesn’t just exist in blood. :)
I grew up in the UPC (pentecostals) and listening to your videos is helping me realize more of the problems I experienced growing up.
The little girl speaking in tongues - "The devil can't understand you so he can't interfere with you"... Yeah sometimes I trip him up too by speaking French instead of English lol
Hahahah i don't know if you grew up in this but what he's saying is legit and the lack of logic used to make me so mad as a kid .. so Satan can hear me speak english but he doesn't have the power to read my mind.. and yet can project evil thoughts into my mind? Ok. Got it.
She's right though. Satan can't understand her. No one can. Because it's not a real language, it's all nutty Gibberish with no meaning. That god she's praying to doesn't even know what she's saying, nor does she.
LOL
I thought Christian cannot speak dialect. Meaning all Christian should speak Latin?
@@QMLara Or Greek, or Aramaic.
“Speaking in tongues” sounds like the mocking of a mixture of foreign languages.
Being given the gift of speaking in tongues isn't soeaking jibberish, it's the gift of being able to speak in others languages, in order to spread the good Word to them or prophecy. These false churches have it all wrong. God isn't the author of confusion.
@Jermaine Dielingen perfect breakdown and explanation of these verses. I wish all of these mislead Pentecostals could understand this as you've written it. You should share it with them everywhere that you can. I had an older lady explain it to me similar to what you have, about a decade ago and it really puts it into better perspective and makes it easy to see these churches for the frauds they are. Their "holy laughter" is demonic and they will have to answer to God one day for their foolishness. God bless.
No, per linguists it's just the sounds of the person's own native language , just bits and pieces repeated in random ways. Recordings show no evidence of any complexity enough to convey any meaning- definitely these people are not speaking an actual language they never studied. It's literally babbling like a baby. If you are curious look up "Glossolalia"
Is actually not it's a gift of the holy spirit that Paul receive if you read acts then you understand
@@hahna77
The god of the Bible is absolutely the author of confusion. I find it fascinating when Christians day this, when the Bible is so full of contradictions and falsehoods. Not to mention that god SPECIFICALLY SCATTERED AND CONFUSED HUMANS at Babel because he didn’t want them to accomplish anything. 😂
I'm sorry you had to go through this when you were younger. You seem to have grown into a tremendous young man. You are helping others now, and I'm very proud of you; keep up the excellent work.
You're truly a strong person.
So sorry you had to go through what you did. But you're the gentlest, bravest person.
I’m a Christian, but i feel so sorry that you had to go through these experiences. I like that you explained that not the religion itself is like this. I don’t know if you care, but I’ll pray for you and hope you find healing if you haven’t already🙏🏽❤️
@James Harden Not all pastors are in it for the money (although it is a job). When I was growing up I went to several churches and several of the pastors were completely unpaid. And the ones that were paid were basically given just a small income. They all had second jobs. Obviously this isn't the majority of pastors, and its even less prevalent now since there are so many "megachurches" (that's an issue in itself; pastors can't really "pastor" thousands of people can they? They're basically celebrities that nobody knows on a personal level)
"I'll pray for you" You're going to talk to yourself to make yourself feel better because you feel sad he isn't part of your cult? I don't get it.
@@fitybux4664 *tips fedora*
@C Xtzin It is definitely not human nature to tithe, but I know at least I would give whether I felt obligated to or not. Selfishly, it's an amazing feeling to help someone! To see the look of gratitude on their face or hear relief wash over them because they didn't know how they were going to be able to pay their bills that month and now they can take a breath... Its an incredible feeling to know God used you to bless someone... On the less selfish side, We (or at least I) believe that everything I have belongs to God, so when I feel like God is telling me to give to someone, I'm in no position to turn Him down, because it's His to begin with. Even though I work to earn things, He is the One who gave me life and made me capable of work. He gave me parents that taught me how to work, a mind capable of understanding things, etc
@James Harden That is definitely a common problem unfortunately! I think there are several reasons a pastor wants to grow a church and not all of them are selfish reasons, but i agree that too often they cross the line and focus too much on raising their numbers and not enough on "pastoring" their members
That recording of everyone speaking in tongues sounds like a house of madness. "Be Still And Know That I Am God".
@Ski Mask Samurai Yes. Any lie is wrong. Especially blatent ones. Satanism is wrong too.
@Ski Mask Samurai makes them one and the same.
Speaking in tongues is a gift from the Holy Spirit. Please read your Bible some more. God bless you brother.
@@Janet-wy2io I suggest you go back to the bible and learn what was meant by tounges. It is not gobbled garbage. It was each hearing Gods word in his own language clearly spoken. a clear understanding in your own language of Gods word, not another language but that of your own birth. What they are doing is lying. We were warned about Deceiving spirits.
@@Janet-wy2io NIV Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language?
New Living Translation
and yet we hear them speaking in our own native languages!
English Standard Version
And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language?
Berean Study Bible
How is it then that each of us hears them in his own native language?
Berean Literal Bible
And how do we each hear our own language in which we were born?
King James Bible
And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
New King James Version
And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born?
I appreciate you making this video and bringing awareness to this awful cult!!! God save these children. 🙏🏼❤
Thank you so much for sharing this. To make a video like this takes a lot of bravery and strength. A lot of your videos have helped me prepare for my job search and I enjoy the content you make. I am glad I came across this particular video as I have seen a some of my friends lead miserable lives as a result of cults like this. This awareness is greatly needed in our society to educate people about those who prey on vulnerability. Never change man, you are an awesome individual!!
Shakirabababa devil cant understand it
Devil: nobody understands gibberish anyways
thank you so much for exposing this. not enough people talk about it and it’s so damaging to people.
Thank you for standing up for those who are abused by “false religion”. You have every right to speak the truth.
I keep watching these because my experiences with my family and religious history (pentecostal) are super similar. But you word the thoughts that I couldn't get out better than I could. I like these videos.
I didn’t know that u could be schooled on how to speak in tongues. Silly me, I thought it was a gift from God.
Funny how they never speak a real language, like French, Japanese, Aramaic.
@@bellycurious yes, just gibberish...the Apostle spoke in LANGUAGES that people from those regions where it was their 1st language, understood.
There is real speaking in tongues that is from the Spirit and there is fake, a lot of fake lately..
@@advancedair6536, there is no such thing. If you want to speak in tongues you should learn a language, and that takes a lot of work and time.
And don’t forget to give 10% of your income directly to church. I can relate a lot with this video.
I'm Christian and I went "church shopping" to see if i could find any churches that i might fit into. And when I was checking out churches and stuff I found that they are really pushy about donations and it blew my mind when i found out that members paid a church tax. Like I totally get donations its needed to pay the bills and such but to have members wire money directly from their paychecks is a little too much lol. Churches are greedy as fuck.
10% gross income at that. Because "God gets his first"
Fr 😂😂 fact tht ppl do it is unbelievable
Hoping your mental health is okay brother! That was a whole lot that you had to go through and a lot of confusion with it. Glad you realized your self awareness and dissociated with all that.
I’ve been watching your videos on and off all day and have commented in support. But I couldn’t remember how I came across your channel. But I just saw this video on my feed and just now remembered that I watched this one all the way through LATE last night when I couldn’t sleep and forgot or didn’t realize it was you! Now I made the connection. Since I watched this one my YT feed kept suggesting more of your vids. Yes, this is “culty!” Ive been a born again, “spirit-filled” Christian for 30 years but I can clearly say that the stuff you went through was culty.
Little Girl: Ra-she-ka-bababa!
Me: GRATATA-TAH
omg thats what i was thinking hahahahahaha.
😆
Bryan Silva
Summoning daemons are you? Smells like heracy to me!
almost like Rihanna: "ram pam pam"
she may do a music career later
People talking in tounges, screaming, crying, shouting, falling out on the floor, running in cirles around the church and falling on people smh as a child I could see, this shit was weird 😂
Thats nothing to do with Christianity. Unless you're looking at old testament possession or mental illness.
It is weird and is a gross misinterpretation of scripture designed to impress on the people around you that are are spiritual and they can’t disagree with you on things because “the Holy Spirit gave me this message”. So to disagree with the babbling human is to blaspheme the HS. It’s all mind control. The mind control comes in when they place the guilt on the “unbeliever”, “you disagree with me because you’re just not spiritually elevated enough to understand the deep meanings behind this important message the HS gave to ME and not you.” It’s just dumb. These churches are leading these children into spiritual darkness and they make no apologies, however, they will be held accountable for their actions. What these people did to you was NOT from God! I hope you can restore your faith and comfort in Him, because these denominations/cults are satanic and have slipped right back into pagan worship which is straight from the devil himself. He’s a sneaky bastard!
Matthew 7:21-22
21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’…
Matthew 18:1-6 ( pay close attention to vs 6).
1 At that hour the disciples came to Yeshua, saying, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”
2 And He called a child to Himself, set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, “Amen, I tell you, unless you turn and become like children, you shall never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whoever then shall humble himself like this child, this one is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in My name, welcomes Me.
6 “But whoever causes one of these little ones who trust in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck and to be sunk in the depth of the sea! 7 Woe to the world because of snares! For snares must come, but woe to that man through whom the snare comes!
You too can see past the bullshit
Your awesome Joshua. keep up the good work. Great Content!
I was raised early on in a Pentecostal church, which I'm sure is the denomination you're referring to. Man, what a nightmare that was. You're spot on with all the guilt. So much guilt. I once was passionate about drawing pokemon as a kid. Loved it. Then the church started saying that pokemon were satanic and I was made to feel so much guilt about all my drawings that I threw them all away because I didn't want to go to hell. They really push the horror of hell. It really traumatizes you. Took so long to get over. I really feel your pain. So sorry you had to go through a similar experience.
Holy crap dude... this shit is crazy man! I'm sorry you had to go through this... It's really shocking
Bahahahabab shsukitirita bashka !!! Woah !
Lol
Is that what "speaking in tongue" Were?
I've heard someone says "speaking in tongue" But never know what it means
😂😂😂😂😂 baboski 😂😂😂
Sounds like something Kate Bush would say :-)
Shahal mahala
As a former Christian who's struggled all my life, this is so accurate, thank you for sharing
Wow I can relate to everything your saying. I left a similar church and I know what it's like to be disowned by the people you love. Thanks for telling this story.