The slight delay between Sean's reading the last ability of the Leviathan and his reaction...priceless! Also, holy mother of Eldrazi, that Leviathan is insane.
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Conceptually, can you imagine how badass it would be to summon that Stormtide Leviathan? Just standing there then you make an incantation then all the sudden an earth shaking bellowing noise comes from the ocean, then woosh! A gigantic monster that dwarfs the town you are in with a tidal wave that floods every land for miles and miles. And that's just how he makes an entrence. And then someone uses "Smite the monstrous" or something then the lands all dry up with happy flowers.
He said he was doing it in response. Which means he does it before the spell resolves so if he had that card the -1/-1 would have resolved first before the +1/+1 and hexproof so the rhino would have been a 6/6 hexproof and merely died
+DXXP at 20:16 you can see he has 8 lands on his field. Through the editing we might miss it, but maybe he played the land before he played the leviathan...We don't see his board again the turn he plays it
This has to be my favorite episode thus far. Sean and Josh just played off each other so well and the game itself...holy shit, that game. 20 out of 10, will re-watch time and time again.
Sean, Sean, Sean... you've become what you hated. "He who fights with monsters should see to it that he does not become a monster himself, and when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you"
"If you cheat and don't get caught, Result stands." It is actually a valid, although looked down upon manouver. There is so much going on at times you can't focus on everything and mistakes are made. It happens, also, it's a friendly game, added to the enjoyable factor. outsmart your opponent.
for a second i thought the card was located where his pinky is but after further inspection of the card in garruks wake thats deff just the axe. interesting.
I was looking forward to this episode for weeks because Jovenshire and Sean are two of my favorite youtube gamers. This was the best episode to date, and it didn't leave me wanting for anything but more matches between them. Can't wait for the gag reel to come out!
I really love the close games that they've been having recently. The more powerful cards and the more complex interactions are really fun to watch. This season started out pretty slow with games like Allie's, but it's been amazing to watch the last couple. Keep up the good work!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Sean did not have enough mana to play that Stormtide Leviathan as it costs 8 mana but Sean only has 7 land in play and should not have been able to play the Leviathan.
Leviathan has been around for several core sets and has never been a star in any of them. At 8 mana to play, with no innate anti-removal ability, it is only really reasonable in a budget Simic deck. Direct removal *is* a staple of most good decks, but the reason Leviathan doesn't shine is because a blue player saving for 8 mana can be easily punished.
Jalathas That was kind of a Magic meme. If something dies to removal, it has to do something immediately/have some other form of card evasion (ie. tokens) or just be ridiculously cost effective. Cheap cards that trade equally with removal are also good. The rest is crap, because Wizards can't into removal design.
Yagi I wouldn't come to the same conclusion. Cheap direct removal is a counterbalance to large-body creatures. Cheap cards that trade well for the cost of removal (and anti-removal abilities) are counterbalances to direct removal. Large-body creatures are a good counterbalance to cheap creatures. Obviously, this isn't the only rock-paper-scissors balance cycle in Magic, and there's nuance around this one I'm sure you could come up with, but in general, the main balance issue that Wizards has is that Blue has slight overrepresentation in both pro deck composition and winning pro deck composition (which really means that reducing the randomness of your own deck is the most powerful mechanic.)
Really an enjoyable game/episode to watch. these guys are so silly, and i get a kick of Sean's cheesy ass grin when he's done something particularly good.
This show has made my 9 yr old son mental for MTG. We have played countless hours now, and have played our first FNM. I want to thank day9 and geek & sundry for making this show available. Big thumbs up.
Let us all ignore the fact that Sean miscouted his mana and played the Stormtide Leviathan, an 8 mana creature, with only 7 lands on the board... He should have lost :/
***** That's not important - This show is intended to teach players as much as to entertain. It should be annotated in big bold letters at the least...
Also, Sean forgot to put a 1/1 counter on the Leviathan from Feast of the Fallen after Joshua lost life from it the first time... not like it mattered in the end, though. :)
WrathOfEnd Oh. That's kind of a strange target to put it on. I guess it was for the lolz, because the Leviathan was unblockable, so more free dmg = win.
LoL Coffeemelt he didn't need the extra damage on the leviathan, it already dealt lethal after that first blow... He gave the counter to the Murk Lurker to reward it for services rendered.
LoL Coffeemelt well if Joshua had a counter to the leviathan it would have been an even better play to give the +1/+1 to the lurker, since he'd then still have a strong creature in play.
JCarlosFFAF yup its an insane card in that format, Those decks arent reliable on any card because I don't think there is any x4 in there. So the chances of getting a removal to deal with leviathan is almost impossible. So strong.
JCarlosFFAF Even top-decking that Island only brought him to 7, it wasn't legal to play the Leviathan when he did. Only after he top-decked the Swamp the turn after would he have been able to play it. Sean still would've won in the end, because with the cards played Josh could've dealt 6 damage on the turn the Leviathan dropped, bringing Sean down to 3, but then the Leviathan would've legally dropped the next turn and he still would've won barring the fact that the next card in Josh's deck by the end of the game wasn't removal.
IceMaverick As some other guys point out, if you look closely on the editing through out that, he actually had enough mana they just made it look as if he did not have it pretty much. It happens when you try to cut out the boring stuff. But I am not going to say it was like that or not. But there might be something that we just havent see. But still. he would have lost so even if a mistake was made nothing else could have happened anyway :)
Markus Wallin I'll have to see if I can fetch my long analysis, but I broke down that part of the video and looking at how many cards he draws and how many he has in his hand at the start and the end of each turn, I proved that it was physically impossible for him to have played the Leviathan when he did because he would HAVE to have played 2 mana on one turn at some point. Even though the editing jumps around and more mana appears over time, there's one moment where it cuts back and he has an extra land on the board, isn't missing a card from his hand, and he had already played a mana at the start of that turn. I had thought it wouldn't have mattered if Sean had waited an extra turn to play it (since we know he top-decks a swamp on the next turn), because I'm sure he'd still have won, but somebody else brought to my attention recently the equip cards on the field, combined with that extra turn Sean would had to have given to his opponent, would have likely dealt enough damage to kill him. It is possible that this foul-play resulted in Sean winning the match when he shouldn't have.
This season has been just awesome. When I would recruit new Magic players, it was tough trying to convince them it was fun from watching tournament footage. But THIS show displays everything wonderful about Magic. *gold clap*
AAAARRRGGGHHH i hate this show. Every time i think to myself, great, im done with magic i'm never going back, you make it look like so much fun again and i just see my salary disappear into cardboard. bastards.
You missed a little detail that was probably hard to catch if you weren't looking for it. Since the play is kinda casual he likely just did it lightly out of order (i.e. he forgot to mana THEN play it, but it's still valid because he has the mana in hand and legal to play), but he dropped another black mana already tapped down after the fact. When his next turn starts he has 8 untapped mana on the board illustrated by about 20:15. Edit: That actually only explains how he got from 7 to 8. Idk when he went from 6 to 7. Edit: Yeah upon further review, at most he could only have had 7 mana on the turn he played the Leviathan, he had three cards the turn before, he drew one from the Rogue's Gloves and one from his turn starting. The extra island he gained must have been one of the cards he drew and they just didn't show it on camera because when we next see him, there's an additional island and he still has 4 cards. At that point he has 7 mana and could not simply play the eighth one after because he already played an island that turn. I think for once, a misplay actually slipped by the crew of like 5 people on set watching for errors in gameplay.
Jovenshire misplayed. If he ranger guile's ob nixilis in response to the liflink, it gains hexproof and can't be targeted by the ability and his 4/3 haster kills Sean
Break Monster did say Ob Nixilis, not the rhino. But yes, they are wrong (It doesn't have anything to do with lifelink being a static effect, though). Ranger's Guile can't target an opponent's creature anyways, but even if it could, it wouldn't prevent the lifelink from happening, because hexproof only cares about the controller of the creature, not the one who gives it. Sean is the controller of Ob Nixilis, so giving it hexproof would only prevent Jovenshire from targeting it.
That's not how lifelink works. Josh should've won after his 4/3 haste creature did 4 damage. Game state is checked before lifelink is triggered, and Sean is already dead. Damage resolves at the same time (unless it's first strike). Am I missing something?
It used to be a triggered ability until Magic 2010, and before then you would be correct. Now it's static, and both damage and healing happen before priority is declared.
nope. You're wrong. It's when the damage dealt by the creature with lifelink is done, you assign damage to the creatures and then to the players. So it's correct how they showed in the video. Very good match btw!
You can see when he use Divination that he just says that he pass turn without playing his land that he draws, but then next turn has it in play. They just do it to speed it up, cut some "boring parts" like playing lands. No cheating.
Henrik Tegman how are they "speeding" it up by skipping a landdrop which takes about a second... in my eyes this is sloppy editing if anything and in this case the one mysterious extra mana was either way off to the side (which is kind of hard to believe judging from the otherwise nicely stacked lands) or he was in fact cheating his way to victory. as ***** aldready said the turn prior you can clearly see that he has 6 lands so unless they skipped 2 landdrops this is impossible. and even then he layed down the leviathan before playing the extra land... so .... well mistakes happen.. but i guess it was to make for a more interesting finish with a glorious comeback (for whatever reason)
soulseek2 may I just add. that watchin the beginning again. They skip Sean putting down his lands since turn 2. (obviously you can see it's been put down when he casts something that turn) So, I guess if you add all those cuts then you get a pretty decent amount of cut time.
As M3ment0Mori and IceMaverick pointed out, lifelink is no longer a triggered ability, but a static one, which has its effects applied before State Based Actions are checked (such as checking if a player's life total fell to 0 or less). This means this match was decided by a change in the ruleset, which is pretty cool.
Ugh. I can't stand Smosh Games. It's not even a real gaming channel. Anthony and Ian just wanted to create a "gaming" channel so they could get more money due to gaming channel popularity and their already huge fandom. They don't care in the slightest for video games.
Ok so I saw the thing everyone pointed out with the Stormtide Leviathan but I think Sean should've lost the game earlier anyway. Now I'm not entirely sure but at 16:50 shouldn't the 4 damage from the giant have happened at the same time as the lifelink which would mean he would hit 0 before he gained the 7 life?
As always, a lot of fun. But whenever the guys were talking one on one to the camera, I had the impression the cameraman was also balancing on a unicycle. Damn that camera moved a lot.
I love the hell out of that leviathan. I have more than one of those guys and though it is OP, I have myself been able to play it around turn 8 or 10 and it really is an game ender. Of course it has no way of being protected, but that is what I love about this game. The most powerful cards can be sent away with a flick of the mana, hahahah. But I love that card to death, the looks on my face and others faces when it gets pulled out priceless. Also bring this channel back, haven't seen it since I don't know when, but it needs to come back I miss it so much. It really is the only thing that i watch of yours.
MexiCanadian 08 My group really enjoys using it in EDH (casual kitchen table). Everyone has at least one deck with that card. It isn't a game breaker but it is so much fun. Anytime you play it it's a gamble since you just burned 8 mana and it could just get wiped right off the board. But if it doesn't, all hell breaks loose. You also become the instant target if it stays on the board. Plus there is always that player or two that think leaving it there just might benefit them if they aren't directly attacked for a couple of turns and may choose to ignore it even if they have the card to get rid of it. It is one of those cards that either elicits groans or yippee's every time it is played, and either of those reactions can be from the one playing it or an opponent. Love it.
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The slight delay between Sean's reading the last ability of the Leviathan and his reaction...priceless! Also, holy mother of Eldrazi, that Leviathan is insane.
That leviathan is epic... Imagine if it had shroud
THAT WOULD BE THE BEST CARD EVER!
KTFlaSh96
I'm not a power gamer, I don't have fun simply by having big things or hitting hard. Try again with your assumptions.
IceMetalPunk bro you think leviathan is good. you're going to try to defend yourself as not being a timmy after you make a statement like that?
KTFlaSh96 Appreciating the power level of a thing is not the same as saying "I want this! I need this! Power is the most important thing!"
"So I rolled blue-black, and I'm worried that I'm going to be an a$$hole"
I fell out of my chair when he said that.
AdamTomaszewski725 hahahahaaha
EclipsedArchon as a blue/black player, this is so true
"If I had a table, I'd turn it."
My favorite comment from the show.
Sargon Dorsai fave comment from the entire series
The Leviathan reveal was fantastic.
"He's all in on a rhino."
welcome to KTK Standard.
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Speaking of games, what's your favorite new(ish) game?
That was a great game guys. I am playing Heroes & Generals and Archeage as of tomorrow.
This was an enjoyable bout, guys :)
The expression on the faces when Stormtide Leviathan dropped was just priceless.
Was it just for show or he really didn't know the stormtide levithan?
Great fun! Perfect thing to help me wake up on a Friday morning - besides coffee.
Conceptually, can you imagine how badass it would be to summon that Stormtide Leviathan? Just standing there then you make an incantation then all the sudden an earth shaking bellowing noise comes from the ocean, then woosh! A gigantic monster that dwarfs the town you are in with a tidal wave that floods every land for miles and miles. And that's just how he makes an entrence.
And then someone uses "Smite the monstrous" or something then the lands all dry up with happy flowers.
I find it funny how much Joshua freaked out when he thought Sean was gonna give the rhino -1/-1 when he just gave it hexproof.
He said he was doing it in response. Which means he does it before the spell resolves so if he had that card the -1/-1 would have resolved first before the +1/+1 and hexproof so the rhino would have been a 6/6 hexproof and merely died
Must have missed the in response part. The way I heard it I interpreted he cast it after Josh's spell resolved.
I hope they make a supercut of Sean trying to pick up cards from the table.
This was by far my favorite episode of spell slingers i've seen so far! Love the blue turn around.
My jaw fell off of my face when the leviathan hit the table. Jesus Christ, "good timing" is a massive understatement here.
He didn't even have enough mana to summon him
+DXXP at 20:16 you can see he has 8 lands on his field. Through the editing we might miss it, but maybe he played the land before he played the leviathan...We don't see his board again the turn he plays it
+DXXP YES HE DID :O
This has to be my favorite episode thus far. Sean and Josh just played off each other so well and the game itself...holy shit, that game. 20 out of 10, will re-watch time and time again.
19:08 Ovenshire's expression is absolutely priceless.
Sometimes I'd like to have these deck lists, juuuuuuuuust to see what's going on.
Same
Sean didn't have enough for the mana cost of the Stormtide Leviathan 18:38
Sean, Sean, Sean... you've become what you hated.
"He who fights with monsters should see to it that he does not become a monster himself, and when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you"
Ayeeee this is the 2 year anniversary of my absolute favorite Spell Slingers episode!! :D
Really enjoying this series! Thanks for putting it out there Sean!
Someone correct me if I'm missing something. At 19:00 Stormtide is an 8 drop, 5UUU and Day9 has 7 lands......
How did he cast it?
Sean can't count
"If you cheat and don't get caught, Result stands." It is actually a valid, although looked down upon manouver. There is so much going on at times you can't focus on everything and mistakes are made. It happens, also, it's a friendly game, added to the enjoyable factor. outsmart your opponent.
for a second i thought the card was located where his pinky is but after further inspection of the card in garruks wake thats deff just the axe. interesting.
That was a freaking good fight here!
This is - by far - the best show on G&S. Too bad we have to wait so long for every new episode.
Love this series! It keeps getting better and better.
this is my favorite series out all the other series I ve seen on any channel on youtube ever
Every card game should have videos like this so people can learn to enjoy the game..
If this show ever comes back, there needs to be another 2-Headed Giant episode with Lasercorn and Sohinki in it.
I've seen some op shit in my day but damn that levi is NUTS.
Okay, this is now officially my favorite episode of Spellslingers.
"If I had a table I would turn it right now." HAHA I was dying.... and then Negate lol
I was looking forward to this episode for weeks because Jovenshire and Sean are two of my favorite youtube gamers. This was the best episode to date, and it didn't leave me wanting for anything but more matches between them. Can't wait for the gag reel to come out!
one of my friends is "that guy", so whenever he asks if i wanna play, i normally answer "you mean YOU want to play while I just sit?"
That was the best episode of this season! Great job to both of you, it was a blast to watch.
"And with that, Sean Becomes all that he hates" Yes..yes, let the hate flow through you! XD
That leviathan is 2OP lol
I really love the close games that they've been having recently. The more powerful cards and the more complex interactions are really fun to watch. This season started out pretty slow with games like Allie's, but it's been amazing to watch the last couple. Keep up the good work!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that Sean did not have enough mana to play that Stormtide Leviathan as it costs 8 mana but Sean only has 7 land in play and should not have been able to play the Leviathan.
***** Holy crud! You're right! Pausing at 18:39 clearly shows Sean having 7 lands!!
I went back and checked a bunch, there's not enough mana, you're right. We need a rematch!
WOW!
REMATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rematch
Best episode I've seen so far! That was amazing, yust look at the face he makes when the leviathan appeared.
Fantastic show.
Spellslingers is best enjoyed over a second screen at work.
Best game of the season so far! Sean destroys in an incredible turnaround using a deck he despises. Impressive!
Wow that Leviathan card is straight up broken. Does everyone have to run direct removal to counter that stuff?
Leviathan has been around for several core sets and has never been a star in any of them. At 8 mana to play, with no innate anti-removal ability, it is only really reasonable in a budget Simic deck. Direct removal *is* a staple of most good decks, but the reason Leviathan doesn't shine is because a blue player saving for 8 mana can be easily punished.
*It's crap because it dies to removal*
Thanks, Wizards.
Yagi It's crap because it's EXPENSIVE and dies to removal.
Jalathas
That was kind of a Magic meme.
If something dies to removal, it has to do something immediately/have some other form of card evasion (ie. tokens) or just be ridiculously cost effective. Cheap cards that trade equally with removal are also good. The rest is crap, because Wizards can't into removal design.
Yagi I wouldn't come to the same conclusion. Cheap direct removal is a counterbalance to large-body creatures. Cheap cards that trade well for the cost of removal (and anti-removal abilities) are counterbalances to direct removal. Large-body creatures are a good counterbalance to cheap creatures.
Obviously, this isn't the only rock-paper-scissors balance cycle in Magic, and there's nuance around this one I'm sure you could come up with, but in general, the main balance issue that Wizards has is that Blue has slight overrepresentation in both pro deck composition and winning pro deck composition (which really means that reducing the randomness of your own deck is the most powerful mechanic.)
Oh... the looks on _both_ of their faces when Sean played the Leviathan... Priceless.
Favourite Demon? Day9. Playing Blue makes yourself a spawn from hell.
Personally, I love blue/black :3
Really an enjoyable game/episode to watch. these guys are so silly, and i get a kick of Sean's cheesy ass grin when he's done something particularly good.
I was totally rooting for Sean to win. Joshua talks so much shit.
This video was so satisfying.
but I love joven
19:05 With out a doubt, the BEST part of this season thus-far. Both of their faces when they realize what just happened, freaking brilliant. XD
Like how Sean played a 8 mana cost creature with only 7 mana on the field :P
That was enormously fun to watch...their faces were priceless when the Leviathan was summoned. What beautiful, beautiful nerds :)
Playing blue destroys you from the inside...
Scrub detected.
There's nothing wrong with being a little destroyed on the inside. I find it makes you a better person at times.
Playing U/B kills you on the inside... And out.
Even better. Unlife is underrated.
that's why it's the perfect color for me i'm already dead inside.
I really can't wait to see the outtakes from this episode.
"Holy Shit, that card is a bomb" :D 19:03
This show has made my 9 yr old son mental for MTG. We have played countless hours now, and have played our first FNM. I want to thank day9 and geek & sundry for making this show available. Big thumbs up.
Let us all ignore the fact that Sean miscouted his mana and played the Stormtide Leviathan, an 8 mana creature, with only 7 lands on the board... He should have lost :/
***** That's not important - This show is intended to teach players as much as to entertain. It should be annotated in big bold letters at the least...
***** Fair point.
***** Also, it's also possible we missed something in editing too. But if an entire room of people missed it there is nothing you can do about it.
Great Job.. This was the best episode yet... cant wait for the Gags... :D
that leviathan is ridiculous. wtf
Joshua's "OMFG" face is now my favorite moment in all of G&S's gaming videos.
Also, Sean forgot to put a 1/1 counter on the Leviathan from Feast of the Fallen after Joshua lost life from it the first time... not like it mattered in the end, though. :)
He placed the counter on Jorubai Murk Lurker instead.
WrathOfEnd
Oh. That's kind of a strange target to put it on. I guess it was for the lolz, because the Leviathan was unblockable, so more free dmg = win.
LoL Coffeemelt
he didn't need the extra damage on the leviathan, it already dealt lethal after that first blow... He gave the counter to the Murk Lurker to reward it for services rendered.
Galtran He might have needed the extra damage had Joshua done something. You don't give something a counter for 'the services rendered' lol.
LoL Coffeemelt well if Joshua had a counter to the leviathan it would have been an even better play to give the +1/+1 to the lurker, since he'd then still have a strong creature in play.
Giggling my pants off at Day9's laughter explaining the leviathan :D
Mmmmm, new episode!
"And with that, Sean becomes all that he hates."
Too true. Too true. Great episode.
Now that is what you call topdeck
not really... he has the Leviathan since the beggining of the game... he just topdecked a land
JCarlosFFAF yup its an insane card in that format, Those decks arent reliable on any card because I don't think there is any x4 in there. So the chances of getting a removal to deal with leviathan is almost impossible. So strong.
JCarlosFFAF Even top-decking that Island only brought him to 7, it wasn't legal to play the Leviathan when he did. Only after he top-decked the Swamp the turn after would he have been able to play it. Sean still would've won in the end, because with the cards played Josh could've dealt 6 damage on the turn the Leviathan dropped, bringing Sean down to 3, but then the Leviathan would've legally dropped the next turn and he still would've won barring the fact that the next card in Josh's deck by the end of the game wasn't removal.
IceMaverick As some other guys point out, if you look closely on the editing through out that, he actually had enough mana they just made it look as if he did not have it pretty much. It happens when you try to cut out the boring stuff.
But I am not going to say it was like that or not. But there might be something that we just havent see. But still. he would have lost so even if a mistake was made nothing else could have happened anyway :)
Markus Wallin I'll have to see if I can fetch my long analysis, but I broke down that part of the video and looking at how many cards he draws and how many he has in his hand at the start and the end of each turn, I proved that it was physically impossible for him to have played the Leviathan when he did because he would HAVE to have played 2 mana on one turn at some point. Even though the editing jumps around and more mana appears over time, there's one moment where it cuts back and he has an extra land on the board, isn't missing a card from his hand, and he had already played a mana at the start of that turn.
I had thought it wouldn't have mattered if Sean had waited an extra turn to play it (since we know he top-decks a swamp on the next turn), because I'm sure he'd still have won, but somebody else brought to my attention recently the equip cards on the field, combined with that extra turn Sean would had to have given to his opponent, would have likely dealt enough damage to kill him. It is possible that this foul-play resulted in Sean winning the match when he shouldn't have.
This season has been just awesome. When I would recruit new Magic players, it was tough trying to convince them it was fun from watching tournament footage. But THIS show displays everything wonderful about Magic. *gold clap*
A Doom Blade would have saved everything. So unlucky.
Sszafein I love doom blade so much... I play blue/black and it is my saviour.
@Sean Plott good job on the community cup win. I tuned in when I saw your name on the bracket and had to watch all the way to the end. well played
AAAARRRGGGHHH i hate this show. Every time i think to myself, great, im done with magic i'm never going back, you make it look like so much fun again and i just see my salary disappear into cardboard. bastards.
***** thanks for the vote of confidence :) sadly it is misplaced. I'm just pure bad at it.
Jindorek
Perhaps you could sell some of your cards and take a class in professional Magic so you can play professionally
andrew muszynski thats a thing?!?
Carl H
You could just bug a pro to teach you and give him money.
I've been waiting for this match up and I don't even play Magic. Loved it!
totally random wheel spins. *wink wink*
I fucking loved and almost had beer shoot out my nose with shawns iteration of " if i had a table, i would turn it." so friken funny.
18:05 Sean has 6 mana then next turn he plays the Stormtide Leviathan with only 7 mana?
Or did I mis something? xD
You missed a little detail that was probably hard to catch if you weren't looking for it. Since the play is kinda casual he likely just did it lightly out of order (i.e. he forgot to mana THEN play it, but it's still valid because he has the mana in hand and legal to play), but he dropped another black mana already tapped down after the fact. When his next turn starts he has 8 untapped mana on the board illustrated by about 20:15.
Edit: That actually only explains how he got from 7 to 8. Idk when he went from 6 to 7.
Edit: Yeah upon further review, at most he could only have had 7 mana on the turn he played the Leviathan, he had three cards the turn before, he drew one from the Rogue's Gloves and one from his turn starting. The extra island he gained must have been one of the cards he drew and they just didn't show it on camera because when we next see him, there's an additional island and he still has 4 cards. At that point he has 7 mana and could not simply play the eighth one after because he already played an island that turn. I think for once, a misplay actually slipped by the crew of like 5 people on set watching for errors in gameplay.
IceMaverick Maybe he would have won anyway but still I dont like the way it went
That was hilarious. Favorite episode thus far!
how could rhino block a flying?
Grottsa sorry I'm a little late, just saw the video... But the flyer blocked the rhino, not the other way around.
Logan I little
Thank you for another episode! Day9 + Felicia Day is the winningest combo on the internet
Speed vs cunning next please
Oh my god is so good knowing what the cards are with only the art
Jovenshire is a 7/7 in my books.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE JULY!!!
anyone watching this in 2017
no
2018 here... close enough?
2018
2018. Hahaha
2019 lol
"If I had a table I'd turn it right now" oh god that made this entire episode.
Jovenshire misplayed. If he ranger guile's ob nixilis in response to the liflink, it gains hexproof and can't be targeted by the ability and his 4/3 haster kills Sean
Break Monster Lifelink doesn't target the rhino, it is on Ob Nixilis. And it's a static affect so it works anyway.
Break Monster did say Ob Nixilis, not the rhino. But yes, they are wrong (It doesn't have anything to do with lifelink being a static effect, though). Ranger's Guile can't target an opponent's creature anyways, but even if it could, it wouldn't prevent the lifelink from happening, because hexproof only cares about the controller of the creature, not the one who gives it. Sean is the controller of Ob Nixilis, so giving it hexproof would only prevent Jovenshire from targeting it.
Yeah hexproof means enemy spells and abiliities its different to being unable to be targeted by spells and abilities
Great game all together. Cheers to both guys !
That's not how lifelink works. Josh should've won after his 4/3 haste creature did 4 damage. Game state is checked before lifelink is triggered, and Sean is already dead. Damage resolves at the same time (unless it's first strike). Am I missing something?
I'm pretty sure you're right, I was thinking the same thing. But, we got to watch an entertaining power switch, so oh well.
Lifelink does not "trigger" it's a static ability, it does not use the stack
22freedom33 Right you are... never realized that. The order of damage v. lifegain is still confusing to me.
It used to be a triggered ability until Magic 2010, and before then you would be correct. Now it's static, and both damage and healing happen before priority is declared.
nope. You're wrong. It's when the damage dealt by the creature with lifelink is done, you assign damage to the creatures and then to the players. So it's correct how they showed in the video. Very good match btw!
I wish this was never cancelled.
Sean is a lowsy cheater: an 8 mana creature for 7 lands? Fake guy, just like Josh Barnett said a couple of episodes ago.
glad i wasn't the only one who caught that.
You can see when he use Divination that he just says that he pass turn without playing his land that he draws, but then next turn has it in play.
They just do it to speed it up, cut some "boring parts" like playing lands. No cheating.
Henrik Tegman how are they "speeding" it up by skipping a landdrop which takes about a second... in my eyes this is sloppy editing if anything and in this case the one mysterious extra mana was either way off to the side (which is kind of hard to believe judging from the otherwise nicely stacked lands) or he was in fact cheating his way to victory.
as ***** aldready said the turn prior you can clearly see that he has 6 lands so unless they skipped 2 landdrops this is impossible. and even then he layed down the leviathan before playing the extra land... so .... well mistakes happen..
but i guess it was to make for a more interesting finish with a glorious comeback (for whatever reason)
soulseek2
may I just add. that watchin the beginning again. They skip Sean putting down his lands since turn 2. (obviously you can see it's been put down when he casts something that turn)
So, I guess if you add all those cuts then you get a pretty decent amount of cut time.
20:56 HE HAD THE LAND, he just didn't show him playing it
this was a great watch the turn of the table with the lifelink was great makes me want to try a black blue deck now
I thought you were better than this Sean... But once you played that negate I lost all hope for humanity...
He also played his Leviathan with 7 mana when it costs 8. For shame
I know technically he did have the mana to cast it but THAT REACTION!!!
ONE OF THE BEST MOMENTS GEEK & SUNDRY HAS GIVEN ME FOR A LONG TIME!!
Don't worry Josh. Lifelink triggers after damage so you should have won when you swung with the rhino and the giant.
Lifelink doesn't trigger. It's a static ability that modifies the result of damage.
They have an On Set Magic Representative Gavin Verhey im sure he will have said something if they didn't know the rules
Lifelink changed its rules in the 2010 set. Lifelink is no longer a trigger-able ability but happens as a result of combat damage now.
As M3ment0Mori and IceMaverick pointed out, lifelink is no longer a triggered ability, but a static one, which has its effects applied before State Based Actions are checked (such as checking if a player's life total fell to 0 or less). This means this match was decided by a change in the ruleset, which is pretty cool.
Ah really? Then I stand corrected
"Little bit of hope maybe he can play a land, AND THEN I JUST RIP OUT HIS HEART"
Ugh. I can't stand Smosh Games. It's not even a real gaming channel. Anthony and Ian just wanted to create a "gaming" channel so they could get more money due to gaming channel popularity and their already huge fandom. They don't care in the slightest for video games.
love this show so much, thank you very much!
Damn that Rhino had quite the day, He got eqipped and pumped.
Another great matchup. Shows how the lifelink mechanic can turn the tables in your favor. I'm starting to warm up to blue.
I love these videos. Me and my wife just started playing Magic. I hope you do a third season
"I NEED ONE CARD TO SAVE ME"
PUT YOUR TRUST IN THE CARDS YUGI!!
me and my friend played for 4 years with red/green vs blue/black. This is my nostalgia game.
Ok so I saw the thing everyone pointed out with the Stormtide Leviathan but I think Sean should've lost the game earlier anyway. Now I'm not entirely sure but at 16:50 shouldn't the 4 damage from the giant have happened at the same time as the lifelink which would mean he would hit 0 before he gained the 7 life?
I could just watch those reactions to the leviathan on loop.
Fun thing is I have 4 of those leviathans in my blue white deck and it murders
This has to be one of my favorite episodes :D
As always, a lot of fun. But whenever the guys were talking one on one to the camera, I had the impression the cameraman was also balancing on a unicycle. Damn that camera moved a lot.
I love Joven, hes one of my all time favs so glad hes on here.
I love the hell out of that leviathan. I have more than one of those guys and though it is OP, I have myself been able to play it around turn 8 or 10 and it really is an game ender. Of course it has no way of being protected, but that is what I love about this game. The most powerful cards can be sent away with a flick of the mana, hahahah. But I love that card to death, the looks on my face and others faces when it gets pulled out priceless. Also bring this channel back, haven't seen it since I don't know when, but it needs to come back I miss it so much. It really is the only thing that i watch of yours.
MexiCanadian 08 My group really enjoys using it in EDH (casual kitchen table). Everyone has at least one deck with that card. It isn't a game breaker but it is so much fun. Anytime you play it it's a gamble since you just burned 8 mana and it could just get wiped right off the board. But if it doesn't, all hell breaks loose. You also become the instant target if it stays on the board. Plus there is always that player or two that think leaving it there just might benefit them if they aren't directly attacked for a couple of turns and may choose to ignore it even if they have the card to get rid of it. It is one of those cards that either elicits groans or yippee's every time it is played, and either of those reactions can be from the one playing it or an opponent. Love it.
you can actually play it on turn 3 with the right cards. With some Sol Ring's and silver myr's, you're good to go.
I got whiplash from that table turning so fast! XD
Don't wanna be rude, but, BEST EPISODE OF THE SEASON SO FAR.