@@trollhunter6934 Its not that, the biggest mistake they made was calling themselves real women. At least with Bruce here, he called himself a trans-woman and acknowledged he isn't a real woman because he never could be. Had the trans community taken that tact, they would be more accepted in society than they are and more people would be sympathetic to their cause. But as with everything, a small minority took the helm and ruined it for everybody, a small minority I like to call the "Ku Klux Trans".
I believe all of the women swimmers should refuse to swim against Lia Thomas and file a class-action lawsuit. If he doesn't have someone to swim against then it would show solidarity of all the women swimmers.
As it stands, the crowds are starting to only consider the race is on once the men have finished - They've been heavily cheering the first actual woman to finish. This is just assumption but some of those girls are probably on scholarships etc and I don't imagine it's as simple as just leave.
Could you imagine training your whole life for the Gold Medal and some guy walks in wearing a WIG and destroys your career and life dreams shattered! Our woman need to stand up to that BS!!
@ Sean Rowe Exactly. I bet if they had their own trans division they would still complain. It's not right. I have a couple of friends who are trans and they are even saying There's is a time to draw the line. Being trans is one thing competing against biological women is another. Lia competed against men and lost . From what I understood Lia never placed. So you switch divisions? There is a reason why they have men's and women's Divi to begin with. Biological women would never win against a biological men. So why is this hard for these people to grasp. It's so sad.
@@toulamaccrue9906 but you brought up a very Profound idea!! I came up w that only logical way to fix it..Is to have trans divisions! It makes perfect sense..then they would have trans athletes and people who support the trans movement..It's what is best for them!! Why is this so hard? Simple answer is they found a LOOP HOLE TO CHEAT..
So if I were a 6'4" 250 lb male but identified as an 8 year old boy, I should be able to play on an 8 year old football team right? If not, isn't that age discrimination? If how you self identify is all that matters then this should be fine. Stupid people, especially the leaders of the world who pander to these idiots. They make themselves idiots.
it started with letting them in women's bathrooms.....look at how far it went...and so fast. Give the "Woke" an inch.....and see how bad things get really quick.
This whole business is stupid. Putting a man in a dress does not make him eligible for women's sports somehow. The women could stop this just by refusing to participate.
“Biological men shouldn’t play in women’s sports.” I don’t get why that’s so hard to implement. I’ve seen many who say, “The women don’t mind.” Of course they support it publicly because they are “canceled” if they use logic and speak against this madness. More transgender need to speak out against this.
Wow mad respect to Caitlin Jenner. So glad she's standing up for what is right even if it goes against what the people around her believe. We need more courageous ppl like her that will go on TV and say this stuff and not just when they're hiding behind online anamimity.
Oh my goodness, let's just stop letting people do what they want. If your a male ,but feel like female that is your business. Others should not have to be forced to deal with it.
Deal with reality if your mail you're not going to change it no better how much you say you're a lamppole you're still a male this is got to the stage of ludicrous
@@xstorm_8_shadowx Many men from war lost "it," they were still fully men. Male or female is ALWAYS known in the DNA. BUT WAIT, what about the rarest of conditions? Even in the rarest of genetic oddity the gender can be determined now days. There was actually a whole issue with children being forced to be a gender that would be "easier" for them do to their lack of "it" in the 1990's. Those children should sue, genetic testing was often done and the results ignored. There is still a known male or female gender found in the DNA even with unique, non-typical, DNA and growth patterns.
You are correct and if they want to allow Men to rule Woman's sports there is no reason to have Woman's sports until men are not allowed to call them self a women. These men that are dominating in Woman's sports would be back markers in men's.
Actually, I believe you are incorrect. Football, Baseball, Hockey, PGA Golf, etc - these are not "men" only sports - there is NO RULE that precludes a woman from competing for a position in any of those leagues. However, since these are sports where strength helps, you'll notice that NO WOMEN are able to play well enough to get one of the available spots. Women on the other hand, DO have women-only gender rules that restrict men from participating in their gender biased sports - example LPGA, WNBA, etc.
Caitlyn is trans and even she disagrees and that’s saying something. An issue like this requires compromise from both ends. Lia Thomas has a right to be who she wants to be and swim but the other cis women athletes have rights to have a fair competition. We just have to figure out how to compromise.
There are women and there are trans women. There is no such thing as a "cis" woman. That designation was created only to marginalise biological and suggest there are infact two different designations of women. There are not. There are women and there are biological males living as women.
he is male, and should be referred to as such, you don't really get to choose your gender, you have to be what you are born to be, next life you'll be something else. Of course if you do not have children, life ends...pure common sense tells me that. That was even printed in the old testament in King James...abominations shalt surely die. New version is rewritten says you should be killed.
A legit example of “win at all costs” executed LITERALLY. The dedication and complete lack of consideration of how advantaged they truly are. Her face should be next to the word “self-centered” worldwide smh 🤦🏽♀️
So what yes it's not fair but women marched for leias rights to be a woman that means exactly that warts and all . His size doesint matter in swimming its based on age and ability . like football you can be any shape and size as long as you make the grade ? 6ft players play againt 5ft players . Boxing is based on weight etc . No she's a woman now in all its glory . And they seen to it that you can be sued for saying any different. What gives women that right now all of a sudden because there not happy all of a sudden he's not a woman . Own the win reep the reward of that win
I have a freshman high school swimmer, she pushes herself at every practice to be line leader. Her hope is to swim at a big school. It will be a hard reality for her is she can’t get a scholarship because they start giving them to the trans community. I will stand for my daughter’s and women’s rights.
OK, sport by sport approach might not be a bad idea. I have an alternative idea: how about that we only allow women to compete in women's sports? To me, it seems to make a lot of sense. If transgender athletes want to participate in sporting events, how about they get their own category? They compete among themselves instead. I really don't see any problem with that approach.
Are we beginning to realize that they aren’t going to stop trying to force this on us so now we have to put our foot down and say enough is enough!!!!!!
100% It's too late for Grace when a Nation rejects God. America is under judgement... When you see a nation deep in sin, the insanity of a reprobate mind, and where they make laws to criminalize righteousness and to legalize gross evil....you know that nation’s under judgment. Too late for a nation, but not too late for the elect.
Fox is STILL censoring my posts, so I'll make it EVEN SHORTER... Not going to happen. You are fooling yourselves. Ted Cruz called the Capitol Hill incursion a "terorist act". Your favorite politician will drop you like a cucumber and you won't know what hit you
Yeah and to bring up that objective truth from the Creator Lawgiver above us all well don’t do that! That’s just goobly goop now but science as currently being touted around in our media that’s some good stuff because well they said so and said science says.
You just have to get to the point of not caring if people like you or not. One things for sure is truth is not popular but you must speak out when needed.
I appreciate that someone from the trans community such as Caitlyn is standing up for biological women. It’s unfair and it’s so sad these girls on the team can’t even be open about their feelings in fear of being “cancelled” 🤦♀️
Yes, I appreciate that he is standing up against this, but by identifying as trans he is already conceding to the false narrative that allows this kind of sabotage of women to happen in the first place. Namely, that if a man identifies as a woman, then he objectively is one. It would be much more consistent if he also stopped identifying as “Caitlyn” and went back to being “Bruce”. A real man stands up for women, rather than LARPing as a woman.
@@lanadoesathing well I couldn’t agree more but unfortunately it seems as though men trying to be women and women trying to be men have no plans of changing anytime soon but when it bleeds into sports and such that’s an even bigger problem. At least he acknowledges that he is biologically male and there is a difference. But I do certainly agree with you.
@@mirinaxo1663 You’re setting the bar so low. Do you hear yourself? He won woman of the year after being a biological male for 60 and you’re applauding this? See this is why they in your sports now 😂😂😂
Unfortunately though, many people who have this viewpoint ARE bigoted. No one on Fox uses she/her pronouns for Leah. They just call her a “man.” Notice how Caitlyn is still respectful of her gender dysphoria… while trying to protect women’s sports.
@@anourtine6204 I guess it depends on a person's definition of a bigot. It appears to be a catch-all accusation applied to anyone who thinks differently from the voices that are loudest on social media 😏. How would you, yourself define bigotry?
@@adailydaughter6196 That is the precise problem… the misconception that bigotry is a blurry line. It ain’t. It’s disgust, dislike or hatred of a group of people based on the fact that they are part of said community. Really simple. I’m trans, and there are people who would refuse to engage with me after learning this about me. And bigots have the right to not talk to whoever they want. You have the right to dislike me…. But don’t make your dislike of me… MY problem. It’s your problem. Deal with your phobia on your own. You know?
@@anourtine6204 actually, part of the problem is that people assume others "don't like them" or "hate" them. It was a question. And why would I hate you. Would it be fair or accurate to say you hate me (though you don't know me, my thoughts or actions and are not likely to ever do so), because I might not agree with everything you think. By that definition, everyone is pretty much a bigot then. So where does that get us?
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 You sound like an idiot. Feminist doesn't mean you train for WOMEN'S sports then get pushed into a David vs Goliath situation and are expected to tolerate it. When women and men have equal bodies and equal chemistry/hormones maybe then there should be no delineation between men's and women's sports...but I wouldn't hold my breath.
@@susanelrawi7080 I don’t care what I sound like, specially coming from someone that has any type of consideration for these creatures known as feminists.
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 Clearly you don't care what you sound like. Feminism isn't about being any cartoon character you have drummed up in that convoluted head of yours. If asking for equal pay for doing the same job, respect at the workplace and at home, being treated as an intellectual equal offends you just remember...a woman birthed you. What would you desire for her ??
I am a liberal and I find the idea of Lia competing against women absurd. Lia’s heart is bigger, has a larger lung capacity, is taller, broader, and stronger. This is BS.
And having larger lung capacity is huge in swimming. Not only for oxygen exertion, but also because bigger lungs help you float higher up in the water which is very significant in being able to finish faster.
@@tudfrey we are no more a monolithic group than conservatives. Maybe you should make nice when people are agreeing with you instead of calling people names. Learn how to win.
Bless you Caitlyn .No one objects to trans wm living as their true selves but when their decisions wreck the lives of bio women that's just horrible .Lia Thomas is the most narcissistic ,cynical , shameless person.alive .
Mad respect to Caitlyn for saying it like it is. Gender disphoria is a life long struggle but that doesnt translate to "allow them to cheat to make them feel better"
Not true. Many pediatricians have stated that the vast majority of teens that suffer from this dysphoria overcome it in a short time and accept the gender they were born with. People like Jenner are the exceptions.
@@prodogtwodogman3857 yes that’s crazy. But at least Caitlyn knows men shouldn’t be on women sports teams. Now I didn’t know Caitlyn was playing golf on the woman’s tee. I just don’t understand how people can justify men competing against women. Sports were separated by gender for a reason it’s just sad.
And setting records in things like swimming, weight lifting, running (I'm sure pole vaulting and long jump are in danger) that no biological woman can ever break...
I mean they kinda did it to themselves. They pushed the politically correct/woke/feminist agenda so hard it's started to backfire on them. If they dare call out trans women they're called transphobic terfs.
@@beeman4266 Yeah… I’ve seen Rowling get ripped apart for it. In the past, female athletes disguised themselves as males to have that section of sports for themselves. So, we’ll start again… Although, it wouldn’t make sense to place someone above your weight class into a lower weight class. So, trans athletes should have their own sports teams to make it even. Idk…
You are very optimistic that 95% of the population has common sense. Why interview Bruce as if it's healthy for people to be delusional chopping off their body parts. Just because he is slightly more rational, he's still a dude.
I’ll stand up, Bruce Jenner is a man, always will be. He will never be a woman. All his dna says that. Outwardly it’s ridiculous and how people can call him a she just makes me laugh
It's obviously not just a 5% who's for this. America is changing. No longer are we this old school ineffectively religious group of people. I'm not saying that I'm particularly for this trans sport thing.(I actually find sports rather pointless.) I'm just saying if you don't move with the rest of the world, you're going to get left behind or judged harshly by history.
Caitlin Jenner is spot on regarding this. As both a former athlete who achieved great success, broke records, etc., and as a transgender woman herself, she understands the disproportionate advantage that Lia has competing against biological females as a biological male. This is not fair play.
Don't hear you spewing any of that crap about females fighting right alongside males in the navy, the army, or the military-OH WAIT, that would be sexist, misogynistic, and generalizing, and females are just as smart and just as strong as males and females can do anything that males can do!!! Don't hear you complaining about biological females being at a disadvantage when they participate in biological MALES' sports, and I DEFINITELY don't hear you complaining about biological females (like Heather Finch) having a disproportionate advantage competing against biological males and the biological males not having a fair play when those stronger biological females beat those biological males in males' sports, HEAVEN FORBID that, because that would be discriminating against the biological females LOL!!!! Hmm..... Interesting..... Talk about inequality smh.....
What blows my mind is the fact that he can beat these woman( win), and feel good about it, like there is literally nothing wrong with it. 🤦Wow so strong and brave of you.
@john Smith "other women" - LOL FYI:- Lia Thomas is an XY-woman, the people she beat are XX-women There should be no Y-chromosomes in women's sport, sporting events are about bodies not minds.
It's nothing but men who were inadequate in their own gender field, they've resorted to an "accepted" form of cheating-It's loophole to start winning. The fact that there's a debate at all and such a deeply ignorant crowd that argue it's not unfair? Wow. So disconcerting; it's proof the woke crowd cares about nothing more than being politically correct and to such a degree that it removes all common sense.
My respect for Caitlin Jenner after this has absolutely gone through the roof, I’ll be honest I expected she would be all for this woke idiocy. Finally people are starting to speak out about this BLATANT cheating from Lia Thomas
Most AGPs, like Jenner, are concerned only about maintaining their own sexual satisfaction from other people pretending tehy are women. Those who can see the way the wind is blowing will backpeddle in order to try to continue to groom people into allowing thenselves to continue to make others unconsenting, unwilling participants in their sexual activity. Jenner himself has taken part in women's sporting competitions.
It was nice to hear Caitlyn say that this woke world is making her feel crazy, because sometimes when I see this crap and people going along with it I feel like I must be taking crazy pills.
@@princesspiplaysbass Look I hate the way some trans people and their allies are twisting language, I hate the way they ask us to deny science, I hate the unfairness in women's sports but when a trans person like Caitlyn is actually willing to say she has gender dysphoria and understands it's hard for other people to understand, that is the kind of trans person I appreciate and don't mind using her name or preferred pronouns because she respects that yes this is new and strange to a lot of people instead of trying to cancel every person who cant keep up with every new gender twitter makes every other day.
@@eds6755 I won't use their pronouns. That would be compelling me to bend my belief. I will just go out of my way to not use them. Or most likely, I'd avoid the person altogether.
If “trans” people want to compete, they should do what women did and fight for a league of their own. Btw, calling cross dressers “trans” doesn’t change anything.
@jhaton Watson The vast majority of men who call themselves "trans" have no intention of getting surgery. They are fully functioning males wanting access to woman's facilities
Was on the man's team, and wasn't good enough, so went to the woman's, hmmm, that seems to happen alot. People are ridiculous supporting this nonsense.....
Martina Navratilova came out publicly against it a few years ago and the LGBT kicked her off the board. I will say both Caitlyn and Tammy still feed into the delusion that you can change genders because they call Lia "she". Lia's chromosomes are still a male and that will not change, Lia is a man as is Caitlyn
Just use she for gods sake. It makes more sense considering she looks like a woman. Doesn’t mean I think trans women should compete in sports against biological females.
Lia is just delusional and probably traumatized by her life that she just refuses to face the truth. But she’s not the oroblem, the problem are the people who allowed her to do this.
As a trans person i found Lia's case unfair, being a biological male that just started the HRT and think you're just like a biological woman is wrong. In that case you have a very unfair advantage
@@wickedwonka9155 thank you! Even if there's people out there that just hate trans people i like to belive that they are just mad about Lia having a big advantage and not the fact that she's a trans woman.
I wonder if Bruce thought it was decent to steal his 10yo daughter's clothes and mast rbate in them in front of a camera said daughter was unknowingly filming him with. She later watched the whole scene. Why is Fox or anyone else platforming this perv?
@john Smith tye interview just started off by saying Jenner refused to play in golf against women because he drives the ball at least 100 yards further than females on average 🤷
Well said. Those who like to harm others seem to find it amusing to do so. Why has our society become so patient and even weak when we are confronted with cruelty?
@@klondor7432 you must not like women cause this certainly is hurting female sports athletes. But this will probably be the straw that breaks the camels back cause wonder who this coach will be recruiting this coming year cause I bet no more female swimmers will want to join the team. Maybe other men will want to join. He is trans nothing he is a man those who call him a she also has a problem.
Lia was winning and set 5 records at Penn in men's swimming just 4 years ago so how is this fair to the other women who have trained their whole life and now they have no chance at all. It is not about gender quality this is just outrageous and unfair to the other women who worked so hard to get to this point.
Bravo Caitlin Jenner for your honestly, integrity, and total respect of fairness regarding NCAA Womens Sports. Thank you for standing up for the truth.
I agree with what Jenner is saying. I don't have to agree with him, as far as gender. However, Jenner is saying, this is me but it is an unfair advantage. I THINK if you are so inclined after years of therapy, that you are indeed happier as a different gender, then it is between you and God. However, you cannot compete in that genders competition. It is unfair.
And loss their jobs for being trans phobic. That's why most hard working people can't afford to stand up to this farce. Thanks lefties and you know you're to blame for this sickness. Just saying
@john Smith when a male thinks he is female and dresses like one, it does NOT change his DNA. Facts are Facts and this is a scientific Fact. Time to live in the real world. We can still love one another without ignoring Facts.
@john Smith doesn't matter what they take, what they do or what they chop off! He will always be a male. Are you a trans by any chance? If so, it shows and so does your ignorance and hatred for truth.
Youd be shocked at the people ive debated online that see men and women as the same lol. My thing is what happens if she decides to wanna be a “he” again after all the records are broken and medals won? It happens a lot during transition where they transition back
Seeing as heavy weight champs have had their title stolen, runners also, etc etc, I'm not shocked at all this is a convo, we are women, they are not, its unfair, and wrong on the rules and regs that this is allowed!
@@kateofbuckingham that's truth. He and Xi both said they aren't having it in their countries You know they are laughing at this. Who is fomenting some of this (tik tok....China). Defeating the US from within.
She/he was a failed male swimmer that decided to dominate women. I see this as nothing less than insane. FJB And Catliyn is right. And very courageous.
It's a system run by dudes for dudes. Just like everything else. Some men want to say they blame women for this, but they need to check themselves. Men run almost everything and they're the ones with the last say. Mostly. And Jenner is perfectly correct on what was said about this issue.
@@gingerisevil02 I do not agree with either point at all. Clearly some people, although wrongly, believe humans can change gender. As for the last point, well that is nonsense.
"trapped in the wrong body" is the exact point ...they still have the advantage of growing up in a male body. These individuals were competitive as males. What are we doing to women's sports? Not fair! Not only unfair this is ridiculous and a total rejection of scientific evidence!
Scientific evidence has become a very useful tool to manipulate masses nowadays. Kind of the same as statistics. So, for vaccination we need to follow science, but for body anatomy please disregard science.
Thats right. If a biological woman would inject herself with testosterone to get more strength and muscle growth it would be considered doping. But if lia thomas has an advantage because of her naturally produced testosterone it is suddenly okay :))
They are insane. They don't even know who they are. That's the diffinition of insanity denial of everything you are and imagining yu you are someone else that's insanity
NCAA is passing the book, thats pretty cowardly. I fully support the comments caitlyn and the other lady made. This is not about transphobia, this is about fair competition in womens sports.
My respect for Caitlyn increased immensely. I agreed with everything she said. I’ve heard a bunch about her, but not much from her. I’m glad I found this video.
I don’t understand the lifestyle choice (or what’s behind the choice - if it even is a choice) but I don’t need to understand. I’m a big proponent of you do you and I’ll do me as long as nobody is harmed. And I’ll respect anyone’s humanity regardless of what group they belong to (as long as they are not jerks or worse). However as Caitlyn stated, these trans athletes are harming the other biological women. My daughter is a D1 collegiate athlete and she has put in more than 8,000 hours of training to get to where she is and it would be grossly unfair if she had to compete against someone with more lung capacity, longer limbs, greater strength etc. due to their original biology.
@@spenser6353 I never like to talk ill about any person, but when it comes to fair competition in sports, even in boxing or MMA, they don't have heavyweights compete against feather weights correct? So why should a biological man be able to dominate female sports? Oh yeah that's right, because the left doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
The true nature of what's going on is that some people are pretending to be something they really aren't and can never be no matter how hard they try, and worse, demand the rest of us pretend along with them or we'll get cancelled.
Yes, James. Women have been pretending they are physically equal to men for over 40 years now. They demand complete equality in funding and scholarships, which cheated males and didn’t even benefit females. Don’t cry for the poor female athletes now. They want equality. This is equality.
@@sgtmomOK equality only works when we are being g true to it. Biological males in male sports and vice versa. I could wake up tomorrow wanting g to identify as a horse, but I won't do a jockey a lot of good if he throws a saddle on me to go compete. People need to be realistic and understand that they may feel like a woman in a males body, but they are and will always be a male.
@@sgtmomOK You're right Sgt Mom, the women's movement created this monster, but for them to admit this is not fair, would be to admit that there are physical differences and advantages for males, and they just can't bring themselves to do that. They would rather keep this going, even though they know it's unfair, than to admit they are wrong.
@@tonysc7610 You summed it up -to perfection. The silence from the perpetrators of this sick hoax…is deafening. From the pandering politicians, the feminists at the trough, to the Mad Moms and Go Gurl dads… there are no innocents.
@@tonysc7610 why do women always get the blame for mens shitty behaviour. Every. Single. Time. Women keep being told that the patriarchy was never a thi g because men were so kind as to give them the vote 🤣 yet, we somehow magically clicked our fingers, prayed for inequity in sports, and boom - you're wish is my command. But men gave women the ite coz no patriarchy. Make it make sense ma man. Say you're an incel and no sane woman would touch you with a barge pole. Now go an hug your mother and apologise to her for being a failure of a man.
"I'm sure she's a wonderful woman"... Ya'll are contradicting yourselves. He is a man and that's why it is unfair for him to compete against real women.
That situation should have been resolved before it even started. I’m sorry folks but this is ridiculous and i hope the people that know better will do better.
I think this will be the "ripping the bandaid off" period. This will resolve, hopefully with different categories for men's, women's and trans. The unfortunate thing is that the women who are affected during this period will never get their chances back and their abilities will be forgotten.
@@winsomemartinez Yeah, I feel terrible for the women that lost out on something they can never get back. And to think that it didn’t have to be that way. People that were thinking that this is wrong should’ve taken action in the very beginning. Who knows what bad things would’ve happened to them because they took action but whether it’s them, me or you, someone has to do it. It’s easy to post a comment saying these things but taking real action is the only way we’re going to survive.
Instead of calling out the NCAA, we need to start calling out Lia Thomas himself. Every 20-something-year-old has a firm grasp of right and wrong. The fact that he is willing to swim with females knowing the physical advantages he has just shows that he lacks integrity and competitive spirit.
And zero self respect.. and zero respect for women or other Transgenders..along with removing progress in rights transgenders have gained and proving those that fought against trans rights they were correct all along. A biological male will never understand or be afemale
Lia just wants to be herself, a competitive athlete. Everyone should strive to support trans athletes as well as cisgender athletes. They can all be accommodated.
Well all the wars fought mainly by men and their sacrifice of their lives, this is the time for girls to sacrifice a little of their time, it ends when they say no n stop competing with these men
If anyone knows it would be Caitlyn. BRUCE Jenner was one of my heroes growing up in the 70s. After all he Won Gold! And I still respect him for becoming a woman. She's not trying to compete against anyone and she uses her common sense.
Could you imagine the parents that spent a lot of money and time spent over many years on their daughter's sport careers, only to have it ripped away for "inclusivity?"
We can't even get women's sports in some areas for high school now because schools would rather not have a team for them and deal with this kind of fiasco. Kudos to Caitlyn for being honest and standing up for those being down trodden.
Fair enough. They’ve cut out so many men’s college sports because women insisted on tit for tat “equality”, yet didn’t bother to enter the lesser known sports that are no longer sponsored for the men that participated.
Ashleigh Nuñez, Jenner was on here saying that trans dudes shouldn’t play women’s sports though. Agreeing with what you said. Did you watch and listen?
.... and not to mention naked trans women walking around the girls locker rooms with their junk hanging out compliments of 0bama's fundamentally Trans-formed America with 0biden as the teleprompter reading figurehead.
Correct, and women should never ever be allowed to compete with boys or men. I used to hate seeing a girl wrestle a boy, and everyone thought it was cute.
Great idea, the problem is that certain trans ppl still will not be happy, probably because 'men' will lose to 'women' and that's just not fair now is it🤔
"This isn't about trangenderism at all. This is about fair play. It's about decency... It's about respecting the community and making decisions that are best, in general for the people you're with."
That's not true though. It's all about transgenderism. You can't have it both ways. Fact is, he is a man. Nothing he does will change that. You can cut off your "parts", put on a wig and identify as a woman, but you will always be a man. That's the reality and it always will be.
@@IronKnee963 Your response is a perfect example of what happens when you don't read to comprehend, but read just to reply. That's the point of the statement. "It's not about transgenderism"... suggesting that it's not an attack against transgenderism. It's just unfair to have biological men fight against women, even if they transition. 😐
It IS about transgenderism, because transgender ideology is what allowed this kind of indecency to happen in the first place. The fact that you’re not willing to attack transgenderism itself is exactly the problem here, because the entire premise that a man can become a woman is based in transgenderism. Even using terms such as “biological man” and “biological woman” is stupid, because you’re implying that there is such a thing as a non-biological man or woman, which is completely false. A man is a man, no matter how he identifies. If a man identifies as a woman, it does not make him a woman, it makes him a man who thinks he’s a woman. There is no lack of comprehension on @9 9’s part here, you are simply wrong.
What is not funny is that there are biological men who are 25-30 who are saying that they identify as 10 yrld girls. So laugh all you like. It's sadly very serious.
Yes but being your best in the sport has a short window. So think about it, they pull out and it’s possibly over for them. Gotta have a better answer and I don’t know what it is. But don’t tell women to quit.
@@danak8782 They're squeezed are of that sport already, thanks to him. Until he's around, no game, no winning for biological female . He should run with a male, or transgender group !!!
Stop legitimizing this by calling it "trans" policy or "trans" swimmer. He's a man, & the policy is about men competing against women. End of story. Using the word "trans" is no better than tiptoeing around pronouns. It would be reasonable to use the word "delusional," however.
This was never about hating the trans community, it's about being fair to others
Agree 100%
It's about the Trans community hating heterosexuals
@@trollhunter6934 Its not that, the biggest mistake they made was calling themselves real women. At least with Bruce here, he called himself a trans-woman and acknowledged he isn't a real woman because he never could be. Had the trans community taken that tact, they would be more accepted in society than they are and more people would be sympathetic to their cause. But as with everything, a small minority took the helm and ruined it for everybody, a small minority I like to call the "Ku Klux Trans".
Yes!!!
it’s just unfortunate that so many people on the correct side of this issue actually do hate trans people. Doesn’t help our case much
I believe all of the women swimmers should refuse to swim against Lia Thomas and file a class-action lawsuit. If he doesn't have someone to swim against then it would show solidarity of all the women swimmers.
I agree. The girls should to a stand out and all line up along side the pool and refuse to swim but just watch DUDE swim by HIMSELF.
They’d better prepare for a crapstorm from the internet mob, then.
They can't even pass a kidney stone.
@@xombi213 Great Idea!
I’d be suing the college as well. Apparently Lia walks around the female locker room with their twig and berries swinging in the breeze.
What needs to happen. Women need to walk out. Stand up LADIES
Yessss
Exactly what they need to do. As soon as the race starts, just walk away. Let him swim by himself
Yes! They need to band together and take a stand. That’s the only way real change can happen.
As it stands, the crowds are starting to only consider the race is on once the men have finished - They've been heavily cheering the first actual woman to finish.
This is just assumption but some of those girls are probably on scholarships etc and I don't imagine it's as simple as just leave.
Thank you! Yes! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Could you imagine training your whole life for the Gold Medal and some guy walks in wearing a WIG and destroys your career and life dreams shattered! Our woman need to stand up to that BS!!
@ Sean Rowe Exactly. I bet if they had their own trans division they would still complain. It's not right. I have a couple of friends who are trans and they are even saying There's is a time to draw the line. Being trans is one thing competing against biological women is another. Lia competed against men and lost . From what I understood Lia never placed. So you switch divisions? There is a reason why they have men's and women's Divi to begin with. Biological women would never win against a biological men. So why is this hard for these people to grasp. It's so sad.
@@toulamaccrue9906 but you brought up a very Profound idea!! I came up w that only logical way to fix it..Is to have trans divisions! It makes perfect sense..then they would have trans athletes and people who support the trans movement..It's what is best for them!! Why is this so hard? Simple answer is they found a LOOP HOLE TO CHEAT..
Women need men and others to stand up with us!
@@inbetwixt5505 Women, Men and others!!!!!?????Others who??? 🫤
@@inbetwixt5505 What we need is for women to be women and men to be men.
Whoever came in second place can consider herself the real female winner
Except she ascribes to the notion that women are completely equal to men. It’s gonna be tough to walk that one back.
@@sgtmomOK It is called "WOMEN"s or MEN's swimming, basketball, etc for a reason...omg, you are low IQ hehe.
@@besame5504 A reason that isn't openly talked about anymore, that's what Sgt Mom is referring to.
@@besame5504
Women's basketball is called TRANQUILIZING, for a reason.
But does that mean we should trash all female sports?
Welcome to the new world order ,AKA the Triangle 🔺️
So if I were a 6'4" 250 lb male but identified as an 8 year old boy, I should be able to play on an 8 year old football team right? If not, isn't that age discrimination? If how you self identify is all that matters then this should be fine. Stupid people, especially the leaders of the world who pander to these idiots. They make themselves idiots.
Good example. You're absolutely right.
The left will continue to move the goalposts to fit their narrative.
Yes
it started with letting them in women's bathrooms.....look at how far it went...and so fast. Give the "Woke" an inch.....and see how bad things get really quick.
This reminds me of a Seinfeld episode where Kramer was taking karate lessons and all the other students were children. He was top of his class. LOL
This whole business is stupid. Putting a man in a dress does not make him eligible for women's sports somehow. The women could stop this just by refusing to participate.
They need to take a stand if they are woman enough!
exactly
@@babyjake7773 are you drinking again? Not sure what you mean....just saying. Edit?
Or else driving in 50,000 trucks down to Washington.
Yes! All should line up and when the starter pistol fires, they should just not dive in. Stay on the podium.
Preach Miss Caitlyn! I agree on every single word you said. Everyone has to make a stand. We’re all about fairness here and that’s all that matters.
Lia has had 20 years of building bone and muscle mass based off birth biology. It doesn’t get reversed just because you block testosterone
And blood volume, lung capacity, height, reaction time, etc.
True, but the woke mob can't stand the facts.
Exactly right!
Every cell in a man's body is "male" and replicates itself accordingly. Nothing can change that. Where are all of the Biology teachers?
💯💯💯💯💯
"She can swim really fast." Just not as fast as the guys on the mens team.
For 3 years he/she/it.. tried
That is why he is now a she
"He" can swim faster than women.
how the hell a man gonna wear a woman swimsuit?!
what's going on with women swimmers letting this happen?!
“Biological men shouldn’t play in women’s sports.” I don’t get why that’s so hard to implement. I’ve seen many who say, “The women don’t mind.” Of course they support it publicly because they are “canceled” if they use logic and speak against this madness. More transgender need to speak out against this.
LOL!
If Biological men are allowed to infiltrate women's sports, eventually there will be no actual women left in elite sport.
Because these people making decisions truly hate woman sports. Transgender men don’t belong in woman sports period.
Not to mention that he was competing in mens swimming his whole career until now.
Yup, your not seeing women rushing to try out for the men's sports very often
Wow mad respect to Caitlin Jenner. So glad she's standing up for what is right even if it goes against what the people around her believe. We need more courageous ppl like her that will go on TV and say this stuff and not just when they're hiding behind online anamimity.
Why are we calling Jenner a she? If they identify as that, fine. But they are not women.
Bruce Jenner*
Oh my goodness, let's just stop letting people do what they want. If your a male ,but feel like female that is your business. Others should not have to be forced to deal with it.
Deal with reality if your mail you're not going to change it no better how much you say you're a lamppole you're still a male this is got to the stage of ludicrous
Them existing and being out in public is you being forced to deal with it. Their disgusting fetish should be ostracized and illegal
They’re not a woman unless they chop “it” off otherwise dude looks like a lady
@@xstorm_8_shadowx Many men from war lost "it," they were still fully men. Male or female is ALWAYS known in the DNA. BUT WAIT, what about the rarest of conditions? Even in the rarest of genetic oddity the gender can be determined now days. There was actually a whole issue with children being forced to be a gender that would be "easier" for them do to their lack of "it" in the 1990's. Those children should sue, genetic testing was often done and the results ignored. There is still a known male or female gender found in the DNA even with unique, non-typical, DNA and growth patterns.
@@SRose-vp6ew slightly different analysis 😂
We have men’s sports and women’s sports for a reason.
@@kobepimpin
Huh? Sounds like you've sniffed a few dozen too many cans of paint.
Exactly
Exactly!
You are correct and if they want to allow Men to rule Woman's sports there is no reason to have Woman's sports until men are not allowed to call them self a women. These men that are dominating in Woman's sports would be back markers in men's.
Actually, I believe you are incorrect. Football, Baseball, Hockey, PGA Golf, etc - these are not "men" only sports - there is NO RULE that precludes a woman from competing for a position in any of those leagues. However, since these are sports where strength helps, you'll notice that NO WOMEN are able to play well enough to get one of the available spots. Women on the other hand, DO have women-only gender rules that restrict men from participating in their gender biased sports - example LPGA, WNBA, etc.
I can’t believe that this is actually a topic being discussed. The solution seems so obvious to me!
I agree it’s ridiculous
Oh it's from his video which started the whole thing. The one"he" started.
Only on FOX
For real tho there should be no investigation lol boy or girl.. fact of dna
@@lisahardy9707 Truth tellers Lisa, for sure!
Caitlyn is trans and even she disagrees and that’s saying something.
An issue like this requires compromise from both ends. Lia Thomas has a right to be who she wants to be and swim but the other cis women athletes have rights to have a fair competition.
We just have to figure out how to compromise.
There are women and there are trans women. There is no such thing as a "cis" woman. That designation was created only to marginalise biological and suggest there are infact two different designations of women. There are not. There are women and there are biological males living as women.
he is male, and should be referred to as such, you don't really get to choose your gender, you have to be what you are born to be, next life you'll be something else. Of course if you do not have children, life ends...pure common sense tells me that. That was even printed in the old testament in King James...abominations shalt surely die. New version is rewritten says you should be killed.
@@jackdawkeith yes, he did
There is no such thing as cis woman. It's just WOMAN. Stop this delusion already
Many Transexuals don't agree they know it's unfair!
This dude took the motto 'win at all costs' way too seriously.
Cheat to win - eddie geurrero
LOL
Lift and tuck.... Then can shatter some female records😂😂
A legit example of “win at all costs” executed LITERALLY. The dedication and complete lack of consideration of how advantaged they truly are. Her face should be next to the word “self-centered” worldwide smh 🤦🏽♀️
LOLOOOOLLLOLOLOLOL best comment
I admire that Kaityln Jenner is taking a stand for what is right and speaking out against this. This is completely wrong for all of Womens sports!!
The man was right it’s all about integrity
@@newempire158 you had to lower the tone.
Yeah she's definitely got some balls!
She did win woman of the year within like, 1 year of transitioning though 🤔
@@johnmcanelly8560 you'd tap that. Don't lie.
Has nothing to do with “liking” transgender folks.. it’s all about playing fair and this is not fair for the ladies! Not fair at all.. 😒
So what yes it's not fair but women marched for leias rights to be a woman that means exactly that warts and all . His size doesint matter in swimming its based on age and ability . like football you can be any shape and size as long as you make the grade ? 6ft players play againt 5ft players . Boxing is based on weight etc . No she's a woman now in all its glory . And they seen to it that you can be sued for saying any different. What gives women that right now all of a sudden because there not happy all of a sudden he's not a woman . Own the win reep the reward of that win
@@bazkiller he's a still a man transgenders need there own league
So you agree that he won fair and square??
shouldn't like those deluded monsters either.
"We are getting reckt on sports so we don't like this"
Much respect to Caitlyn for standing up. Thank you.
I have a freshman high school swimmer, she pushes herself at every practice to be line leader. Her hope is to swim at a big school. It will be a hard reality for her is she can’t get a scholarship because they start giving them to the trans community. I will stand for my daughter’s and women’s rights.
Give a thanks to Womanists.
She's better off not going to college, I know parents who , while paying the bills, don't even recognize their kids anymore.
You dont see trans men competing in mens sports against men....this proves it has nothing to do with transgenderism and everything to do with cheating
A free ride to college is a big incentive to put on a dress and fake taking hormone treatments.
@@chelshops exactly
OK, sport by sport approach might not be a bad idea. I have an alternative idea: how about that we only allow women to compete in women's sports? To me, it seems to make a lot of sense. If transgender athletes want to participate in sporting events, how about they get their own category? They compete among themselves instead. I really don't see any problem with that approach.
Female Male and Other.
XX
XY
XY(X)
XX(Y)
Fair to all
Exactly! No problem!
If they had their own category there wouldn’t be enough participants because there aren’t that many trans athletes.
That's the smartest thing I've read today!!
This man should not be competing in a woman’s sports because he is not a woman.
He's a bully, with no pride or self respect.
He can become a woman but he'll never be a good person.
Exactly! We WOMEN ARE SICK OF IT
@@Barnabydemossienaux Well y'all aren't sick enough of it because its happening more and more. Alot of women are so afraid to tell the truth.
Thank you !!!!
@@Barnabydemossienaux YES WE ARE!!👍
Every female swimmer should just refuse to participate
Are we beginning to realize that they aren’t going to stop trying to force this on us so now we have to put our foot down and say enough is enough!!!!!!
We dont have to allow any of this.We are told we do ,but the truth is we dont have to put up with it if we dont want to.
Agreed
100%
It's too late for Grace when a Nation rejects God. America is under judgement...
When you see a nation deep in sin, the insanity of a reprobate mind, and where they make laws to criminalize righteousness and to legalize gross evil....you know that nation’s under judgment. Too late for a nation, but not too late for the elect.
Fox is STILL censoring my posts, so I'll make it EVEN SHORTER...
Not going to happen. You are fooling yourselves. Ted Cruz called the Capitol Hill incursion a "terorist act". Your favorite politician will drop you like a cucumber and you won't know what hit you
More abuse from the propagandist media! It's a wonderful world...and the hits just keep on comin'
So sick of people being "scared" to say what's right and what's wrong. That's why there is so much wrong!
I did and I was harassed by activists.
What the hell happened to “see something say something”. Lol
Yeah and to bring up that objective truth from the Creator Lawgiver above us all well don’t do that! That’s just goobly goop now but science as currently being touted around in our media that’s some good stuff because well they said so and said science says.
@@iconicacans6407 Yeah! or "Just Say No"??
You just have to get to the point of not caring if people like you or not. One things for sure is truth is not popular but you must speak out when needed.
I appreciate that someone from the trans community such as Caitlyn is standing up for biological women. It’s unfair and it’s so sad these girls on the team can’t even be open about their feelings in fear of being “cancelled” 🤦♀️
Standing up for biological women? By winning woman of the year after being a “woman” for 15 minutes? Lmao
Yes, I appreciate that he is standing up against this, but by identifying as trans he is already conceding to the false narrative that allows this kind of sabotage of women to happen in the first place. Namely, that if a man identifies as a woman, then he objectively is one. It would be much more consistent if he also stopped identifying as “Caitlyn” and went back to being “Bruce”. A real man stands up for women, rather than LARPing as a woman.
@@lanadoesathing well I couldn’t agree more but unfortunately it seems as though men trying to be women and women trying to be men have no plans of changing anytime soon but when it bleeds into sports and such that’s an even bigger problem. At least he acknowledges that he is biologically male and there is a difference. But I do certainly agree with you.
@@mirinaxo1663 You’re setting the bar so low. Do you hear yourself? He won woman of the year after being a biological male for 60 and you’re applauding this? See this is why they in your sports now 😂😂😂
I like what Kaitlyn said about integrity which is lacking in Lia.
This is so wrong and so unfair to young women.
By the way, disagreeing with something doesn't make people 'bigoted'.
The LOUD MINORITY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, begs to differ, lmao. The favored MAJORITY needs to speak the fck up and GET LOUD.
Unfortunately though, many people who have this viewpoint ARE bigoted. No one on Fox uses she/her pronouns for Leah. They just call her a “man.”
Notice how Caitlyn is still respectful of her gender dysphoria… while trying to protect women’s sports.
@@anourtine6204 I guess it depends on a person's definition of a bigot. It appears to be a catch-all accusation applied to anyone who thinks differently from the voices that are loudest on social media 😏.
How would you, yourself define bigotry?
@@adailydaughter6196 That is the precise problem… the misconception that bigotry is a blurry line. It ain’t. It’s disgust, dislike or hatred of a group of people based on the fact that they are part of said community. Really simple. I’m trans, and there are people who would refuse to engage with me after learning this about me.
And bigots have the right to not talk to whoever they want. You have the right to dislike me…. But don’t make your dislike of me… MY problem. It’s your problem. Deal with your phobia on your own. You know?
@@anourtine6204 actually, part of the problem is that people assume others "don't like them" or "hate" them. It was a question. And why would I hate you.
Would it be fair or accurate to say you hate me (though you don't know me, my thoughts or actions and are not likely to ever do so), because I might not agree with everything you think. By that definition, everyone is pretty much a bigot then. So where does that get us?
It is heartbreaking for the women who worked so hard to be at the top of their sport.
Not if they’re feminists.
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 You sound like an idiot. Feminist doesn't mean you train for WOMEN'S sports then get pushed into a David vs Goliath situation and are expected to tolerate it. When women and men have equal bodies and equal chemistry/hormones maybe then there should be no delineation between men's and women's sports...but I wouldn't hold my breath.
@@susanelrawi7080 I don’t care what I sound like, specially coming from someone that has any type of consideration for these creatures known as feminists.
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 Clearly you don't care what you sound like. Feminism isn't about being any cartoon character you have drummed up in that convoluted head of yours. If asking for equal pay for doing the same job, respect at the workplace and at home, being treated as an intellectual equal offends you just remember...a woman birthed you. What would you desire for her ??
Yea, there are just hundreds of these her/him's in college sports.
I am a liberal and I find the idea of Lia competing against women absurd. Lia’s heart is bigger, has a larger lung capacity, is taller, broader, and stronger. This is BS.
That's because Lia is LIAM.
Well I had lost faith in all liberals. So good for you.
And having larger lung capacity is huge in swimming. Not only for oxygen exertion, but also because bigger lungs help you float higher up in the water which is very significant in being able to finish faster.
You libatards are the one's who got us here.
@@tudfrey we are no more a monolithic group than conservatives. Maybe you should make nice when people are agreeing with you instead of calling people names. Learn how to win.
Bless you Caitlyn .No one objects to trans wm living as their true selves but when their decisions wreck the lives of bio women that's just horrible .Lia Thomas is the most narcissistic ,cynical , shameless person.alive .
Mad respect to Caitlyn for saying it like it is. Gender disphoria is a life long struggle but that doesnt translate to "allow them to cheat to make them feel better"
Not true. Many pediatricians have stated that the vast majority of teens that suffer from this dysphoria overcome it in a short time and accept the gender they were born with. People like Jenner are the exceptions.
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390 The rate of suicide among people with gender dysphoria would beg to differ.
Men are not women lol if you think they are then just maybe Lucifer is your God
@@georgfriedrichhandel4390 Jenner is an autogynephile
@@Spencer-vq7se That doesn't mean that the majority of them don't overcome this dysfunction and go on to lead normal lives.
I can respect Caitlyn Jenner for being honest. We all know that biological men shouldn’t be in women’s sports
@@primategaberocco really? Wow that’s disappointing.
Remember when Caitlyn won woman of the year from glamour
@@prodogtwodogman3857 I vaguely remember that. But at least Caitlyn understands that she is born a man.
@@Tricybear21 as she accepts the woman of the year award,
@@prodogtwodogman3857 yes that’s crazy. But at least Caitlyn knows men shouldn’t be on women sports teams. Now I didn’t know Caitlyn was playing golf on the woman’s tee. I just don’t understand how people can justify men competing against women. Sports were separated by gender for a reason it’s just sad.
Thank you for standing up for our women’s sports!!♥️🤍💙
Do you notice, Jenner is not looking 'happy'? No TRANS....is happy!
@@littleme3597 I suspect Jenner has generated dysphoria after what he's done to himself.
Yes jenner he is just helping inferior gender. Kudos
Caitlyn plays women's sports.
She just completed in an all woman's golf tournament last year.
tammy bruce is spot on here. spectacles like lia's dominance do harm to public acceptance of trans people and the image of the trans community.
I really don't understand how a person who has advantages over another to this degree could even feel good about their achievement.
This^^^
And setting records in things like swimming, weight lifting, running (I'm sure pole vaulting and long jump are in danger) that no biological woman can ever break...
💯💯
Simple tile of power.
Do not compete with people above or at your ability level. Train with stronger people, compete against weaker people.
Exactly. It kinda shows how their brain is wired.
It’s a disgrace women have worked so hard for recognition in that sports to treated this way
Yet many championed for what is now rolling out.
Wats the women lib position on this issue??
I mean they kinda did it to themselves. They pushed the politically correct/woke/feminist agenda so hard it's started to backfire on them. If they dare call out trans women they're called transphobic terfs.
I can't wait till Jordan comes back and into the WNBA and scores 100 points down the road.
@@beeman4266 Yeah… I’ve seen Rowling get ripped apart for it. In the past, female athletes disguised themselves as males to have that section of sports for themselves. So, we’ll start again… Although, it wouldn’t make sense to place someone above your weight class into a lower weight class. So, trans athletes should have their own sports teams to make it even. Idk…
By Lia staying in woman’s sports and is okay with “breaking records “ knowing she has an advantage…… just shows her true character
Exactly selfish and inappropriate .
Yes true character of being a HE!!!!!!!!
His character not a her…
His
Not a she, but a he. Stop playing their stupid word games.
Why allowing Mans to participate in Woman's sports??
Total Insane
The 95% of us that still have some common sense need to stand up against these bullies and stop being afraid to say what's true and right
You are very optimistic that 95% of the population has common sense. Why interview Bruce as if it's healthy for people to be delusional chopping off their body parts. Just because he is slightly more rational, he's still a dude.
I’ll stand up, Bruce Jenner is a man, always will be. He will never be a woman. All his dna says that. Outwardly it’s ridiculous and how people can call him a she just makes me laugh
Absolutely!?
It's obviously not just a 5% who's for this. America is changing. No longer are we this old school ineffectively religious group of people. I'm not saying that I'm particularly for this trans sport thing.(I actually find sports rather pointless.) I'm just saying if you don't move with the rest of the world, you're going to get left behind or judged harshly by history.
@@45eno Exactly.
Caitlin Jenner is spot on regarding this. As both a former athlete who achieved great success, broke records, etc., and as a transgender woman herself, she understands the disproportionate advantage that Lia has competing against biological females as a biological male. This is not fair play.
Don't hear you spewing any of that crap about females fighting right alongside males in the navy, the army, or the military-OH WAIT, that would be sexist, misogynistic, and generalizing, and females are just as smart and just as strong as males and females can do anything that males can do!!! Don't hear you complaining about biological females being at a disadvantage when they participate in biological MALES' sports, and I DEFINITELY don't hear you complaining about biological females (like Heather Finch) having a disproportionate advantage competing against biological males and the biological males not having a fair play when those stronger biological females beat those biological males in males' sports, HEAVEN FORBID that, because that would be discriminating against the biological females LOL!!!! Hmm..... Interesting..... Talk about inequality smh.....
And if you have kids, send them to a foster home. They'll do much better without your brainwashing.
@@terryknight5869 this is the most idiotic comment I've read in some time. I think you need to read your own comment (very slowly) and think about it.
@@terryknight5869 mans having a mental breakdown over womens sports
HE*
When Caitlyn Jenner is the one saying she's tired about the whole woke phenomenon, you KNOW it's super bad !!
The fact that white people are now using the word woke and none of yall are using it right
What? Why are we pretending like Caitlyn hasnt always had conservative views??😂😂
Imagine a world where you think transgender right wingers are woke.
Maybe you need to learn some respect and learn who the problem is.
@@7GSC251 Hush
Exactly
This is one of the best commentaries I have seen. It's not about a particular community/lifestyle.....it's about being fair.
What blows my mind is the fact that he can beat these woman( win), and feel good about it, like there is literally nothing wrong with it. 🤦Wow so strong and brave of you.
Yeah, he's real hero isn't he?
@john Smith "other women" - LOL
FYI:- Lia Thomas is an XY-woman, the people she beat are XX-women
There should be no Y-chromosomes in women's sport, sporting events are about bodies not minds.
The fact that we have come this far, still renders me speechless.
Exactly. It’s ridiculous to even be having this conversation.
It's a lie straight from the pits of hell.
The fact that our society has regressed thus far leaves me speechless.
It's nothing but men who were inadequate in their own gender field, they've resorted to an "accepted" form of cheating-It's loophole to start winning.
The fact that there's a debate at all and such a deeply ignorant crowd that argue it's not unfair? Wow. So disconcerting; it's proof the woke crowd cares about nothing more than being politically correct and to such a degree that it removes all common sense.
Quite. We’ll put 👍🏻
My respect for Caitlin Jenner after this has absolutely gone through the roof, I’ll be honest I expected she would be all for this woke idiocy. Finally people are starting to speak out about this BLATANT cheating from Lia Thomas
I had no idea I had the same views on transgender athletes as Caitlin Jenner. Props!
Dont base ur opinion on just one statement/event/action/(...)! Look for consistency.
@@andiwand6132 She has always been consistent with her conservative views.
Probably because Caitlin competes as a guy before transitioning into a woman.
Most AGPs, like Jenner, are concerned only about maintaining their own sexual satisfaction from other people pretending tehy are women. Those who can see the way the wind is blowing will backpeddle in order to try to continue to groom people into allowing thenselves to continue to make others unconsenting, unwilling participants in their sexual activity.
Jenner himself has taken part in women's sporting competitions.
It was nice to hear Caitlyn say that this woke world is making her feel crazy, because sometimes when I see this crap and people going along with it I feel like I must be taking crazy pills.
But it's he/she not part of this ...???
Bruce Jenner competed with the men. Caitlin has no authority on this.
You mean Bruce Jenner, I think.
@@princesspiplaysbass Look I hate the way some trans people and their allies are twisting language, I hate the way they ask us to deny science, I hate the unfairness in women's sports but when a trans person like Caitlyn is actually willing to say she has gender dysphoria and understands it's hard for other people to understand, that is the kind of trans person I appreciate and don't mind using her name or preferred pronouns because she respects that yes this is new and strange to a lot of people instead of trying to cancel every person who cant keep up with every new gender twitter makes every other day.
@@eds6755 I won't use their pronouns. That would be compelling me to bend my belief. I will just go out of my way to not use them. Or most likely, I'd avoid the person altogether.
If “trans” people want to compete, they should do what women did and fight for a league of their own.
Btw, calling cross dressers “trans” doesn’t change anything.
I agree. That’s a great idea. There should be another league of their own.
Bruce Stop your Nonsense, Mental Health a Has-been
Cross dresser and trans are alot different nvm I didn't kniw
Exactly what I am thinking! They can compete with each other.
@jhaton Watson The vast majority of men who call themselves "trans" have no intention of getting surgery. They are fully functioning males wanting access to woman's facilities
So Lance Armstrong should have all his titles reinstated. Leah is a bigger cheat than Lance.
Was on the man's team, and wasn't good enough, so went to the woman's, hmmm, that seems to happen alot. People are ridiculous supporting this nonsense.....
I really appreciate Caitlin and Tammy's perspective on this. It's nice to hear that not everyone in their community is on board with that crap.
Martina Navratilova came out publicly against it a few years ago and the LGBT kicked her off the board. I will say both Caitlyn and Tammy still feed into the delusion that you can change genders because they call Lia "she". Lia's chromosomes are still a male and that will not change, Lia is a man as is Caitlyn
Could you imagine Jenner competing in women's sports? He kicked azz in men's sports. He knows how completely unfair this is.
She would literally dominate everything. She won gold in the decathalon as a male
EXACTLY!
She*
Just use she for gods sake. It makes more sense considering she looks like a woman. Doesn’t mean I think trans women should compete in sports against biological females.
He accepted Woman of the Year award during the obama administration.... he IS part of the problem he is complaining about. Hypocrite much?
He looks riduclous against these young ladies. He is proud of this ?how can he be?
Lia is just delusional and probably traumatized by her life that she just refuses to face the truth. But she’s not the oroblem, the problem are the people who allowed her to do this.
@@paradiseb5950 I disagree. He knew what he did was wrong . Why is he not ashamed to take medal from these young women.
As a trans person i found Lia's case unfair, being a biological male that just started the HRT and think you're just like a biological woman is wrong. In that case you have a very unfair advantage
Thank you for your sensibility and willingness to stand against this madness. I wish you luck and happiness on your transition.
@@wickedwonka9155 thank you! Even if there's people out there that just hate trans people i like to belive that they are just mad about Lia having a big advantage and not the fact that she's a trans woman.
It’s refreshing reading this from a trans person. Thank you for posting.
@@akaahri very very refreshing reading this! And thank you 🙏🏻
Amazing comments
"its about fair play, its about decency"...thank you Caitlyn. Well said.
I wonder if Bruce thought that when he killed that poor lady a few years ago.
Yeah, Bruce was right this time.
I wonder if Bruce thought it was decent to steal his 10yo daughter's clothes and mast rbate in them in front of a camera said daughter was unknowingly filming him with. She later watched the whole scene. Why is Fox or anyone else platforming this perv?
@john Smith tye interview just started off by saying Jenner refused to play in golf against women because he drives the ball at least 100 yards further than females on average 🤷
@@cbounds3265 I’m sorry what? I need an explanation asap
This is Sick. This Male swimmer thinks this is funny and the University needs to be penalized. The man’s wins need to be removed.
Well said. Those who like to harm others seem to find it amusing to do so. Why has our society become so patient and even weak when we are confronted with cruelty?
I think it's funny
@@klondor7432 you must not like women cause this certainly is hurting female sports athletes. But this will probably be the straw that breaks the camels back cause wonder who this coach will be recruiting this coming year cause I bet no more female swimmers will want to join the team. Maybe other men will want to join. He is trans nothing he is a man those who call him a she also has a problem.
Lia was winning and set 5 records at Penn in men's swimming just 4 years ago so how is this fair to the other women who have trained their whole life and now they have no chance at all. It is not about gender quality this is just outrageous and unfair to the other women who worked so hard to get to this point.
Bravo Caitlin Jenner for your honestly, integrity, and total respect of fairness regarding NCAA Womens Sports. Thank you for standing up for the truth.
he was a good man and still is ROFLMAO
honesty? He is lying about what he is. That MAN, Bruce, has no integrity.
I agree with what Jenner is saying. I don't have to agree with him, as far as gender. However, Jenner is saying, this is me but it is an unfair advantage.
I THINK if you are so inclined after years of therapy, that you are indeed happier as a different gender, then it is between you and God. However, you cannot compete in that genders competition. It is unfair.
You mean Bruce Jenner, right?
It took real balls to say it.
Parents need to stop hiding in the shadows and get out there and protest against this along with the women athletes.
Correct!!!
And loss their jobs for being trans phobic. That's why most hard working people can't afford to stand up to this farce. Thanks lefties and you know you're to blame for this sickness. Just saying
@john Smith when a male thinks he is female and dresses like one, it does NOT change his DNA. Facts are Facts and this is a scientific Fact. Time to live in the real world. We can still love one another without ignoring Facts.
@john Smith yada yada. Go peddle your crap somewhere else to people who buy it! He was born a man and he will always be a man! Period!!
@john Smith doesn't matter what they take, what they do or what they chop off! He will always be a male. Are you a trans by any chance? If so, it shows and so does your ignorance and hatred for truth.
Its so obviously unfair, it’s totally ridiculous this is even a story.
Agree 100%
What’s unfair about a former 6-1 male with huge hands and cardiovascular system dominating born female athletes who are undersized?
Youd be shocked at the people ive debated online that see men and women as the same lol. My thing is what happens if she decides to wanna be a “he” again after all the records are broken and medals won? It happens a lot during transition where they transition back
Seeing as heavy weight champs have had their title stolen, runners also, etc etc, I'm not shocked at all this is a convo, we are women, they are not, its unfair, and wrong on the rules and regs that this is allowed!
Most of what's going on these days is ridiculous and hard to believe it's the reality we live in.
Thank you Caitlin for believing and supporting women's sport God bless you 🙏🏽 ❤️
This could only happen in a fallen world.
AMAZIN!
So true
That’s where we are right now. Maybe it’s best if Putin takes over the world. He doesn’t stand for this insanity.
@@kateofbuckingham that's truth. He and Xi both said they aren't having it in their countries You know they are laughing at this. Who is fomenting some of this (tik tok....China). Defeating the US from within.
This is amazing. Its takes an actual transgender who was an actual former athlete to stand up against this crap.
Nobody is an "actual transgender". He's a man and he always will be.
She/he was a failed male swimmer that decided to dominate women. I see this as nothing less than insane. FJB
And Catliyn is right. And very courageous.
Yes if you aren't good enough to beat men. ... you beat women
He had success in men's swimming but nothing like now, in women
*He , there’s no she when referring to these people
10-4FJB
He*
YES! STOP THIS TRASH. NCAA supports men not women.
This is insanity!! How the hell people doesn't see it is beyond me. 😒
I doesn't know. 🤷♂️
You know it’s bad if even “caitlyn” Jenner agrees with you
They do indeed see. The think tanks
are testing our idiot metre. How we fight this is being recorded on their SPSS database.
@@Snugglez187 HAHA!!!
It's a system run by dudes for dudes. Just like everything else. Some men want to say they blame women for this, but they need to check themselves. Men run almost everything and they're the ones with the last say. Mostly. And Jenner is perfectly correct on what was said about this issue.
Caitlyn should know, she's an athlete and she's trans. If there's someone with authority in this issue it's her.
Grammatical error. He's trans and he did not go to the Olympics as a woman. Why??? Because HE is a man. Listen to HIS voice. Are U serious??
@@kevinforeman4485 lmao 💯… and even still, no authority anywhere other than reality TV.
@@kevinforeman4485 so sad that you need to mocke about someone's gender identity.
He
@@rinustechtips Dysphoria is a real thing, the only false thing is yuor manners and respect for other people.
When good honest people are scared to speak their mind for fear of attack by idiots and cheats, it’s really sad and very wrong.
100% truth!! Well said!!
You get called a racist. Just another tatict of left. If they are losing at something they call you a racist. Works every time.
That’s the reason women get by with so much crap ...
No one really believes men can be women, but an overwhelming amount of men, and women, believe men should get whatever they want.
@@gingerisevil02 I do not agree with either point at all. Clearly some people, although wrongly, believe humans can change gender. As for the last point, well that is nonsense.
Thank you to Kaitlyn for speaking out about this. That's a powerful voice in this situation.
"trapped in the wrong body" is the exact point ...they still have the advantage of growing up in a male body. These individuals were competitive as males. What are we doing to women's sports? Not fair! Not only unfair this is ridiculous and a total rejection of scientific evidence!
@NastyFuhk trust, it still is
Scientific evidence has become a very useful tool to manipulate masses nowadays. Kind of the same as statistics. So, for vaccination we need to follow science, but for body anatomy please disregard science.
Thats right. If a biological woman would inject herself with testosterone to get more strength and muscle growth it would be considered doping. But if lia thomas has an advantage because of her naturally produced testosterone it is suddenly okay :))
They are insane. They don't even know who they are. That's the diffinition of insanity denial of everything you are and imagining yu you are someone else that's insanity
If they are 'trapped in the wrong body', then who's body do they have?
NCAA is passing the book, thats pretty cowardly. I fully support the comments caitlyn and the other lady made. This is not about transphobia, this is about fair competition in womens sports.
My respect for Caitlyn increased immensely. I agreed with everything she said. I’ve heard a bunch about her, but not much from her. I’m glad I found this video.
Yes me to, well put
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I don’t understand the lifestyle choice (or what’s behind the choice - if it even is a choice) but I don’t need to understand. I’m a big proponent of you do you and I’ll do me as long as nobody is harmed. And I’ll respect anyone’s humanity regardless of what group they belong to (as long as they are not jerks or worse). However as Caitlyn stated, these trans athletes are harming the other biological women. My daughter is a D1 collegiate athlete and she has put in more than 8,000 hours of training to get to where she is and it would be grossly unfair if she had to compete against someone with more lung capacity, longer limbs, greater strength etc. due to their original biology.
He!!! Thats a dude. A dude ina dress.
He*
All women swimmers should revolt and stop competing! Let Lia swim alone!!
If you're born a man you should have to compete with men. You also need to use the right restrooms imo
Agree 100% No disrespect to Lia but when you get right down to it, he knows for a fact he has a male's body and performance levels.
So why do you candy coat and call this man she?
Lia along with Caitlyn are weird names for a guy. just saying
Lia knows she’s a cheater
@@spenser6353 I never like to talk ill about any person, but when it comes to fair competition in sports, even in boxing or MMA, they don't have heavyweights compete against feather weights correct? So why should a biological man be able to dominate female sports? Oh yeah that's right, because the left doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
@@mikexxx11 if you’re transphobic just say it and move on.
The true nature of what's going on is that some people are pretending to be something they really aren't and can never be no matter how hard they try, and worse, demand the rest of us pretend along with them or we'll get cancelled.
Yes, James. Women have been pretending they are physically equal to men for over 40 years now. They demand complete equality in funding and scholarships, which cheated males and didn’t even benefit females.
Don’t cry for the poor female athletes now. They want equality. This is equality.
@@sgtmomOK equality only works when we are being g true to it. Biological males in male sports and vice versa. I could wake up tomorrow wanting g to identify as a horse, but I won't do a jockey a lot of good if he throws a saddle on me to go compete. People need to be realistic and understand that they may feel like a woman in a males body, but they are and will always be a male.
@@sgtmomOK You're right Sgt Mom, the women's movement created this monster, but for them to admit this is not fair, would be to admit that there are physical differences and advantages for males, and they just can't bring themselves to do that. They would rather keep this going, even though they know it's unfair, than to admit they are wrong.
@@tonysc7610 You summed it up -to perfection. The silence from the perpetrators of this sick hoax…is deafening. From the pandering politicians, the feminists at the trough, to the Mad Moms and Go Gurl dads… there are no innocents.
@@tonysc7610 why do women always get the blame for mens shitty behaviour. Every. Single. Time. Women keep being told that the patriarchy was never a thi g because men were so kind as to give them the vote 🤣 yet, we somehow magically clicked our fingers, prayed for inequity in sports, and boom - you're wish is my command. But men gave women the ite coz no patriarchy. Make it make sense ma man. Say you're an incel and no sane woman would touch you with a barge pole. Now go an hug your mother and apologise to her for being a failure of a man.
Enforcing feelings, the U.S suffers heavily from this.
"I'm sure she's a wonderful woman"... Ya'll are contradicting yourselves. He is a man and that's why it is unfair for him to compete against real women.
That situation should have been resolved before it even started. I’m sorry folks but this is ridiculous and i hope the people that know better will do better.
I think this will be the "ripping the bandaid off" period. This will resolve, hopefully with different categories for men's, women's and trans.
The unfortunate thing is that the women who are affected during this period will never get their chances back and their abilities will be forgotten.
@@winsomemartinez Yeah, I feel terrible for the women that lost out on something they can never get back. And to think that it didn’t have to be that way. People that were thinking that this is wrong should’ve taken action in the very beginning. Who knows what bad things would’ve happened to them because they took action but whether it’s them, me or you, someone has to do it.
It’s easy to post a comment saying these things but taking real action is the only way we’re going to survive.
These men are men, not women. They should not be called "she". It's truly insane. Love these people but will not placate to the lie.
I respect Caitlyn Jenner for speaking some common sense 💯
Instead of calling out the NCAA, we need to start calling out Lia Thomas himself. Every 20-something-year-old has a firm grasp of right and wrong. The fact that he is willing to swim with females knowing the physical advantages he has just shows that he lacks integrity and competitive spirit.
This is it and all those enabling this behavior.
And zero self respect.. and zero respect for women or other Transgenders..along with removing progress in rights transgenders have gained and proving those that fought against trans rights they were correct all along. A biological male will never understand or be afemale
You hit the nail on the head💯
Thank you for keeping on point that Lia is a male competing in women's sports.
Lia just wants to be herself, a competitive athlete. Everyone should strive to support trans athletes as well as cisgender athletes. They can all be accommodated.
The other swimmers should refuse to compete. Stand on the box and watch her swim.
Great point of view. Hopefully the swim team takes your advice
You mean " him"
watch him swim, you mean.
This is the solution.
S.C.H.O.L.A.R.S.H.I.P.S.
You gotta feel for the poor girls that trained for years, compete in good faith and fairness, and have to deal with this stupidity.
Well all the wars fought mainly by men and their sacrifice of their lives, this is the time for girls to sacrifice a little of their time, it ends when they say no n stop competing with these men
Caitlyn Jenner I love you for speaking the Facts and truth 💯
"Responsability and Intergrity on what you're doing" - Thank you Caitlyn for speaking up on this!!
If anyone knows it would be Caitlyn. BRUCE Jenner was one of my heroes growing up in the 70s. After all he Won Gold! And I still respect him for becoming a woman. She's not trying to compete against anyone and she uses her common sense.
Could you imagine the parents that spent a lot of money and time spent over many years on their daughter's sport careers, only to have it ripped away for "inclusivity?"
We can't even get women's sports in some areas for high school now because schools would rather not have a team for them and deal with this kind of fiasco. Kudos to Caitlyn for being honest and standing up for those being down trodden.
@@ashleighnunez5532 Very good points !! 👍👍👍❤️😘
Fair enough. They’ve cut out so many men’s college sports because women insisted on tit for tat “equality”, yet didn’t bother to enter the lesser known sports that are no longer sponsored for the men that participated.
Ashleigh Nuñez, Jenner was on here saying that trans dudes shouldn’t play women’s sports though.
Agreeing with what you said. Did you watch and listen?
.... and not to mention naked trans women walking around the girls locker rooms with their junk hanging out compliments of 0bama's fundamentally Trans-formed America with 0biden as the teleprompter reading figurehead.
@@ashleighnunez5532 yea I agree with you , sheee isn’t the one to be a advocate for anything .
Thank you Bruce & Catalin for your support in Women's Sport...
"Lia" is not a woman. It's all in his head. Stop this nonsense once and for all.
Correct, and women should never ever be allowed to compete with boys or men. I used to hate seeing a girl wrestle a boy, and everyone thought it was cute.
One's perceptions are all in their head, including your feeling like a woman. Your statement, from your head, is irrational and silly. Try again.
@@KrustyKlown No, your statement is quite literally in logical denial of scientific fact. Try again clown.
Arguing about perception is pointless. The dude is not a woman though.
Exactly it's ashamed and disrespectful to real women
Let them create "they" own sports and compete on a fair playing field.
Best comment of the century!
Great idea, the problem is that certain trans ppl still will not be happy, probably because 'men' will lose to 'women' and that's just not fair now is it🤔
@@toooldforthis5093 nope because then they wont be special anymore.
Yes exactly. I always said men vs men, women vs women and trans vs trans.
Yes !!
"This isn't about trangenderism at all. This is about fair play. It's about decency... It's about respecting the community and making decisions that are best, in general for the people you're with."
That's not true though. It's all about transgenderism. You can't have it both ways. Fact is, he is a man. Nothing he does will change that. You can cut off your "parts", put on a wig and identify as a woman, but you will always be a man. That's the reality and it always will be.
@@IronKnee963 Your response is a perfect example of what happens when you don't read to comprehend, but read just to reply.
That's the point of the statement. "It's not about transgenderism"... suggesting that it's not an attack against transgenderism. It's just unfair to have biological men fight against women, even if they transition. 😐
@@aubreynaarcher8916 I was about to write the same thing, until I saw your comment.
It IS about transgenderism, because transgender ideology is what allowed this kind of indecency to happen in the first place.
The fact that you’re not willing to attack transgenderism itself is exactly the problem here, because the entire premise that a man can become a woman is based in transgenderism. Even using terms such as “biological man” and “biological woman” is stupid, because you’re implying that there is such a thing as a non-biological man or woman, which is completely false. A man is a man, no matter how he identifies. If a man identifies as a woman, it does not make him a woman, it makes him a man who thinks he’s a woman. There is no lack of comprehension on @9 9’s part here, you are simply wrong.
The immense amount of transphobic comments here says otherwise.
Thank you so much Caitlyn, your views are so, so very valid in this issue.
I'm a 30 year old man but identify as 10 year old. I can't wait to see your kids on the football field. May the best child win 🤟
My thought exactly!
BBBAAAAHAHA!! Great perspective!
This!!!
😂😂😂
What is not funny is that there are biological men who are 25-30 who are saying that they identify as 10 yrld girls. So laugh all you like. It's sadly very serious.
Dude I never thought that I would agree with Caitlyn Jenner but here I am.
And this is how we should function as a society. Open mindedness always wins
Caitlyn Jenner is a Republican, you agree on a ton of things…
He he knows first hand being an Olympian that’s completely unfair
😂😂😂😂💯
Her name is
Bruce
They should boycott, quit the team until they fix the problem.
In doing that a lot of these young ladies will lose their scholarships.
Yep.....
@@Mwoods2272 Or lose it to males I take forfeiting nobody wins.
Yes but being your best in the sport has a short window. So think about it, they pull out and it’s possibly over for them. Gotta have a better answer and I don’t know what it is. But don’t tell women to quit.
@@danak8782 They're squeezed are of that sport already, thanks to him. Until he's around, no game, no winning for biological female . He should run with a male, or transgender group !!!
Bruce should speak out against it. He knows it is wrong
Stop legitimizing this by calling it "trans" policy or "trans" swimmer. He's a man, & the policy is about men competing against women. End of story. Using the word "trans" is no better than tiptoeing around pronouns. It would be reasonable to use the word "delusional," however.
Exactly
Wasn't this woman on our Wheaties box in the 70's
Back when HE was Bruce!!