@@thrice5560 please explain? If I went with a new CX5 at a similar trim level that I would want it would be 10K + more... I could get a 2021 GT for 26k and a new 2023 base trim goes for 30k+
The 23 impreza sedan 5 MT is a really good value if you can find one. Picked a new one up a few months ago for 22k with add on features and AWD. Fill ups have ranged between 34 - 41 mpg us. Good informative video btw.
I gotta second that. I was dumbfounded that the Impreza and Crosstrek don’t appear near the top of this list, especially because of Subaru’s reliability that outstrips most other makers. They aren’t more expensive than half the others in this list.
I would add the VW Jetta GLI to the list. My son bought a 2023 with the DSG for $31,000 and with 20K miles on it now he loves it. Black with the Black package it is the best looking Jetta of this generation that I’ve seen. To me it feels like a long wheelbase GTI without the sketchy Haptic Touch controls.
Honestly, I think the GTI base trim and Mazdas (CX30 or the Sedan) are the best value cars out there. The sedan Carbon Edition is hard to beat if you want “luxury”. GTI base trim if you want fun with lots of tech (compared to its rivals).
Yes, but I'm surprised he didn't include the mazda cx5 on the 29k-35k list. Reliable, stylish, premium interior, and cheaper than a Honda that's listed there. Idk.
For value, I'd add the Subaru Impreza BASE model. Built in Japan... 16 gal. fuel tank. 5-door versatility. $24,435 with the essential $350 wheel package.
@@Diego-oy6en You're not entirely wrong; but I'd suggest that the Sport trim is actually the same or worse (unnecessary larger rims/lower profile tires for rougher ride and less practicality plus the horrendous "upgraded" console/entertainment system)
@@DavidMichaelKalman I guess it all depends on what you value. I personally place importance on upgrades etc which is why I would have to go with the RS but at 32K that is a hard sell when you have the civic hatch
@@Diego-oy6en I agree. When I think of "value," I'm usually thinking of essentials instead of upgrades. I'm currently considering a Forester Premium. It's got all the basic features at the best price point. I view it as a better value than Crosstrek because for around the same price it's more capable (size-wise), has the power driver's seat, pano roof, and defaults to the 182HP engine (which should be the base engine for Impreza and Crosstrek as welll. I'm sure the RS benefits from the added power, but to me it's over-styled, pretending to be a hot hatch when it's still a dad car.)
The Impreza is too close in price to the Crosstrek in my area. The difference is maybe a couple grand and there’s just not enough of an argument to choose the Impreza over the much better Crosstrek.
I would watch and value your videos about used vehicle spectrums. From my experience, new to 10-year-old vehicles make up a lot of the bank loan territory? Classics really deserve their own video. xD Keep doing great Tyler!
Bought a 23' Impreza this year right after the 24s came out and got under MSRP for it. Not the perfect car, but hard to beat a brand new AWD car for 20k
I own a 23 Integra , I love Everything about the car , yes it may be a civic engine but I still love it . Get a lot of respect in the car scene and it looks a lot better in person .
I just bought a 2024 Mazda 3 sedan. I don`t like the look of the CX-30. I considered the Trax because it`s about the same price but it`s unavailable for months in my area.
Good list for dollar per dollar cars. I figured the Mitsubishi mirage would get on the list for the cheapest. Def do a used car one. Looking for a full sized sedan, van or suv to replace my 2016 cruze with.
Toyota Camry 2014. Reliable and will last a lifetime. Can find for 14-17 for good ones. Not fun, but it's better than leasing a Kia and having it stolen or catch fire. More reliable than any Chevy product too
I think some real nice budget cars you guys can look at are the Chevy Malibus, they’re great on gas, a nice daily driver, and they come with different trims, which for the most part are all below msrp, you can get the 2022 models between 17k-24k, I got one myself and I’ve had no issues whatsoever, very elegant car and they do have the RS model for those sports guys.
Might be a while before sanity returns to the used market, but I'd be curious what a used guide would suggest. I was partial to the Mazda3 if I had to buy something now. Which Mazda becoming SUV-heavy makes me wonder what future it has..
The Kia Sorento X-Line SX Prestige should have been on this list. It offers more bang for your buck in the $40k SUV bracket. There are even aftermarkets parts for it because it shares the same engine as the Kia Stinger 2.5T.
I agree with a lot of this. Few things. You're missing the VW Jetta Sport 6-speed Manual at ~$23K. Drives like a MK4 GTI 1.8T. You're too high on the WRX. It should start with a $2X,XXX based on the interior and features. A base GTI S or Elantra N over the lower WRX trims all day. GR Corolla Core over the WRX higher trims all day.
$30-40k are normal car prices going back 30 plus years inflation adjusted. Look at the same cars above from 10, 20, 30 years ago and adjust for inflation.
The Subaru Impreza starts at 29k in Canada. That plus fees and tax are already over 30k, so it will be a no for me, and like you said, the Toyota Corolla is pretty boring. I think the Mazda 3 will be my to go car unless I really manage to justify a CX-30.
I suppose, it's a practical alternative to the Mustang though if we're comparing the ecoboost stang to the pentastar Challenger and only one is to be mentioned, I'm going with the ford personally. A V8 model will probably make the used list though, RIP.
Kia Forte GT2 can be obtained with heated and ventilated seats, stop & go cruise control, 201hp with either a DCT or a manual... for $26K. It's an absolute steal. The 1.6T it uses has been around for ages and has been proven reliable over the years.
I didn’t think you could get the gt2 for that cheap but that’s another good option. I’ve only driven the Elantra and Jetta GLI so far (a car that also deserves a place here)
@@Realistick The Kia dealer near me had one for $27k, fully loaded with some extra dealer-installed options. You can get purely base models that are still decently well-equipped and have the same power for a few thousand dollars less. One of the best bargains out there.
That's a good option that skipped my mind, I haven't driven one just yet but that price is strong for what you get, and unbeatable if you're looking for rwd!
Wrx would be the easiest choice but I’d also check out the Acura Integra or mazda3 turbo if you want something more soft. GR corolla if you’re okay with some mild pain and Civic Type R if you’re amazing at finding cars for msrp!
GTI. Which you can get well below 45K. Take good care of it, and the reliability is actually good. I really love mine & I’m a 59 year old female. It’s fun & practice & affordable
Great list. I've had my 2024 Chevy Trax for 2 months, 3,000 miles and love it. I tried to get a Maverick, but dealers are asking for premiums. I laughed when you mention the Mazda CX-30's price, go try and find one for less than $30k. Actually, many of your stated prices are not what they're actually selling for! Quoting MSRP in 2023 is cute, you can't find cars for MSRP.
Interesting? Royal South Mazda in my town along with the next closest mazda store in greenwood Indiana had them all at msrp, many below 30k this whole year. Mazda just bumped prices for 2024 unfortunately but they still exist under 30k. Currently, most of these cars are available at MSRP in Indiana (I specifically mention which ones are not or hard to find at sticker, like the Maverick). If you can't find these cars at sticker, I feel bad for your region or you haven't put in much effort! Honda, Toyota Hybrids and any specialty enthusiast cars/trucks make up the bulk of what's marked up these days.
Maybe it's New York dealers? I know that the only cars that were at MSRP are some Kias, Hyundais and the Chevy Trax. Even the Trailblazer had "Market Adjustment" pricing. @@Realistick
@@xltoffroadbear That’s likely it, when I tried to buy a GR corolla earlier this year, I found the east coast to be the most ridiculous on their pricing!
I know a lot of cars you said if it had a stick shift option. But, I would like to see a video that only talks about budget stick shift automobiles you can buy.
@@Realistick You could add some upcoming and rumored cars at the end if you want more cars to talk about. You might also mention how big or small the car is. For those of us that like little cars to take corners in. Thanks. OH is there a bad budget car list? I was just thinking the mini wasn't on here. Thanks again
If you’re budget is 40k, yes🥸 jokes aside, this list is looking at the the most value minded cars in the hottest segments. A three row crossover, a performance car, or a luxury car naturally cost more than the cheap compacts you find below $30k.
cool. but i'd add 'efficient' to the mix. You should have considered Camry hybrid, or Accord. Or prius, etc etc. Maybe that's just what i'm looking for. cheap/efficient car to drive to work, park for 8 hours, then drive home. maybe pick up kids, or drop off, so scratch (unfortunately) the miata
Unfortunately those cars are much more expensive and all mentioned tend to pack markups. I’d probably buy an accord over the legacy or kia k5 but you pay for that.
@@Realistick you can buy a Camry hybrid at msrp. Or “srp”. Might have to shop around, but there are Toyota dealers selling for sticker. Probably can get normal Camrys for under msrp. Same likely holds true for Corolla and some others. Even Priuses. Priusi? Just not a prime. Cost a bit more than a Subaru or Kia, but probably higher resale. Great vid though!
Subaru is pretty good at making sure stealerships don't mark their cars up above sticker * Ford has left the chat * * Toyota has left the chat * * Mopar has left the chat * * Honda has left the chat * * GM has left the chat *
I'm thinking about the CR-V or the HR-V, I'm 17 and I'm saving and I'll have around 20,000 by time I'm 18. I just want something reliable and at the same time I don't really WANT a smaller car, it just doesn't make sense to me, spending 25K for a car when I can spend 30K-35K on a SUV that has more space and that has better ground clearance.
I’d recommend the CR-V if you’re willing to spend 35k but if you don’t need a big backseat, the Mazda CX-5 select is 30k and comes with similar features to an EX CRV awd! I’d go HR-V if you don’t mind it being a bit lethargic, it’s a great value
I enjoy this video well enough but I think if you're making a video about budget cars, you really should talk more about cost of ownership and gas efficiency.
Where I live in Québec we get 5 months with snow and some bad roads so Subaru is incredibly popular. That being said I drive a CX-30. Great on great roads but it's losing its charm on bad roads. which we have a lot. (And the visibility is AWFULL). That and snow. I ride it for free so I don't mind... I would bet that Subaru is gonna sell a crazy amount of imprezas 2024 in the belle province. More than in their wildest dreams. If they can keep up with the demand.
Really want a Kia K5, but I’m really hesistant to buy one as the entire reason I’m in the market for a new car is because my 2015 Sonata is burning oil like crazy and chipping paint all over at 89k miles. Hope someone can help assure me on the reliability of the K5 compared to old Kia’s/Hyundais.
I’d like to assure you, but can’t quite do it, I know with the Elantra/forte, the switch from theta 2 to theta 3 engines helped reduce oil consumption but I don’t know about the k5/sonata just yet
Just bought a 2024 civic sport in cash at 22 id say these are affordable lol you don’t need a brand new car as your first. My 2012 garbage made me so much money from 16yo to 22yo
I will not stand for the Outback and Crosstrek being left off this list /s Great list and you are right, Subaru has a leg up for not having "as many" bad dealers as opposed to other manufacturers.
I couldn't give Subaru the sweep! I think the Crosstrek and Outback are better but if forced to choose which of the three offers the best value proposition, the Forester takes it for me. The subie dealers are the real winners though, I drove by a honda dealer here in indiana and was grossed out by the markups on EVERY car.
My 6 1/2 yr old Crosstrek has been v reliable so far ..... I would of bought a RAV4, but the Crosstrek was alot cheaper & the AWD in sand has saved me 🤔
I haven’t driven the type r or latest SI but id probably say the GTI, the steering wheel comes out nice and far, the wrx is a little bigger though so it may work out better if you’re planning on using the backseat too.
@@RealistickHow about from the compact to midsize suv, I'm like you where I don't like soo much bolstering. I'm looking for a reliable fun car/suv that can fit me but I don't need a huge family vehicle. 2 row is fine with me. I also don't care for back seat leg room long as I can fit in the front comfortably.
@@tulgaadc Subaru Outback then, headroom isn’t crazy good and itself not too wide if I remember correctly but the Limited/touring get a seat extender that gives you stellar thigh support! Probably the best seats in the price point. A Honda CR-V is another good option from what Ive tested but they’ve gotten quite pricey.
How sad it is when $4000 is the top price range for budget cars. Why greedy dealers aren’t brought to book by manufacturers is beyond me. Case in point I was looking at a 2023 dodge charger king Daytona that the MSRP price was 102,000, the dealer add an addendum price of 72000 !!! That is robbery
The $40k range also has the Santa Fe Limited & Calligraphy which is a bigger version of the CX-5 with better second row passenger space, better cargo space, & more tech features than the CX-5
Pay cash for a car and do not finance. A brand new car depreciates by 10% of more as soon as it is driven off the dealers lot. Save your money and purchase a used vehicle around 3-5 years old and invest the money that you would have wasted on car payments.
Not bad advice or anything but It’s been complicated lately and it largely depends on the car you’re buying. lately, used prices have been so bad that buying new actually makes more sense than lightly used cars due to the warranties and free maintenance with some models. The interest kills people right now but a lot of people can’t afford a decent car without financing. Weird times right now.
@@Realistick The car market is tough to navigate right now and you’ve made a lot of valid points. Your video promotes dialogue which is proven by all the comments and I appreciate that. Thank you.
No car under $30K here is worth considering. Love the ND Miata but I need more car for my commute/utility in my daily and can't find these at MSRP. Love the new BRZ - but it has to be pre-ordered with a 6 month min wait list - and if pre-ordered cars aren't picked up, or dealer orders do take delivery - they're going to be sold at heavy markups on the floor. Have dealers in my area that will sell WRX and Civic SI at MSRP without "markups" but in lieu of markups, they'll have post factory but pre-delivery to dealer "equipment packages" that come with basic things like floor mats to non-essentials like lip spoilers at insane premiums. And after dealer fees, TTT, Civic Si are $35K starting and WRX are $40K - embarrassing for a premium trim WRX that comes with less amenities than the prior gen premium trim, and $8K more than what my prior gen Limited cost me. All these cars took a $10K price jump in the span of one new generation, and the used prior-gen versions of these cars are only a $3-5K price saving even if they're a decade old. These are no longer affordable unless you're making $120K/yr with a $1,000/mo mortgage from pre-2019, or $140K and renting.
If you were wanting a $10k-$30k used car video, I made one and it is linked in the description of this video!
When 30k-40k is now considered budget. We're screwed
exactly what i thought seeing this in my recommended
yeah the cutoff is crazy lol hes delusional to say that shits really affordable with the current housing market.
Used car interest rate at 8 plus percent with good credit, a new car is probably the better option
This is pretty normal historical speaking inflation adjusted prices. 1994 Camry started at $20k, that's $42k inflation adjusted.
Definitely do one for used cars. Preferably 5 yrs old or older.
Noted, I'll try to condense my thoughts over the next couple of weeks and film it!
Thoughts on a used CX 5? Looking for something under 25k and lowish miles
@Diego-oy6en how can you justify used car in this market?
@@thrice5560 please explain? If I went with a new CX5 at a similar trim level that I would want it would be 10K + more... I could get a 2021 GT for 26k and a new 2023 base trim goes for 30k+
@@Realistickplease because we all trying to spend less money but on a great reliable car with good amount of tech
Jesus 20-40k being affordable is the new normal, depressing
Seeing high 20s listed as "budget" makes me want out of this timeline
The 23 impreza sedan 5 MT is a really good value if you can find one. Picked a new one up a few months ago for 22k with add on features and AWD. Fill ups have ranged between 34 - 41 mpg us.
Good informative video btw.
22k? What State?
I gotta second that. I was dumbfounded that the Impreza and Crosstrek don’t appear near the top of this list, especially because of Subaru’s reliability that outstrips most other makers. They aren’t more expensive than half the others in this list.
I call bullshit
Reliable and good awd, but extremely boring with tons of cheap ugly plastic inside.
I would add the VW Jetta GLI to the list. My son bought a 2023 with the DSG for $31,000 and with 20K miles on it now he loves it. Black with the Black package it is the best looking Jetta of this generation that I’ve seen. To me it feels like a long wheelbase GTI without the sketchy Haptic Touch controls.
I definitely agree it’s an underrated car for sure. It’s a fun car to drive with good power.
Honestly, I think the GTI base trim and Mazdas (CX30 or the Sedan) are the best value cars out there.
The sedan Carbon Edition is hard to beat if you want “luxury”. GTI base trim if you want fun with lots of tech (compared to its rivals).
I disagree. Gti with 240 hp that's not even wheel power. I'll pass
Yes, but I'm surprised he didn't include the mazda cx5 on the 29k-35k list. Reliable, stylish, premium interior, and cheaper than a Honda that's listed there. Idk.
Hats off to the brands that build the infotainment system into the dash and don't slam it on the dash like an afterthought.
That’s ugly though
I used to not like it when the screen were over the dash but since I’ve own the 2019 cx-5 i like it better that way now
Damn $40k is consider budget nowadays.
For 40k, just go electric instead. It will be cheaper after incentives too
@@stealthisjust shut up lmao
People are still thinking in 2010s dollars. Inflation has changed things and so have incomes.
@@carguy0389he’s literally right though, if you’re gonna spend $40K anyways, than just go electric or get a hybrid
Nice pics! I do love how you stand in front of the WRX the whole time, subliminally giving us all a jones for it, once again haha!
The Rav4 Hybrid LE I think should be the TOP of the list. The reliability, standard features, room, power and fuel economy are all fantastic.
For value, I'd add the Subaru Impreza BASE model. Built in Japan... 16 gal. fuel tank. 5-door versatility. $24,435 with the essential $350 wheel package.
But then you are driving the most meh car ever made, you need at least the sport trim to stand it
@@Diego-oy6en You're not entirely wrong; but I'd suggest that the Sport trim is actually the same or worse (unnecessary larger rims/lower profile tires for rougher ride and less practicality plus the horrendous "upgraded" console/entertainment system)
@@DavidMichaelKalman I guess it all depends on what you value. I personally place importance on upgrades etc which is why I would have to go with the RS but at 32K that is a hard sell when you have the civic hatch
@@Diego-oy6en I agree. When I think of "value," I'm usually thinking of essentials instead of upgrades. I'm currently considering a Forester Premium. It's got all the basic features at the best price point. I view it as a better value than Crosstrek because for around the same price it's more capable (size-wise), has the power driver's seat, pano roof, and defaults to the 182HP engine (which should be the base engine for Impreza and Crosstrek as welll. I'm sure the RS benefits from the added power, but to me it's over-styled, pretending to be a hot hatch when it's still a dad car.)
The Impreza is too close in price to the Crosstrek in my area. The difference is maybe a couple grand and there’s just not enough of an argument to choose the Impreza over the much better Crosstrek.
The Corolla is the best bang for your buck.
If you need an AWD, the Forester is the best
Subaru WRX is selling for a really good deal here in Canada. I just quoted a lease base WRX for $155 biweekly/24months and it's avaible!
it is a very good deal
I'm only interested in manual cars so my options are limited. Luckily there are still some options new.
I would watch and value your videos about used vehicle spectrums. From my experience, new to 10-year-old vehicles make up a lot of the bank loan territory? Classics really deserve their own video. xD Keep doing great Tyler!
Bought a 23' Impreza this year right after the 24s came out and got under MSRP for it. Not the perfect car, but hard to beat a brand new AWD car for 20k
A much better deal than the new one (which is still a great car too, just less value-minded)!
Gave a lot of us mid-late 90's people a good point of entry into the Subaru brand
@@brinsonmcbride mid-late 90's people? you mean you were born in the mid to late 90s?
@@braetonwilson4296 yup
Thumbs up on having a car video that has cars that us mere mortals can afford! Kind of sick and tired of reviews of cars that cost as much as a house.
I own a 23 Integra , I love Everything about the car , yes it may be a civic engine but I still love it . Get a lot of respect in the car scene and it looks a lot better in person .
Hi, very useful video Tyler. The video about used cars would be really nice, maybe even some performance options too(?)
I did slide a few in there, but a video focused on them could be a good idea too!
I just bought a 2024 Mazda 3 sedan. I don`t like the look of the CX-30. I considered the Trax because it`s about the same price but it`s unavailable for months in my area.
How’s the sedan been treating you?
I'm seriously thinking about the trax. We've been looking at them. I drive a BMW But its burning oil and too expensive to fix. Its 2015
Mazda gang 😎
The dealer markups on the Acura Integra are ridiculous. I'll never pay over MSRP, especially for a mainstream car.
We personally got a Santa Cruz this year as it is incredibly practical, available at 4yr 0% apr, and around 28k. Very hard to beat that!
Good list for dollar per dollar cars. I figured the Mitsubishi mirage would get on the list for the cheapest. Def do a used car one. Looking for a full sized sedan, van or suv to replace my 2016 cruze with.
Toyota Camry 2014. Reliable and will last a lifetime. Can find for 14-17 for good ones. Not fun, but it's better than leasing a Kia and having it stolen or catch fire. More reliable than any Chevy product too
I think some real nice budget cars you guys can look at are the Chevy Malibus, they’re great on gas, a nice daily driver, and they come with different trims, which for the most part are all below msrp, you can get the 2022 models between 17k-24k, I got one myself and I’ve had no issues whatsoever, very elegant car and they do have the RS model for those sports guys.
Might be a while before sanity returns to the used market, but I'd be curious what a used guide would suggest. I was partial to the Mazda3 if I had to buy something now. Which Mazda becoming SUV-heavy makes me wonder what future it has..
The used list I have so far is all over the place (finding the balance between reliable and affordable is tricky) though the Mazda3 is on that one!
Yes please! Do a video like this for used cars.
The Kia Sorento X-Line SX Prestige should have been on this list. It offers more bang for your buck in the $40k SUV bracket. There are even aftermarkets parts for it because it shares the same engine as the Kia Stinger 2.5T.
I agree with a lot of this. Few things.
You're missing the VW Jetta Sport 6-speed Manual at ~$23K. Drives like a MK4 GTI 1.8T.
You're too high on the WRX. It should start with a $2X,XXX based on the interior and features. A base GTI S or Elantra N over the lower WRX trims all day. GR Corolla Core over the WRX higher trims all day.
That’s all bullshit
$30-40k are normal car prices going back 30 plus years inflation adjusted. Look at the same cars above from 10, 20, 30 years ago and adjust for inflation.
The Subaru Impreza starts at 29k in Canada. That plus fees and tax are already over 30k, so it will be a no for me, and like you said, the Toyota Corolla is pretty boring. I think the Mazda 3 will be my to go car unless I really manage to justify a CX-30.
I’d like a used car video like this
I actually made one! ($10-30k budget)
Oh thanks!
@@dawnevans2236 You're welcome! Thanks for watching
Jesus 20-40k being affordable is the new normal, depressing
Do one for used. Please!
lol is crazy to see this prices in the US. the Pilot in my county starts at 65K and the elite version goes up to 73K
Good point. Many Americans are totally unaware of how expensive cars and gas are in other places!
Dodge Challenger should be able to squeek into the enthusiast list, VERY entertaining drive.
I suppose, it's a practical alternative to the Mustang though if we're comparing the ecoboost stang to the pentastar Challenger and only one is to be mentioned, I'm going with the ford personally. A V8 model will probably make the used list though, RIP.
Kia Forte GT2 can be obtained with heated and ventilated seats, stop & go cruise control, 201hp with either a DCT or a manual... for $26K. It's an absolute steal. The 1.6T it uses has been around for ages and has been proven reliable over the years.
I didn’t think you could get the gt2 for that cheap but that’s another good option. I’ve only driven the Elantra and Jetta GLI so far (a car that also deserves a place here)
@@Realistick The Kia dealer near me had one for $27k, fully loaded with some extra dealer-installed options. You can get purely base models that are still decently well-equipped and have the same power for a few thousand dollars less. One of the best bargains out there.
@@FSAPOJake ah gotcha, that sounds like another good option!
Great video!
Regarding the luxury options Cadillac CT4 is worth mentioning, starts at $34k and uses the great Alpha platform LONGITUDINAL engine, RWD
That's a good option that skipped my mind, I haven't driven one just yet but that price is strong for what you get, and unbeatable if you're looking for rwd!
I was about to ask about the Jetta GLI as a recommendation. Any reliability insight on those?
Great video and overview
Please do used plug-in hybrid
Subbed only because you said you’re a Van Fan. Practicality > Coolness any day
What would you reccomend under 45k for something practical, fun and reliable enough to keep for 10 years?
Wrx would be the easiest choice but I’d also check out the Acura Integra or mazda3 turbo if you want something more soft. GR corolla if you’re okay with some mild pain and Civic Type R if you’re amazing at finding cars for msrp!
GTI. Which you can get well below 45K. Take good care of it, and the reliability is actually good. I really love mine & I’m a 59 year old female. It’s fun & practice & affordable
Very good video, I agree with most of these choices
Mazda 3 sedan kinda good ngp
Excellent video
Thanks for watching!
Yes for used cars!!!
Welp, base Nissan Sentra with manual it is if only care about point A-B.
Great list. I've had my 2024 Chevy Trax for 2 months, 3,000 miles and love it. I tried to get a Maverick, but dealers are asking for premiums. I laughed when you mention the Mazda CX-30's price, go try and find one for less than $30k. Actually, many of your stated prices are not what they're actually selling for! Quoting MSRP in 2023 is cute, you can't find cars for MSRP.
Interesting? Royal South Mazda in my town along with the next closest mazda store in greenwood Indiana had them all at msrp, many below 30k this whole year. Mazda just bumped prices for 2024 unfortunately but they still exist under 30k. Currently, most of these cars are available at MSRP in Indiana (I specifically mention which ones are not or hard to find at sticker, like the Maverick). If you can't find these cars at sticker, I feel bad for your region or you haven't put in much effort! Honda, Toyota Hybrids and any specialty enthusiast cars/trucks make up the bulk of what's marked up these days.
Maybe it's New York dealers? I know that the only cars that were at MSRP are some Kias, Hyundais and the Chevy Trax. Even the Trailblazer had "Market Adjustment" pricing. @@Realistick
@@xltoffroadbear That’s likely it, when I tried to buy a GR corolla earlier this year, I found the east coast to be the most ridiculous on their pricing!
I'd be interested in seeing you review some used cars. It would love to see a review on an Integra or 2024 Pilot.
If the trax was faster that car would be a cop for sure it’s so nice
Would love to hear your opinion on the used cars
What about the 2024 Buick Envista?
I know a lot of cars you said if it had a stick shift option. But, I would like to see a video that only talks about budget stick shift automobiles you can buy.
It would be a disappointingly short video but I’ll add it to my list of video ideas in case I find and drive some more!
@@Realistick You could add some upcoming and rumored cars at the end if you want more cars to talk about. You might also mention how big or small the car is. For those of us that like little cars to take corners in. Thanks. OH is there a bad budget car list? I was just thinking the mini wasn't on here. Thanks again
Are cars 30k-40k and considered budget these days?
If you’re budget is 40k, yes🥸 jokes aside, this list is looking at the the most value minded cars in the hottest segments. A three row crossover, a performance car, or a luxury car naturally cost more than the cheap compacts you find below $30k.
Sedans are ok, but give me a hatchback any day. So much more practical. Too bad you can only get a few in the USA these days.
cool. but i'd add 'efficient' to the mix. You should have considered Camry hybrid, or Accord. Or prius, etc etc. Maybe that's just what i'm looking for. cheap/efficient car to drive to work, park for 8 hours, then drive home. maybe pick up kids, or drop off, so scratch (unfortunately) the miata
Unfortunately those cars are much more expensive and all mentioned tend to pack markups. I’d probably buy an accord over the legacy or kia k5 but you pay for that.
@@Realistick you can buy a Camry hybrid at msrp. Or “srp”. Might have to shop around, but there are Toyota dealers selling for sticker. Probably can get normal Camrys for under msrp. Same likely holds true for Corolla and some others. Even Priuses. Priusi? Just not a prime. Cost a bit more than a Subaru or Kia, but probably higher resale. Great vid though!
Yes I’d like to see used for 15k and below 😊
Subaru is pretty good at making sure stealerships don't mark their cars up above sticker
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A 2-3 year old VW Tiguan with like 20-30k miles is a real bargain in the used market right now.
The subaru legacy is 24k in the us. The wrx is 30k. In canada the wrx is 35k and the legacy is 43k. Strange right?
I'm thinking about the CR-V or the HR-V, I'm 17 and I'm saving and I'll have around 20,000 by time I'm 18. I just want something reliable and at the same time I don't really WANT a smaller car, it just doesn't make sense to me, spending 25K for a car when I can spend 30K-35K on a SUV that has more space and that has better ground clearance.
I’d recommend the CR-V if you’re willing to spend 35k but if you don’t need a big backseat, the Mazda CX-5 select is 30k and comes with similar features to an EX CRV awd! I’d go HR-V if you don’t mind it being a bit lethargic, it’s a great value
Forte GT? 25kish
Help me out I have 10k saved up should I just get a 2009-2011 Toyota Camry or use it as a down payment on a newer Toyota Camry
Assuming you made a choice by now, but if not go 2012-2014, or V6. The 2009-11 had oil burning issues
Do a video on used STIs and collab with collector car feed lol :)
I think it's most impressive that you wear a helmet off the track with a 270hp awd vehicle. What helmet is your daily driver?
Bro you can pick up a maxima or a Infiniti g37 with 70k-100k for 13,000 and you get reliability and decent power.
That’s why the G37 is in my used car video, this one is for new. Though I’d never recommend a used Maxima😂
Great review!
Thank you!
How about Mazda 3 sedan
Good video 👍🏻
I enjoy this video well enough but I think if you're making a video about budget cars, you really should talk more about cost of ownership and gas efficiency.
Noted!
@@Realistick I'll be watching with great interest then! :D
more video on affordable 7-8 passengers vehicles
No Mazda 3?
The Tesla Model 3 RWD for $29,000 is a steal!
Where I live in Québec we get 5 months with snow and some bad roads so Subaru is incredibly popular. That being said I drive a CX-30. Great on great roads but it's losing its charm on bad roads. which we have a lot. (And the visibility is AWFULL). That and snow. I ride it for free so I don't mind... I would bet that Subaru is gonna sell a crazy amount of imprezas 2024 in the belle province. More than in their wildest dreams. If they can keep up with the demand.
Not a fan of the Mazda 3 eh?
Really want a Kia K5, but I’m really hesistant to buy one as the entire reason I’m in the market for a new car is because my 2015 Sonata is burning oil like crazy and chipping paint all over at 89k miles. Hope someone can help assure me on the reliability of the K5 compared to old Kia’s/Hyundais.
I’d like to assure you, but can’t quite do it, I know with the Elantra/forte, the switch from theta 2 to theta 3 engines helped reduce oil consumption but I don’t know about the k5/sonata just yet
Get a used TLX.
Can you get the K5 for a good price?
@@Swilla1 I mean I can get one for a fair price. But yeah I’m mostly worried about the reliability. Don’t want another car with a junk engine.
@@Lilmonke_586 Oh yea I see what you're saying. They definitely look nice though
What’s your opinion on 2024 Mazda 3 Hatchback?
Great car! They’re not the best value when you consider the similarly priced CX-30 but if you don’t want a crossover, id highly recommend it!
Just bought a 2024 civic sport in cash at 22 id say these are affordable lol you don’t need a brand new car as your first. My 2012 garbage made me so much money from 16yo to 22yo
This better have the sonata n line in it
I will not stand for the Outback and Crosstrek being left off this list /s
Great list and you are right, Subaru has a leg up for not having "as many" bad dealers as opposed to other manufacturers.
I couldn't give Subaru the sweep! I think the Crosstrek and Outback are better but if forced to choose which of the three offers the best value proposition, the Forester takes it for me. The subie dealers are the real winners though, I drove by a honda dealer here in indiana and was grossed out by the markups on EVERY car.
My 6 1/2 yr old Crosstrek has been v reliable so far ..... I would of bought a RAV4, but the Crosstrek was alot cheaper & the AWD in sand has saved me 🤔
Crazy how all of these are considered luxury cars in Brazil.
out of the fun options, which one is the best for somebody who is 6'4ft tall.
I haven’t driven the type r or latest SI but id probably say the GTI, the steering wheel comes out nice and far, the wrx is a little bigger though so it may work out better if you’re planning on using the backseat too.
@@RealistickHow about from the compact to midsize suv, I'm like you where I don't like soo much bolstering. I'm looking for a reliable fun car/suv that can fit me but I don't need a huge family vehicle. 2 row is fine with me. I also don't care for back seat leg room long as I can fit in the front comfortably.
@@tulgaadc Subaru Outback then, headroom isn’t crazy good and itself not too wide if I remember correctly but the Limited/touring get a seat extender that gives you stellar thigh support! Probably the best seats in the price point. A Honda CR-V is another good option from what Ive tested but they’ve gotten quite pricey.
Imo elantra N is best value/performance for money you can get right now
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How sad it is when $4000 is the top price range for budget cars. Why greedy dealers aren’t brought to book by manufacturers is beyond me. Case in point I was looking at a 2023 dodge charger king Daytona that the MSRP price was 102,000, the dealer add an addendum price of 72000 !!! That is robbery
How about the Toyota crown,
The $40k range also has the Santa Fe Limited & Calligraphy which is a bigger version of the CX-5 with better second row passenger space, better cargo space, & more tech features than the CX-5
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Where is accord fits in this segment ?
It doesn’t fit here. It may deserve a spot on a “best of” list but it’s not cheap for the class.
These things used to be like 14-18k wtf
Where is your 2022+ Civic Si review?
Pay cash for a car and do not finance. A brand new car depreciates by 10% of more as soon as it is driven off the dealers lot. Save your money and purchase a used vehicle around 3-5 years old and invest the money that you would have wasted on car payments.
Not bad advice or anything but It’s been complicated lately and it largely depends on the car you’re buying. lately, used prices have been so bad that buying new actually makes more sense than lightly used cars due to the warranties and free maintenance with some models. The interest kills people right now but a lot of people can’t afford a decent car without financing. Weird times right now.
@@Realistick The car market is tough to navigate right now and you’ve made a lot of valid points. Your video promotes dialogue which is proven by all the comments and I appreciate that. Thank you.
Are these prices without or without tax?
without tax, tax varies by state and if you're trading in another car. This is the MSRP with destination cost.
Not with these outrageous markups...
Calling $40k “budget” is insane
If you’re shopping for a three row, it is.
Toyota Motors 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Ford maverick it’s so bad carmax have them used ones for sale
No car under $30K here is worth considering. Love the ND Miata but I need more car for my commute/utility in my daily and can't find these at MSRP. Love the new BRZ - but it has to be pre-ordered with a 6 month min wait list - and if pre-ordered cars aren't picked up, or dealer orders do take delivery - they're going to be sold at heavy markups on the floor. Have dealers in my area that will sell WRX and Civic SI at MSRP without "markups" but in lieu of markups, they'll have post factory but pre-delivery to dealer "equipment packages" that come with basic things like floor mats to non-essentials like lip spoilers at insane premiums. And after dealer fees, TTT, Civic Si are $35K starting and WRX are $40K - embarrassing for a premium trim WRX that comes with less amenities than the prior gen premium trim, and $8K more than what my prior gen Limited cost me. All these cars took a $10K price jump in the span of one new generation, and the used prior-gen versions of these cars are only a $3-5K price saving even if they're a decade old. These are no longer affordable unless you're making $120K/yr with a $1,000/mo mortgage from pre-2019, or $140K and renting.
VW Tiguan