Seriously, the owners had like the best contractor to do that entire room and they cheaped out on the tongue and grove. Well it isn't Tommy's fault, that's what they chose and that's what the get!
Ugh... Entitled homeowners. "We want shiplap, I read it's really popular. But we don't want it to look like shiplap." In the attic space because you're gonna spend so much time up there.
Lmao it's like 12 feet of uneven wall and they arent using tongue and groove. Great job homeowners, I'm sure your snootiness was worth the end result lol.
I just can't understand some people. I just remodeled a home and when we started taking the walls down we found the previous owners put drywall and wall paper over some beautiful old growth shiplap. House was built in the late 1800s, found and saved some amazing wood from that house.
So if you use insulation with a paper backing- do you still need to use the tar paper??? I just bought a home, and they did a terrible job installing shiplap in our sunroom on the walls. I need to rip it all out, re-insulate, and replace the shiplap. Knots can be covered over with B-I-N shellac based primer- works pretty slick if you have a sprayer.
What would you do to cover paneling? Is there a very thin board - so the window casing and door casings dont have to be removed and replaced? The house i just bought has paneling in every single room!
What size nails did you use? Did you measure the ceiling and buy boards that were going to fit or did you rip the last board or did you rip all of them so they would be the same size?
I’m confused why they didn’t use premium pre primed shiplap boards. They look just like the ones they used with no knots but they have the appropriate nickel gap. Home Depot has mass quantity right in the shelf. I use it often in flip houses.
@@AlMai222 hahahaha! Premium ship lap boards are manufactured by few and are straight and even premium grade right off the shelf. I can’t make an hour drive every time I need stuff for repairs. I’m a flipper not a builder. I doubt the house will fall in over some esthetic wood decoration.
I have a house built in the 1920s with shiplap ceilings. I have recently removed attic insulation because rat dropping and dust was falling through the cracks in the ceiling. I found there is no barrier between ceiling wood and attic. NOW I don't know what kinda of barrier, if any, to place in attic and what kind of insulation. Please help anyone. I am in Biloxi, MS, very humid area .03 miles from beach
If you're going to paint it, and especially if it's simply going to be butted up to each other, why not use mdf and thus lower the chance it will swell/shrink and cause gaps? I guess the homeowner if the boss, but by electing for a sort of middle ground between shiplap and plasterboard, they seem to have fallen between two stools aesthetically. Looks kinda jarring to me, but perhaps I'm in the minority.
I just bought a house with a shiplap ceiling…their is only bats of insulation not spray foam or any plastic under the shiplap. I was wondering if this could cause any issues? All i have seen is spray foam or bats with plastic under the shiplap and mine has neither only the regular insulation.
1. if you can do the entire length with single boards, why did you take the extra time to create butt joints? and 2. is there zero issue with board shrinkage/expansion?
It's such a common and MAJOR issue, most manufacturers recommend painting the wall or joints a dark color before installing because of shrinkage/expansion.
I thought code requires 1/2 inch gypsum over spray foam insulation for fire safety..I think you can put shiplap directly over fiberglass or mineral wool though..
if the homeowners wanted to be tight they should have just gone for plasterboard, would have looked a lot better than what they ended up with, who expects no knots with that amount of wood, i take it they live on a different planet where trees have no branches.
I just purchased a home built in 1945. It is all hardwood framing, floors, and shiplap on the exterior and interior walls. Unfortunately the house was "updated" years ago, with drywall, particle board, and wallpaper covering the shiplap on the interior walls. Two layers of linoleum flooring covering the hardwood floors, with carpet on top. And shingle siding on the exterior. I'm going to peel off decades of "updates" to restore the shiplap, and these homeowners wanted shiplap, but didn't want it to look like shiplap. 🤦🏼♂️
#1 clear pine OK but don't paint it. Could have used MDF. Nickle gap and finish with something that shows the grain. ( I think knots add character to wood ). Their house / their money Thanks all and take care
he's been in the carpentry bussiness since diapers. His grandfather and father were both carpenters. at 71 he knows just about all the tricks there are.
So, no tongue/grove or lap to hold the boards even, no shadow line from any v-grove or lap gap and nail holes exposed that need to be dressed... a wall that looks like crud IMHO. Poor move by the owners... and not the fault of the team installing. They should have just put up drywall.
Why no vapour barrier? Because of closed cell foam? Because of tar paper? And will that foam outgass for a long period of time? Would like to hear from some experts.
What’s the point to that sort of finish? It just looks weird because it’s almost perfect, but not quite. Go either with cheap and smooth drywall or with a more expensive and more textured material! This is the worst of both worlds!
Wood, tar paper, and spray foam. ZERO consideration for fire. Then they're no doubt filling the rooms with wood furniture with foam padding. "Solid gasoline" is what insurance companies call this. This house will burn to the ground before the fire dept even gets the trucks out of the station!
Whenever I miss my home town of Boston (East Boston) I listen to This Old House. Drop those R’s!
Seriously, the owners had like the best contractor to do that entire room and they cheaped out on the tongue and grove.
Well it isn't Tommy's fault, that's what they chose and that's what the get!
I need a Tommy in my life!! He can do everything!
I always like the look of nail holes in a finished ceiling! LOL
"How to install Shiplap Paneling": Proceeds to not install shiplap paneling
😂😂😂
Ugh... Entitled homeowners. "We want shiplap, I read it's really popular. But we don't want it to look like shiplap." In the attic space because you're gonna spend so much time up there.
Lmao it's like 12 feet of uneven wall and they arent using tongue and groove. Great job homeowners, I'm sure your snootiness was worth the end result lol.
@@Kevin-mp5of Pretty much lol, Idk why they posted this, even Tommy can't make that look good.
Couldn't have said it better!!
Should’ve just used MDF shiplap if you didn’t like the knots… The plain 1x with no joinery and just butted together looks horrible
Plus they didn't even install shiplap
Maybe it was a matter of esthetically pleasing to the owner and not snobbiness. Kinda like pot calling the kettle black you wood snobs😂
Looks ugly, Owners don't know squat, but they are paying for their mistakes twice. Install and resale value. Should've just done drywall.
Seriously, this is terrible, it basically looks the same as drywall at probably 10 times the cost.
Glad I wasn't the only one that didn't like it
I just can't understand some people. I just remodeled a home and when we started taking the walls down we found the previous owners put drywall and wall paper over some beautiful old growth shiplap. House was built in the late 1800s, found and saved some amazing wood from that house.
So if you use insulation with a paper backing- do you still need to use the tar paper??? I just bought a home, and they did a terrible job installing shiplap in our sunroom on the walls. I need to rip it all out, re-insulate, and replace the shiplap. Knots can be covered over with B-I-N shellac based primer- works pretty slick if you have a sprayer.
I'm curious do physics change when it comes to hanging it on a ceiling or wall?. Does expansion and contraction not apply?
Tommy sounded pretty fed up with these picky homeowners
What do you do with those nail holes?
What would you do to cover paneling? Is there a very thin board - so the window casing and door casings dont have to be removed and replaced? The house i just bought has paneling in every single room!
Gonna look awesome when the joints expand and open..... brilliant. FYI THIS IS NOT SHIPLAP...
Which he states in the video.....
What size nails did you use?
Did you measure the ceiling and buy boards that were going to fit or did you rip the last board or did you rip all of them so they would be the same size?
I’m confused why they didn’t use premium pre primed shiplap boards. They look just like the ones they used with no knots but they have the appropriate nickel gap. Home Depot has mass quantity right in the shelf. I use it often in flip houses.
Yeah I stopped reading after I found out that you get your lumber at Home Depot
Do you buy all your power tools there too?
@@AlMai222 hahahaha! Premium ship lap boards are manufactured by few and are straight and even premium grade right off the shelf. I can’t make an hour drive every time I need stuff for repairs. I’m a flipper not a builder. I doubt the house will fall in over some esthetic wood decoration.
@@AlMai222 no I go premium at harbor freight.
@@Kevin-mp5of I wear overalls too and snake skin boots.
I have a house built in the 1920s with shiplap ceilings. I have recently removed attic insulation because rat dropping and dust was falling through the cracks in the ceiling. I found there is no barrier between ceiling wood and attic. NOW I don't know what kinda of barrier, if any, to place in attic and what kind of insulation. Please help anyone. I am in Biloxi, MS, very humid area .03 miles from beach
If you're going to paint it, and especially if it's simply going to be butted up to each other, why not use mdf and thus lower the chance it will swell/shrink and cause gaps?
I guess the homeowner if the boss, but by electing for a sort of middle ground between shiplap and plasterboard, they seem to have fallen between two stools aesthetically. Looks kinda jarring to me, but perhaps I'm in the minority.
No, that end result was terrible.
I just bought a house with a shiplap ceiling…their is only bats of insulation not spray foam or any plastic under the shiplap. I was wondering if this could cause any issues? All i have seen is spray foam or bats with plastic under the shiplap and mine has neither only the regular insulation.
Beautiful
How can it be Shiplap without the 'lap' ?? (as in overlap)
Did they use it on ships?
1. if you can do the entire length with single boards, why did you take the extra time to create butt joints? and 2. is there zero issue with board shrinkage/expansion?
It's such a common and MAJOR issue, most manufacturers recommend painting the wall or joints a dark color before installing because of shrinkage/expansion.
I thought code requires 1/2 inch gypsum over spray foam insulation for fire safety..I think you can put shiplap directly over fiberglass or mineral wool though..
What happens when boards start shrinking and you see the black tar paper behind?
THIS!!!
as always great job.
I love it
There's always one....smh...
The value of that house just went down by $20
😂
so how do install shiplap?
Not like that! That's for sure!
Somebody send help! Tom and Kevin are trapped in a giant IKEA closet!
if the homeowners wanted to be tight they should have just gone for plasterboard, would have looked a lot better than what they ended up with, who expects no knots with that amount of wood, i take it they live on a different planet where trees have no branches.
Looked better before they put the 1x 8’s up 😂
I just purchased a home built in 1945. It is all hardwood framing, floors, and shiplap on the exterior and interior walls. Unfortunately the house was "updated" years ago, with drywall, particle board, and wallpaper covering the shiplap on the interior walls. Two layers of linoleum flooring covering the hardwood floors, with carpet on top. And shingle siding on the exterior.
I'm going to peel off decades of "updates" to restore the shiplap, and these homeowners wanted shiplap, but didn't want it to look like shiplap. 🤦🏼♂️
Tommy is also a general contractor. He knows what the miniature is. Tommy is old school, and he is new school at the same time.
Looks great 👍
Joanna and Chip Gaines strike again! The newest trend is using shiplap over shiplap.
With shiplap accents! Oh, and don't forget the "live, laugh, love" framed print
#1 clear pine OK but don't paint it. Could have used MDF. Nickle gap and finish with something that shows the grain. ( I think knots add character to wood ). Their house / their money Thanks all and take care
LOL.... "How to not install shiplap panelling AKA, how to attach standard boards to your wall"
They could of spaced it 1/8
you can barley notice the wood painted white like that why not just put plaster like the walls.
How much extra could he have charged yo dato them. Wtf
I believe you are supposed to have a fire barrier between spray foam and living space. 🤔
No?
That looks absolutely horrendous
Tommy just know’s how to do things, because he talks to craftspeople he knows.
he's been in the carpentry bussiness since diapers. His grandfather and father were both carpenters. at 71 he knows just about all the tricks there are.
Tar paper stinks forever ....I'm confused by that choice inside a house
So in the end they went with the most boring option that doesn't even look like timber🤔😴😴
Who doesn't like knotty pine?
The lap boards would have looked much better, this pick looks very bad.
@@Kevin-mp5of You are exactly right
Panels are not flat like ship lap,nickel gap.
Looks untidy. Just drywall it and be done with it.
So, no tongue/grove or lap to hold the boards even, no shadow line from any v-grove or lap gap and nail holes exposed that need to be dressed... a wall that looks like crud IMHO. Poor move by the owners... and not the fault of the team installing. They should have just put up drywall.
sooooo the video is called "how to install shiplap", but it really should be "how to install something BESIDES shiplap"!
Why no vapour barrier? Because of closed cell foam? Because of tar paper? And will that foam outgass for a long period of time? Would like to hear from some experts.
Spray foam is a vapor barrier if you have 3 inches of it
The tar paper is a vapor barrier as well.
Big mistake!!!!
Very ugly.
Now paint and cover all the nails joints all expanding. 🤢🤢
Just leave it as insulation looks more professional
Homeowner made a really bad decision. Didn’t really see the point of it in the end.
That is not shiplap.
😎
Not a fan of that look at all and when that dries a bit the gaps it will create.. To each their own I guess
Lmbo, it's called ship lap because it's the way ships are joined. Or used to be. I know, that's what the script says and you don't know better.
Someone please tell me why you would be that complicated? As a customer?
What’s the point to that sort of finish? It just looks weird because it’s almost perfect, but not quite. Go either with cheap and smooth drywall or with a more expensive and more textured material! This is the worst of both worlds!
Wood, tar paper, and spray foam. ZERO consideration for fire. Then they're no doubt filling the rooms with wood furniture with foam padding. "Solid gasoline" is what insurance companies call this. This house will burn to the ground before the fire dept even gets the trucks out of the station!
I guarantee that there is a woman at the bottom of this....
that looked crappy... should have just used plaster board
Makes no sense. If you're do THAT you may as well have just paid someone to drywall that.
Poor decision. That just doesn't look right.
Looks really bad and uneven, that and all that face nailing. Huge mistake using that material.
Fussy homeowners. Wtf
"How to install shiplap paneling".... installs regular 1x8 boards.
silly video, NOT installing any shiplap.
that looks like crap
yikes
Looks awful
I expect more from TOH. This video and that installation are an absolute joke.
Ridiculous
LMAO looks horrible
Horrible