I had a 2018 Silverado and never had trouble with opening the tailgate. This 2021 F150 Hybrid with the bed cover you can’t open the tailgate much. It’s a pain in the butt. Don’t think I buy another F150.
A charger without a speaker that is weird, the inspector gadget ladder that is weird no curtains on the door windows that is also weird too much weirdest for me By the way, the reason vehicles are named after women who are called she is because you never know what they are going to do
Arrrrrguh! This be uhh mighty fine ARRRRRVEEE Matey. A GRRReat layout for pirates, swabbies, and other such buccaneer folk. Avast, the head sports a mighty-fine poop-deck, able to invite indoor and outdoor friend or foe alike if yer-a hankerin' to embar@$$ yerself 😂
now THAT makes a ton of sense. I love little historical world tidbits like those that still shape our world today Like railroad widths... they're standardized to that size largely because of the standardization of Roman Chariot wheel widths
What do you mean by "stick and tin camper" ? I hear you say that alot but do not know the meaning. Also, I am new to looking up campers and want to understand more of the lingo haha... thank you!
Whenever I meet someone moving to Arkansas from up north, or out west, I warn them that to live here you must have a set of lungs AND a set of gills. Because in the summer when you step out of the house and that high humidity engulfs you, you'll be thankful for that set of gills.
Anyone know what is the power rating of the usb plugs on forest river products? They slap them in everywhere which is nice but if it is just a 2.1 amp usb then they are useless for modern electronics
Asking "in forest river products" won't get you a clear answer. Each brand of forest river is like a separate company that all do different things. Some are low output. Some are higher And they don't provide us specs advising which are which.
It's not impossible. We have aspens in our lineup at some locations. But none of those are near me and I don't currently have traveling plans to visit one of those stores
Why oh why do all modern RV's use BLUE accent lighting? Blue is a harsh light and I think it would be better since the lights are LED to allow the buyer to change the color to suit their own needs.
All do not but a lot of them do. Wildwood is good for a soft white accent light But yeah.. it's common it goes back to like 2015 when the Cherokee RV group suddenly started exploding in popularity. They happened to have added a few inexpensive blue LED lights at the time and for whatever stupid reason a TON of other companies were like "it must be those blue lights that made them popular!" and the blue light fad was born It's.. stupid It IS slowly fading but yeah.. it's a cheap way to "church up" a camper I guess.
No pass through front storage, and the awning not going all the way to cover the back door drives me bonkers. The alpha wolf has both of those features, so it’s possible. I get it, this is the budget brother, just irks me a tad.
We have the 2021 of this RV and right away bought the shade for that bathroom window and keep it locked most of the time. We also bought a topper fpr the bed for extra cpmfort and assemble the dinette into a bed with pillows behind us to watch tv without the neck twisting.
11:14 I really like the full extension drawers. Maybe they could put ball bearing glides on those. Especially since it is elevated due to the slide being over the axle.
Glides aren't impossible BUT.. you'd likely lose weight capacity That's a BIG drawer that opens a long, long way. Most drawer glides can't handle the kind of weight someone could put into something that size So... in a way... I'm kinda glad they don't
@@JoshtheRVNerd ahhh, I definitely see your point. i’m usually at a battle against my girlfriend on what we take and leave. It’s almost like I’m trying to get this travel trailer to make “lift off“ (for space travel)! 😆 thanks again nerd. :)
If it is just a matter of length, it would be easy for many people to find a local mattress maker and simply have them shave an inch or so off. There are sheet straps sold all over amazon that allow you to snug up sheets and I suspect that standard queen sheets would work just fine if used with the straps.
@@kcgunesq ours fits just fine. It just presses against the doors so it’s a bit hard to close them. We don’t normally close them anyway so no big deal. The extra couple inches helps when you both 6’2”
Great floor plan for a family. Having water, ice & bathroom accessibility is mandatory with children. I would add translucent contact paper to the bathroom window for privacy while still having light.
TY! I wasn't sure on that stuff at first but I'm kinda coming around on them. They can definitely look gross quickly from fingerprints and stuff but that's camping man. Also not hard to clean
Josh, please PLEASE do a walkthrough of the Alpha Wolf version of this trailer! The Alpha Wolf 23DBH is something I've really wanted to see you go through and discuss comparisons, especially with the exterior differences to the Grey Wolfs. Thanks!
I think the origin of 'her' goes back to when sailors would be out at sea for months with no women, and would refer to their ship fondly in this way. Also, sometimes men will spend more time with their cars and other toys than they will with their wives, so women would refer to them as the other woman.
I like the bathroom door. Does need a shade, but I just relized its also better access to all but the bedroom in road mode without scraping calfs on those handles..
You crack me up, I watch these reviews, and it's not always a trailer I would ever buy! Thank you Brother, keep'em ckmin!!! I had to edit my comment, so let me try this💩
Thanks for another great video Josh. Does any manufacturer make a similar floorplan with with fiberglass slides, preferably Azdel, and a 50 amp service, so another A/C can be added? Really like the ability to walk through the camper with the slide closed. Thanks
I spend 90% of my time outside, but unfortunately the clouds seem to hover over my campgrounds😢so I definitely need something more than than a decades old uncomfortable dinette to seat all of those people on those cold and rainy days and nights👍
Neighbors had this model and loved it. We wanted a couch for better seating and bought an Alpha Wolf 26DBHL. Added a shower slider, door shades, tinted bed windows, and it's been great. I wish we had hot water at the outside kitchen...why would this one have it and not the Alpha Wolf line?
They're not made by the same people so there's not a direct handoff and upgrade strange as that sounds. Alpha Wolf is part of the "Cherokee RV Family," but different designer, different build facilities, etc So sometimes they don't quite line up like you'd expect
This model was on the top of our shopping list for a very long time until we found full queen bed models very similar to this. Unfortunately without the separate bathroom door. I do wish we had that too.
#rvnerdherd another great video and I really do love this layout…a lot!! Frosted glass for the bathroom door OR just get rid of it! I wonder though…I didn’t see Doug?!?! 😂
Definitely need frosted glass in bathroom door or no window at all. The bathroom sink is amazing though. We don't need a bunkhouse so I really have no business commenting on anything else 😬
Love the bathroom fan upgrade👍but this RV is still very entry level with it’s plastic toilet, shower curtain, no drawer glides, no TV, a camp queen bed and no ladder😕
Kitchen drawers have glides. I'm glad the dinette drawers do not. Consider the size of those drawers and the amount of stuff people can put into them. Not a lot of drawer glides can support a full drawer that opens _that_ far.
@@JoshtheRVNerd They're just one of only a couple of manufacturers that I have seen do that. I personally wouldn't want to drag wood on wood and then have to tilt it on the floor. By comparison, I think the Wildwood storage container system works much better👍
#NerdHerd 🎉🎉🎉Doug where are you?
Cool
Makers of power toung jacks need to rotate the head sideways to the lrft so EVERYONES tailgate does not hit the unit. IMHO
I had a 2018 Silverado and never had trouble with opening the tailgate. This 2021 F150 Hybrid with the bed cover you can’t open the tailgate much. It’s a pain in the butt. Don’t think I buy another F150.
@Josh you're a hot mess!!! I laughed hard at your intro!
😂 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They should put in a sliding blind for sure. That’s unacceptable to send out a unit like that.
If someone liked everything on this and just needed a shade, then I have no doubt we'd get one slapped in. That's easy little stuff 👍🏻
Barley pop. That's a new one. Love it.
Enjoy it lol
Not having a shade in the doors is downright stupid. They don't cost that much.
If someone liked everything on this and just needed a shade, then I have no doubt we'd get one slapped in. That's easy little stuff 👍🏻
The very first time my mother in-law saw the blue LED lights in our 23 DBH she called them Sex lights... and the name stuck.
A charger without a speaker that is weird, the inspector gadget ladder that is weird no curtains on the door windows that is also weird too much weirdest for me
By the way, the reason vehicles are named after women who are called she is because you never know what they are going to do
I know you said it's a camp queen but can you tell me what the measurements are for a camp queen?
60x74"
And Doug still doesn't work there...
One of these days that joke is going to backfire when a guy named Doug happens to be walking through the background
magnetic black out shade for bathroom.
👍🏻
Arrrrrguh! This be uhh mighty fine ARRRRRVEEE Matey. A GRRReat layout for pirates, swabbies, and other such buccaneer folk. Avast, the head sports a mighty-fine poop-deck, able to invite indoor and outdoor friend or foe alike if yer-a hankerin' to embar@$$ yerself 😂
Keep it up and someone might keelhaul your booty
Ships are "she" because the Latin word for ship, "navis," is gendered feminine.
now THAT makes a ton of sense. I love little historical world tidbits like those that still shape our world today
Like railroad widths... they're standardized to that size largely because of the standardization of Roman Chariot wheel widths
OMG this thing is poifect!!! 🥰😍
☺☺☺
What do you mean by "stick and tin camper" ? I hear you say that alot but do not know the meaning. Also, I am new to looking up campers and want to understand more of the lingo haha...
thank you!
This video will help: m.ua-cam.com/video/R8BE2f8bd5o/v-deo.html
Basically wood “stick” skeleton and aluminum “tin” skin
Whenever I meet someone moving to Arkansas from up north, or out west, I warn them that to live here you must have a set of lungs AND a set of gills. Because in the summer when you step out of the house and that high humidity engulfs you, you'll be thankful for that set of gills.
Hahaaha
Anyone know what is the power rating of the usb plugs on forest river products? They slap them in everywhere which is nice but if it is just a 2.1 amp usb then they are useless for modern electronics
Asking "in forest river products" won't get you a clear answer. Each brand of forest river is like a separate company that all do different things. Some are low output. Some are higher
And they don't provide us specs advising which are which.
we looked at this unit, wasnt enough space for a family of 5 imo. Also didnt like the step up in the slide at 6ft 2 Ended up with a 294gebg.
Wow, much bigger
Nice trailer but I'd want it with a bigger bathroom and no bunks. No kids around anymore.
Try this one: ua-cam.com/video/jBlBFGAAwWA/v-deo.html
Are you going to be doing a video on a Aspen Trail 1980BH?
It's not impossible. We have aspens in our lineup at some locations. But none of those are near me and I don't currently have traveling plans to visit one of those stores
Is this a walkable roof?
Yep!
Why oh why do all modern RV's use BLUE accent lighting? Blue is a harsh light and I think it would be better since the lights are LED to allow the buyer to change the color to suit their own needs.
All do not but a lot of them do. Wildwood is good for a soft white accent light
But yeah.. it's common
it goes back to like 2015 when the Cherokee RV group suddenly started exploding in popularity. They happened to have added a few inexpensive blue LED lights at the time and for whatever stupid reason a TON of other companies were like "it must be those blue lights that made them popular!" and the blue light fad was born
It's.. stupid
It IS slowly fading but yeah.. it's a cheap way to "church up" a camper I guess.
Personally I like to share the experience. She gets mad at me😂.
funny how that works..
Doug, where are you?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Common Sense would say do not have a see-through window in the bathroom. Why is there no shadem That makes no sense to me
Standardization for production would be the answer to your question
Josh - are there any models similar to this that have a full size queen bed and are 1/2 ton towable?
Try this m.ua-cam.com/video/geQYRAG-qlQ/v-deo.html
Hi Josh, will u b reviewing the 2023 east to west
I've had a few on here. Big world of campers. I cannot get to them all
Americus GA ❤️
I miss Publix
@@JoshtheRVNerd hard to beat a pub sub
Alta 2400kth?
I haven't been able to get a FULL look at that one, but I do have a preview of it here: ua-cam.com/video/7cU1xw7JcAg/v-deo.html
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you for responding n thank you for what you do.
Is there a difference between 2022 and 2023 models ?
Yep. I have footage of the 2022 as well if you’d like to compare.
No pass through front storage, and the awning not going all the way to cover the back door drives me bonkers. The alpha wolf has both of those features, so it’s possible. I get it, this is the budget brother, just irks me a tad.
No I get it. I saw the alpha version of this and they really did dial it in. I went to record it one day and we had just sold it the day prior lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd it’s not enough to stop me from saving a few bucks though 😂
Pooping with friends! 😂😂
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What the heck is a camp queen
Normal queen is 60x80” in size
Camp queen is 60x74”
6” short
@@JoshtheRVNerd got it thanks
I'm glad you and Matt's RV reviews both detail the "pooping positions" of RV's.
Yeah, what’s funny is I think we both started doing it at about the same time without realizing we were both doing it
We have the 2021 of this RV and right away bought the shade for that bathroom window and keep it locked most of the time. We also bought a topper fpr the bed for extra cpmfort and assemble the dinette into a bed with pillows behind us to watch tv without the neck twisting.
Thank you so much for the input. I love hearing from actual owners.
11:14 I really like the full extension drawers. Maybe they could put ball bearing glides on those. Especially since it is elevated due to the slide being over the axle.
Glides aren't impossible BUT.. you'd likely lose weight capacity
That's a BIG drawer that opens a long, long way. Most drawer glides can't handle the kind of weight someone could put into something that size
So... in a way... I'm kinda glad they don't
@@JoshtheRVNerd ahhh, I definitely see your point. i’m usually at a battle against my girlfriend on what we take and leave. It’s almost like I’m trying to get this travel trailer to make “lift off“ (for space travel)! 😆 thanks again nerd. :)
I can confirm, a true queen does fit but it’s tight. It makes it hard to close the bedroom doors but does indeed fit!
That's good to know. TY
If it is just a matter of length, it would be easy for many people to find a local mattress maker and simply have them shave an inch or so off. There are sheet straps sold all over amazon that allow you to snug up sheets and I suspect that standard queen sheets would work just fine if used with the straps.
@@kcgunesq ours fits just fine. It just presses against the doors so it’s a bit hard to close them. We don’t normally close them anyway so no big deal. The extra couple inches helps when you both 6’2”
Great floor plan for a family. Having water, ice & bathroom accessibility is mandatory with children. I would add translucent contact paper to the bathroom window for privacy while still having light.
Smart idea!
Didn't look like you could really see from the outside into bathroom with that mirrored black looking glass. Can you clarify?
Aesthetically the mirrored door is one of the best thing I’ve seen. I think they should definitely keep it.
TY! I wasn't sure on that stuff at first but I'm kinda coming around on them. They can definitely look gross quickly from fingerprints and stuff but that's camping man. Also not hard to clean
Josh, please PLEASE do a walkthrough of the Alpha Wolf version of this trailer! The Alpha Wolf 23DBH is something I've really wanted to see you go through and discuss comparisons, especially with the exterior differences to the Grey Wolfs. Thanks!
Well I would but.. we literally just sold the one I had here 😆
@@JoshtheRVNerd well, shame on that sales team for being so good at their jobs 😖
Pretty nice Camper 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
I think the origin of 'her' goes back to when sailors would be out at sea for months with no women, and would refer to their ship fondly in this way. Also, sometimes men will spend more time with their cars and other toys than they will with their wives, so women would refer to them as the other woman.
I like the bathroom door. Does need a shade, but I just relized its also better access to all but the bedroom in road mode without scraping calfs on those handles..
yeah for traveling really that bath door is kinda the easier way to go generally
You crack me up, I watch these reviews, and it's not always a trailer I would ever buy!
Thank you Brother, keep'em ckmin!!!
I had to edit my comment, so let me try this💩
Glad you like them!
Thanks for another great video Josh. Does any manufacturer make a similar floorplan with with fiberglass slides, preferably Azdel, and a 50 amp service, so another A/C can be added? Really like the ability to walk through the camper with the slide closed. Thanks
Quick fix for the bathroom door would be decoupage parchment paper to it the light will come in but you couldn't see in not even shadows
Makes sense to me
I spend 90% of my time outside, but unfortunately the clouds seem to hover over my campgrounds😢so I definitely need something more than than a decades old uncomfortable dinette to seat all of those people on those cold and rainy days and nights👍
yeah Augusta. not far from me
Neighbors had this model and loved it. We wanted a couch for better seating and bought an Alpha Wolf 26DBHL. Added a shower slider, door shades, tinted bed windows, and it's been great. I wish we had hot water at the outside kitchen...why would this one have it and not the Alpha Wolf line?
They're not made by the same people so there's not a direct handoff and upgrade strange as that sounds.
Alpha Wolf is part of the "Cherokee RV Family," but different designer, different build facilities, etc
So sometimes they don't quite line up like you'd expect
I like this one. Like all of them, it isn't perfect but it is appealing
That’s super fair I think. Ty
This model was on the top of our shopping list for a very long time until we found full queen bed models very similar to this. Unfortunately without the separate bathroom door. I do wish we had that too.
May I ask what model that was? I just recorded a survey or 260 which is somewhat similar.
Yes Chris. What model you find you like with full Queen? This may be an issue for me as well.
@@pokernews916 we got a used Freedom Express 257BHS.
🎉#NerdHerd always..... for every video....
Thank you so much
Grandmas are the best, you are correct, you must always answer Nanas when they call 🥰
Facts
very nice unit....
God bless your grandma ❤❤❤
She's amazing
#rvnerdherd another great video and I really do love this layout…a lot!! Frosted glass for the bathroom door OR just get rid of it! I wonder though…I didn’t see Doug?!?! 😂
Doug that lazy bum never shows his face lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd ohhhhh bad Dougie!! Haha thanks for all the laughs in your videos! Hope Grandma was ok!?
😂😂Shocking intro😮 love❤ layout..would like murphy bed, other than that 🎉 Thanks for all info..Florida is both hot 🔥 & humid
😂pirate ☠
Love your videos!!
TY Jamie! :)
Capt Nerd!??!??! You're on your game Josh!!!👍
TY! :)
Definitely need frosted glass in bathroom door or no window at all. The bathroom sink is amazing though. We don't need a bunkhouse so I really have no business commenting on anything else 😬
Just because you don’t need a bunkhouse doesn’t mean you don’t have useful or valuable feedback
Love the bathroom fan upgrade👍but this RV is still very entry level with it’s plastic toilet, shower curtain, no drawer glides, no TV, a camp queen bed and no ladder😕
Kitchen drawers have glides. I'm glad the dinette drawers do not.
Consider the size of those drawers and the amount of stuff people can put into them. Not a lot of drawer glides can support a full drawer that opens _that_ far.
@@JoshtheRVNerd They're just one of only a couple of manufacturers that I have seen do that. I personally wouldn't want to drag wood on wood and then have to tilt it on the floor. By comparison, I think the Wildwood storage container system works much better👍
"She" or "her" is used to refer to ships and stuff because of the idea of a mother/goddess guiding or protecting said item or its crew.
You missed the sometimes unpredictable nature of them being another reason
The intro is priceless 😂
I thought it stunk
@@JoshtheRVNerd 😂 😂