So much common sense and informed viewpoints in Gray's presentations. So very refreshing for someone to be cutting through all of the conspiracy theories and sensationalism crap. So much ridiculous conjecture and irrelevant content that's so devoid of any facts. Thank you Gray for what you do !
"it's the people of stuff. they're doin it. those cowboy cops. see them before. they're from the cia and the cult of geegog"....... or..."the police. yep. they set it up. they decided some had to suffer so they could get inside that hosue and get the drugs and cartel information they needed. they knew kohberger as an eager student and decided...he's the guy to frame". or.." the president of the university. doing it for money. you don't even know there are tunnels to nuclear missile silos and a rogue seal team did it. how else can 4 people be stabbed in minutes. Seal team"
Same! The other channels I feel like even if they had him on video completing the crime they would say no he didn’t do it! I was wondering if it is normal in this type of case to try and get the indictment dismissed like Anne Taylor is doing?
Other channels are still talking about Jack,the ex boyfriend and the other Jack, hoodie guy being involved. So ridiculous. The worst theory is when the roomates are being accused by youtubers. I also think Anne Taylor shouldn't be wasting the courts time and delaying the trial with all these senseless motions. Let's get on with the trial so families can see some justice
Thank you Gray for bringing this to us. I’ll never understand the people that dive into all the conspiracy theories on cases. It’s like doing a puzzle with the wrong pieces. You always stick to the facts. 😊👍
I think your assessment of travel and timeline is spot on. Am really enjoying your presentations Gray, very much appreciate your in depth hard work - thank you 👍
For an "off the cuff"... that was a great presentation!! Remember that there are 300k apps that track your phone with the accuracy of an ankle monitor - Life360 being one. So if some have problems understanding how that is BK's car... his phone will mirror the route of the car. Wondering if he never saw this coming back in the summer of 2022 when he first started visiting the area and stalking (probably) Maddie. He never turned his phone off then. Maybe he was obsessed, or maybe figuring out a way to talk to her. Somehow things escalated in his mind - frustration, anger, resentment. I think the situation at WSU and his apparent demise there had a ton to do with pushing him over the edge. His life was basically over, in his mind. He failed at being security, or a cop... and now he was failing the only way to get back at everyone for rejecting him - attaining a PhD.
yea his life was basically over just like alex murdaugh....ended up with his 'back against the wall' and they acted out in a heinous violent manner....it's weird bc bk's specialization or concentration is suppose to be some kind of tech or cloud forensics....within the criminal justice field...🤦♀🤦♂🤦
Another great video in the series, Gray. I tend to agree with you about Kohberger emulating aspects of Bundy's travels and actions. It's strange how both Bundy and Kohberger were pulled over by law enforcement several times for erratic driving too. Suspect vehicle 1 ( Kohberger's white Elantra ), Kohberger's phone and Kohberger himself, all move in tandem to several of Bundy's haunts directly following the murders and there is also the initial move from Pennsylvania to Washington as you point out. I think that is a very viable theory. It appears there were times Kohberger could lay on the Bundy charm too, though as you say he wasn't generally the charismatic, handsome killer Bundy was known as. Kohberger does behave as an incel like Elliott Rodgers and I suspect it was very likely Kohberger behind the Papa Rodger account. There is so much damning evidence we know of in this case that points directly to Kohberger's guilt, it is increasingly difficult to understand how so many people believe him innocent. It's concerning. Hopefully the jury have basic common sense and a brutal quadruple murderer is taken off the streets for good. Thanks Gray.
Imo if he had not been arrested he would have continued bundys path and I’m afraid he may have harmed his parents or taken them hostage had they suspected him or confronted him also. Imo and speculation only.,
Thank you for finally not calling those who dont believe he did it dumb. Personally i think he did do it, and you helped me get there, based on what we know so far. We have yet to be proved right or wrong, but we're making progress 😊
Law enforcement was on to him within weeks and i am proud of that. Give credit where its due... one month and they had him. I am confident that they are going to get this sob.
I believe BK is guilty..I've based my belief on the facts from LE pressers, and the PCA.. I have a hard time understanding people who think he is innocent..how is that possible?..those people must be the same type of ignorant people who as jurors voted O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony not guilty..smh..
Awesome job Gray, and yes in this day and age whether the truth be simple or sometimes complicated the truth is now secondary which is leading to the genuine downfall to the country.. Thanks as always Gray
Honestly, from the evidence that we (the public) have been provided, there are many doubts. This video was done well and makes sense and makes one believe that this is what happened, but there are also many questions that aren't factual. Can they prove it was his car? Or just a car that looks like his (white 4 door sedan). Can they prove it was him inside a car or was a license plate seen? What other cars were seen on those cameras (the cops in the same vicinity at the same time were using a white 4 door sedan). A knife sheath that's put on a belt is extremely difficult to remove (buy one and try it). There's hundreds of people that party in that house per week, what about all that DNA from those individuals? Cell phone triangulation is very unreliable, especially in more rural areas. These pings can put someone 3 - 5 miles from where someone thinks they are, Moscow Idaho is only 3 miles across and only 6 miles from Pullman Washington. If there are applications on his phone that recorded his GPS movements, that's WAY more accurate (within feet) than a cell phone tower ping. To me, the DNA on a sheath button found without another source of DNA in the house or on the victims is sketchy as heck. Many questions are left unanswered because of this gag order. I hope that BK is the right person but so far it's been tough for me to agree that it's him. 🤷. Guess we'll have to hear the other evidence
About time someone said I don't understand how people think this guy is innocent, BASED on what we have. It's absolutely ridiculous. Nice to see someone present facts. Not throw crap at the wall all day and scream conspiracy! Not to use numerology to solve cases 😂. Like that clown on UA-cam BTW watch out, the conspiracy theorists are all over your comment section with irrefutable proof he's innocent with arguments such as, no he didn't
Is there video of him pulling up to his apartment early morning and what he was wearing,carrying any bags or anything? This guy IS the killer but I’ve never heard anything about him getting home. Neighbors see him,heard him arriving? Great job Grey. I get a kick out of the call ins.
I won't be surprised (if they do have a trial) that we learn that he drove this exact route many times in the days and weeks leading up to the murder, that he honed this route, practiced it, made sure he knew every single step he would take after the murders to make sure it was 'safe' for him to get away clean. That is why he chose the time that he did, etc. He had to be able to get away when campus police and local police had decided to relax a bit for the night, and that happens after 3am. I think he knew which intersections were most likely to have a police cruiser watching traffic, etc. And that he practiced the entire crime many times, probably even walking up to the building and back to his car to see if anyone would be alarmed, if they'd notice him. If he is noticed, he abandons the plan and gives a story. If not, he knows he can get in and out and he knows how long that takes precisely. That is what an intelligent killer would do, this man is not a dummy.
@@juniperrob4741 I disagree , he took this exact same route twice that we know of . He strategically turned his phone off and then back on when he was outside the range , he knew police would’ve considered in investigative range. And he wanted to be sure if he was seen , he was not seen coming from Moscow but coming from south of Pullman . One main mistake made was he should have turned phone off BEFORE he left his apartment , not after starting his trip . They would think he was at home ..,imo
@@juniperrob4741 Well, I strongly disagree and since you didn't provide much besides stating that you disagree, I suppose we are sort of at a stalemate here. In an attempt to move you, I'd ask you to be more specific. I don't think it is erratic at all. I have smoked marijuana for years, I used to drive around and smoke it. A lot fo my friends did. 'Doobie cruise'. We knew which intersections, etc. were the busiest, where cops like to post up, which roads to take to avoid those, and that route would seem erratic, but it was not. And if you mapped it out, it would seem we were driving without purpose, but that was not true. Since he was breaking the law, since I already stated what i did, did you even consider my point before disagreeing? I don't think that you did at all, or maybe I didn't communicate my point very well. I think he drove this exact route many, many, many times. I do, you have not refuted my logic.
@@juniperrob4741 Nothing about this killing was random, or even implied to be random. It is considered very calculated, that they were lucky to catch a break to their suspect. That if it is not him, that they are truly clueless. Why wouldn't the escape route also be calculated!?!? You really think he did this, if he did, without a trial run? Yet, was so efficient? C'mon man. Of course he considered the route that was the cleanest get away. Of course he did, and of course he practiced it. Safe assumption, dude. It really is.
@@juniperrob4741 If he is the killer, the only actual mistake that he made was forgetting that knife sheath, massive mistake, and not considering f'ing ring cameras, hahahahahaha, also massive. Dude calculated everything, that he could think of. There were so many mistakes that he did not make though. He made two, that is it. They barely caught this dude.
Your videos are spot on! Others continue to ignore the facts, although it’s not evidence, it’s very strong that it points directly at BK. Is it possible he’s innocent? Yep. Is it probable he’s guilty? Absolutely!!!
I agree with you 💯%, but i think all these other UA-camrs put stuff out for likes and watches. But... I also think he had help.. id like you to gove your thought on why the 2 living roommates did nothing for 8 hours. I also thinkk they should keep that house up until after the first trial concludes. Never destroy ANY evidense until theres a verdict. It could sway that one juror to understand something that gets that guilty verdict. Nothing beats being at the scene and feeling what it was like. Great video. Thanks for your time. Have a great New Years .
I think the majority of the koldbooger supporters are just people that like to be different.....root for the underdog type folks. The evidence is overwhelming imo........every vid youve made drives that point home. I think hes headed to DR.....I believe he also knows whats coming........Guilty as charged. Keep up the fine work GH👍
Gray you are great. Thank you for having integrity and common sense. And watching your shows are so much more entertaining without the ridiculous conspiracies. I also agree about the house. I think there is enough evidence without saving the house. Its almost like the more you have in a case the more they need (as far as evidence is concerned )to prove that someone is guilty. It's like people (jurys) want to be able to put it together a little bit themselves.. if you give them everything on a silver platter that's when the conspiracies start. Its hard to describe but anyways you are the best at this and really all I care to watch anymore..
Gray, I’m sure you have seen and heard some of the conspiracy theories going around on social media. Some of them are so far fetched, I can’t believe people would truly think it’s what took place on November 13, 2022. Kohberger is the guy. When you put all the things against him together, he’s either the most unfortunate man in the world, or he’s the perp. I think that LE and the prosecutors have all they need from that house. I also believe that LE and the prosecution have so much evidence against BK that this case will be a slam-dunk. Thanks for being a voice of reason and common sense.
Sometimes LE watches for further incriminating evidence. Gray said on a previous show that LE confirmed the DNA with evidence from a trash can and If I am not mistaken, later directly from a mouth swab. They covered all their bases in case the future defense had problems with the DNA and to be absolutely “clean” in court later.
Have you seen the recent interview with steve goncalves? He said that law enforcement told him he needed to take a breath and relax because they had 100% more stuff then what everyone knows and they have this "in the bag". He said after that he did relax and trusts them.
Ugh holidays can be so ruff, I remember when Steve Goncalves said last year they're not gonna have a Christmas this year; it's canceled. @@sandyshirley5079 🤍🤍🤍🤍
Great analysis thank you !! You have nicely scripted the prosecution's closing argument. There is no reasonable doubt. Question is will there be a freak juror who will void the death penalty? In the very least Kohberger will spend life in prison. And that would be merciful for his mom & dad & sisters.
I feel for families of the victims but also Kohberger's family. I've been invested in this case. I really hope if he is guilty that he is given life rather than the death penalty. I can't imagine what it must be like being a family member of an accused.
I suppose technically Bundy moved to Tacoma from PA, but he was just a little kid. he grew up here. thanks for being a voice of reason amidst all the crazy theories about cover ups.
Great Video as always Gray.... The only "reason" I can see people saying to not demolish that house of horrors is that some hellbent juror may put in a requeast to think its necessary to "see the scene" as it relates to the time intervals or whatever .. the layout, etc... I dont agree with that but I can see a juror out of 12 thinking that way... PS.. I emailed ya another cool rendition of that song you played the other night sung by a homeless man over a decade ago on the Opie and Anthony Show... keep up the great work... Ivan
My thoughts about the traveling…I live in northern Utah. To drive from Washington/Idaho to Pennsylvania, one takes I 80 through Wyoming is the fastest. In the winter though, many times I 80 could be closed, especially around Cheyenne. So some drivers will drive south through Utah and pick up I 70, going eastbound through Colorado….And is seldom closed.
I agree with you Gray, about the demo of the house, I understand both sides. Time is the question. 5 years for trial, then tear it down. Next summer as stated, keep it up. It can’t hurt.
Since I haven’t heard not one girl come forward saying they slept with him, I am leaning towards him being an incel. Unless LE spoke to some girls we don’t know about.
Safe to say there are None And not one visitor to his confinement....Any male friends ? To visit him? No one ..no male friends let alone female....the classic loner....
Well straight up and no confusion, i think BK is 100% GUILTY and thats never wavered. From the moment he was arrested, when they showed his picture and i could reserarch him, everything pointed to him and that feeling ive had in tbe past in other cases, without a doubt, i believe they have the right guy. And as more and more information came out, nothing has given me doubt, the evidence continues to stack up. But put the forensic evidence aside, the circumstantial evidence on top of criminal profile of this killer, it all continues to match up perfectly. Essentially, he is the perfect suspect. EVERYTHING points to him. I do not understand how some people are denying the obvious. I think some people just like to debate and create doubt because they can....but he still the killer and i haveno problem pointing to him and calling him the killer. What does piss me off though is the smug look BK gets on his face whenever he walks into the courtroom; i did this but im going to get away with it because im so much smarter than all of you, im untouchable. Lets leave him in the room with Steve Concalves and call it a day.
hi from luxembourg 👋🏻, I am eager too to see this one, whoever was not convinced this awful dude committed this hainous crimes just has to have a look at your last videos about BK, awsome research and work 💪🏻!
What is interesting to me is that Maddie didnt receive nearly the amount of injury/ wounds as the other 3 victims. To me, that seems to suggest that she never quite woke up during the attack. This also seems to indicate that the person who committed these crimes was not so much acting out of rage as perhaps reacting to 3 potential witnesses or defending himself- perhaps panicking, thus over reacting. He may not have intended to kill the remaining 3 victims. All that said, perhaps the killer was provoked by reason, not fantasy.
@@cherylbutler2452your comment makes sense. To me, it was personally pointed towards her. I would have every text message, Snapchat, voicemail, DM on earth that's tied to her phone examined. Whomever did this was extremely mad at her and jealous (and she was leaving campus). There must be a connection regarding her somewhere.
I’ve wondered about that, too. His confidence may have been higher than usual so maybe someone who encountered him there will say something about speaking with him.
Have to admit though the way swat killed off Brent K was not within protocol. Inan is a weirdo too. Constantly back tracked on his story. Asking questions is NOT conspiracy.
Most SKs DO operate alone. If it is the time frame that makes you think otherwise, Gray did another video, showing that BK had plenty of time to stab 4 kids who were half asleep and taken by surprise.
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You should join on the first tier then, don't use Apple. Do you have a different computer you can use or a tablet like a non-Mac then you could get the lower rate@@sandyshirley5079
I agree 100% that kohberger is guilty . I do think the house should have remained until after this trial . It may have been good for the jury to walk through
I’m baffled by his shear confidence in the fact that there wasn’t a security alarm set on the house. Had he been inside the home before during a party and was able to look around to survey if there was an alarm system in place? I wish there would have been some barriers in place to prevent him from getting inside so easily without making any noise, alerting anyone inside. Please take this as a wake up call. A group of young people (esp girls) living close to any college campus or university needs to be protected with home security systems in place and being used. You just never know when there may be a Kohlberger lurking in the dark.
The main thing a lot of people that think BK is guilty is that he has to be proven "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." He can be 100% guilty, and everyone could know it, but if his attorneys are somehow able to miraculous show there is a reasonable alternative to the murders where someone other than BK committed them, regardless of how much everyone knows he did it, legally he has to be found not guilty. Right now, only having a small amount of evidence that the prosecution has, along with a lot of circumstantial evidence, saying he's guilty and not understanding how anyone can say he's not guilty, is to me unfathomable. If there was more evidence that had been made public that led to the belief BK was anything other than not guilty, I could understand, but there's way to much hearsay evidence and not enough known solid evidence to rationally jump to that conclusion. I personally think he's guilty, but I won't say there's no way he can be found not guilty without knowing all the evidence against him.
@@GrayHughesInvestigatesand they might be right. With the little bit we know publicly there's only our personal opinions that say he did do it. Not accepting the fact that there might be evidence that can't be explained by the prosecution and that doesn't directly point to BK, to me is a rush to judgement, regardless of how strong my own views are that he's guilty.
@@malloryknox6802 I hardly ever watched that show, and when I did, it was bits and pieces and never an entire episode, so I'm sorry to tell you but your attempt to discredit anything I've said as the ramblings of someone that got all their knowledge of the justice system from a t.v. show, has failed.
@@gothicbagheera Scott Peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence only so reasonable doubt is not the big deal you think it is. Now if Bryan was a woman maybe they would let him walk free like Casey Anthony, but he's not
Social media, is all about numbers, these numbers are gathered by interaction, this is why there is so many trolls in all genre of internet especially in the the true crime community, I put very little stock of people's opinions on line. Far too many people go against everything they believe to cater to the numbers game of Social media, must of the people involved in the story of kohberger being innocent probably don't even think that but realize how the sensational view gets clicks and comments the stir controversy thus successfully fulfilling their intended purpose.
There's a comment on this video from a guy called Andy he's a kohberger is innocent victim 😅 you know he says a line in his comments " kohberger would not be interested in Bums at a party house" quote. How thoughtful and generous of him to say that It shows how out of touch these groups of trolls are 😢
I was a pro khoburger innocent until lately and must say you have done such good work along with facts and logic ive turn a full turn around,i just needed a channel like yours and to take your mind out these channels that blocks common sense with no facts or research they actually make me sick,ive no idea how or why khoburger did this as my brain is not wired in same way but im not ignorant or stupid either,makes you see these kids as people and what kristi goncalves says about the bogey man,makes you have a really good think about these kids
I salute mr gray hughes,all these true crime communities channels should take a look and see how its really done from a true gentleman,many thanks gray
Basically since he is in jail indicted of the crimes. He is guilty till proven innocent in this case if you really think about it. He will remain in jail if not proven innocent.
But why THESE kids? It should not have been ANY kids but why were THESE kids targets? Your analysis is spot on! 9:33. Also don’t these knives hang off a belt loop in their sheath? I mean why did he have the sheath detached from the belt loop and loose? Presumably the sheath would have remained attached to the belt loop. It’s strange that the sheath was loose.
So much common sense and informed viewpoints in Gray's presentations. So very refreshing for someone to be cutting through all of the conspiracy theories and sensationalism crap. So much ridiculous conjecture and irrelevant content that's so devoid of any facts. Thank you Gray for what you do !
So glad to find your channel, so fed up with other creators turning everything into a conspiracy theory.BK did this 💯.
Nice! People like u are a gem these days! 💎
"it's the people of stuff. they're doin it. those cowboy cops. see them before. they're from the cia and the cult of geegog".......
or..."the police. yep. they set it up. they decided some had to suffer so they could get inside that hosue and get the drugs and cartel information they needed. they knew kohberger as an eager student and decided...he's the guy to frame".
or.." the president of the university. doing it for money. you don't even know there are tunnels to nuclear missile silos and a rogue seal team did it. how else can 4 people be stabbed in minutes. Seal team"
Same! The other channels I feel like even if they had him on video completing the crime they would say no he didn’t do it! I was wondering if it is normal in this type of case to try and get the indictment dismissed like Anne Taylor is doing?
Other channels are still talking about Jack,the ex boyfriend and the other Jack, hoodie guy being involved. So ridiculous. The worst theory is when the roomates are being accused by youtubers. I also think Anne Taylor shouldn't be wasting the courts time and delaying the trial with all these senseless motions. Let's get on with the trial so families can see some justice
Thank you Gray for bringing this to us. I’ll never understand the people that dive into all the conspiracy theories on cases. It’s like doing a puzzle with the wrong pieces. You always stick to the facts. 😊👍
It’s good to see this illustrated so that a normal, unbiased person can understand the facts which have been released. Thank you.
Spot on! Thank you for being the voice of logic and reason in this case, from England, UK
I think your assessment of travel and timeline is spot on. Am really enjoying your presentations Gray, very much appreciate your in depth hard work - thank you 👍
For an "off the cuff"... that was a great presentation!! Remember that there are 300k apps that track your phone with the accuracy of an ankle monitor - Life360 being one. So if some have problems understanding how that is BK's car... his phone will mirror the route of the car. Wondering if he never saw this coming back in the summer of 2022 when he first started visiting the area and stalking (probably) Maddie. He never turned his phone off then. Maybe he was obsessed, or maybe figuring out a way to talk to her. Somehow things escalated in his mind - frustration, anger, resentment. I think the situation at WSU and his apparent demise there had a ton to do with pushing him over the edge. His life was basically over, in his mind. He failed at being security, or a cop... and now he was failing the only way to get back at everyone for rejecting him - attaining a PhD.
yea his life was basically over just like alex murdaugh....ended up with his 'back against the wall' and they acted out in a heinous violent manner....it's weird bc bk's specialization or concentration is suppose to be some kind of tech or cloud forensics....within the criminal justice field...🤦♀🤦♂🤦
Thanks Gray for another fantastic video. You explain this case so clearly and factually!
Thanks for your hard work!
Thanks for your work! 🙏🏻 Pointing out all the things ppl really should start thinking about more 💯
Great video Gray ! You continue to be the voice of reason and facts. We appreciate you and all you do
I wasn't aware of Bundy going from PA to WA! Thank you for pointing that out.
Another great video in the series, Gray. I tend to agree with you about Kohberger emulating aspects of Bundy's travels and actions. It's strange how both Bundy and Kohberger were pulled over by law enforcement several times for erratic driving too. Suspect vehicle 1 ( Kohberger's white Elantra ), Kohberger's phone and Kohberger himself, all move in tandem to several of Bundy's haunts directly following the murders and there is also the initial move from Pennsylvania to Washington as you point out. I think that is a very viable theory. It appears there were times Kohberger could lay on the Bundy charm too, though as you say he wasn't generally the charismatic, handsome killer Bundy was known as. Kohberger does behave as an incel like Elliott Rodgers and I suspect it was very likely Kohberger behind the Papa Rodger account. There is so much damning evidence we know of in this case that points directly to Kohberger's guilt, it is increasingly difficult to understand how so many people believe him innocent. It's concerning. Hopefully the jury have basic common sense and a brutal quadruple murderer is taken off the streets for good. Thanks Gray.
Imo if he had not been arrested he would have continued bundys path and I’m afraid he may have harmed his parents or taken them hostage had they suspected him or confronted him also. Imo and speculation only.,
Agreed.
Thank you for finally not calling those who dont believe he did it dumb. Personally i think he did do it, and you helped me get there, based on what we know so far. We have yet to be proved right or wrong, but we're making progress 😊
well they are, but I didn't say it.
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@@GrayHughesInvestigatesyes, you're making progress 😊
@GrayHughesInvestigates I know this is serious but you made me laugh. ‘well they are, but I didn’t say it’
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Law enforcement was on to him within weeks and i am proud of that. Give credit where its due... one month and they had him. I am confident that they are going to get this sob.
Another great video, Gray! Thank you for your common sense approach.
I believe BK is guilty..I've based my belief on the facts from LE pressers, and the PCA..
I have a hard time understanding people who think he is innocent..how is that possible?..those people must be the same type of ignorant people who as jurors voted O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony not guilty..smh..
100% correct on other creators making up stuff to convince their viewers that he’s innocent. One foreigner in particular.
Another great video , thank you for all the updates ❤ such a heartbreaking case😢
Outstanding video! Even without dna, not sure how anyone could reasonably conclude otherwise !
This is the most factual read of the PCA I have seen since Giselle did it flying the path of travel. Nice work!!!!
Yes, she does great work as well. Funny story I thought Gray and her were brother and sister or cousins for a while! Lol.
I was also impressed to find out she was a pilot..her and Gray are similar in ways and at the same time vastly different! 🪰🛸✈🗺🧸
Awesome job Gray, and yes in this day and age whether the truth be simple or sometimes complicated the truth is now secondary which is leading to the genuine downfall to the country..
Thanks as always Gray
100% agree with you. You are spot on!!
How can anyone believe he is innocent?
Because he turned himself in and admitted he was a door dasher. It’s all anecdotal evidence
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Honestly, from the evidence that we (the public) have been provided, there are many doubts. This video was done well and makes sense and makes one believe that this is what happened, but there are also many questions that aren't factual. Can they prove it was his car? Or just a car that looks like his (white 4 door sedan). Can they prove it was him inside a car or was a license plate seen? What other cars were seen on those cameras (the cops in the same vicinity at the same time were using a white 4 door sedan). A knife sheath that's put on a belt is extremely difficult to remove (buy one and try it). There's hundreds of people that party in that house per week, what about all that DNA from those individuals? Cell phone triangulation is very unreliable, especially in more rural areas. These pings can put someone 3 - 5 miles from where someone thinks they are, Moscow Idaho is only 3 miles across and only 6 miles from Pullman Washington. If there are applications on his phone that recorded his GPS movements, that's WAY more accurate (within feet) than a cell phone tower ping. To me, the DNA on a sheath button found without another source of DNA in the house or on the victims is sketchy as heck. Many questions are left unanswered because of this gag order. I hope that BK is the right person but so far it's been tough for me to agree that it's him. 🤷. Guess we'll have to hear the other evidence
About time someone said I don't understand how people think this guy is innocent, BASED on what we have. It's absolutely ridiculous. Nice to see someone present facts. Not throw crap at the wall all day and scream conspiracy! Not to use numerology to solve cases 😂. Like that clown on UA-cam
BTW watch out, the conspiracy theorists are all over your comment section with irrefutable proof he's innocent with arguments such as, no he didn't
Is there video of him pulling up to his apartment early morning and what he was wearing,carrying any bags or anything? This guy IS the killer but I’ve never heard anything about him getting home. Neighbors see him,heard him arriving? Great job Grey. I get a kick out of the call ins.
I won't be surprised (if they do have a trial) that we learn that he drove this exact route many times in the days and weeks leading up to the murder, that he honed this route, practiced it, made sure he knew every single step he would take after the murders to make sure it was 'safe' for him to get away clean. That is why he chose the time that he did, etc. He had to be able to get away when campus police and local police had decided to relax a bit for the night, and that happens after 3am. I think he knew which intersections were most likely to have a police cruiser watching traffic, etc. And that he practiced the entire crime many times, probably even walking up to the building and back to his car to see if anyone would be alarmed, if they'd notice him. If he is noticed, he abandons the plan and gives a story. If not, he knows he can get in and out and he knows how long that takes precisely. That is what an intelligent killer would do, this man is not a dummy.
His route was too erratic for that logic.
@@juniperrob4741 I disagree , he took this exact same route twice that we know of . He strategically turned his phone off and then back on when he was outside the range , he knew police would’ve considered in investigative range. And he wanted to be sure if he was seen , he was not seen coming from Moscow but coming from south of Pullman . One main mistake made was he should have turned phone off BEFORE he left his apartment , not after starting his trip . They would think he was at home ..,imo
@@juniperrob4741 Well, I strongly disagree and since you didn't provide much besides stating that you disagree, I suppose we are sort of at a stalemate here. In an attempt to move you, I'd ask you to be more specific. I don't think it is erratic at all. I have smoked marijuana for years, I used to drive around and smoke it. A lot fo my friends did. 'Doobie cruise'. We knew which intersections, etc. were the busiest, where cops like to post up, which roads to take to avoid those, and that route would seem erratic, but it was not. And if you mapped it out, it would seem we were driving without purpose, but that was not true. Since he was breaking the law, since I already stated what i did, did you even consider my point before disagreeing? I don't think that you did at all, or maybe I didn't communicate my point very well. I think he drove this exact route many, many, many times. I do, you have not refuted my logic.
@@juniperrob4741 Nothing about this killing was random, or even implied to be random. It is considered very calculated, that they were lucky to catch a break to their suspect. That if it is not him, that they are truly clueless. Why wouldn't the escape route also be calculated!?!? You really think he did this, if he did, without a trial run? Yet, was so efficient? C'mon man. Of course he considered the route that was the cleanest get away. Of course he did, and of course he practiced it. Safe assumption, dude. It really is.
@@juniperrob4741 If he is the killer, the only actual mistake that he made was forgetting that knife sheath, massive mistake, and not considering f'ing ring cameras, hahahahahaha, also massive. Dude calculated everything, that he could think of. There were so many mistakes that he did not make though. He made two, that is it. They barely caught this dude.
Good information. Logical. Good sequencing of presentation. I hope 12 jurors can follow it and reach a logical conclusion.
Your videos are spot on! Others continue to ignore the facts, although it’s not evidence, it’s very strong that it points directly at BK. Is it possible he’s innocent? Yep. Is it probable he’s guilty? Absolutely!!!
Thank you for another sensible analysis.
This style of video is so good. Thank you Grey
DNA ALONE is enough of his guilt for me
Excellent showing of the #1 car at the crime address and around the area on the night of the killing. Thanks . ❤️
When true crime is not black & white, Gray Hughes Investigates. This one is a black & white case. (slam dunk)😉
I agree with you 💯%, but i think all these other UA-camrs put stuff out for likes and watches. But... I also think he had help.. id like you to gove your thought on why the 2 living roommates did nothing for 8 hours. I also thinkk they should keep that house up until after the first trial concludes. Never destroy ANY evidense until theres a verdict. It could sway that one juror to understand something that gets that guilty verdict. Nothing beats being at the scene and feeling what it was like. Great video. Thanks for your time. Have a great New Years .
You’re absolutely right! There’s no way any sane person could think he’s innocent!
I think the majority of the koldbooger supporters are just people that like to be different.....root for the underdog type folks. The evidence is overwhelming imo........every vid youve made drives that point home. I think hes headed to DR.....I believe he also knows whats coming........Guilty as charged. Keep up the fine work GH👍
Gray you are great. Thank you for having integrity and common sense. And watching your shows are so much more entertaining without the ridiculous conspiracies. I also agree about the house. I think there is enough evidence without saving the house. Its almost like the more you have in a case the more they need (as far as evidence is concerned )to prove that someone is guilty. It's like people (jurys) want to be able to put it together a little bit themselves.. if you give them everything on a silver platter that's when the conspiracies start. Its hard to describe but anyways you are the best at this and really all I care to watch anymore..
Gray, I’m sure you have seen and heard some of the conspiracy theories going around on social media. Some of them are so far fetched, I can’t believe people would truly think it’s what took place on November 13, 2022. Kohberger is the guy. When you put all the things against him together, he’s either the most unfortunate man in the world, or he’s the perp. I think that LE and the prosecutors have all they need from that house. I also believe that LE and the prosecution have so much evidence against BK that this case will be a slam-dunk. Thanks for being a voice of reason and common sense.
Yip I agree , think its a slam dunk case they have so much evidence he definitely did it , a think we'll all be a bit shocked
OK👀
Spot on. ❤
@@nicolagoode6384agreed, we will all say, Ah, now I see.
Don't be surprised if the jury returns a very quick conviction on this one.
great job Gray love the break down of this case.. keep it going
Gray top ten favs of 2023! 🍾...top ten fascinating cases to Gray.
If the evidence about the car and phone was solid, they would have detained him before the IGG. It wasn't and they didn't.
Everything fell into place 👍
Sometimes LE watches for further incriminating evidence. Gray said on a previous show that LE confirmed the DNA with evidence from a trash can and If I am not mistaken, later directly from a mouth swab. They covered all their bases in case the future defense had problems with the DNA and to be absolutely “clean” in court later.
@Physics4290 There’s a lot of evidence the public doesn’t and shouldn’t have before trial. We will be surprised.
Your facts and explanations of this case is excellent. it makes us think. Grat work Gray.🤠
Have you seen the recent interview with steve goncalves? He said that law enforcement told him he needed to take a breath and relax because they had 100% more stuff then what everyone knows and they have this "in the bag". He said after that he did relax and trusts them.
Best comment ever. I so hope it's true.
Hope you all had a great Christmas!
Yes, it was wonderful. Thank you! You as well! ✨
I don’t understand why the above comment had the tag at the end. UA-cam has been doing crazy things lately.
@hoosiermama9571
Yes, Christmas was lovely here. I hope yours was, too, and I am keeping the families of the victims in my heart, as well.
Ugh holidays can be so ruff, I remember when Steve Goncalves said last year they're not gonna have a Christmas this year; it's canceled. @@sandyshirley5079 🤍🤍🤍🤍
Great analysis thank you !!
You have nicely scripted the prosecution's closing argument.
There is no reasonable doubt.
Question is will there be a freak juror who will void the death penalty?
In the very least Kohberger will spend life in prison.
And that would be merciful for his mom & dad & sisters.
I feel for families of the victims but also Kohberger's family. I've been invested in this case. I really hope if he is guilty that he is given life rather than the death penalty. I can't imagine what it must be like being a family member of an accused.
I couldn't agree with Gray more regarding BK.
I suppose technically Bundy moved to Tacoma from PA, but he was just a little kid. he grew up here. thanks for being a voice of reason amidst all the crazy theories about cover ups.
Great Video as always Gray.... The only "reason" I can see people saying to not demolish that house of horrors is that some hellbent juror may put in a requeast to think its necessary to "see the scene" as it relates to the time intervals or whatever .. the layout, etc... I dont agree with that but I can see a juror out of 12 thinking that way...
PS.. I emailed ya another cool rendition of that song you played the other night sung by a homeless man over a decade ago on the Opie and Anthony Show... keep up the great work...
Ivan
My thoughts about the traveling…I live in northern Utah. To drive from Washington/Idaho to Pennsylvania, one takes I 80 through Wyoming is the fastest. In the winter though, many times I 80 could be closed, especially around Cheyenne. So some drivers will drive south through Utah and pick up I 70, going eastbound through Colorado….And is seldom closed.
Those who defend him are slapping victims families I'm the face.....I know because my mother was murdered .....
I’m so sorry to hear that and you are absolutely right.
You leave the house standing until after the trial!
I think Gray, he took different things from different serial killers he studied. And tried to perfect his crime.
Thank You I Think Most of Idaho Thanks You!! Except the few Lunes!! 👍
I agree with you Gray, about the demo of the house, I understand both sides. Time is the question. 5 years for trial, then tear it down. Next summer as stated, keep it up. It can’t hurt.
Since I haven’t heard not one girl come forward saying they slept with him, I am leaning towards him being an incel. Unless LE spoke to some girls we don’t know about.
Someone his age surely should have had at least one long-term relationship in his life.
@@ad6417 agreed. He’s almost 30.
Safe to say there are None
And not one visitor to his confinement....Any male friends ? To visit him?
No one ..no male friends let alone female....the classic loner....
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Well straight up and no confusion, i think BK is 100% GUILTY and thats never wavered. From the moment he was arrested, when they showed his picture and i could reserarch him, everything pointed to him and that feeling ive had in tbe past in other cases, without a doubt, i believe they have the right guy. And as more and more information came out, nothing has given me doubt, the evidence continues to stack up. But put the forensic evidence aside, the circumstantial evidence on top of criminal profile of this killer, it all continues to match up perfectly. Essentially, he is the perfect suspect. EVERYTHING points to him. I do not understand how some people are denying the obvious. I think some people just like to debate and create doubt because they can....but he still the killer and i haveno problem pointing to him and calling him the killer. What does piss me off though is the smug look BK gets on his face whenever he walks into the courtroom; i did this but im going to get away with it because im so much smarter than all of you, im untouchable. Lets leave him in the room with Steve Concalves and call it a day.
Thanks, great video and yes I believe he absolutely did it !!!
Finally a voice of reason in a sea of conspiracy.
hi from luxembourg 👋🏻, I am eager too to see this one, whoever was not convinced this awful dude committed this hainous crimes just has to have a look at your last videos about BK, awsome research and work 💪🏻!
I know it's so nice to have a normal person to talk about this case with..Gray is an amazing leader..❤
Agreed❤
What is interesting to me is that Maddie didnt receive nearly the amount of injury/ wounds as the other 3 victims. To me, that seems to suggest that she never quite woke up during the attack. This also seems to indicate that the person who committed these crimes was not so much acting out of rage as perhaps reacting to 3 potential witnesses or defending himself- perhaps panicking, thus over reacting. He may not have intended to kill the remaining 3 victims. All that said, perhaps the killer was provoked by reason, not fantasy.
@@cherylbutler2452your comment makes sense. To me, it was personally pointed towards her. I would have every text message, Snapchat, voicemail, DM on earth that's tied to her phone examined. Whomever did this was extremely mad at her and jealous (and she was leaving campus). There must be a connection regarding her somewhere.
I think she was the target and killed first easily, then Kaylee woke up and tried to fight him
you don't know if kaylee had 52 stab wounds. that is not reported anywhere.@@cherylbutler2452
Thanks Gray. I wonder what weirdo thing he did in Colorado before his trip home.
Agree, and I’m curious if we know that LE questioned his father about BK’s stops/behavior in UT, CO, and KS
I’ve wondered about that, too. His confidence may have been higher than usual so maybe someone who encountered him there will say something about speaking with him.
Keep it going Grey, I totally agree with you. THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO!!!!
This has been my exact thoughts/question regarding the house.
Have to admit though the way swat killed off Brent K was not within protocol. Inan is a weirdo too. Constantly back tracked on his story. Asking questions is NOT conspiracy.
Does anyone think he might not have been alone in the crime?
EDIT: I did not say he had a partner. I did not say he didn't do it.
no
Most SKs DO operate alone. If it is the time frame that makes you think otherwise, Gray did another video, showing that BK had plenty of time to stab 4 kids who were half asleep and taken by surprise.
No. He is sociopath and can't form meaningful connection with anybody .
@@nonamninom9344 ok. I could agree with that.
@kimberlygabaldon3260 I'm just asking a question. I said "might". I never said he wasn't alone.
The defence is eluding to his innocence, it’s throwing people off. All the evidence will come out in trial ⚖️
I agree with you, Gray. He is the one.
I can’t join yet. Am on a fixed income. Oh well thanks Gray. Have a Good New Year, Gray and everyone else.
You could get gifted a membership. Make sure that setting is on. We appreciate your viewership! 📺 The Like Button is Always a GraytT way to support the channel as well 👍😉
I’m on a fixed income, too. The first tier membership is $1.99 monthly, but if you join on an Apple device it’s $2.99. Just comes up that way. 🤷🏻♀️
You should join on the first tier then, don't use Apple. Do you have a different computer you can use or a tablet like a non-Mac then you could get the lower rate@@sandyshirley5079
Great video Gray!
I agree 100% that kohberger is guilty . I do think the house should have remained until after this trial . It may have been good for the jury to walk through
Thanks Grey. Good thoughts.
I totally agree with you. BK is absolutely guilty.
Playing car tag😂😂 you make my day with this shit Gray lol
I’m baffled by his shear confidence in the fact that there wasn’t a security alarm set on the house. Had he been inside the home before during a party and was able to look around to survey if there was an alarm system in place? I wish there would have been some barriers in place to prevent him from getting inside so easily without making any noise, alerting anyone inside. Please take this as a wake up call. A group of young people (esp girls) living close to any college campus or university needs to be protected with home security systems in place and being used. You just never know when there may be a Kohlberger lurking in the dark.
The main thing a lot of people that think BK is guilty is that he has to be proven "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt." He can be 100% guilty, and everyone could know it, but if his attorneys are somehow able to miraculous show there is a reasonable alternative to the murders where someone other than BK committed them, regardless of how much everyone knows he did it, legally he has to be found not guilty. Right now, only having a small amount of evidence that the prosecution has, along with a lot of circumstantial evidence, saying he's guilty and not understanding how anyone can say he's not guilty, is to me unfathomable. If there was more evidence that had been made public that led to the belief BK was anything other than not guilty, I could understand, but there's way to much hearsay evidence and not enough known solid evidence to rationally jump to that conclusion.
I personally think he's guilty, but I won't say there's no way he can be found not guilty without knowing all the evidence against him.
no, they literally think he didn't do it.
@@GrayHughesInvestigatesand they might be right. With the little bit we know publicly there's only our personal opinions that say he did do it. Not accepting the fact that there might be evidence that can't be explained by the prosecution and that doesn't directly point to BK, to me is a rush to judgement, regardless of how strong my own views are that he's guilty.
You watched too much law and order lmao
@@malloryknox6802 I hardly ever watched that show, and when I did, it was bits and pieces and never an entire episode, so I'm sorry to tell you but your attempt to discredit anything I've said as the ramblings of someone that got all their knowledge of the justice system from a t.v. show, has failed.
@@gothicbagheera Scott Peterson was convicted on circumstantial evidence only so reasonable doubt is not the big deal you think it is. Now if Bryan was a woman maybe they would let him walk free like Casey Anthony, but he's not
Social media, is all about numbers, these numbers are gathered by interaction, this is why there is so many trolls in all genre of internet especially in the the true crime community, I put very little stock of people's opinions on line. Far too many people go against everything they believe to cater to the numbers game of Social media, must of the people involved in the story of kohberger being innocent probably don't even think that but realize how the sensational view gets clicks and comments the stir controversy thus successfully fulfilling their intended purpose.
Exactly right.
There's a comment on this video from a guy called Andy he's a kohberger is innocent victim 😅 you know he says a line in his comments " kohberger would not be interested in Bums at a party house" quote.
How thoughtful and generous of him to say that
It shows how out of touch these groups of trolls are 😢
It's disgusting honestly
@@el34glo59 it sure is disgusting 🤮
Great video. I never thought about his trek home, some Bundy sight seeing? Keep up the great work!!!
Another great video Gray, Facts matter, Truth Matters.
Gray, why are there so many out there people commenting on your videos?
ACCURATE HE IS SO GUILTY ELECTRIC CHAIR!
Thanks Gray! Still not to late to hit the 👍!! Thanks freaks!!
Thanks for this
Well done!!!
Can’t wait to see this one❤❤
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Hitting the like button before the show. Brian killed those people. Anyone who says they didn't believes in fairies and ghosts.
I wonder what book was seized in the search warrant. The book that had page 118, underlined.
Guess im taking my lunch break at 1:30 today 😂
I was a pro khoburger innocent until lately and must say you have done such good work along with facts and logic ive turn a full turn around,i just needed a channel like yours and to take your mind out these channels that blocks common sense with no facts or research they actually make me sick,ive no idea how or why khoburger did this as my brain is not wired in same way but im not ignorant or stupid either,makes you see these kids as people and what kristi goncalves says about the bogey man,makes you have a really good think about these kids
Great video👍🏼
No. Trolls don’t back track. They just change their screen names. 😂😂😂
I salute mr gray hughes,all these true crime communities channels should take a look and see how its really done from a true gentleman,many thanks gray
Basically since he is in jail indicted of the crimes. He is guilty till proven innocent in this case if you really think about it. He will remain in jail if not proven innocent.
Thanks, Gray.
From what I've seen so far, (mostly on your channel), the evidence looks overwhelming.
It sure is.
Totally agree💯
Bryan is 100% innocent and when he’s found innocent i hope he sues you for everything you own
Well done video
I believe with everything, inside of my being , that it was him 😮
I felt he looked guilty at the beginning of all of this, however white elantra plus no front plate cinched it for me.
But why THESE kids? It should not have been ANY kids but why were THESE kids targets? Your analysis is spot on! 9:33. Also don’t these knives hang off a belt loop in their sheath? I mean why did he have the sheath detached from the belt loop and loose? Presumably the sheath would have remained attached to the belt loop. It’s strange that the sheath was loose.
I guess we will find that out.
I think what he was wearing didn’t have anything to look that sheath onto. No jeans or the like. All dark or black clothing.
You could say that about any stranger crime.. “why them” is that really a valid point?
@@Acidandrain0 exactly right, why killers pick victims, is anyone’s guess. Only they know.
@@GarretGrayCameraSerial killers don't have motive.