I absolutely love that you gave life back to these men & made them into people as a whole not just victims. They were people, war veterans, brothers and sons. We need more stories put in this way. Victims need their life back , from the life they led and who they were, to unfortunately how their death happened.
I totally agree. All of the channels that do these kinds of mysteries almost always miss out on the opportunity to humanize the victims. Like you said, they deserve the respect and they deserve to "live," again. I suppose this is the effect of a woman's touch. Also, it may sound morbid, but I know that I'm not the only one who watches these videos late at night in the dark because I enjoy being creeped out. Well, humanizing the victims also has the effect of making the videos scarier, as it becomes easier to relate to the victims when you know their backstory. I know that sounds fucked up, but I'm just being honest.
@@dacealksne that was how their families referred to them tho. They were collectively known as the boys and it didn’t seem like they had a problem with it. 🤷♀️
I have never seen anyone do a story on this. Gary Mathias was my uncle. My mother’s brother. My grandparents always held onto hope he would walk through the door someday. My uncle had a heart of gold and loved his friends very much. It is believed by family that the boys were chased or threatened somehow. Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I have better pictures if you need them. ☺️
Jessica Smith oh my god! Thank you for the offer, could you pm me or Merc with some!! We can put a credit for you!! Wow, I’m sorry for your loss, e sounded like a great guy!
My name is Tammie and I'm Gary Mathias's sister. I was pleasantly pleased how this story was told. For the first time since 45 years ago Gary wasnt put down or degraded for his mental disability. Thank you for putting a little light in my life that my brother was human.
This story breaks my heart. I have a younger brother with special needs who I have always been extremely protective over. As he is getting older, 21 this year, we are slowly starting to give him more freedoms and responsibilities. I can’t even imagine something like this happening to him. Great job covering this case! I hope the families were able to find some sort of peace.
Like many others have stated, its awesome to hear a story i haven't heard on a thousand other channels. Very well put together and narrated. You guys really did your research on this one. Very sad and frustrated story but I thought it was a beautiful touch to let us get to know the victims like that. I love a good mystery but you also let us see beyond the "story" and remember that these were real people and this really happened. Thanks a lot for taking the time and effort. So glad I became a subscriber.
Wow. That was a fascinating and eerie unsolved mystery, superbly narrated and produced. Kudos for the respectful treatment of mental illness. I feel for the families and just hope that one day they find answers.
Random fact about the third photo in the beginning of the video. That photo was taken in 1940 in Finland, Suomussalmi during the Winter War. It shows dead, frozen Soviet soldiers of the 44th Division lying along the roadside after the Finnish victory at the Battle of Suomussalmi.
That intro was awesome. I really liked how you added the other examples of people with Schizophrenia, it really forces people to think about their preconceived notions on the disorder. Excellent video, as always.
As a (Simple) Schizophrenic, it actually made me smile. My type of schizophrenia isn't the kind she was talking about, but people make assumptions about the diagnosis the moment they hear the word because of how media tend to portray it. The way the narrator put it up in the beginning is new and very much welcome.
You are so very pretty. Plus, your channel has H.P. Lovecraft, videos on the Gigas Codex and the Voynich Manuscript, and other mysteries. 😌 Really not trying to be creepy. It's just really cool.
Thanks! I really enjoy the stranger side of history, and I really enjoy being able to entertain (and hopefully some times educate) other people with the same interests.
This story breaks my heart every time I hear it. I always feel so much sadness more than anything else. They we're such good true hearted people that got stuck in a terrible situation that made these vulnerable men so much more vulnerable.
One of my favorite podcasts just covered this story last week and it was my first time hearing about it. Now one of my favorite UA-cam channels is doing it and I have to say you guys covered it so much better! Details of the men's personalities were super important yet heartbreaking at the same time. It really humanizes them rather than turn them into victims and nothing more. Love your channel! Have a great rest of your night! :)
William McLellan I did a search under that name (the trail went cold) but nothing came up. Where can i find it? The only other vid I was able to find on this subject was from a UA-camr called Dark Curiosities...like a lot of others, it's refreshing to find episodes that handle lesser-known mysteries instead of the same ones over and over!
+Linda Roy it's not a video- it's a Podcast. Look up 'The Trail Went Cold' on a search engine and you'll find it as a recent instalment. Lots of other fascinating cases too- you're in for a treat :)
very well done; but everyone seems to skip right over the story of the man with the heart attack mentioning other vehicles, voices, the man and woman and possibly a baby being carried in arms, the flashlight shone into his car... the pickup truck... I think there is much more to this, and I think it is NOT about these young men all going off on their own because they were mentally challenged. I feel that other people were involved and that their deaths resulted from some sort of foul play.
Julian 3 i dont think there was a car and if it was, 6 died of hypothermia due to intoxication and the woman cut her tounge off and guaged her eyes out and cut up the tent . So if they were cold they could've went home because everyone wasn't intoxicated.
I was glued to every word, brilliantly written & narrated... Your initial introduction to each individual involved created a real feeling of familiarity & empathy. A respectful piece which pays tribute to a very sad & puzzling tale.
Very well done guys! I have never heard anything about this and its not that far from home. Done with compassion and very thorough. So utterly incomprehensible tho! Terribly sad. 5 families left with almost nothing but pain and confusion. Wow. Thankyou.😯
So one parent claims that the men had no money, yet the guy found in the trailer had a wallet with cash. Clearly, the parents (or the original reporters) did not have every detail straight. The sighting at the store was likely correct, imo.
Ya they were given the money they needed for the night and had snacks all ready think about it if you had the money you need for the game and to get in or whatever they would not have spent it on snacks lol
the 4th guy in the emergency trailer was especially shocking. An emergency trailer, with books, furniture, a bed, fully functional propane tank heater, water, canned food, matches, and multiple years' worth of instant meals - and this guy happened to find it, 21 miles from the road, in the middle of nowhere... but absolutely nothing was touched. Didn't use the heater, didn't make a fire, didn't eat one morsel of food, did not even open the cabinet to get to the food, nor read a single book. So he finds this sanctuary in the middle of nowhere and starved to death after 12 to 20-something weeks inside of it. Either it took him 12 to 20-something weeks BEFORE he found it, at which point he decided to immediately rest and DIED there.... or (and this would be especially heartbreaking) decided that since the trailer, books, heater, and food did not belong to him, he would've rather starved than to steal anything from the owner.... I say this because the case stated the boys DID belong to a special school. they were below average intelligence, and had "a childish view of following all the rules", coming home before dark, being in bed by a certain time, etc. etc. You don't actually think this would've been the scenario, would it? That he would've found it "wrong" to steal food and whatnot so he stayed there for 4 months and didn't touch a single thing to stay alive??
AllCal530 They were slow, yes, but not that retarded to not eat food if it was in front of them. One can was open IIRC, but my guess is that his hands and fingers were so frostbitten that he coudn't feed himself and just waited for the others to go get help. Ended up starving to death. I think either his state was the worst from all of them (was this the one without the jacket?), or he stayed behind in case someone else came to the trailer. All the bodies were found close to the trailer so it looks like they found it together, my guess is they wanted to find help and planned to return for him. The schizophrenic guy changed shoes with him it seems, could of made it farthest before he died, so his remains were not found.
Andrej Púčať That actually makes a lot of sense. If one was in a really bad way they'd tell him to stay inside while they went for help. Do you think it's possible there actually was a girl involved(like the witness said)? Possibly someone they met at the game that got them to go where she wanted and then things went bad somehow. I could see a girl being the only reason the guys would do something abnormal like taking a different road. As far as going into the woods, it just seems like even if their car was actually stuck, they would have stayed in it with the heat on and waited until someone drove by. So to me them leaving their car is the biggest mystery.
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Having a morbid fascination with the paranormal, true crime and these kinds of mysteries myself, I have, at least in my opinion, a pretty extensive knowledge of those kinds of stories. It's a very rare occurrence to see one I've never heard before! Congrats, great video, great channel! So glad I subbed😀
Tracy Herwig I am the same exact way. I’ve always been interested in the paranormal & the macabre. I’m always reading articles about different crimes, murders, serial killers, paranormal incidents, etc. I also ,personally think that I have extensive knowledge about similar information. So it’s definitely rare to find a case that I hadn’t heard of before. . My fiancée thinks I’m a weirdo.
jo CO I don't think you're a weirdo, CLEARLY you just have superior taste in entertainment and education!😀 Don't worry though, my husband gives me "side eye" every time some criminal or paranormal case is on tv and I go, "ooo, this is a good one!" And then proceed to rattle off all the facts in great and hideous detail, lol. 😂
Ok, great piece much appreciated, well thought out and research is evident. Thank you. Here’s my 2 cents. Boys stopped for snack, encountered someone(s) while stopped claiming they were in need of help. Got in the car with them. At this point all this person would need to do is take control of one boy- maybe with a knife- to get psychological control of the rest. Forced them to drive to this remote area to meet with someone else. They leave the boys in the dark, in the cold, in an unfamiliar area. Boys decide to walk to get help only there isn’t any help. Cold takes over and muddles their senses and ability to cope. They start making really bad decisions. The one who finds the cabin is in such bad shape that he isn’t able to think thru starting a fire or using the LP tank. Maybe he thinks that someone must be coming back soon. Assuming that someone lives there. Eventually he succumbs as well. Whatever really happened we will probably never know. I feel so bad for these guys, kids really. May they all Rest In Peace. May their families also find peace.
Ironic how the two "psychics" had views that were basically polar opposites from each other. Shows how much value you can place in that type of nonsense, eh? And why did they claim, after one witness said she spotted them at a store, that they had no money when Ted's wallet was found with money in it? Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of misleading information floating around this case. Such a sad story, though.
I don’t know that I would quite consider this to be a Missing 411 case. Yes, a few unexplained events took place, but the majority of the events have a rational explanation. I will admit that I immediately thought of Missing 411 when the missing shoes were mentioned. Would have been nice to know if they were found on one of the other guys.
I was born and raised within a hour from where this happened and I have never heard of this case. Just doesn’t make sense Why stay in the trailer for so many weeks but not even checking the gas. This trailer was either a hunting spot or a illegal growth area, which it was winter so nothing was being grown. But the gas and the food storage means it somewhere people go to. Why stay so long when during the day lite hours they could have walked out rather easy? Loosing a 100 lbs and the facial growth just doesn’t make sense. Even if they didn’t know the area during the day they could have found their way out why stay at a trailer and starve? Years ago people kept their hunting lodges stocked with everything they would need to survive people used the honor system. If someone got like lost and found a cabin or trailer that usually had the means for a fire and food, you didn’t vandalise you treated someone else property with respect and usually replaced what they used. This system helped many that got lost. Why didn’t they search the trailer better? Why didn’t they all stay at the trailer until day light? Just doesn’t make sense unless the one that is missing was the cause of the deaths of the others?
The trailer was 20 miles from their car. They were all suffering severely from hypothermia. Ted Weihler, the guy who was found in the trailer, had the lightest clothing of them all. Two of the men didn't make it more than 8 miles away from the car. By the time any of them made it to the trailer they were all very ill..... And that's not even asking why the hell they drove out there and left their car.
It's not a hunting lodge or a 'grow' house, it's a park ranger cabin. It's been stated in other videos that the guy found in bed had serious frostbite resulting in gangreen.
Wow ! Excellent presentation , thanks. I've been interested in the weird and creepy since 1969 , never heard of this case before. Thankyou also for being so respectful towards these young men.Very sad and mysterious , so sad for their families.
I thoroughly enjoyed everything about this video, from Alexandria's tranquil voice, to her incredibly detailed descriptions of the men who went missing. It is very easy to see just how much research she did, and how much time and effort she put into telling this story. Well done, Alexandria!
the production quality of this channel just keeps getting better and better! loved the intro, and the cases you choose to explore are always so interesting (and not often heard of).
This was excellent. Well researched and eloquently presented. I've said this before, and I'll say it again; if you keep up this level of quality, this channel will be huge in a year or two. Several channels already exist with the same themes and style of content. But, they rarely to never have the quality and depth that this channel does. I have yet to be disappointed by a video from Merc.
Well I have yet to finish watching this, and am only at the beginning, I very much wanted to take the time to pause and to Express gratitude and appreciation to the author of this piece, for the incredible lengths they went to articulate the important and significant difference between mental handicap and cognitive deficiency... And mental illness. As well as the remarkable amount of effort they put into illustrating many noteworthy, historically successful figures who suffered with mental illness, particularly schizophrenia, which is not widely known. The amount of effort and compassion displayed here, and the unspoken understanding of the stigma of mental illness and the unfortunate presumption, even still, that mental illnesses somehow equate to mental deficiency, when that isn't true, is a very rare thing indeed. Not many people take the time to illustrate such a point, nor do those who attempt to do so do so as well as seen here. It would be apparent to me, at the risk of being presumptuous, that the author very much understands the ongoing and pervasive stigma that surrounds mental illness to this day, and the importance of dispelling such Common misnomers. Can't emphasize enough how much I appreciate and admire that.
Aww, I work with guys very like the descriptions here (in a place similar to their Gateway). While watching it I was thinking "What would John, Martin, Mark, Ifor, Bryn, Jack do in these circumstances?" Like the families and friends here, it's incomprehensible that they would deviate from the days plan or thoroughly familiar places. They just wouldn't! (Except for Ifor maybe, but the others wouldn't have followed him anywhere as they regard him as 'sometimes irresponsible' and look after him.) They would be concerned with safety, and not leaving somewhere they regard as safe and warm. I'm sure my guys would be found at the car, waiting for someone to find them. How awful for the families to be left with such a mystery. My friends are all harmless, innocent, 'child men' who aren't daring or brave, but very sweet, funny, caring, gentle and loving, they'd each give their last £1 to someone they thought was in need. Very like these men are described. I can't imagine how sorrowful it would be if they came to such an strange and awful end. Nice work on the narration, especially for including the descriptions by the families which rounded out the personalities. Instead of just educationally retarded or slow. Well done Alexandria Tucker!
littlewoodimp You are doing an amazing job working with the differently-abled. Thank you for your thoughts and I hope no families will have to go though anything like this again.
Exactly. They had to have been coerced. I still want to know about the woman and child. I don't think Schoner would have mistook any of these men for a woman with a child. That's a very distinct observation. I'm still sticking to my hitchhiking mountain witch theory.
@@adlanti-definitionleague8659 Eye witness accounts are notoriously unreliable. Throw in the conditions and his stressful state, and it's very plausible that no woman or child existed.
This is a very, very sad case but really well researched and narrated. Great to see at the end that you provided numbers for anyone with any relevant information. Great vid, thanks.
Wow that's crazy. I've lived in Oroville most of my life, have been to Marysville, yuba City, and Brownsville, and today is the first time I've ever heard about this case. So sad these boys were forgotten by history
So creepy. I feel so bad for the families. Its difficult to imagine what the these men went through. Equally as bizarre is the account that the guy on the road described. Sounds similar to the Missing 411 phenomena. Thank you for bringing attention to this case. Excellent video. I had never heard of this case either.
I'd never heard of it either and I'm someone with really bad insomnia who has nothing but time to indulge my thirst for all of this kind of stuff. This was quite a treat to not only learn something new but have a 30 min video to boot! 😍
teri lefevers How cool! I wonder what the statistics are on the people who suffer from insomnia who also are true crime and mystery buffs? Must be a correlation. Yeah, I'm on lots of creepy channels 😊
teri lefevers You got to ask your self, How many of these incidents have taken place that we never heard about, This is extraordinary strange, very parallel to David Pauldies,411 missing cases.More facts,were added which makes it more intriguing.
How sad is that? I once experienced first hand what it's like to loose sense in the extreme cold. You get to a point where you just don't care. If only one of them had known that you always stay with the car.
Several peoples body heat in the car was enough to survive . Eat snow for hydration you can last a month. I think the sasquatchs chased them, scared them kept them running. The one in bed in the trailer cabin, possibly sick or frozen by fear not wanting to make a noise? Fear is debilitating emotion.
I love you for this video. I heard about this sad case on another video, but that person summed up the guys as ‘mentally slow’ and that was it. I love how you took the time getting more into them and their personality. It’s such a tragic and confusing case...
Thank you so much for the huge amount of respect you showed for them! I loved how you started the video by humanizing all of them. I also loved how you made sure to destigmatize them, especially the part about schizophrenia.
Very intriguing, but sad mystery indeed. The part about the 2 guys who helped someone to the hospital stood out to me. This tells me they wouldn't leave the fellow who had a heart attack. They would have been more inclined to help. Terribly upsetting story. Thank you for bringing these events to our attention.
This is an interesting case. Poor guys... I've been balls deep in the Dyatlov Pass incident for years. Bob Gymlin has one of the best videos on the Dyatlov Pass if anyone wants to check out a goodie....? -Mark
Took a wrong turn, started to panic, disagreements, car stalled in the cold, they may of thought they had broken down, a car would then work when the weather becomes warmer. They disagree with what to do next and decide to walk, freezing, confused and in a state of panic they die. The guy in the mobile home is ill and confused. No mystery. A sequence of bad decisions.
@ It was stated that the car was "mildly" stuck, but that with 5 guys they should have been able to get it unstuck. Stalling could have happened trying to get the car going again. I think BambooLounge hit the nail right on the head. What confuses me is the fact that they didn't stay with the car...they at least had heat for the time being because it still had gas in it. Also, who put the sheets over the dead guy in the trailer and tucked them in? Strange.
I do think aswell they just got into the woods by some "simple" reason and got lost and got into panic. Just imagine being alone in a cold dark forest... i'd shit myself and freeze to panic. Probably only trained military for the purpose would not panic.
Totally agree. This was the first documentary I did on my own, research and script-wise. I even went to the forest they were lost in and drove around for hours looking for... gosh... I don't know what really... I just wanted to be where they were, to somehow make some sense of it all. The creepy thing was I found an old, dilapidated abandoned trailer but my phone took the pics wrong and my partner couldn't use them, sadly. But yes this has stuck with me a very long time. I just hope they were not scared but I know they were :(
Incredible video with an astounding amount of research for such a little known case. Very professional, great narration, informative, with a perfect dose of respect and empathy. First video I've seen from you guys, and well worth a sub. Thank you! 😊
I don’t think it quite meets the Missing 411 criteria. Although, I too immediately thought 411 when the shoes were mentioned, but then the video said that a different pair of shoes were left in their place. So this doesn’t fit with the missing show phenomenon in Missing 411.
Great video and a fascinating case. There is a minor potential inaccuracy however. In 1978 a Marathon bar was not an energy bar like is shown. It was a newer candy bar made from caramel and chocolate. It was long and interlaced and the name "Marathon" was meant to imply that it took a long time to consume it.
@Christopher Reeves I even went the extra step to see if they still made them and it turns out they are still made by Cadbury under the name "Curly Wurly" bar.
Just noodling here: Sounds like they were acting as though they were suspicious of the driver who had the mild heart attack, perhaps having gotten worked up into general fearfulness over something they had seen and interpreted as a threat. I think the car got abandoned because they got out (for some unknown reason), separated from each other, and couldn't find their way back. Maybe a stranger to them, a hitchhiker perhaps, was involved, too. In any event, I think their actions may have been taken in a state of fear about something, or in a panic at their situation. The possibilities are endless.
Mr. Shone had something to do with this case. He said he went out to check the snow levels for an anticipated trip the next weekend? Gimme a break. That stinks on ice. I believe he was cruising around and ran across these young men and had them follow him thus luring them to their death. There is one thing and one thing only that those young men would have went that far out of the way and taken that much risk for. I believe Mr. Shone used the promise of that one thing to lure these guys. When they got to where the car was found Mr Shone produced a hand gun and when the guys didn't go along with his program, probably discharged it. This is why the guys were scared to come back to the car. All that excitement caused Mr. Shone's heart attack and all those others he claims to have seen while stuck in his car were a hot dish of red herring to remove suspicion. The cops wouldn't have grilled him because of the heart attack. Of course this is all speculation but remember, all this happened during a snow storm. Him and those young men were the only ones out there. And the propane tank? More than once,I have had the regulator to freeze making the fuel useless.
A heartbreaking story, presented with tact and care. Well done, and hopefully someday the surviving family members will have some closure of any new leads are found.
Very well made video. I have a fascination for the unknown and unexplained, and it's rare to find a case/story that I've not yet heard about. This was a story I was unfamiliar with, good job!
Thank you for taking the time to show that these were highly functioning, law abiding, compassionate men who were very loved and contributed to their community just as much as anyone else, in fact probably more so than a lot of people. This is such a sad and mind-boggling case, I hope their families get some answers one day.
Alexandria has the best narrator voice I’ve heard in awhile. That is saying something coming from me because I have misophonia, and end up not watching all of a video because I can’t tolerate the mouth noises.
I agree, but for a different reason. I've don't understand why women are suddenly speaking in a way that makes them sound like dolts. Every statement has the inflection going up at the end, which makes it sound like the person is asking a question or is unsure of themselves. It's really noticeable if one compares the speaking styles of women today compared to somebody like Lauren Bacall. Let's imagine Dan Rather reading the national news and speaking in that way. He'd be perceived as simple and fired. And while we're at it, stop with the shrillness and hand gestures. Tone it down. So yes...thanks very much for the professional presentation of this video. It was enjoyed.
Sid Finster it’s called high rising terminal and has become more common in recent years. It’s also known as the “Valley Girl” accent, due to LA Valley teenage girls speaking in the same manner. I dislike high rising terminal and I also dislike vocal fry. Both are completely and utterly irritating.
Very ArticulAtely voiced. Very pleasing to the ear and highly Professional. Thank you. The information was interesting and concise : yet compassionately told. Very well done.
Wonderfully done! Your site just keeps on growing and improving, I am loving watching your professional growth. Thank you and I shared on facebook, and twitter.
Great video! I do think they make too much of the car being in working order considering the weather conditions. Older cars without modern fuel injection stall out in cold weather, plain old moisture can accumulate in the distributor cap causing the car to stop running until it dries out unless u take a paper towel to it. I've actually had that happen with a newer car.. It literally died at a stop sign, i was stranded over an hour in the forest with no cell reception until an older mechanic stopped and showed me the condensation, wiped it out, and started the car right up. I'd driven for years in plenty of rain/snow without knowing this can happen. I was in higher elevation on Old Stage Road between Colorado springs and Cripple Creek maybe the attitude is a factor..? Cold, high, wet terrain will cause random failure in cars, so they may have believed they were stranded, then deprivation set in to explain the rest. Honestly diatlov is way more bizarre and sinister in my opinion..
The car was said to have been stuck. They didn't understand they could have used their strength to get out of this life threatening situation. But why would the guy not find the food rations in the unlocked cabinet? The propane tank that set unused.
Aww thank you!! This was my first "baby doc" but not my last! This was made years ago with my low quality mic and less high tech editing, we have grown so much as a channel and I'm so lucky we get to spotlight these terrible crimes and situations. Check out my latest "baby doc" "The Doodler! (SF's other serial killer still at large...)
another thought is that maybe the boys got into an altercation with each other and one of them got mad and flashed-out and threw the keys stupidly without thinking the keys were lost in the snow.
That's what I think happened. The schizo guy was ever found. He could've run off after an argument and either stolen the keys or thrown them into the woods.
I absolutely love that you gave life back to these men & made them into people as a whole not just victims. They were people, war veterans, brothers and sons. We need more stories put in this way. Victims need their life back , from the life they led and who they were, to unfortunately how their death happened.
She is calling adult men "boys" because of their mental handicap.
@@dacealksne what sort of cililized country puts retarded boys in the army, cannon fodder, its a crime agaist humanity
I totally agree. All of the channels that do these kinds of mysteries almost always miss out on the opportunity to humanize the victims. Like you said, they deserve the respect and they deserve to "live," again. I suppose this is the effect of a woman's touch.
Also, it may sound morbid, but I know that I'm not the only one who watches these videos late at night in the dark because I enjoy being creeped out. Well, humanizing the victims also has the effect of making the videos scarier, as it becomes easier to relate to the victims when you know their backstory. I know that sounds fucked up, but I'm just being honest.
@@dacealksne that was how their families referred to them tho. They were collectively known as the boys and it didn’t seem like they had a problem with it. 🤷♀️
I have never seen anyone do a story on this. Gary Mathias was my uncle. My mother’s brother. My grandparents always held onto hope he would walk through the door someday. My uncle had a heart of gold and loved his friends very much. It is believed by family that the boys were chased or threatened somehow. Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I have better pictures if you need them. ☺️
Jessica Smith oh my god! Thank you for the offer, could you pm me or Merc with some!! We can put a credit for you!! Wow, I’m sorry for your loss, e sounded like a great guy!
Jessica Smith I'm so sorry for your loss.
So sorry your family had to go through all that ☹️
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Sorry for your loss 😔
My name is Tammie and I'm Gary Mathias's sister. I was pleasantly pleased how this story was told. For the first time since 45 years ago Gary wasnt put down or degraded for his mental disability. Thank you for putting a little light in my life that my brother was human.
Why your last name Isn't Mathias?
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This was so well-written, so considerate of the lost lives of these men that I was this close to crying. Very well done.
Hilary Cullen thank you very much!!
Clearly Gary did this in my mind.... The paranoid schizophrenic
Ah! Su madre!!!
Este caso es incomprensible!!!
This story breaks my heart. I have a younger brother with special needs who I have always been extremely protective over. As he is getting older, 21 this year, we are slowly starting to give him more freedoms and responsibilities. I can’t even imagine something like this happening to him. Great job covering this case! I hope the families were able to find some sort of peace.
As someone who is schizoaffective, I appreciate the good light you put us in to.
Yeah the evidence does not incriminate him at all as well :)
They sounded like nice Men.
Mira .45 People who knew Mattias were afraid of him. He was violent.
@@rockstarofredondo violent!? Whoa mama!
Like many others have stated, its awesome to hear a story i haven't heard on a thousand other channels. Very well put together and narrated. You guys really did your research on this one. Very sad and frustrated story but I thought it was a beautiful touch to let us get to know the victims like that. I love a good mystery but you also let us see beyond the "story" and remember that these were real people and this really happened. Thanks a lot for taking the time and effort. So glad I became a subscriber.
Thank you :)
Wow. That was a fascinating and eerie unsolved mystery, superbly narrated and produced. Kudos for the respectful treatment of mental illness. I feel for the families and just hope that one day they find answers.
What crack are you smoking? The narration robot is cancer
Handsomely pudgy.
I feel much better about myself now.
Super Cat personally, I've always been attracted to guys with meat on their bones.
Yeah, intellectually slow. I'm gaining confidence too
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As my geography teacher used to say, "I'm festively plump!"
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Random fact about the third photo in the beginning of the video. That photo was taken in 1940 in Finland, Suomussalmi during the Winter War. It shows dead, frozen Soviet soldiers of the 44th Division lying along the roadside after the Finnish victory at the Battle of Suomussalmi.
More interesting than this story, thanks.
Was just about to say that
Thought that wasn't relevant to this...
@@kyles9320 no but it is still interesting
@@bobthebuilder2922 oh, agreed!
That intro was awesome. I really liked how you added the other examples of people with Schizophrenia, it really forces people to think about their preconceived notions on the disorder. Excellent video, as always.
Thank you Geaux :)
As a (Simple) Schizophrenic, it actually made me smile. My type of schizophrenia isn't the kind she was talking about, but people make assumptions about the diagnosis the moment they hear the word because of how media tend to portray it. The way the narrator put it up in the beginning is new and very much welcome.
You are so very pretty. Plus, your channel has H.P. Lovecraft, videos on the Gigas Codex and the Voynich Manuscript, and other mysteries. 😌
Really not trying to be creepy. It's just really cool.
Thanks! I really enjoy the stranger side of history, and I really enjoy being able to entertain (and hopefully some times educate) other people with the same interests.
Geaux schizophrenis is brain infections and heavy metals and is curable
This story breaks my heart every time I hear it. I always feel so much sadness more than anything else. They we're such good true hearted people that got stuck in a terrible situation that made these vulnerable men so much more vulnerable.
One of my favorite podcasts just covered this story last week and it was my first time hearing about it. Now one of my favorite UA-cam channels is doing it and I have to say you guys covered it so much better! Details of the men's personalities were super important yet heartbreaking at the same time. It really humanizes them rather than turn them into victims and nothing more. Love your channel! Have a great rest of your night! :)
EdgarAllenHoe
what podcast? I used to live in that area
+Lynn Mayer The Trail Went Cold Podcast
William McLellan I did a search under that name (the trail went cold) but nothing came up. Where can i find it? The only other vid I was able to find on this subject was from a UA-camr called Dark Curiosities...like a lot of others, it's refreshing to find episodes that handle lesser-known mysteries instead of the same ones over and over!
+Linda Roy it's not a video- it's a Podcast.
Look up 'The Trail Went Cold' on a search engine and you'll find it as a recent instalment.
Lots of other fascinating cases too- you're in for a treat :)
EdgarAllenHoe.
very well done; but everyone seems to skip right over the story of the man with the heart attack mentioning other vehicles, voices, the man and woman and possibly a baby being carried in arms, the flashlight shone into his car... the pickup truck... I think there is much more to this, and I think it is NOT about these young men all going off on their own because they were mentally challenged. I feel that other people were involved and that their deaths resulted from some sort of foul play.
Julian 3 i dont think there was a car and if it was, 6 died of hypothermia due to intoxication and the woman cut her tounge off and guaged her eyes out and cut up the tent . So if they were cold they could've went home because everyone wasn't intoxicated.
Malh Ido the fuck you talking about lol
You are referencing an event entirely separate from the one this video is about.... so yeah um...
wolfkins yaa its a fuckin lie
you're confusing it with Dyatlov pass
Great script and narration. Bizarre story. Excellent job Alexandria!
What a strange, sad case! I'd never heard of this one, thank you for covering it!
Salena Moffat .... that's because it never happened
+STEAKNIFE CYRUS why do you say that? Where can I read about it? Thanks
I was glued to every word, brilliantly written & narrated... Your initial introduction to each individual involved created a real feeling of familiarity & empathy. A respectful piece which pays tribute to a very sad & puzzling tale.
Very well done guys! I have never heard anything about this and its not that far from home. Done with compassion and very thorough. So utterly incomprehensible tho! Terribly sad. 5 families left with almost nothing but pain and confusion. Wow. Thankyou.😯
Laura Metheny there's an article you can look up with similar/ exact wording of this video
What state did this happen in?
Your Friendly Neighborhood Bitch, Karen a state of insanity, if you think about it.
Heard of & read about many, many times. Very interesting but very sad.
So one parent claims that the men had no money, yet the guy found in the trailer had a wallet with cash. Clearly, the parents (or the original reporters) did not have every detail straight. The sighting at the store was likely correct, imo.
Got to look at the context. You can have money, Ang the you can have money.
Ya they were given the money they needed for the night and had snacks all ready think about it if you had the money you need for the game and to get in or whatever they would not have spent it on snacks lol
The parent said he wouldn't have had enough money to buy anything the next day, its why they think that sighting wasn't the boys.
@@tonytemple6798 My guess is they had money for a few snacks, candy bars etc but not enough for alot more.
the 4th guy in the emergency trailer was especially shocking.
An emergency trailer, with books, furniture, a bed, fully functional propane tank heater, water, canned food, matches, and multiple years' worth of instant meals - and this guy happened to find it, 21 miles from the road, in the middle of nowhere...
but absolutely nothing was touched. Didn't use the heater, didn't make a fire, didn't eat one morsel of food, did not even open the cabinet to get to the food, nor read a single book.
So he finds this sanctuary in the middle of nowhere and starved to death after 12 to 20-something weeks inside of it.
Either it took him 12 to 20-something weeks BEFORE he found it, at which point he decided to immediately rest and DIED there....
or (and this would be especially heartbreaking) decided that since the trailer, books, heater, and food did not belong to him, he would've rather starved than to steal anything from the owner.... I say this because the case stated the boys DID belong to a special school. they were below average intelligence, and had "a childish view of following all the rules", coming home before dark, being in bed by a certain time, etc. etc.
You don't actually think this would've been the scenario, would it? That he would've found it "wrong" to steal food and whatnot so he stayed there for 4 months and didn't touch a single thing to stay alive??
JokersSerious they were just retards man and they didn't know it was food and didn't know how to use the heater..
AllCal530 They were slow, yes, but not that retarded to not eat food if it was in front of them. One can was open IIRC, but my guess is that his hands and fingers were so frostbitten that he coudn't feed himself and just waited for the others to go get help. Ended up starving to death. I think either his state was the worst from all of them (was this the one without the jacket?), or he stayed behind in case someone else came to the trailer. All the bodies were found close to the trailer so it looks like they found it together, my guess is they wanted to find help and planned to return for him. The schizophrenic guy changed shoes with him it seems, could of made it farthest before he died, so his remains were not found.
Andrej Púčať. So if they found it together then why didn't the others find the food or use the heater. They were retards man. There was no foul play
AllCal530: Retards? Acronym for: Round Earth Taught Anal Retentive Disorder Syndrome. Or, RETARDS.The earth is flat!
Andrej Púčať That actually makes a lot of sense. If one was in a really bad way they'd tell him to stay inside while they went for help. Do you think it's possible there actually was a girl involved(like the witness said)? Possibly someone they met at the game that got them to go where she wanted and then things went bad somehow. I could see a girl being the only reason the guys would do something abnormal like taking a different road. As far as going into the woods, it just seems like even if their car was actually stuck, they would have stayed in it with the heat on and waited until someone drove by. So to me them leaving their car is the biggest mystery.
never heard of this american case ! crazy as heck. thanks for posting. thumbs up. love the intro as well.
Thank you :)
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This is an excellent piece. Keep up the good work, Alexandria!
weehawk She's brilliant. The narration and script is very professional. Alexandria is fantastic xxx
weehawk what are you saying merc killed them all ? I'm a calling the police . ☎️📡☹️☹️☹️📸.
rudy melgar I scroll down and saw yuba city, would have pass by only for I read what you said so thanks 👍.
Having a morbid fascination with the paranormal, true crime and these kinds of mysteries myself, I have, at least in my opinion, a pretty extensive knowledge of those kinds of stories. It's a very rare occurrence to see one I've never heard before! Congrats, great video, great channel! So glad I subbed😀
Thank you, glad to hear it :)
Tracy Herwig same with me. I thought I had heard every story. This is kind of in the same realm of missing411
Jason Voorhees ooo... Don't think I've heard of that, I shall check it out--thanks! Oh, and I love your movies, lol!😜
Tracy Herwig I am the same exact way. I’ve always been interested in the paranormal & the macabre. I’m always reading articles about different crimes, murders, serial killers, paranormal incidents, etc. I also ,personally think that I have extensive knowledge about similar information. So it’s definitely rare to find a case that I hadn’t heard of before.
. My fiancée thinks I’m a weirdo.
jo CO I don't think you're a weirdo, CLEARLY you just have superior taste in entertainment and education!😀 Don't worry though, my husband gives me "side eye" every time some criminal or paranormal case is on tv and I go, "ooo, this is a good one!" And then proceed to rattle off all the facts in great and hideous detail, lol. 😂
Ok, great piece much appreciated, well thought out and research is evident. Thank you. Here’s my 2 cents. Boys stopped for snack, encountered someone(s) while stopped claiming they were in need of help. Got in the car with them. At this point all this person would need to do is take control of one boy- maybe with a knife- to get psychological control of the rest. Forced them to drive to this remote area to meet with someone else. They leave the boys in the dark, in the cold, in an unfamiliar area. Boys decide to walk to get help only there isn’t any help. Cold takes over and muddles their senses and ability to cope. They start making really bad decisions. The one who finds the cabin is in such bad shape that he isn’t able to think thru starting a fire or using the LP tank. Maybe he thinks that someone must be coming back soon. Assuming that someone lives there. Eventually he succumbs as well. Whatever really happened we will probably never know. I feel so bad for these guys, kids really. May they all Rest In Peace. May their families also find peace.
Ironic how the two "psychics" had views that were basically polar opposites from each other. Shows how much value you can place in that type of nonsense, eh?
And why did they claim, after one witness said she spotted them at a store, that they had no money when Ted's wallet was found with money in it? Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of misleading information floating around this case. Such a sad story, though.
I can't believe the police actually tried to investigate what the "psychics" said 🙄
They’re scam artists IMO.
There is some standardized test to test somebodies psychic abilities. Nobody has ever come close to passing it.
Also they are illegal in Canada.
if You can''t Believe... Who then can Lord
Incredible video with attentive professionalism. Very respectful of the men's memories. Subbed...
Thank you :)
Hehe - fancy seeing you here Ben. Quite a story. It's a new one to me.
Robert Bryant Lock Me too, never heard of it either...
Excellent work, as always. The best coverage of this case that I've seen to date. I really felt like I got to know these young men. Heartbreaking.
Wow, I have never heard of this tragedy. Thank you much! It's so sad... You were very precise in everything. A well made video
Thank you :)
This was done so well. You can tell she really did her research. This is also eerily similar to many of the cases that David Paleides covers.
everything sucks Exactly what I thought!
Messer Did Nothing Wrong i thought exactly the same thing
Its David Paulides.
I don’t know that I would quite consider this to be a Missing 411 case. Yes, a few unexplained events took place, but the majority of the events have a rational explanation. I will admit that I immediately thought of Missing 411 when the missing shoes were mentioned. Would have been nice to know if they were found on one of the other guys.
cindi washington but you suck best 😱😱😱🙎🏼
I was born and raised within a hour from where this happened and I have never heard of this case. Just doesn’t make sense Why stay in the trailer for so many weeks but not even checking the gas. This trailer was either a hunting spot or a illegal growth area, which it was winter so nothing was being grown. But the gas and the food storage means it somewhere people go to. Why stay so long when during the day lite hours they could have walked out rather easy? Loosing a 100 lbs and the facial growth just doesn’t make sense. Even if they didn’t know the area during the day they could have found their way out why stay at a trailer and starve? Years ago people kept their hunting lodges stocked with everything they would need to survive people used the honor system. If someone got like lost and found a cabin or trailer that usually had the means for a fire and food, you didn’t vandalise you treated someone else property with respect and usually replaced what they used. This system helped many that got lost. Why didn’t they search the trailer better? Why didn’t they all stay at the trailer until day light? Just doesn’t make sense unless the one that is missing was the cause of the deaths of the others?
The trailer was 20 miles from their car. They were all suffering severely from hypothermia. Ted Weihler, the guy who was found in the trailer, had the lightest clothing of them all. Two of the men didn't make it more than 8 miles away from the car. By the time any of them made it to the trailer they were all very ill..... And that's not even asking why the hell they drove out there and left their car.
My feeling was that he had been 'held' there against his will.
It's not a hunting lodge or a 'grow' house, it's a park ranger cabin. It's been stated in other videos that the guy found in bed had serious frostbite resulting in gangreen.
Wow ! Excellent presentation , thanks. I've been interested in the weird and creepy since 1969 , never heard of this case before. Thankyou also for being so respectful towards these young men.Very sad and mysterious , so sad for their families.
Merc and Alexandria, this video was very well-made. Good job on this one.
Impressed! Content I`ve never seen, great job!....
Thank you :)
prismstudios001 Really, same here!
I thoroughly enjoyed everything about this video, from Alexandria's tranquil voice, to her incredibly detailed descriptions of the men who went missing. It is very easy to see just how much research she did, and how much time and effort she put into telling this story.
Well done, Alexandria!
I feel so bad for the families, I hope they’ve found peace, but they also deserve closure and answers to this tragic case.
Thank you Alexandria and Merc!
the production quality of this channel just keeps getting better and better! loved the intro, and the cases you choose to explore are always so interesting (and not often heard of).
I've never heard of this case. Great job and love the classy intro with the reel tape. Subscriber for life. Thank you Merc and Alexandria
Thank you Chris :)
This was excellent. Well researched and eloquently presented. I've said this before, and I'll say it again; if you keep up this level of quality, this channel will be huge in a year or two. Several channels already exist with the same themes and style of content. But, they rarely to never have the quality and depth that this channel does. I have yet to be disappointed by a video from Merc.
Well I have yet to finish watching this, and am only at the beginning, I very much wanted to take the time to pause and to Express gratitude and appreciation to the author of this piece, for the incredible lengths they went to articulate the important and significant difference between mental handicap and cognitive deficiency... And mental illness. As well as the remarkable amount of effort they put into illustrating many noteworthy, historically successful figures who suffered with mental illness, particularly schizophrenia, which is not widely known. The amount of effort and compassion displayed here, and the unspoken understanding of the stigma of mental illness and the unfortunate presumption, even still, that mental illnesses somehow equate to mental deficiency, when that isn't true, is a very rare thing indeed. Not many people take the time to illustrate such a point, nor do those who attempt to do so do so as well as seen here. It would be apparent to me, at the risk of being presumptuous, that the author very much understands the ongoing and pervasive stigma that surrounds mental illness to this day, and the importance of dispelling such Common misnomers. Can't emphasize enough how much I appreciate and admire that.
Subs approaching the 40K mark. Yes! Wishing you a Happy New Year, Merc, in advance.
Thank you christopher!! Happy New Year to you too mate, in advance.
Writing and narration on this piece was superb I was captivated from start to finish. Well done!
terrybo8 we have a new one coming out soon! Another big one!
Fantastic! ty Alexa ;)
Aww, I work with guys very like the descriptions here (in a place similar to their Gateway). While watching it I was thinking "What would John, Martin, Mark, Ifor, Bryn, Jack do in these circumstances?" Like the families and friends here, it's incomprehensible that they would deviate from the days plan or thoroughly familiar places. They just wouldn't! (Except for Ifor maybe, but the others wouldn't have followed him anywhere as they regard him as 'sometimes irresponsible' and look after him.) They would be concerned with safety, and not leaving somewhere they regard as safe and warm. I'm sure my guys would be found at the car, waiting for someone to find them. How awful for the families to be left with such a mystery. My friends are all harmless, innocent, 'child men' who aren't daring or brave, but very sweet, funny, caring, gentle and loving, they'd each give their last £1 to someone they thought was in need. Very like these men are described. I can't imagine how sorrowful it would be if they came to such an strange and awful end.
Nice work on the narration, especially for including the descriptions by the families which rounded out the personalities. Instead of just educationally retarded or slow. Well done Alexandria Tucker!
littlewoodimp You are doing an amazing job working with the differently-abled. Thank you for your thoughts and I hope no families will have to go though anything like this again.
Get off your knees alexa
beerthug ok if that’s what you took from it you have issues.
Exactly. They had to have been coerced.
I still want to know about the woman and child. I don't think Schoner would have mistook any of these men for a woman with a child. That's a very distinct observation. I'm still sticking to my hitchhiking mountain witch theory.
@@adlanti-definitionleague8659 Eye witness accounts are notoriously unreliable. Throw in the conditions and his stressful state, and it's very plausible that no woman or child existed.
This is a very, very sad case but really well researched and narrated. Great to see at the end that you provided numbers for anyone with any relevant information. Great vid, thanks.
Wow that's crazy. I've lived in Oroville most of my life, have been to Marysville, yuba City, and Brownsville, and today is the first time I've ever heard about this case. So sad these boys were forgotten by history
So creepy. I feel so bad for the families. Its difficult to imagine what the these men went through. Equally as bizarre is the account that the guy on the road described. Sounds similar to the Missing 411 phenomena. Thank you for bringing attention to this case. Excellent video. I had never heard of this case either.
Thank you :)
I'd never heard of it either and I'm someone with really bad insomnia who has nothing but time to indulge my thirst for all of this kind of stuff. This was quite a treat to not only learn something new but have a 30 min video to boot! 😍
Epic Dyslexic I am an insomniac as well. Actually your cool username sounds familiar. I believe I have read a coment or two of yours before. Neat.
teri lefevers
How cool! I wonder what the statistics are on the people who suffer from insomnia who also are true crime and mystery buffs? Must be a correlation. Yeah, I'm on lots of creepy channels 😊
teri lefevers You got to ask your self, How many of these incidents have taken place that we never heard about, This is extraordinary strange, very parallel to David Pauldies,411 missing cases.More facts,were added which makes it more intriguing.
How sad is that? I once experienced first hand what it's like to loose sense in the extreme cold. You get to a point where you just don't care. If only one of them had known that you always stay with the car.
Several peoples body heat in the car was enough to survive . Eat snow for hydration you can last a month. I think the sasquatchs chased them, scared them kept them running. The one in bed in the trailer cabin, possibly sick or frozen by fear not wanting to make a noise? Fear is debilitating emotion.
Fascinating and so tragic. What an intriguing mystery...
Really well told. Nice delivery, it is clear you are a thoughtful and compassionate person. Keep up the good work.
I love you for this video. I heard about this sad case on another video, but that person summed up the guys as ‘mentally slow’ and that was it. I love how you took the time getting more into them and their personality. It’s such a tragic and confusing case...
Seriously amazing the way you describe ppl makes me feel like I know them and so it makes everything so much more painful scary, awesome job!
Amazing case! And it is very clear that massive amounts of hours went into the research for this. I'm defiantly subscribing!
Thank you for subscribing :)
The majority of this video was taken almost verbatim from a newspaper article. Very little research needed.
E. Garceau really? That would make it less impressive then. Seems like there is a lot of that going on these days.
Sad and tragic yet intriguing. Thanks for the video and the great effort.
Thank you so much for the huge amount of respect you showed for them! I loved how you started the video by humanizing all of them. I also loved how you made sure to destigmatize them, especially the part about schizophrenia.
And this, this is why YOU STAY WITH THE VEHICLE AS IT IS ALWAYS FOUND FIRST BEFORE ANY SURVIVOR OR BODIES RECOVERED.
Very intriguing, but sad mystery indeed. The part about the 2 guys who helped someone to the hospital stood out to me. This tells me they wouldn't leave the fellow who had a heart attack. They would have been more inclined to help. Terribly upsetting story. Thank you for bringing these events to our attention.
This is an interesting case. Poor guys... I've been balls deep in the Dyatlov Pass incident for years. Bob Gymlin has one of the best videos on the Dyatlov Pass if anyone wants to check out a goodie....? -Mark
Couldn't find the video. Can you link it?
Took a wrong turn, started to panic, disagreements, car stalled in the cold, they may of thought they had broken down, a car would then work when the weather becomes warmer. They disagree with what to do next and decide to walk, freezing, confused and in a state of panic they die. The guy in the mobile home is ill and confused. No mystery. A sequence of bad decisions.
@ It was stated that the car was "mildly" stuck, but that with 5 guys they should have been able to get it unstuck. Stalling could have happened trying to get the car going again. I think BambooLounge hit the nail right on the head.
What confuses me is the fact that they didn't stay with the car...they at least had heat for the time being because it still had gas in it.
Also, who put the sheets over the dead guy in the trailer and tucked them in?
Strange.
@ if you spin an auto it can stall. Easily could happen in the snow
I do think aswell they just got into the woods by some "simple" reason and got lost and got into panic. Just imagine being alone in a cold dark forest... i'd shit myself and freeze to panic. Probably only trained military for the purpose would not panic.
beautifully made video. I don't cry often at true crime, but this one got me.
Totally agree. This was the first documentary I did on my own, research and script-wise. I even went to the forest they were lost in and drove around for hours looking for... gosh... I don't know what really... I just wanted to be where they were, to somehow make some sense of it all. The creepy thing was I found an old, dilapidated abandoned trailer but my phone took the pics wrong and my partner couldn't use them, sadly. But yes this has stuck with me a very long time. I just hope they were not scared but I know they were :(
Incredible video with an astounding amount of research for such a little known case. Very professional, great narration, informative, with a perfect dose of respect and empathy.
First video I've seen from you guys, and well worth a sub. Thank you! 😊
sounds almost like a borderline Missing 411 case. Distances away in hard terrain where the bodies were found. Shoes missing.
It reads like something straight out of his books. Too many of the same weird clues to be coincidental.
Tim D stealing 'soles' = souls
could be :)
I don’t think it quite meets the Missing 411 criteria. Although, I too immediately thought 411 when the shoes were mentioned, but then the video said that a different pair of shoes were left in their place. So this doesn’t fit with the missing show phenomenon in Missing 411.
mental disabilities, remote forest area, no traces whatsoever
Thank you for captioning,helps the deaf!
Great video and a fascinating case. There is a minor potential inaccuracy however. In 1978 a Marathon bar was not an energy bar like is shown. It was a newer candy bar made from caramel and chocolate. It was long and interlaced and the name "Marathon" was meant to imply that it took a long time to consume it.
@Christopher Reeves I even went the extra step to see if they still made them and it turns out they are still made by Cadbury under the name "Curly Wurly" bar.
I’ve been thinking the same thing. I may not be able to solve a 40 year-old mystery, but I do know my chocolate bar history.
In the UK marathon bars was the older name of the snickers bar
I subscribed 5 hours ago and haven't stopped watching you videos. Love them. New favourite channel 😃😃😃
mr biscuits awwww thank you from both of us!!
I’m only a minute and a half into it, but I’m subscribing for the care that went into making this. Mad skills :)
This is seriously well written, produced, and researched. Great work guys
Thank you :)
Enjoyed every minute. Thank you both.
Just noodling here: Sounds like they were acting as though they were suspicious of the driver who had the mild heart attack, perhaps having gotten worked up into general fearfulness over something they had seen and interpreted as a threat. I think the car got abandoned because they got out (for some unknown reason), separated from each other, and couldn't find their way back. Maybe a stranger to them, a hitchhiker perhaps, was involved, too. In any event, I think their actions may have been taken in a state of fear about something, or in a panic at their situation. The possibilities are endless.
You have the most in depth story. Great research ! Really helps understand everything & feel like u get a better sense of who these men are/were
Wow what a great informative video. It's hard to believe I havent strolled by this channel
Trevor Olague thank you!! Welcome, please stay for a while!
wow, never heard of this one! interesting
Excellent job, well done to you both. Subscribed after watching this documentary.
Mr. Shone had something to do with this case. He said he went out to check the snow levels for an anticipated trip the next weekend? Gimme a break. That stinks on ice. I believe he was cruising around and ran across these young men and had them follow him thus luring them to their death. There is one thing and one thing only that those young men would have went that far out of the way and taken that much risk for. I believe Mr. Shone used the promise of that one thing to lure these guys. When they got to where the car was found Mr Shone produced a hand gun and when the guys didn't go along with his program, probably discharged it. This is why the guys were scared to come back to the car. All that excitement caused Mr. Shone's heart attack and all those others he claims to have seen while stuck in his car were a hot dish of red herring to remove suspicion. The cops wouldn't have grilled him because of the heart attack. Of course this is all speculation but remember, all this happened during a snow storm. Him and those young men were the only ones out there. And the propane tank? More than once,I have had the regulator to freeze making the fuel useless.
A heartbreaking story, presented with tact and care. Well done, and hopefully someday the surviving family members will have some closure of any new leads are found.
Think i just found my new favourite channel, great documentary, can't wait to check all the others out.
This has got to be one of the strangest cases I've ever heard in America.
Silverback Wolf thank you so much! I agree! When I first read about it I was so freaked out by the illogic of it all.
Something scared the one so bad he never left that trailer. Someone tucked him in though and took his shoes though.
Yeah most likely Gary who needed warm shoes and was having or in the middle oh an episode spurred on by his Schizophrenic illness.
Great job the details are better than most of these videos I see.
Thank you :)
Very well made video. I have a fascination for the unknown and unexplained, and it's rare to find a case/story that I've not yet heard about. This was a story I was unfamiliar with, good job!
Thank you for taking the time to show that these were highly functioning, law abiding, compassionate men who were very loved and contributed to their community just as much as anyone else, in fact probably more so than a lot of people. This is such a sad and mind-boggling case, I hope their families get some answers one day.
Just discovered this channel. Amazing job. Gonna subscribe for sure.
Christian Dawson Thank you for subscribing :)
Great work with your extensive research on this, Alexandria.
You also have a beautiful speaking voice.
Alexandria has the best narrator voice I’ve heard in awhile. That is saying something coming from me because I have misophonia, and end up not watching all of a video because I can’t tolerate the mouth noises.
I agree, but for a different reason. I've don't understand why women are suddenly speaking in a way that makes them sound like dolts. Every statement has the inflection going up at the end, which makes it sound like the person is asking a question or is unsure of themselves. It's really noticeable if one compares the speaking styles of women today compared to somebody like Lauren Bacall. Let's imagine Dan Rather reading the national news and speaking in that way. He'd be perceived as simple and fired. And while we're at it, stop with the shrillness and hand gestures. Tone it down. So yes...thanks very much for the professional presentation of this video. It was enjoyed.
Sid Finster it’s called high rising terminal and has become more common in recent years. It’s also known as the “Valley Girl” accent, due to LA Valley teenage girls speaking in the same manner. I dislike high rising terminal and I also dislike vocal fry. Both are completely and utterly irritating.
Very ArticulAtely voiced. Very pleasing to the ear and highly Professional. Thank you. The information was interesting and concise : yet compassionately told. Very well done.
As a mother of an autistic child, this is the most heartbreaking story I have ever come across on the Internet.
Wonderfully done! Your site just keeps on growing and improving, I am loving watching your professional growth. Thank you and I shared on facebook, and twitter.
Earthworshipper Thank you, its always good to see your comment :)
I really enjoyed this video....she did a great job!
One thing is for sure..the group made a series of poor decisions. They may have been chased or scared, and simply panicked.
Such a mysterious case and one that I've never heard of! Excellent research, narration, and editing. Subscribed for sure.
Thoroughly enjoyed the video. Keep up the great work.
Great video! I do think they make too much of the car being in working order considering the weather conditions. Older cars without modern fuel injection stall out in cold weather, plain old moisture can accumulate in the distributor cap causing the car to stop running until it dries out unless u take a paper towel to it. I've actually had that happen with a newer car.. It literally died at a stop sign, i was stranded over an hour in the forest with no cell reception until an older mechanic stopped and showed me the condensation, wiped it out, and started the car right up. I'd driven for years in plenty of rain/snow without knowing this can happen. I was in higher elevation on Old Stage Road between Colorado springs and Cripple Creek maybe the attitude is a factor..? Cold, high, wet terrain will cause random failure in cars, so they may have believed they were stranded, then deprivation set in to explain the rest. Honestly diatlov is way more bizarre and sinister in my opinion..
The car was said to have been stuck. They didn't understand they could have used their strength to get out of this life threatening situation. But why would the guy not find the food rations in the unlocked cabinet? The propane tank that set unused.
Bumpride
Some were mentally slow, so he probably reasoned out to eat what he thought he could pay for at the time.
What about what that guy saw with the pickup truck and the women with the baby? Or the fact that Ted walked 20 miles through a snow storm?
Some believe the man, who was experiencing a heart attack at the time, may have been delirious in pain or experiencing outer body experience
Binge-watching all your vids.
Small correction: at 8:33, the picture is not of Meera Popkin but 70s bollywood actress Parveen Babi.
This is the first time I've heard this case. It is very perplexing.
I grew up in that area, and this is the first time I have heard of this !!! Thank you sooooomuch, I really enjoyed this video.
Very well put together video! Thanks
Aww thank you!! This was my first "baby doc" but not my last! This was made years ago with my low quality mic and less high tech editing, we have grown so much as a channel and I'm so lucky we get to spotlight these terrible crimes and situations. Check out my latest "baby doc" "The Doodler! (SF's other serial killer still at large...)
Great reporting! This reminds me of Missing 411. Feel bad for those boys and families.
another thought is that maybe the boys got into an altercation with each other and one of them got mad and flashed-out and threw the keys stupidly without thinking the keys were lost in the snow.
That's what I think happened. The schizo guy was ever found. He could've run off after an argument and either stolen the keys or thrown them into the woods.
The car keys was found in Madruga's pocket.
can you imagine the look on their faces as they were being chased ?? ...god ...absolute horror .
"Handsomely pudgy", eh? 🤔
Damn, this was an insane case. What about that guy who had the heart attack, too?? Just weird. All of it.
Reverend Jim ( gary) definitely had an episode. Sad
Chubby cute... Like yourself 😋
@@timsydlowski5208 possibly I guess, but where is he now?, its not like he'd abandoned his parents
I've seen handsomely pudgy.
Great video, very well written. This mystery is so strange and extremely heart breaking, I can't imagine how terrified they where. :(
Wow this was extremely well done. The writing was fantastic.
ecilana1234 thank you from both of us!!