ROR Rule 8 by Capt Anil Bhatia
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Thankyou sir , May Waheguru bless u with good health and wealth.
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Very well explained Capt. Bhatia, word by word!
8F was a pain before this
I am so clear about rule 8 sir ,it is because of you ,thanks a lot captain
Thank you so much Capt. Bhatia! I got full understanding of rule 8f
Very well explained sir, each and every situation is explained in a proper and standard manner, more easier to understand instead of only reading and mugging up the rules.
Thanks a lot sir, you are making ROR easier to understand. ⚓️🤗
thankyou shoo much sir ... frst tym commenting on utube ..I finally understood 8f
Many thnks sir,
I am preparing for my 2m ror and luckily got to see your wonderful channel
Providing utmost help to us
Sir, kindly share your good time on live if possible so that we can deal with or random ror queries
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Anand
When r orals starting
@@thecaptainschannel7206 glad 😊 to get reply from ur end respected sir..
Oral will be in mid September .
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Very much helpfull Sir , Thanks to you 🙏
well explained sir ...i misunderstood ur rule earlier...very well understood
Well explained sir , thank you very much ❤.
I also have a question sir,
1. Does rule 18 apply on rule 9 and 10?
2. In a narrow channel for example, a fishing vessel crossing which is required not impede the passage of a pdv passing through a narrow channel has not followed her obligation as per rule f (1) and then ROC exists as per Rule f(2) follow the sailing and steering rules, so does this mean that the PDV will be the give way vessel as per Rule 18? is it also correct to say sir that this is not a crossing situation since rule 15 only apply to 2 pdv? please clarify sir and thank you very much!
Yes. If fishing vessel does not abide by 8fi, later rule 18 applies. Rule 15 is only between 2 pdvs.
Thanks sir. Please can you explain the word prudent Seamanship ?
Sir in rule (8 f iii) it does not mention safe passage. So as per that for a CBD vessel on our port side crossing and risk of collision exists, then even in that case we'd be responsible to take action as a PD vessel. And only when a close quarters situation develops the CBD vessel will take action. Please correct me if i am wrong.
Also to add, in rule 8 f1 and f2 it specifically mentions passage and safe passage and only in f3 it mentions only safe passage.
Yes ur understanding is correct
Thanks alot sir your videos are really helpful. Sir I have a question. Can we alter to port for CBD crossing from Port side if risk of collision exists?
Listen to my video carefully. Answered there
Thanks a lot sir🤩🤩
Thank you sir
Thanks , very informative Sir!
Whn roc exit N ov cbd navigating in narrow channel.. On her stbd vsl crossing... Do u give 5 or more short blast before taking action
Cbd is give way n stbd side vessel is stand on. This stand side vessel may sound 5 shirt and rapid blasts before taking action not cbd.
Thanks sir
Wow what an explaination 🙏 thank u sir
Thank you sir...
very good!
Thanku so much sir
Sir same situation ager tss me hoti.. i am cbd vessel and i am crossing right angle. And i have one vessel on stb bow which is in tss.which one stand on and give way?
10.c k according we are give way
Rule 18 will apply in case of nuc and cbd in tSS
Already replied. Please check it out
Hiii bhatia sir...could you please describe secondary port calculations...
Tnkssss...
Pls tell difference between passage and safe passage of vsl which is mentioned in rule 9f part
check rule 9
hello sir, very well explained. when and how we consider close quarter situation is developing. what is close quarter situation? how i can say that it is close quarter situation.
When you think the ship is not passing at safe distance it is a close quarter situation
@@thecaptainschannel7206 thank you sir
Sir, Can you explain the difference between safe passage and passage as mentioned in rule 8f
Already explained
Sir can you please explain when is a vessel considered to be finally past and clear....
there is no specific mention in the rules, some time back there was a court judgement which had mentioned it as 5 Nm. i.e. if the overtaking vessel has gone ahead by 5 Nm., and crosses the bow such that roc develops, it shall be considered as fresh situation. I will try and find out this case.
Sir a few other places that i have referred for the understanding of this word have defined it as a distance at which any action taken from own or other vessels wouldn't develop a risk of collision between the vessels..... I would like to have your opinion on this defination
I will not comment on what others say.
what is difference between passage nd safe passage ? or may i knw in which rule/video u have explained this i will directly watch tht video.
thnks
you will have to check my past videos.
Hi sir....thnku very much i cleared my chiefmate fun 1 oral...ur videos are so helpfull....
Sir great
Sir please clear my doubt iam so much confused .
PD Vessel outbound on a normal passage in TSS sailing vessel crossing stbd to port
Who's stand on and who's give way...
So can we say..
There is no standon or giveaway before roc, if she is impeding the safe passage and roc exist its just 18a applicable.
Pd is giveaway and sailing vsl is standon once roc exist.
Impeding passage 18fi.
ROC 18fii and fiii
Sir if a PD vsl is following a traffic lane and CBD is crossing from port side then whose duty to keep clear.
1. CBD should not impedr the passage of PDV in traffic lane.
2. CBD shall keep clear as give way vessel and
3. PDV has obligation as stand on vessel.
Ok Sir but what about rule 18 d(I)
Please read rules n watch videos carefully. Rule 18 starts with , Except where rules 9, 10 and 13 otherwise require
Sir what is the difference between good time & ample time? Which one is greater?
In what context
@@thecaptainschannel7206 In the 8(a) it said about take action in ample time but in 8(c) that is in good time. I want to know the difference between them sir.
In this case both are almost the same. Explicitively ample is more than good
Ok sir. Now i'm clear.Thanks a lot for your kind reply sir.
Sir what is passage nd safe passage...sir i know you told you already discussed this but i had gone through all your rules available on UA-cam....i didn't get it either tell us sir, where have you discussed or plss explain sir ..will be much of tge help🙏🏻🙏🏻
Check rule 9
Sir what is the difference between Shall, may, should ?
Shall is a strong assertion and in first person.
should is used to indicate an obligation or duty.
may is used to get permission or indicate not mandatory but probably.
For our IRPCS, shall and should are similar, but shall is stronger than should. may can be interpreted as may or may not.
Thnku very much sir....
Cpt,
Considering a crossing situation in narrow channel. As per rule 8 f(i) a sailing vessel will not impede my passage ( me being a PDV navigating in narrow channel ) and SV will allow sufficient sea room.
In f(ii) we determined that ROC exists and now SV complies with rule of these parts and she becomes the stand on vessel.
In f(iii) Pdv determines too that ROC is existing so she takes action as per these rules too.
So that means that PDV in narrow channel will keep clear of SV and will take action ?!
Or
when PDV determined that ROC exists and finds that SV is not taking action , will I sound 5 short and rapid blast ?!
Because I’m confuse that why will i sound 5 short and rapid blast if I have to keep clear of SV once I have determined that ROC exists as per 8 f(iii) , won’t I be taking action directly?!
Please help!!!
To confirm whether SV has acted as per 8 f i , 5 short and rapid blasts. There is a probability that SV may take action same time as PDV and that action may nullify action of PDV. Remember HE of pdv is much more than sv
Hello sir can you give me one more example of good seamanship. Please👍🏻
bit of an extreme example.
Sir what is the difference between passage and safe passage and difference between close quarter and risk of collision.
Sir. Your videos are really a great help
Already discussed in my other videos
I think i finally understood rule 8 f 😄
Good. My purpose is achieved.
The Captain's Channel sir thank-you for these simple explanations!
sir how will you determine SAFE DISTANCE?
This question is already answered. Please check out on this channel.
Sir what is close quarter situation..
Already explained earlier. Please check it.
Sorry to disturb u sir
Plzz help me sir i have my exaam on Monday i have some doubt Sir
Sir suppose i m in narrow channel and i m a pvd vsl and i have one pvd vsl on my stbd side and roc exist then does rule 15 is applicable in this rule
And sir same situation again in narrow channel but now i m pvd vsl vsl and i have cbd vsl on my port side crossing so sir in this situation who is give way
Please listen to videos carefully. All answered with explanation
Yes rule 15 applies in 2nd situation you r still stand on vessel but according to rule 18 it is your responsibility to avoid impeding the safe passage of a vessel CBD before roc exists after there is risk of collision CBD is obligated to keep out of the way and shall take early and substantial action to keep well clear else you follow rule 17 a ii
Sir, If i wait to determine ROC, then does it imply that i’ve not taken action as per 8f(i) ?
In that case I think you r also not complying with rule 7 which says you should obtain early warning of risk of collision.
found your notes very helpful. Thanks Daman
Explain manueverability
Maneuverability is the capability of being steered or directed.
@@asimsparks thanks